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Off My Mind: Wolverine—Greatest Teacher or Completely Irresponsible?

He might have the best intentions for running the Jean Grey School for Higher Learning but his approaches may be questionable.

Wolverine is the best there is at what he does but does that include teaching? Since Schism and his disagreement with Cyclops over the mutant children in their care, Wolverine has been trying something different. He may have been molded into becoming one of the greatest killers and warriors in the world but that isn't what he wants for the next generation. He firmly believes they should be taught survival skills as well as how to best use their powers but he doesn't feel they should be trained to be soldiers.

Wolverine has been known to be one of the greatest mentors around. In the past, he took Kitty Pryde, Jubilee, Armor and even X-23 under his wing. For as much of a killer he can be, he has a soft-side to him and knows how to take care of and bring up young kids.

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Since the Jean Grey School for Higher Learning opened, they've had a rocky beginning. They are moving in some radical directions in giving the students the best possible education, both in terms of their powers and a regular education. The methods that Wolverine has implemented and allowed to be used could be called into question.

With all the fun, excitement and dangers with the school, is Wolverine the best teacher there is or is he being completely reckless with the children attending the school?

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If anything, you can't say the school is boring. The students have so much power at their fingertips and many have already faced huge threats. Trying to get them to stay seated in a classroom setting could be a difficult task. The majority of the students actually want to be at the school. They can see that this school could be a fun and exciting place. Wolverine isn't necessarily a by-the-books kind of guy. That could work for and against them. There are several things that make Wolverine a questionable teacher.

Wolverine is Still a Killer

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Wolverine believes that there are times extreme measures have to be taken. As part of X-Force, they seek out the deadly threats against the X-Men, Mutants, the school and innocents in general. He does it so others remain safe and don't have to be faced with the dilemma of having to make hard choices.

There are two problems with this. One, a cold-hearted killer shouldn't be placed in charge of impressionable children. If they start to look up to Wolverine or think he's cool, they might believe that their powers could be use to follow in his footsteps.

The second problem here is killer bad guys could lead to associates of the deceased looking for revenge. If they come looking for Wolverine, they may choose to pay a visit to the school.

This leads to another point:

Everyone Knows About the School

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On the very first day the school opened, they were attacked. This could be the biggest sign of Wolverine's irresponsibility. If he's so concerned over the safety of these young mutants, publicly opening up a school is the worst thing he could do. Part of the reason Schism occurred was over Utopia, their home and base, being targeted by a Sentinel. Opening up a new school on the destroyed remains of Xavier's school (which was also attacked many many times) is a giant invitation to enemies of the X-Men and mutant haters in the world.

Is the School Safe for Students?

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Wolverine's goal is to teach the students and prepare them for the future and any incoming danger. Besides being a target for enemies, the actual school itself presents some threats. Beast has been busy trying to rewire the school and implement advanced technology. It might have been a good idea to make sure everything was running properly and wouldn't malfunction on the students.

One of the surprises was installing a Danger Room in the bathroom (and pretty much everywhere in the school). The idea of the Danger Room was to have a place to simulate different environments and dangers as part of training sessions. Now when unsuspecting mutants try taking care of personal business, they may find themselves in the middle of a Danger Room exam.

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Another example of possible danger is the way some of the lessons are presented. In examining the "majestic wonders of the mutant body," students were shrunk down and journeyed inside an actual mutant body. With a lack of firm discipline over the students, keeping an eye on them while they are microscopic size and are let loose in a body could lead to bad things. Later, one of the students decides to handle a threat inside Kitty Pryde himself and is able to shrink himself down to attack the threat. This is a risk to his life plus as he's simply attacking left and right inside the Kitty's body, she is also placed in danger. The fact that he was able to so easily access the technology to shrink himself and enter another person's body before anyone could stop him raises some questions about the staff of Wolverine's school.

Wolverine is Not Always Present at the School

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Wolverine is on several different teams. He's part of the X-Men, X-Force and Avengers. Where does he find the time to go on missions with each of those teams while still worry about the school's budget and curriculum?

When it came to the budget and the funding of the school, he had an idea and left with Quentin Quire. The thing is, he didn't just leave the school or the city or the state. He left the entire planet. He didn't bother to tell anyone that he was leaving or where they were going. When the school was attacked, no one had a clue where he was.

Abusing Mutant Powers for Personal Gain

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As Wolverine leaves the planet on a one-on-one field trip with Quentin Quire, we might have a better understanding why he didn't tell anyone where they were going. His plan to raise more money to handle the incredible costs of running the school (and paying for the constant repairs) is to go gambling.

Wolverine takes Quentin to a dangerous planet full of high stakes gambling with the intentions of having Quentin use his telepathy to help him cheat to win.

Not only his he exposing a student to locations and situations that are inappropriate, there's also the matter of child endangerment. Quentin may be an extremely super powerful mutant but this is his first time off planet. His overconfidence and lack of experience could easily put him into extremely harmful situations. And gambling is bad, kids.

What Does This Say About Wolverine as a Teacher?

With Wolverine in charge, there won't be a dull moment. He might try to be a stickler when it comes to the rules but this is Wolverine we're talking about. He's broken more rules than he's kept. He has decades of experience to pass onto the students. When someone or something threatens the students, if he's actually at the school, he will do whatever it takes to protect them and won't be easily stopped.

Wolverine's methods might be questionable but the students will learn things they could never learn in a more structured environment. They just need to be able to survive long enough to appreciate them.

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Anyone else notice that since Schism wolvie's students have spent a heck of a lot more time fighting off baddies while deffending their turf then Cyclops' soldier students. In fact aside from hope the only non-sparring activity they have done was to rescue shaw.... One more reason why team cyclops was right... and team wolvie is stupid.

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Logan would be lost without Beast and Kitty, and wanting to keep the kids from fighting is idealistic but foolish.

How many times has the school been attacked now since it opened? How many more times will it be attacked? How many students will be killed before Wolverine realizes this just isn't going to work the way he wants?

Prodigy made a good point about how less kids have died since the X-Men moved to Utopia under Cyclops then they had back at the mansion. These kids have been targets from the moment their x-gene activated, they might as well be targets that shoot back.

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Well of course he's a terrible headmaster. That's kind of the whole point in giving him the school. We've had years of good schooling under Xavier.

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@lykopis: Well, aside from the fact that he can read and has been shown to, how often does Wolverine display a taste of knowledge of literature (aside from clearly Sun Tzu?), or even display a grasp of proper grammar itself. Sorry but I stand that it's silly. Sure Beast may be too busy, despite he's probably the character that would be heart felt in teaching that course and almost insist on it given his character has a long displayed history in comics of showing his deep passion for literature and the English language, but Wolverine isn't even more busy, just given what G-Man laid out in this very article about that? Sorry, but I find it poorly thought out, if anything the subject in particular was used in an attempt to blatantly display the contrast between two aspects of Wolverines life and be comical at the same time. Personally that's a put off for me with this series, as I go to comics like the Tick for that kind of entertainment, not Wolverine and X-Men books, but I feel I went into detail enough on that in the thread about the first issue of this series. I think my opinion is fully relevant.

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Repeat again Logan he knows that he can't run the school alone for this reason he had Hank, Kitty and the others for doing the job. And as for the danger room, if i'm not wrong the school was designed and built by Hank

During Second Coming Utopia was heavily attached and Nightcrawler, Ariel and Cable died and at the same time Karma lost her leg and Hellion lost his arms. Until now the school hadn't casualties. Sure it was attacked and it will be in the future because otherwise there wouldn't be any story to tell. But the point of the schism wasn't about fighting or not but about having the kids assist in battles. And from what we have seen until now the majority of the students were kept away from the battle. Actually the school has a portal to a mini dimension that allow to keep safe the students when the school is under attack.

As for Utopia's future i wouldn't be so sure for how much time yet is not going to be under attack, since we are near to AvX event and the avengers are going to "pay a visit".

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@airbound_dude said:

@notlupus said:

the thing that many people missed with the whoel Schism thing is, Logan is aware that these children are going to be put in danger. He just feels that they should have a chance at a normal life if they wish to leave the X-men when they become adults. Cyclops was doing nothing to train or prepare them, when was the last time that there was an actual class taught on Utopia post Dark Reign? Cyclops didn't give any of the students a chance.

Wolverine is killing people that are or could be threats to the school. If he thinks that say Foolkiller could one day pose a threat to the students or attack the grounds he's going to gut him first chance he gets.

Everybody knew where Xavier's School was, everybody knew where the "school" on the mainland San Fran was. Now Cyclops has raised an island off the coast that could just as easily be attacked is.

The school grounds actually now pose a threat for any invaders to the actual school , Karoka and the entire buildings a danger room played pivotal plot points in this weeks issue. Imagine if the entire Enterprise was a holodeck, First Contact would have lasted all of 20 minutes, granted 20 minutes of the crew running around with holo tommy guns massacring borg.

Wolverine doesn't sleep lol

I think Wolverine is trying to show Quire that he can still have fun while doing good with his powers.

I really wish that we have an Avengers Academy / Jean Grey school crossover in the future, they both are trying to accomplish the same things.

you're right and since Cyclops has formed the Brotherhood of X-Men ( Uncanny X-men), their motto is more isolation than helping other mutants. Wolverine is giving them a chance to choose: Fight or have a normal life (as normal as it gets for mutants). Plus Wolverine's school is more prepared for an attack. As for him being absent, he is doing whatever it takes to keep the school running. We are seeing what it takes from an administrative point of view, with the money resources, to the staff.We always sawed the school ( Xavier's ) from the student POV. Now we are seeing it from the staff POV. Not easy to run a school. I feel frustrated that Marvel has chosen to almost disregard Xavier since he is the reason why they're called the X-men in the first place. If Cyclops hates Xavier that much why not change the name of his team. Wolverine is doing what Xavier did and as a viewer I have more appreciation for Xavier's work to help both mutant and humans alike. Logan is following that legacy.

Wolverine is not following Xavier's legacy. Xavier was a true pacifist who only believed in force when there was no other option, and even then almost never would suggest the use of deadly force, which of course Wolverine uses to his leisure. His philosophy seems to be "Follow what I say, not what I do" which of course never works. Also he needs to stop acting so high and mighty. He is turning into Fred Phelps with finger knives.

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@CATPANEXE:

I respect your take on it - and while I do agree with you that Beast is more suited for running an English Class, my point was that he is running the Biology class and has his own department to run within the institute (which he would be the best candidate for). My comment about Beast being busy was specifically in regards to the school but I could point out he himself has Avenger duties, not including the Secret Avengers so is therefore as occupied as Wolverine.

I take it that you feel that because Wolverine speaks with less grammar as say Beast, he isn't qualified to run an English class? Again, your opinion but I do see your point. But to say he is incapable of running an English class - or being a teacher at all, I do disagree with. He has experience in the school environment, his literary knowledge is extensive, and he is a vetted professor, as is all the instructors at the school. Your opinion, as are many that you have, is very relevant, as is mine. Like I said. I can see your points - I don't dispute them except in your take of Wolverine's literary abilities. His tastes are very cultured, as demonstrated recently prior to Schism.

And yes, absolutely - its ridiculous how Marvel has him in so many books - doing so many things, and then dismissing it as a night-time occupation. Wolverine is their cash-cow - there is no denying that.

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...good lord..aha

i think he should be a history teacher..i mean afterall hasnt he been through like 11 decades of American history? or is that just in the movie? lol

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As for Logan and the English Literature besides Rucka's run that we saw them a lot of times reading there is a perticular scene in Wolverine #5.1 where Melita invited many friends of Logan for a birthday party and we saw Luke Gage saying that he wanted to bring as present a book but he didn't, because he knew that Logan actually have red much everything. And there is another scene in UXF #10 when Psylocke enter at Logan's room and we saw him reading the "Old man and the Sea". Sure Logan is not familiar with scientific texts, but i think he red many romances and novels during his long life

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I think Wolverine is irresponsible and not competent to be a teacher. Most of the staff members don't even have teaching degrees nor degrees in any field related to what they are teaching. It shows how limited Charles Xavier himself was in that he had favored Cyclops and Jean ended up being the best candidate overall.

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@lykopis:Their speech is part of yes. More, application. Wolverine has books and reads. So what? Who doesn't. That doesn't exactly make anyone best suited to teach a subject on it. I've been studying quantum mechanics heavily again as of late for example. But I wouldn't consider myself in a position to teach it, nor apply it and claim I'm skilled in it myself. Nor would I Wolverine. Beast I would though. Why though? It's the application. A person can read about and even claim to have knowledge of something, but it isn't valid without application. A person can be knowledgeable and love art, but not in a position to teach it, as well, and to your question, suck at art despite knowing much about it and even believing themselves their own art must be great. Culture and capacity are two different things. Hank doesn't just show application in literature, he shows it in huge regards as well as constantly displays that it's a specific subject that he appreciates above much of anything else, particularly why it's beautiful and important. Wolverines application, well, aside from showing to read a book (which is done to make a metaphoric point in the story, Old Man And The Sea for example, not display that he has a great grasp of literature. It's a background prop commonly used in visual fiction to make an allusion about the story and/or character.) shows grossly that he doesn't really grasp it at all. Wolverine smoked a lot of cigars, probably knows much about them, but that doesn't mean he has the capacity to actually make cigars. The other, again is the time to dictate to the cause, though majorly who would insist on teaching that course (Hank would I believe, and be very jubilant about doing it), which it's shown specifically that Beast has much more time than Wolverine does to dedicate to that (Wolverine #73 to be real specific, oddly another work by Aaron involving writing Wolverine that his work in WATXM doesn't match at all?). And I mean not in the way that both characters are engaged, one having a little more free time, but a vast world of difference here. I think it's goofy and the writer really didn't think about it, not even the details your laying out. As for being a teacher all together, lumping his entire history to current (again including Jason's other work) it really shows that there's every reason he shouldn't be teaching as opposed to for, and more, that in consideration of him against other X-Men class members he would be the worst choice. I can for fact write an article myself an easy fifteen or more times the length of this post, and I'm sure I'm not alone, and that's a testament to why. It's also silly to think the class would even follow him at all in the first place. Nor even take sides and except this two sided placement of the species, rather than telling both Cyclops and Wolverine to go out for coffee and make up. It stands more to me that it's a commercial ploy, and I think it shows heavily, and is poorly executed especially in light of the fact that factions among mutants and titles specific to them is nothing new, yet, and in the X-Men books best selling years where they set the precedent for all comics, were written minding rationalization more. The comic itself otherwise reads to me like something that should be an alternate universe, What If?, ect, but that's another matter. I respect your right to enjoy the series, many do. But I can't agree to the logic your imposing, nor that any logic was put in the writing of many of the details of this series, nor to the entire storyline that culminated Schism/Regenesis for that matter. It all seems really force just to try and grab the X-Universe former glory, especially in having two prominent flagship titles at the mast though not limited to, and the reasons for the stories and motivations behind the characters actions seem really murky to me, or just pushed in a direction to accord to the project itself coming into print. Not unlike many of the associations between characters and several of Marvels more recent large scale events actually, Siege and Fear Itself to point out some.

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@KainScion: i concur wolverine is one of the best teachers

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Though i do believe cyclops is better than wolverine

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@CATPANEXE:

Wolverine is absolutely not the best suited to teach English Lit. out of all the faculty members of the Institute. But - like all other elementary and secondary teachers in the US - there is a standard curriculum that each state imposes - following it would not be too difficult. If this was a complicated course, such as Quantum Physics? You would need to know a basic amount in order to teach it. English Lit? I think Wolverine has the basics, at least.

I don't like Schism - I don't like a lot of things lately Marvel-wise, and frankly, the real reason I am enjoying this book is more the focus on characters that have otherwise been left to languish. If only it could be called Jean Grey Institute - or X-Men Academy, I would be much happier. But no - there has to be Wolverine involved. I really like Wolverine, I will always follow him wherever he goes, but if he barely showed up in this book I would be happier for it. Time for Rachel and Kitty and Husk and Iceman to come forward, let alone the students.

LOL - but yes, it does read almost like a What If? series. It is forced, it is annoying - like so many story lines being presented right now.

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@lykopis:

In the details he could teach it, agreed. But should or would? I think it was a silly little thing stuck in there, no more no less and no logic backing it.

Everywhere huh? Even his weird cow/skrull/fetish/bondage thing in Skrull Kill Krew? (my personal favorite Wolverine appearance of course, no need to even ask). ;)

I do like the inclusion of certain other characters, but, they had inclusion without this series anyway and better stories there in my opinion, so I won't credit it for that. Well maybe Husk.

I'm coming off making a point. I don't hate current comics, nor think they're rubbish. But there's a lot left to be desired, especially when it's the books that specifically hooked me on comics.

A reason I'm more excited when the comics I read by anyone other than the big two come out then the big tow themselves I guess. They don't seem to pander to as many issues them, and again another that shows right now in the quality of the works themselves. I know that I live in a fast food world right now, but on a personal basis I prefer to eat whats substantial.

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I'm not knocking wolverine's idea with this whole school thing. I think it was dumb to divide the mutants at a time like this but I think wolverine's heart, at least is in the right place. And if the kids end up a little better off thanks to this then it won't have been a total waste. But only time will tell if they succeed or fail. What I am knocking is this whole I dea that Wolverine is somehow "following Xavier's dream" anymore than Scott is. Anyone whose read an old X men comic should know that Xavier was 100% for sending kids on super dangerous missions. That's what the original team of 5 was all about. And don't forget all the young recruits like jubilee, boom boom, wolfsbane, pixie, Moonstar, sunspot etc who were on the front lines. And chuck pretty much got vulcan's team killed. He wasn't just being irresponsible or a monster, a lot of these things were just necessary to save lives, both mutant and non-mutant, all over the world. But Xavier is no saint, he makes mistakes just like everyone else. Wolverine isn't copying Xavier's plan, he's got his own unique ides for the Jean Grey school, they might have been inspired by Charles but wolverine will never be a carbon copy of professor x. He already does things that Xavier probably wouldn't have done, like the danger room tech being used all over the school, and gambling to win cash to pay the bills, and using X-force as a kill squad (which I'm pretty sure was Scott's idea anyway). Scott and Logan are not "the magneto and professor x of their generation". They're their own people with their own ideas on leadership.

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I truly believe Wolverine is the best person to learn from in the Marvel Universe, I mean the guy has literally done it all and seen it all and has experienced more tragedy than most, maybe any, of the Marvel U superheroes. He's a beyond valuable asset, why do you think he's on every team? The man is useful, not to mention extremely badass. He's taught many mutants throughout the years, running a school to teach em all away from the violence was a smart plan. Besides, aren't Kitty and Beast actually doing the running of the JG School? Works out.

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I wish I could have had Wolverine as a teacher.

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Would it really matter who ran the school? Secret/public, lax/stickler for the rules, the result is always the same; danger. Xavier was always considered the best teacher and headmaster... still didn't stop the multitude of villains stopping by for a visit.

In a normal world, Logan is a horrible choice, but in the world of Marvel, he's not a bad one. The only thing I can agree with is the varies teams he belongs to that keep him away and that's cause I don't like seeing him in 3 different series at once, but that's an issue with the Marvel Company.

I think the better question would be: Will the antics of the students, the constant danger at the school and Logan's skewed version of rules make for good reading? Or is it destined to get old and stale too quickly?

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To be able to teach, one needs a licence. And you have to really study about children's developmental stages and learning capabilities in order to really make an appropriate teaching strategy.

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- I understand that being a comic book being "realistic" is a view that will vary from reader to reader, but the premise of the book and almost all the characters in it make almost no sense whatsoever even taking this into account

- The writers seem to be going out of their way to make both Cyclops and Wolverines respective directions so inherently flawed (assuming so they can justify the inevitable unification sometime in the future) but instead of subtle and complex, its obvious and makes the characters look like complete morons.

- A writer can make whatever happens work out in the end because they in the end decide what works and what fails, but selling me on the idea that the school would not have been shut down, the kids left, or both by now is bs

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Hey wasn't Logan the next Charles Xavier in 2099? With a school and students and all that jazz? Is this possibly the very start of how 2099 came to be?

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I was really skeptical of this when I first read of the plans for the X-Men post-Schism, but I've come to not only agree with Wolverine's stance in Schism but also love this evolution for him as a character. It's great growth for him, and a perfectly logical evolution given his mentor-ship of young mutants (not wanting them to have to be like him) for years.

Good on ya Wolvie.

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I know the school was Wolverine's idea and all, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to be headmaster. Or anything, for that matter, other than having his name on the plaque under "Founded By."

If you ask me, Beast should be in charge.

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With all his ties with the avengers he can get alot of help with the school. I.E Spider-man teaching again! :D

Also is Psylocke still on the uncanny x force? or is she with cyclops's team now?

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@Bergquist: Psylocke is on both. She is on Wolverine's X-Force without Cyclops knowing while helping with Cyclops' team.

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@BewilderingBeing: @god_spawn:@ApatheticAvenger: Heh, I think that he's a horrible teacher and being on that whole "do as I say not as I do" drivel is absolute PiS, however, because it's Logan and he's popular it's cool! However, at least I can finally read a X-Men book without Wolverine. :)

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Where to begin..no, well where to end? I'll just say I don't swamp myself with the details because I know as well as anyone it is what it is. What it is is Wolverine sells, and X-Men sell, so add the two together and you have something that definitely sells. You can also throw a few characters in there who have lost steam in popularity or never had any and let them ride on those coat tails and get some promotion themselves. No different than having Wolverine on the cover of a comic to boost it's failing sales, and, it works. See: Wolverine And The X-Men cartoon. Did Wolverine really have any business leading the entire team/school, or there was no one board that was more qualified? Would he actually even have elected himself to that position? Wolverine get's passes on things too numerous to say them all as a character, from his appearances out of nowhere in other books, to being literally in two places at the same time, to being a flat out murderer and applicator of personal revenge worse than most killers in the Marvel Universe (seeing how Steve treated Punisher for this it seems illogical he would hold Wolverine so closely?), ect. Because, well he's Wolverine and he's very popular. Monstrously so. I think this is actually were the most dissonance with his character stems from. People notice little details, clearly, us comic fans notice every little detail, even the stuff that isn't there but possibly could be, and when it comes to Wolverines presence in a story things rarely add up. Even his own story rarely does due to having so many appearances and so many under different writers. Does Wolverine make a good teacher for a school? The question more would be to evaluate what is known, and well of his character and ask " would " he, if the situation had not been presented? I could really endlessly list why he wouldn't and say absolutely not. But, comic that sells sells, so here we are and a small crew of people tasked to justify every little reason why it works as best they can, and that's a job none of us would really be able to complete perfectly at the end of any given day. Really though, English lit? His English isn't even proper on that very page, much less ever is. I would think Hank, Kitty, or, I don't know, anyone would have been better for that task? Marvel is silly, but whatever holds the bottom line I suppose.

I agree completely! WatXM seem to be the dumping grounds for all the miscellaneous students and B-listers that didn't get enough notice in the prior titles. Marvel knew that if the book didn't put "Wolverine" within the title then the book wouldn't sell. When was the last time that anyone cared about Iceman, Rachel Grey, Beast, and the rest of the crew? I've a read a few issues and with inconsistent art, a questionable and forced premise, and even worse humor, I just find that this book reads more like a parody of the X-Men. If there are superheroes in a book then dang it, I want to read about those superheroes saving the day! I don't care about Harry Potter with mutants, however, at least Harry Potter grey up with it's reader base.

As for Captain America and Wolverine, I never thought about that until you said something but it does cause one to raise an eyebrow. Sad thing is that everyone doesn't seem to mind Wolverine literally getting away with bloody murder! I mean look at Beast nigh dismissive reaction to Wolverine STILL being a part of X-Force.Then Kitty breaking up with Colossus and going off with Logan. She then wants to act surprise when Colossus chooses to stay with Cyclops. Just seeing all the hypocrisy makes this title hard to stomach and I most certainly won't pour my money into this book.

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At least the book is entertaining, never thought I could enjoy Aaron after Schism.

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Honestly? I think wolverine, if we get real, is a narcissistic masochist, DP even said it funny enouygh, in the newest x-force, number 22

The guy doesnt really ever empathize, he is always ready to kill friend OR foe, and the only time he shows any emotion is in times when he's expected to. thats to me, why daken thinks hes a joke, because at least daken accepts he a psycho/sociopath, while Logan pretends to be a hero, but is really just hungry for blood and a rush.

ALSO...DID HE JUST KILL EVERY LOVE CHILD HE EVER HAD?! wow, I can tell he feels so remorsful from killing them.. by going intergalactic casino hopping.

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@nonfiction91: This was said by deadpool whose decapitated body Logan carried all over the Otherworld, that he supported him while he insulted him continuisly, without saying a word. The same deadpool who Logan defended when AoA Nightcrawler called him an idiot.
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@Bergquist: Psylocke is on both. She is on Wolverine's X-Force without Cyclops knowing while helping with Cyclops' team.

Sweet. But wouldnt that piss Logan off a little ? lol

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@Bergquist: I'm not sure he even knows. All I know is she is on X-Force and nothing more for him, but I could be wrong. I haven't been following X-force since issue 12 and none of Logan's story arc, but Cykes doesn't know she is either. Only Mags knows Betsy is on X-Force that is on Cyke's team since X-force was started up again without Cyclops knowing IIRC.

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@fireball11 said:

@nonfiction91: This was said by deadpool whose decapitated body Logan carried all over the Otherworld, that he supported him while he insulted him continuisly, without saying a word. The same deadpool who Logan defended when AoA Nightcrawler called him an idiot.

I'm sure Ted Bundy respected wayne gacy, and I think I just made the greatest analogy of Deadpool and Wolverine ever said

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@Bergquist: I'm not sure he even knows. All I know is she is on X-Force and nothing more for him, but I could be wrong. I haven't been following X-force since issue 12 and none of Logan's story arc, but Cykes doesn't know she is either. Only Mags knows Betsy is on X-Force that is on Cyke's team since X-force was started up again without Cyclops knowing IIRC.

Dude, pick up the back issues, its worth it. And do you mean he doesn't know she's on cyclops's team? not sure what you meant but he does know she stayed on utopia,

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@nonfiction91: Actually what i meant is that if Logan was the same person as you described him, then he wouldn't give a damn about Betsy and Fantomex for being captured anh he wouldn't risk his life against the Goat Monk for saving them. Also he would possibly abbandon Wade without hesitation in Otherworld and he wouldn't carry him at his back. That said i think that Remender writes the best deadpool in ages. I love him in UXF.
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@nonfiction91: Ah that's right, I forgot she stayed on Utopia in the one shot, thanks for the reminder.

@Bergquist: She's on Utopia but secretly works with X-Force when Wolverine calls unbeknownst to Cyke. NF reminded me.

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I think it all depends on how seriously you take "Wolverine and the X-Men." If you take this series seriously, then yeah, Wolverine would be an irresponsible teacher because of his past, but if you were just reading this series for fun and just think that it has nothing to do with the X-Men universe at the moment, then you might think that Wolverine is an okay teacher. 

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@fireball11 said:

@nonfiction91: Actually what i meant is that if Logan was the same person as you described him, then he wouldn't give a damn about Betsy and Fantomex for being captured anh he wouldn't risk his life against the Goat Monk for saving them. Also he would possibly abbandon Wade without hesitation in Otherworld and he wouldn't carry him at his back. That said i think that Remender writes the best deadpool in ages. I love him in UXF.

come on we know pretty well he's not really "risking his life" especially if that series with him and the virus maker, who's name I forget, is in the continuity. and thats cold logic, their assets to the team, she's a psychic and a skilled fighter, he's a two brained, skilled fighter, with a ship I'm pretty sure only he could pilot. No contest there though, Remender is a great writer.

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He's a good teacher but he has way too many enemies to run a public school effectively.

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the art kinda sucks

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i've got to honest i actually don't think wolverine is a jobber now. But bring on spider-man

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It is what it is. He's the best there is at what he does. Even if its teachin'.

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Greatest Teacher.

Wolverine never really changes, which is one of the things I love about him. He always has a reckless disregard for the rules, so he's a really fun character to read. I don't think I'd enjoy being taught by him, but I'm sure I'd learn a lot.

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Professor X and Hank McCoy are the only good mutants that can be good instructors.

(I wish Beast could change "at will" between human and beastly form.)

Sean Cassidy should not be dead.

Logan is a drill instructor that should train them like a hard coach towards the end.*

He might also be good as a history teacher. He lived thru most of it!

*(Only because Steve Rogers isn't a mutant... yet!)

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@Kairan1979:  I think that gambling is part of the life lessons that many times are more useful than the literature lessons. Besides the school has the perfect teacher for this: Prof Remy LeBeau
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just peeking

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I think Logan is not a good teacher or Wolverine, anymore....I mean, we are talking about a character that is "Suppose to be Dead", and in Hell!! I stopped collecting the X Men when they split the team.

Wolverine has been brought back from the dead more times then any other hero. Even in the DC world they have a new name for other Batman's!

So for me, Wolverine should eat dirt, six feet under, and Scott should leave the X Men, then their would be no split, and I would still be collecting the Title.

Even if Marvel thinks it was good (to make more money with 2 X Men books), their is tons of X Men fans not collecting anymore because of this. R.I.P. The true Wolverine

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I decided to stop reading this series; I get that it's fun for a lot of readers, but just not working for me. And I used to be a big Bachalo fan, but just don't like how ultra-stylized it can get. It's not him, though, it's me. I tend to like more realistic depictions and favored Jim Lee over Joe Madureira, and Alex Ross over Jim Lee.