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SDCC 2011: DC Superman and Justice League LiveBlog [Updated]

DC reveals the flight plan for the new adventures of the Man of Steel. And the greatest team of super-heroes.

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New images added courtesy of DC.

Hey kids, I had to wrestle with the WI-FI, but I've got a log of the first panel on about the Man of Steel with Grant Morrison, J. Michael Straczynski, Scott Lobdell, Matt Idelson, and John Cunningham.

3:30 - Grant Morrison says the cape Superman wears is like Linus' blanket; his only childhood keepsake from Krypton. Q: Will there be room for whimsy like Krypto and Kandor in Superman's mythos? A: Morrison says his new run will be extending his ideas and themes from ALL-STAR SUPERMAN. Idelson and JMS both add that they think it's important to have some levity in Superman. Lobdell says that the villain for the first year of TEEN TITANS will be Superboy. JMS answered a question about his recent work by saying he left SUPERMAN and WONDER WOMAN because EARTH ONE took off bigger than anybody at DC thought, and he ad to put his focus on the graphic novels over the monthlies for the time being.

3:39 - Morrison responds to concerns about retelling Superman's origin again by saying that these characters' stories are always in flux and going through interpretation. If you're exhausted by Supes' origin being retold so soon after his origin, then maybe you've been reading superhero comics too long. Still, the plan is for this reboot to be for keeps, not something that'll be undone in six months. Q: Will Luthor be a mad scientist or an evil businessman?A: Morrison says he'll be an up-and-coming schemer. Funny joke asked by fan -- if Supes is going to be the Bruce Springsteen of the DCU, does that mean Capt Marvel will be its Rick Springfield? Everybody's laughing too hard to even answer.

3:44 - Q: How far was this relaunch planned in advance? A: Discussions went on during the latter half of 2010 and creators worked ahead of time in March to avoid lateness problems. Q: Will we see Superman Prime in any of this? A: Lobdell says no plans for the first year yet. Wants to avoid duplication of superheroes instead of just having them show up. Idelson adds that they don't want to have a lot of versions of Superman in the books.

3:48 - Q: Will Steel be getting his own series? A: Eventually perhaps, but he'll still be playing a big role in the first year of story lines. Q: Will Superman be allowed to cut loose more often, power wise? A: He'll be kicking a lot of ass. Q: What part will Jimmy Olsen play in all of this? A: He's Superman's best friend. All the plots about him will be starting with their relationship.

3:53 - Q: How long will Morrison be on Superman? A: He's got 16 issues plotted so far and he'll be taking it from there. FLASHPOINT is tied to the reboot. There's a reason FLASHPOINT # 5 is coming out the same day as JUSTICE LEAGUE #1. Q: Will there be any Batman/Superman team-ups? A: Not immediately. They want to put some focus on the heroes individually first. There will be unexpected team-ups, though. Q: If this is the reboot, will Luthor have hair? A: Morrison say no - - he's not a fan of hair, himself.

3:57 - Lobdell says that Superboy and Wondergirl might end up together, but he'd like to spend some time on-page to explain their relationship.Q: Will the reboot be meant for all-ages? A: Yes. EARTH ONE is meant for mature readers, though. Superman will be less introspective and whiny in Morrison's books.

4:06 - And now we're waiting for the JUSTICE LEAGUE panel.

4:19 - The show's starting. Bob Wayne, DC's VP of Sales offers Wayne Casino poker chips for the best questions and best costumes. He's invited up Eddie Berganza, who's now inviting Dan Jurgens, JT Krul, Phillip Tan, Francis Manupal, Brian Buccellato, Eric Wallace and then... big surprise reveal... Geoff Johns and Jim Lee.

4: 23 - Showing slides of JUSTICE LEAGUE. Johns and Lee have been talking about working together for a long time. Lee's glad to be working on a team book after such a long time of doing solo titles. Geoff handles the team dynamic well. The humanity. The humor. Jurgens says that JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL will be a UN sponsored team that's founded in direct response to the JLA. Roster will change, with plenty of coming and going, as some members think they deserve to be on the JLA instead.

4: 27 - Revealed a slide of Sinestro on the cover of GL. Johns said he wanted to mix it up instead of the same-old, same-old. Nobody in the story wants Sinestro to be a GL - - even himself - - and his first rule of business will be to take down the Sinestro Corps. Now talking about AQUAMAN. Perennial "Aquaman sucks" comment will be brought up in the plot and quashed permanently, even as there will still be some humor. Giving up FLASH was very hard, since it's his favorite character, but he knew it'd be in good hands with Manupal.

4:30 - Manupal has been asking to write and draw FLASH for years. He and Buccellato know it's a hard act to follow. Johns loves that Manupal is doing creative "choose your own adventure" layout to represent Barry's sped-up thinking. New way for Barry to put the costume on, now, too. The costume will shoot out from the ring, in pieces, and he'll run into them while the lightning fuses the seems together.

4:34 - Krul talking about CAPTAIN ATOM, now. It'll be a different book for him, about Atom's isolation and the philosophical challenges of his powers. Freddie Williams will be using ink washes on Atom, but regular coloring on the rest of the book. On to GREEN ARROW. Krul loves how Ollie keeps trying even though he's a flawed character. He wants to give the book a James Bond feel and amp the excitement by pumping up the trick arrows. Dan says Ollie will be younger in the reboot, and the Queen Industries will be giving him a more advanced arsenal.

4: 36 - Wallace talking about MR. TERRIFIC, now. Hard to write the third smartest man in the world, because he says that his own IQ isn't anywhere close to that. Will have James Bond influence, too, and a mystery feel, but with some adventures in outer space. Will be spending the first year giving Terrific his own rogues gallery.

4:38 - Tan talking HAWKMAN, now. Compares him to Indiana Jones. Will live up to the "savage" descriptor. Now opening for questions... MAD RUSH of fans to the microphone.

4:41 - Q: Why have Batman in JLA and JLI? A: Bats is only the JLI for diplomatic reasons. Q: Why have all life start on Earth in BRIGHTEST DAY? Doesn't it contradict histories of Krypton and NEW GODS. A: Johns tries to answer... then admits he made a mistake with a smile. Q: Any problems to happen between JLI and JLA? A: They won't be working together. Q: Why have Cyborg on the JLA? He's like the odd man out. A: Want to mix-up the line-up a little. Avoid "same old, same old." And Cyborg's a modern superhero. He's online all the time.

4:47 - Q: Will Martian Manhunter have a big role in the DCU, even if he isn't a founding Leaguer? A: Wait and see. He isn't on the team because Johns didn't want to have two aliens on the team at once. But J'onn will be in STORMWATCH. Q: Why have the uniform collars in JLA? A: Lee says he wanted some similarities to stress the team work. Also, the high collars look more regal. Coincidentally, artists separately came up with collars for different characters.

4:51 - Q: Why not have Nightwing on JLA if he's more of a team player? A: It's more fun to have bad team players. Q: Will there be better representation for Asians? A: Wallace answers. Says that as a minority creator himself, this is on his mind. And he's been allowed to make the supporting cast diverse in MR. TERRIFIC. Jurgens chimes in that JLI will have Asian heroes too. Q: Condensing so many years of continuity into a five year timeline - - what effect will that concentrated chaos have on the heroes. A: Johns says it'll be addressed. Johns jokes that they'll all have graying hair and receding hairlines from their job stress?

4:56 - Q & A about where the superheroines are on all these covers, and are they represented in these books leads to some rowdy discussion in the audience. Incurs assurances that women will play a part; that DC has the greatest amount of iconic heroines. Questions about Power Girl and Karen Star lead to some tight lips about spoilers for MR. TERRIFIC. Q: Will DC ONLINE reflect changes from this reboot? A: It's a separate universe, but it may eventually get some new add-ons from these new books. Q: Will Maul show up in the new 52? A: Perhaps.

5:05 - Q: Will other heroes be as cunning as Batman, instead of just losing their wits while he saves the day? A: GL is going to bring this up in JUSTICE LEAGUE #1. Johns keeps his lips tights about there being other human lanterns aside from Hal. He does say that Sinestro will choose what sector he wants and he'll find one ally who will shed light on why the ring chose him again.

5:09 - Q: Any chance the SECRET SIX return? A: Maybe. Q: Could there be a seasonal cycle of reboots to keep the continuity fresh every few years? A: Johns jokes that he can't handle writing that many GL #1's. They got the same question at a previous 52 panel, and Lee thinks a seasonal cycle would make it less special. They've also been letting creators be free of six issue arc requirements. Q: Will Hawkgirl be in HAWMAN? A: Wait and see. Q: Will there be a new Legion of Doom to counter the JLA? A: There will be, next year, but it won't be called the Legion of Doom. Everybody's teasing about they're being 100 new villains.

5:12 - Q: How have the creators felt about the response to the reboot? A: It's caused them anxiety, but they're trying to strike a balance between stripping the characters down and respecting tradition.

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Posted by azza04

I like the part about Superman kicking some serious ass.

Posted by TheLastLantern

Johns is full of crap.  It's pretty obvious Sinestro has been his man crush since The Sinestro Corps War. Also, Superboy bein the villain for Teen Titans? Definatly getting it now.
Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

Was wondering how they were gonna try and work in Prime,a nd it looks like there's no plans to put him in anything yet. Interesting. I do like how Supes is gonna be a maker @$$kicker though and the revelation that Bats is on both JLA and JLI to an extent.  Nice work so far!

Posted by B_Heart

Looking forward to the new JL

Edited by TheOptimist

I don't think Geoff was denying that he has wanted Sinestro to join back up. He was referring to how Sinestro  didn't want to be in the book... 
 
It certainly seems like JL and JLI are meant to counterpoint each other... certainly brings up the possibility of a crossover war between the pair, which would play out interestingly. The position on aliens is also something to keep a careful eye on I'm thinking.

Posted by ThanosIsMad

Someone needs to ask about Ravager, dammit.  She's the only favorite of mine that hasn't been addressed at ComicCon yet or beforehand.

Posted by Bestostero

Here here for more Asians. I hope to see Ryan Choi again, as being one of the most notable Asian males.

Posted by kennybaese

Hm, I wonder if Batman being on JLA and JLI is the source of the conflict between him and Supes on the cover of JLA #2.

Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

I cannot wait. This all seems so interesting!

Posted by Skaddix

Hmm the UN hates Aliens and Secret IDs.  Honestly makes sense if your a government.
 I hope for more Bruce Wayne v. Amanda Waller. 
 
Supes books all look pretty good may add Superman to go with my other 3 Super Books. Glad to hear about Steel. 

Posted by SmoothJammin
@TheLastLantern said:

                Johns is full of crap.  It's pretty obvious Sinestro has been his man crush since The Sinestro Corps War. Also, Superboy bein the villain for Teen Titans? Definatly getting it now.
           

I didn't understand his statement though. Was he saying that a villain from the original teen titans will be the new superboy or that Superboy himself(current)will play the villain in TT?
Posted by Orttodrog
@TheLastLantern said:
Johns is full of crap. 
Edited by FoxxFireArt

Did Morrison really say that if you are troubled by the retelling of Superman's origin again that you have been reading comics for too long? If so, isn't that kind of a way of telling someone to stop reading? That sounds really irresponsible,

"If you're exhausted by Supes' origin being retold so soon after his origin, then maybe you've been reading superhero comics too long."

Isn't one of their biggest troubles that people are either stop reading or not buying. I wouldn't think that reading for "too long" would even be possible for the hopes of DC. Are they so desperate for new readers that DC is willing to tell older readers to leave if bothered by these events?
 
In that first preview DC released, they didn't show Superman being a hero. They showed Clark acting like an emo-loner/loser. and that Lois is now shacked up with some douche bag.
Posted by Skaddix
@SmoothJammin said:
@TheLastLantern said:

                Johns is full of crap.  It's pretty obvious Sinestro has been his man crush since The Sinestro Corps War. Also, Superboy bein the villain for Teen Titans? Definatly getting it now.
           
I didn't understand his statement though. Was he saying that a villain from the original teen titans will be the new superboy or that Superboy himself(current)will play the villain in TT?
Basically SB solo happened but he never joined YJ or TT. Instead he was kidnapped by Project N.O.W.H.E.R.E who experimented and are using him as a weapon. They are also acquiring other teens with powers for such purposes.
Posted by pikahyper
@FoxxFireArt said:
Did Morrison really say that if you are troubled by the retelling of Superman's origin again that you have been reading comics for too long? If so, isn't that kind of a way of telling someone to stop reading? That sounds really irresponsible,

"If you're exhausted by Supes' origin being retold so soon after his origin, then maybe you've been reading superhero comics too long."

Isn't one of their biggest troubles that people are either stop reading or not buying. I wouldn't think that reading for "too long" would even be possible for the hopes of DC. Are they so desperate for new readers that DC is willing to tell older readers to leave if bothered by these events?
 
In that preview DC released, they didn't show Superman being a hero. They shows Clark acting like an emo-loner/loser. and that Lois is now shacked up with some douche bag.
got about the same from reading that quote, kind of a dick thing to say and fairly shocking, bet he got a chewing out afterwards for saying it cause it really can be taken in a few ways and most are not good.
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Posted by hitechlolife

Seems kinda strange that you'd go with the name 'Justice League International' if you're at odds with the 'justice league'. Unless it's meant to be snarky. I'm not sure if the UN is known for snark though.
 
Also, why'd they drag JMS into the panel for? We learned nothing new about Earth 1.

Posted by Skaddix

Who knows if Waller is running the show I can see here doing that.

Posted by Outside_85

Did I misread that; Mr. Terrific being the 3rd strongest man in the world? (where did that come from?) 
 
Holy cow...Johns realized the Blackest Night climax didn't make any sense. (will probably be geoffconned so it fits) 
 
Sigh...why did NTT have to get the bench for the Wildstorm herd...? 

Posted by The Impersonator

I think Mr. Terrific should be meant saying the third smartest man.

Edited by nickp

good panel for Justice League

Posted by Primmaster64
@azza04 said:

I like the part about Superman kicking some serious ass.

Posted by Omertalvendetta
@pikahyper@FoxxFireArt: The way DC sucks Morrison's utensils at this point, I doubt that they said anything to the man... I'd almost bet a whole lot of money that him wanting to be in Action Comics is one of the main reasons they've done with the new #52's. 
Posted by pikahyper
@omertalvendetta said:
@pikahyper@FoxxFireArt: The way DC sucks Morrison's utensils at this point, I doubt that they said anything to the man... I'd almost bet a whole lot of money that him wanting to be in Action Comics is one of the main reasons they've done with the new #52's. 
true, I haven't been a fan of his since 2005, I really don't get the love he gets, I thought All Star Superman was dull.
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Posted by Pokeysteve

FLASHPOINT is tied to the reboot. There's a reason FLASHPOINT # 5 is coming out the same day as JUSTICE LEAGUE #1  

 
So am I going to have to read Flashpoint to know what the hell is going on with the new titles? Supergirl looks awful by the way. Hope she keeps up with her bikini waxes. And people are whiny about Wonder Woman's shorts haha. 
Posted by quiksilver70777
@pikahyper
I agree, he is one of the worst writers ever. The man is a lonney tune, he believes he was visited by aliens. His work on Batman is worst than the All Star Superman comics.
Posted by pikahyper
@quiksilver70777 said:
@pikahyper:  I agree, he is one of the worst writers ever. The man is a lonney tune, he believes he was visited by aliens. His work on Batman is worst than the All Star Superman comics.
Ya wasn't a big fan of his Batman work, haven't read all of it but close to.
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Posted by mbembet

superman is single and gay in the DCnU

Posted by ntb1124

I was kind of a fan of him but that quote....
"If you're exhausted by Supes' origin being retold so soon after his origin, then maybe you've been reading superhero comics too long." 
 
sounds like him getting ready to slap me in the face by truly ruining Superman..I would think the loyalty of long time readers would be the one thing they would strive to keep....oh well at least DC reboots REALLY OFTEN!

Posted by StriderNo9

Very cool. I'm excited.

Posted by Z3RO180

by the look of it super boy will still be a clone and not a robot

Posted by labarith

" Q: Will Luthor be a mad scientist or an evil businessman?A: Morrison says he'll be an up-and-coming schemer." 
 
And yet Superboy is still his and superman's son? 
 
I smell "bullsh*t"

Posted by turoksonofstone

3:39 - Morrison responds to concerns about retelling Superman's origin again by saying that these characters' stories are always in flux and going through interpretation. If you're exhausted by Supes' origin being retold so soon after his origin, then maybe you've been reading superhero comics too long. 
Hey Grant, 
you seem to be getting it twisted. maybe DC has been making Comics too long...Time for a new fresh publisher, we fans may have to "revamp" your plans ourselves with our wallets, as seen this summer with the Green Lantern film...THE FANS HAVE THE FINAL SAY. 
enjoy working on the new Superman, I hope you realize DC is setting you up as a scapegoat.

Posted by maxicere

I don't like anything of this. This changes sucks. I'm really angry with DC

Posted by Weapon-Alpha

The more i find out about all these things the more i get disappointed in DC. kinda funny that DC built up Johns so much and made him their poster boy and promoted him so much and he has had great ideas over the years but now he feels like that guy that you let move into your house and after a while he starts making changes to your house without letting you know like getting new furniture or that you guys are getting all new stuff while paying for it with your money. And to turn GL into a comic thats mostly going to be about someone whos been Hals biggest enemy ever? that kinda odd. and Morrison to say that maybe people have been reading too long while he works for a company that depends on people coming back every month to keep reading the books they put out is kinda dumb.

Edited by azza04

Was a bit annoying Morrison saying that we have been reading comics to long if we are sick of Supermans origin being retold. We had secret origin in 2009-2010, we had Birthright in 2006-2007, Earth-One in 2011, 10 years of Smallville crap on tv, it was retold in 2006 in action comics I believe. We are now getting a new origin in the DC relaunch and will be seeing it again in the Man Of Steel film in 2013. I think they need to make there mind up and stick to it.

Posted by fodigg

Supergirl art looks kickin.

Posted by neillius
@azza04 said:

Was a bit annoying Morrison saying that we have been reading comics to long if we are sick of Supermans origin being retold. We had secret origin in 2009-2010, we had Birthright in 2011, 10 years of Smallville crap on tv, it was retold in 2006 in action comics I believe. We are now getting a new origin in the DC relaunch and will be seeing it again in the Man Of Steel film in 2013. I think they need to make there mind up and stick to it.


I completely agree. It is quite frustrating.
Posted by THEBlaqueBasterd

Is anyone else REALLY Confused?

Posted by cdeoleo

I like the new super man costume ALOT

Posted by VanTesla

What's with Supergirl's costume.... Makes the skirt version look better and tamer.
Posted by UltraHeroix

Looks like DC is trying too hard to be cool with new looks and direction. It's like the 90's making a comeback.

Posted by The Poet

cool

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Posted by B'Town

MORE SECRET SIX!!!!!! maybe....

That's all I took out of that. =}

Posted by davidgrantlloyd

Yes, sir. I like it!!!

Posted by TheMess1428

I don't like Supergirl's new costume.