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ORIGINAL SIN #7: What Made Thor Unworthy?

We know something makes him unworthy of Mjolnir.

If you haven't read this week's ORIGINAL SIN #7, there will be some tiny spoilers. It shouldn't be too much of a spoiler because when Marvel announced a female Thor was coming, back in July, it was also mentioned something happens to make Thor unworthy of Mjolnir.

The question is, what makes him unworthy?

In ORIGINAL SIN #7, the Avengers are fighting the true Nick Fury. They're not fully sure why he's now old or what his involvement in the death of the Watcher is but they're in full force to stop whatever he's doing. As Thor approaches Fury to take him out, Nick whispers something to Thor.

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You can barely see what Nick said. Looks like Thor was even caught off guard.

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What did he say, indeed? That's the big question. We've been wondering what Thor will do to become unworthy. It looks like maybe he already has done something. Is this something he just wasn't aware of? It's a little odd that if he committed some unworthy act, he shouldn't be able to wield Mjolnir. More likely he's done something that's caused a chain reaction and the final result was something really bad. Hearing about it is what made the Mjolnir unworthy clause kick in.

Still, if he did something, knowingly or unknowingly, you would think that'd become a factor, immediately. The result of this whisper was Thor being unable to lift the hammer.

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With all of this, we still don't know what was said. I actually read this issue on my iPad after getting it through the Marvel app. So of course I tried zooming in as much as I could.

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It almost looks like you can make out what was being said. Did they actually letter the big secret and then fuzz it out a little? Or is this just some gibberish to fool those of us that try to zoom in like this?

Let's hear from all of you. What do you think Thor did that made him unworthy? What did Fury whisper? I'm sure it wasn't that he left the water running during a drought on Asgard. What could Thor have done, without realizing it, that made him unworthy? Did he have to be aware of the act or was he aware and just kept it as his dark little secret?

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Hail hydra anyone?

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How are they going to rectify Thor protecting Old Man Steve in Cap #23?? Clearly this event takes place before Steve was de-aged. Sloppy editorial work IMHO, but a solid issue within a solid event.

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how did thor and fury hear each other in space? ...i thought sound didnt travel in space? did thor have a communication device on? ,,,were they on the blue area of the moon or at least directly above it and were able to hear each other?

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Fury whispered odins fail safe enchantment to take the hammer away from Thor

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Maybe thor and angela bang, but thor was unaware of her being his sister and then fury told him.... mentally that might make thor find himself unworthy

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LMAO,this is hilarious.

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He whispered I know what you did at woodstock.

I have pictures and your bong.

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He whispered

"Thor is Aldrich Killian" the real Thor is obviously the woman duh.

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So I'm confused.... We saw old king Thor in the god butcher arc right... Who existed in the future, interacted with his past selfs, and still had the hammer right.....

So why didn't old Thor tell his younger self "yet mighty me, that dick nick fury is going to whisper to you and we become unworthy... So just go lalalalalala not listening, THE KING OF ASGARD HAS SPOKEN"

Original sin = trash

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@deadpoolwins23: When? this events in O S 7 are after 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5...

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@mrhaire: Great first post you nailed it...

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"I killed Mufasa"

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@t_aesir: thanks, it's just sad I love Thor and the god butcher saga and love him as a character and generally like a lot of Jason Aaron's writing but this is just political correctness ruining comics

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The butthurt over this is simply immense.

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@mrhaire said:

So I'm confused.... We saw old king Thor in the god butcher arc right... Who existed in the future, interacted with his past selfs, and still had the hammer right.....

So why didn't old Thor tell his younger self "yet mighty me, that dick nick fury is going to whisper to you and we become unworthy... So just go lalalalalala not listening, THE KING OF ASGARD HAS SPOKEN"

Original sin = trash

why is there not a like button on this board. So wonders I.

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@t_aesir: Absolutely nothing... which is kind of what makes it so funny. You making big, portentous pronouncements from your high horse exhorting everyone to boycott this because it's not accurate to "the mythological Thor"...

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@arthurkerr: Thor hung out with his future self!! You would think it would come up in conversation "ye mighty Thor... Nick fury is going to drop some bull and some chick is going to take our hammer... Wear ear plugs around nick fury"

That or old Thor is either senile and forgot or he is a total jerk

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@andysynn: That s only your opinion, to me This was trash... i think you are in the minority here read all the posts... i m not exhorting anything or anyone, just giving my opinion, like you and everyone else, you should respect the opinion from everyone, like i respect yours.

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@t_aesir: Thats the thing, I love myth Thor, but this Thor is not him. Its Marvel Thor, just like there is Marvel Hercules. If I didn't separate the 2 maybe it would bother me but since I do I acknowledge this is something different and they can mess around with the pantheon and story any way they choose. I think that this new chick Thor will be cool. I kinda hope its Valkyrie. It kinda makes sense too because in Fearless Defenders she gets soul bound to a human person, and they share the same body. Kind of echoes classic mythology and old Marvel Thor. Like Donald Blake...... Hmm.

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I still don't get all the hate. I think this makes for an interesting story. Sure, Thor doesnt get to hold his hammer for the next few months, but guess what? ITS OKAY. I think Aaron understands Thor and he has proved that with his run. He is really exploring the character and the mythos.

God Butcher/Bomb arc was about what it means to be a god. The Malekith arc was an exploration of the 9 realms and a setup for a future story. The Last days of midgard was an earth based Thor story. Now Aaron wants to explore what it means to be worthy of the hammer with his own flare. I'm all for this. I think everyone who is angered by this is taking it way out of proportions.

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@furyoffrog: Look Thor is not a mantle its the Odinson birth name, even in marvel comics, if the girl that will pick the hammer stays with her birth name, fine to me... Angela its not in Norse Mythology and i like it, because its fresh air to Asgard, and marvel can not always follow the EDDAS because that will be boring, but Angela as her own personality and name, didn t steal nothing from no one... Female Thor will not be Valkyrie, i think will be Thor Granddaughter Frigg from future, but Valkyrie its out of equation by Axel Alonso and Jason Aaron statements ...

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@sagejonathan: I think the problem isn t anymore Thor be unworthy, that is done it s past, the problem here is how that happened and it was trash...Bad writing in my opinion... Jason Aaron as a good track record with Thor but also makes mistakes like this one...

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I don't think that was the best idea by Marvel but like many of the people on here I don't think it was a horrible one. I could agree with the theory Thor started a chain reaction leading to him being unworthy but I also have faith in Jason Aaron because he has been writing Thor and I have loved his take on the series. So I believe in future issues of Thor this will be explored. I don't believe they are just going to drop it right here.

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We all know that female Thor will last maybe a year at best... this isn't Dick grayson becoming batman or Bucky becoming Cap, this is completely different. I have no beef with female characters in fact i love them, but shoehorning a female Thor and completely turning the real Thor into a Jabroni is just sad

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@z3ro180 said:

I word your helmet as a jock strap for ma bawlz

rofflllzhzhzzhhhz really laughing out loud at this thread

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So, just so I get this straight, after all this time, with Mjolnir working just fine and deeming him worthy all Nick had to do was whisper some BS in his ear? It was almost as if Marvel forgot Mjolnir has deemed him unworthy based on things it didn't see at the time before. This would bring an interesting weakness to him though. I mean just think about it, Thor is worthy again and starts laying down some Hammer-time and one of the villains, let say Loki because he's popular, just goes, "Hey Thor, you remember that time at summer camp when you and Baldr-" Boom no more hammer.

oh man rooffllzlzzz im contemplating creating a twitter account where i store all these rolfz

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@mrhaire said:

So I'm confused.... We saw old king Thor in the god butcher arc right... Who existed in the future, interacted with his past selfs, and still had the hammer right.....

So why didn't old Thor tell his younger self "yet mighty me, that dick nick fury is going to whisper to you and we become unworthy... So just go lalalalalala not listening, THE KING OF ASGARD HAS SPOKEN"

Original sin = trash

hahahahahahhahhahhahahhah dear heavens, ya slaying me

@mrhaire said:

We all know that female Thor will last maybe a year at best... this isn't Dick grayson becoming batman or Bucky becoming Cap, this is completely different. I have no beef with female characters in fact i love them, but shoehorning a female Thor and completely turning the real Thor into a Jabroni is just sad

hahahah

you are my favorite new poster

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@mrhaire said:

@arthurkerr: Thor hung out with his future self!! You would think it would come up in conversation "ye mighty Thor... Nick fury is going to drop some bull and some chick is going to take our hammer... Wear ear plugs around nick fury"

That or old Thor is either senile and forgot or he is a total jerk

lmao its just horrible writing this is to funny will spawn a million jokes and only come off as the day Thor dropped the hammer.

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TWITTER ACCOUNT MADE

https://twitter.com/nickfurywhisper

#WHATDIDSTHOUSAY

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@t_aesir: Of course that's your opinion. But using such loaded words as "trash" to insult both the writers and the readers who do enjoy it means I am totally within my rights to call you out on it. As it stands your posts read like the ire of a self-righteous fanboy irritated that the writers aren't doing exactly what YOU tell them to do.

And making such a big issue of this not following "mythical" Thor only reinforces that suggestion. The simple fact is that the inscription on Thor's hammer is entirely a Marvel thing and is EXACTLY what allows them to have other people take on the mantle of Thor. In Marvel comics it clearly IS a mantle... because that's how it's written.

I'm not even sure that your anger makes sense... you attack things for not being exactly like the mythology on which it is loosely based... as if the new character is STEALING something... they're not real. They're not stealing anything. This is a story that the writers are telling.

They haven't yet fully explained yet WHY he's unworthy, and doubtless will do in the future... but you've immediately jumped on it, like a dog with a bone, and started attacking and criticising them for something that, as of yet, you don't really know anything about, just because YOU happen to dislike it.

Of course, that's just, like, my opinion, dude.

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@t_aesir: You ever see Hook? You know when Peter Banning comes from the real world to find that Pan has become a title.

If you wield Mjolnir, then you wield the power of Thor because you are worthy, is it not reasonable to think that this new Thor has become THE THOR. Not Thor Odinson, Thor. Just The Thor.

Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of ... Thor

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This event is GARBAGE. This is fighting for the Top spot of crappiest Comic book events since age of Ultron. Lets see how long it takes for this version of Nick fury to get retconned as another Crazy LMD.

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@andysynn: Thor its not a mantle in marvel comics...Its a Birth name, if its a mantle what will be Odinson name after being unworthy. Steve Rogers isn t called anymore Captain America that s a mantle.

@furyoffrog said:

@t_aesir: You ever see Hook? You know when Peter Banning comes from the real world to find that Pan has become a title.

If you wield Mjolnir, then you wield the power of Thor because you are worthy, is it not reasonable to think that this new Thor has become THE THOR. Not Thor Odinson, Thor. Just The Thor.

Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of ... Thor

Correct

Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of ... Thor, clear shall possess power of Thor, not become THOR, don t she have a name, she can have Thor power but with her own identity and name, don t you think...

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I actually was looking forward to a new Thor coming in, It seemed like it would be a good story to see how Thor suddenly becomes unworthy and his eventual return to the hero he was and more. And to see how a rookie would handle the new power and status of being Thor.

But this? Nick Fury and a Whisper....? really?? What a let down this was. So Thor must have killed innocents, or did something vile he thought no one knew about, but Fury did and when he told him this, the enhancement kicked in?

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I BELIEVE I HAVE THE ANSWER: THOR, ALDRIF HAS KIDS!!!!

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@furyoffrog said:

@t_aesir: You ever see Hook? You know when Peter Banning comes from the real world to find that Pan has become a title.

If you wield Mjolnir, then you wield the power of Thor because you are worthy, is it not reasonable to think that this new Thor has become THE THOR. Not Thor Odinson, Thor. Just The Thor.

Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of ... Thor

Thor is not a title that is the most lame bullshit to ever cross the mind of anybody.

Thor is his name. It was what he was gifted with when he was born. Look dear before I take our son home to Asgard it is your son. What will you name him.

Thor he will be called Thor.

So it was for all time and that is who he is. To simply take his name is wrong.

You are no longer worthy or must I whisper to you about what you did last summer?

Wow.

Oh and Yes I seen Hook awesome movie but nobody was Peter Pan but Peter Pan. The other kid was Rufyel or something like that.

There could be only one Peter Pan.

If you watched the second movie you would see he never left because of that very reason.

Great movie by the way.

Oh and RIP Robin Williams you did well in this life.

Great actor he will be missed.

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A whisper?

Are you telling me that's what ends up screwing Thor out of his hammer? A f**king whisper?

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I have no serious beef with Thor becoming unworthy or Jason Aaron as a writer... he has made a lot of good stuff in the past, but can we please just admit this whole move was done out of political correctness and nothing else.... the idea of Thor losing the hammer isn't bad at all but shoehorning a female Thor makes no sense, they made the announcement on the view you guys and something is telling me whoopi isnt going to be waiting in line on wednesday to get a new issue of thor!

people who love Thor and the comics will continue to read them regardless, us comic nerds are already hooked they have our money already... this move was made entirely to get headlines and guess what??? IT WORKED HERE WE ARE ARGUING ABOUT IT!!!

It makes me sad when i realize need to read more Game of thrones and less comics because of PC moves like this

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@andysynn: You should waited more time to accuse more users of irritated F. Boys like the opinion below...

@rainja said:

This event is GARBAGE. This is fighting for the Top spot of crappiest Comic book events since age of Ultron. Lets see how long it takes for this version of Nick fury to get retconned as another Crazy LMD.

Yes it is...

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@t_aesir said:

What made Thor unworthy was Jason Aaron stupid writing, to force the identity theft, aka female that never will be Thor, because its not a mantle it s his birth name, and a old Norse male name, that marvel didn t created, only copy from Norse Mythology.

Marvel is only is interested in making headlines, disrespecting Thor and his past of honer, bravery and the Valhalla spirit, and by making this, it s disrespecting Thor long time fans.

Pretty much this. Aaron's run on Thor with the conclusion of "Last Days of Midgard" has been a magnificent take on the character (with a couple tiny flaws, sure), and then Marvel has another stupid "creative summit' and throws this garbage out there for mere publicity, when we know the status quo will be restored probably six months later. I haven't touched a Marvel comic since the announcement. I would've never had a problem with a story about Thor temporarily losing Mjolnir and then regaining his worthiness, but the whole "female Thor" stuff is just ridiculous.

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@veitha said:

@thatlyn_yoaeg_ill_rymmin said:

"ALDR..."

...well, Aldrif is the real name of Angela...

oh, interesting.

Thor Aldrif Kids?

The last letter is O.. I don't think it's Aldrif.

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"Thor, i have a bad news for you"

@shazam117 said:

What made Thor all of a sudden unworthy?

Fury must of whispered..."I know what you did with your sister"

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Lol)

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"Your Daddy never loved you"

Thats one of the most hilarious answers I have seen so far.

Hahahahahaha xD

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When the new lady Thor was announced, I was really excited to find out what it was that made Thor unworthy. This uh…. this is profoundly disappointing.

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maybe he told him that he knows he dyes his hair blonde when he is truly a red head.