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ORIGINAL SIN #7: What Made Thor Unworthy?

We know something makes him unworthy of Mjolnir.

If you haven't read this week's ORIGINAL SIN #7, there will be some tiny spoilers. It shouldn't be too much of a spoiler because when Marvel announced a female Thor was coming, back in July, it was also mentioned something happens to make Thor unworthy of Mjolnir.

The question is, what makes him unworthy?

In ORIGINAL SIN #7, the Avengers are fighting the true Nick Fury. They're not fully sure why he's now old or what his involvement in the death of the Watcher is but they're in full force to stop whatever he's doing. As Thor approaches Fury to take him out, Nick whispers something to Thor.

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You can barely see what Nick said. Looks like Thor was even caught off guard.

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What did he say, indeed? That's the big question. We've been wondering what Thor will do to become unworthy. It looks like maybe he already has done something. Is this something he just wasn't aware of? It's a little odd that if he committed some unworthy act, he shouldn't be able to wield Mjolnir. More likely he's done something that's caused a chain reaction and the final result was something really bad. Hearing about it is what made the Mjolnir unworthy clause kick in.

Still, if he did something, knowingly or unknowingly, you would think that'd become a factor, immediately. The result of this whisper was Thor being unable to lift the hammer.

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With all of this, we still don't know what was said. I actually read this issue on my iPad after getting it through the Marvel app. So of course I tried zooming in as much as I could.

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It almost looks like you can make out what was being said. Did they actually letter the big secret and then fuzz it out a little? Or is this just some gibberish to fool those of us that try to zoom in like this?

Let's hear from all of you. What do you think Thor did that made him unworthy? What did Fury whisper? I'm sure it wasn't that he left the water running during a drought on Asgard. What could Thor have done, without realizing it, that made him unworthy? Did he have to be aware of the act or was he aware and just kept it as his dark little secret?

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@furyoffrog: the way that marvel is disrespecting Thor character history in battle with this poor writing, just to force a change, will only make Thor fans reject the new female Thor now and in a future spin off...

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I cant believe it, he became the dramatic meme face

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Okay I just now who forgot posted this so I' sorry I am not taking credit for this but come on people did you think Aaron (The Writer of BOTH Original Sin and THOR) would just have no reasoning behind it? He is gonna have Thor deal with the losing his hammer in an upcoming Thor issue

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@redhush1: I did, but i posted that image to point that Frigg Wodendottir could be the new female Thor.

Jason Aaron made a poor writing in the issue of O S, even if he explains it latter, to me that dosen t make things any better, the way Thor loses the hammer is stupid...

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@t_aesir said:

@redhush1: I did, but i posted that image to point that Frigg Wodendottir could be the new female Thor.

Jason Aaron made a poor writing in the issue of O S, even if he explains it latter, to me that dosen t make things any better, the way Thor loses the hammer is stupid...

art thou unwell? that is the BEST!!!!!!!

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@teerack: actually there would be tons wrong with it. Jason Aaron has spent his whole Thor series showing why he is worthy. It wouldn't be a character flaw, thor already has those. It would defeat the purpose of take away how special mjolnir is. Removing the enchantment would also mean anyone can lift it. Its just hammer at that point. There's nothing to suggest king Thor isn't worthy. He wouldn't just remove the enchantment.

No group of writers is going to have thor using an Axe for the next few thousand years.

No things like this that branch out for an event and have hints in other books are always things that are agreed upon by a group of people writers/editors. Just because you don't like doesn't mean it's not a character flaw lol. No duh Thor is already flawed but that doesn't mean anything what so ever since having flaws doesn't mean you can't make more mistakes and have more flaws... that's kind of the opposite of how life works. Old Thor spend a good chunk of the God Butcher story telling us what a failure he was, and then int he following story unleashed the black blade trying to save a dead planet as his own little memento which is super selfish and irresponsible it wouldn't be that surprising to me. It could also just mean that since Thor lives for so long it takes him thousands of years to become worthy again and retake the throne of Asgard from All Father Ultron. I mean they already have young Thor stories who isn't worthy and then old Thor stories who is worthy, so I think they have more then enough freedom to do what they want with the present Thor.

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Pissed, utterly!

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True with a support cast as lame as his to just turn their backs on him I would wonder not about Thor but those he calls his friends and family.

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i tried to read it and i just can think about Fury saying a family secret of thor: that mjolnir was intended for aldrif/angela. that he is aldrif's dad or that thor had done something to aldrif and he erased that memory.

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slowly but surely they are trying to kill thor. they don't like who he is so they bring in someone new to replace him and this has happened how many times now?

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It would be pretty dumb to think that someone could whisper something that would make Thor unworthy. What likely happened is that THOR'S REACTION to what fury said made him unworthy.

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I wonder if issue 25 will be the last real Thor issue before we get female Thor. Its starting in October so probably. Such an amazing series that rejuvenated Thor ending on such BS.

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@jayc1324:

Original Sin 5.4 August 20, 2014

Original Sin 08 August 27, 2014

Original Sin 5.5 September 3, 2014

Thor: God of Thunder 25 September 17, 2014

Loki: Agent of Asgard 06 September 24, 2014

Thor (?????) (Female) 01 October 1, 2014

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@t_aesir: so I guess that's a yes. Can't believe I'm actually gonna be buying a book with a female Thor

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@jayc1324: If the horrible writing of Jason Aaron continues after the events of O S 7, only to force the female crap, i will prefer buy 2 issues with different covers of Angela Asgard Assassin, (Real Thor unworthy or not will be there)...

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@andysynn: "you go away for a little while and come back to such impotent, infantile whining." Then you include this gem, "the desperate attempts to grab the moral high ground and characterise everyone who disagrees with you as stupid..." Are you not guilty of what you accuse others of doing? Physician, heal thyself.

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For me Nick said "your naked mother" and the thought of it made Thor unworthy.

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I understand the whole secret thing. If we think about it, there's no reason to why mjolnir would be omniscient. What I'm saying is: How exactly would mjolnir know the "sins" the person who is trying to lift it commited? Most likely, mjolnir's magic reads it's mind, and transfers the knowledge to the hammer, that judges if the person is worthy or not.

Mjolnir is not the watcher. It only knows what the wielder knows, most likely. That's why what fury did makes sense. Thor didn't know something, something very important. Something he had no idea he caused or did. Now he has. Mjolnir then reads it's mind, and being aware of that, considers thor unworthy.

I think this unworthy thor arc might be very good, actually: We'll now see what makes thor the god of thunder. We'll see everything he's capable of without mjonir. And the plot is very interesting: Seeing thor's greatest sin, and seeing thor trying to undo or pay for that sin, in order to become worthy again.

However, the female thor.... eh, not so good. Because as you guys said, thor is not a title, he is a "person", he's Thor odinson. I have no problem with another person wielding mjolnir, even a woman. No problem. The problem is that hse is calling herself thor, and she is NOT thor. That's what bugs me.

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Is Thor's life force no longer connected with Mjolnir?

I guess last time he died it could have reset or they are just ignoring it.

Also is it the hammer that deems someone worthy or the Odin Force. Thor has been deemed unworthy before by the Odin Force

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@black_arrow said:

For me Nick said "your naked mother" and the thought of it made Thor unworthy.

lol you've just earned your way unto my whatdidthousay twitter account lolz ... http://twitter.com/nickfurywhisper

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They are doing their own thing and ignoring anything that would counter the argument. Thor Unworthy , lost his pop tarts Odin said nobody but you will use Mjolnir when Eric had his run and so on and so on and fans upset and yet they insist.

So hope you like your other characters because if they can change Thor into Thoradite then whom is next Rogue a man , Professor X a chimp from Rise of the apes , Zeus a cross dressing god with personality disorders and Odin a shape changer who also strips at the local clubs every Tuesday and Thursday for ale. The world turns upside down and nothing is good enough. Everything happens on a Thursday , Clone Spiderman , Turn Thor into a women , Iron Man gets a suit of armor that could only be described as a sex tool , and if Dr Strange does not eat soon he will be blown away by the dust devils.

If we have a problem with any of it we are labeled haters and if we do not have a problem with any of it we are labeled brown noser's and if we simply do not read comics at all well they label them not keeping up with the changing trends and shit who wants to fall behind on the changing trends.

So in to sum it all up , Thor is changing into a cross dressing she man not this story but some story down the line. Iron Man will soon be a self aware depressed robot because hey who did not like That robot from The Complete Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy and Wonder Women will Switch to marvel where she will be changed into a man and people will say.. I wonder about that man..Oh Wonderman yeah we wonder to.

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They are doing their own thing and ignoring anything that would counter the argument. Thor Unworthy , lost his pop tarts Odin said nobody but you will use Mjolnir when Eric had his run and so on and so on and fans upset and yet they insist.

So hope you like your other characters because if they can change Thor into Thoradite then whom is next Rogue a man , Professor X a chimp from Rise of the apes , Zeus a cross dressing god with personality disorders and Odin a shape changer who also strips at the local clubs every Tuesday and Thursday for ale. The world turns upside down and nothing is good enough. Everything happens on a Thursday , Clone Spiderman , Turn Thor into a women , Iron Man gets a suit of armor that could only be described as a sex tool , and if Dr Strange does not eat soon he will be blown away by the dust devils.

If we have a problem with any of it we are labeled haters and if we do not have a problem with any of it we are labeled brown noser's and if we simply do not read comics at all well they label them not keeping up with the changing trends and shit who wants to fall behind on the changing trends.

So in to sum it all up , Thor is changing into a cross dressing she man not this story but some story down the line. Iron Man will soon be a self aware depressed robot because hey who did not like That robot from The Complete Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy and Wonder Women will Switch to marvel where she will be changed into a man and people will say.. I wonder about that man..Oh Wonderman yeah we wonder to.

roflz you're a riot

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**** this shit.

Short but true.

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@arthurkerr said:

They are doing their own thing and ignoring anything that would counter the argument. Thor Unworthy , lost his pop tarts Odin said nobody but you will use Mjolnir when Eric had his run and so on and so on and fans upset and yet they insist.

So hope you like your other characters because if they can change Thor into Thoradite then whom is next Rogue a man , Professor X a chimp from Rise of the apes , Zeus a cross dressing god with personality disorders and Odin a shape changer who also strips at the local clubs every Tuesday and Thursday for ale. The world turns upside down and nothing is good enough. Everything happens on a Thursday , Clone Spiderman , Turn Thor into a women , Iron Man gets a suit of armor that could only be described as a sex tool , and if Dr Strange does not eat soon he will be blown away by the dust devils.

If we have a problem with any of it we are labeled haters and if we do not have a problem with any of it we are labeled brown noser's and if we simply do not read comics at all well they label them not keeping up with the changing trends and shit who wants to fall behind on the changing trends.

So in to sum it all up , Thor is changing into a cross dressing she man not this story but some story down the line. Iron Man will soon be a self aware depressed robot because hey who did not like That robot from The Complete Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy and Wonder Women will Switch to marvel where she will be changed into a man and people will say.. I wonder about that man..Oh Wonderman yeah we wonder to.

roflz you're a riot

Thanks if you cannot make people laugh. I see not point lol

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I thought Thor already became unworthy in the past so I don't know why people are hopping all over that. I can see why people are surprised by change towards a female lead but I thought Thor swaying from worthy to unworthy was as common as Spider-Man dying.

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@juke said:

I thought Thor already became unworthy in the past so I don't know why people are hopping all over that. I can see why people are surprised by change towards a female lead but I thought Thor swaying from worthy to unworthy was as common as Spider-Man dying.

Wow unworthy a common theme for Thor please say thee nay. Thor you burnt your toast....nooooooooooooooo I am unworthy for toast ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what about my eggs....Thor falls into yet another pit of despair....

oh and please past the salt says Loki Thor does this every other week. I on the other hand need to eat....

Mom why you give Balder more ham then anybody else do you love him more says Loki?

Hmmmmmmm I could see why Sifs parents would not want them hanging out if he swings to the unworthy side every other story.

No Thor our daughter finds you unworthy of her time and affection but since you are still Prince and her boss she will be to work on time. But remember it is casual Friday so she will be in jeans and a tshirt and short shorts today. Oh and here eat this toast Sif can at least make that...

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@t_aesir said:

@furyoffrog: If you like the classic mythological Thor, you should hate the new female Thor because she has 0,000000 of mythology...

If you like peanut butter, you should hate jelly because jelly doesn't have nuts. Just because it might be different and have a sweetness that can also be delicious, no nuts means it's pretty much the worst. You know what also doesn't have nuts? Female Thor ;)

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@theblackhood: You're talking Claremont's Siege Perilous Wolverine cruxifiction, good issue.

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@comedyknight:

I said my piece ain't much left for me to say on this topic...

01 This is a marvel publicity stunt that the company put above the the Character, disrespecting the character and all his fans like me.

02 I love Norse mythology and i usually buy all marvel books that are Asgard related, but in future only buying Loki Agent of Asgard, and Angela new book, she is not part of Norse Mythology (Marvel can t always follow the Eddas, if that happened it will be boring) but Angela is authentic, as her own personality and name, not a parasite like the identity thief.

03 If you think that way, in next October you buy The female publicity stunt new book...

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This is what Fury really said to Thor...

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@wolfus: Good effort to try and give credence to this utterly piss poor idea of removing Thor's worthiness and making his name a mantle, but it's still ridiculous that Nick Fury of all people would be able to do this. We've also had 50+ years of Thor stories to illustrate why he is worthy to wield Mjolnir. This whole stunt is just wrong on so many levels.

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@haveatthee: Oh,you got it wrong, bro. When I found out about this I got pissed just as much as any Thor fan.

I thought that Thor would dissapear or something, or he would be just replaced.

But then I heard about unworthy Thor. And I thought: Hell, why not? Now see why Thor is the god of thunder, and not the god of mjolnir.

About fury... He did have the watcher's eye. But I guess you're right, ot should've beeb someone from thor's comic.

But the worst is the b*tch claiming to be Thor.

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@super_soldierxii said:

Falcon is not Steve Rogers just because he carries the shield. Hokey stuff.

No one said he was. They said he will be Captain America, not Steve Rodgers. Others have carried the shield and worn the uniform and have been Captain America. This is that.

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@t_aesir said:

What made Thor unworthy was Jason Aaron stupid writing, to force the identity theft, aka female that never will be Thor, because its not a mantle it s his birth name, and a old Norse male name, that marvel didn t created, only copy from Norse Mythology.

Marvel is only is interested in making headlines, disrespecting Thor and his past of honer, bravery and the Valhalla spirit, and by making this, it s disrespecting Thor long time fans.

People need to let this sh** go. It's happening. Marvel is disrespecting you? Please.

Are you even reading Thor right now?

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@dubyanw: Yes i am reading Thor God of Thunder and Original Sin...

Marvel could be disrespecting all Scandinavia because Thor was created there not by Marvel, if Marvel wants to adapt the character to praise him its ok to Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, if Marvel want s to do this kind of crap like in O S 7 and a female Thor, that s a offense to some country s that Thor Mythology is a part of their history.

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Fury probably said he took advantage of Thor's booty hole.

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@jayc1324 said:

@t_aesir: so I guess that's a yes. Can't believe I'm actually gonna be buying a book with a female Thor

I would not touch this female Thor if it were a free book.

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@arthurkerr: I don't really wanna read it either but I want to keep up on the unworthy Thor story (which is still stupid anyway) and see if female Thor is good or not

I'll at least get the first issue

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im not buying any issues until this sham is over

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Good thing we still have BRB

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"Hail Hydra!" Obviously.

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"Thor I am your Father!" lol

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How can the worthy enchantment effect Thor when Dr. Strange fused part of Thor's life force with Mjolnir to repair it? Mjolnir should obey Thor no matter what now since if Mjolnir breakes again Thor dies.

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story line , bahumbug we throw that out lol.

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Original Sin is evilllllllll

not sure about evil but it looks ill conceived and over all bad.