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Off My Mind: When Main Characters Disappear from their Comic Books

Readers want to read the adventures of the title character but how long can a series last when the character goes missing?

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In comic books, characters often become absent. There's the typical stories where a character sacrifices their lives or is simply killed by another for some reason. When a series has an ensemble cast, one character biting the dust isn't that big of a deal. We've seen members of the X-Men, Avengers, Justice League and Fantastic Four die at some point (only to eventually return). Sometimes team members just want to take a vacation (like when Black Panther and Storm replaced Reed and Sue).

Team books don't really feel the impact of one of the main characters disappearing. When it's a solo book, it's a little different. There has been times when characters such as Batman, Superman or Spider-Man have gone missing in their own titles. These types of stories add a new twist and gives a distinct feel from the usual stories contained in the series. A great writer can make this happen and make it work wonderfully.

How long can the main character of a book not be featured? The star of the book is most likely the main reason why readers are picking up the title. Is there a limit on how many issues readers are willing to go with the main character being absent?

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When it's a death issue, there are the stories of mourning and acceptance to deal with. Provided the character has a strong supporting cast, there are interesting angles that can be depicted with the friends, family and even enemies of the fallen hero. The Death of Superman resulted in four new characters filling the void. Captain America's death gave room for Bucky Barnes to step up and show how worthy a character he truly was. Batman's death allowed Dick Grayson to fill his boots and evolve even further than he already had over the years. The death of Ultimate Spider-Man is giving a new character, Miles Morales, the chance to grow into a beloved character.

These stories all lasted for a few issues. The hero's death didn't just last for a story arc. Time went by and fans kept reading. There was a story to be told and the fact that the title character wasn't in the book served to attract more attention to it.

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It isn't always death that makes the main character go away. There's been a couple times when Spider-Man has been MIA. In one arc, Spider-Man was missing for about three issues. It turned out his costume was in tatters after a fight and he tried hitchhiking his way home from Virginia but got sidetracked in some wacky prison fiasco when picked up as a vagrant.

After the introduction of Ben Reilly and the Clone Saga, it appeared that Peter Parker and Mary Jane were going to sail off into the sunset. They actually moved to Oregon and Ben took over the Spider-Man titles. He even developed his own supporting cast and hangouts that gave the book a clear and distinct feel while still retaining the roots of who Spider-Man was supposed to be.

There was also when Tony Stark became too...unstable due to his alcohol intake. He couldn't quite handle running his company and be a superhero in the Iron Man armor. Eventually his friend, Rhodey, put on the armor and took his place while Tony dealt with his drinking problem.

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What about the introduction of a new character? In the current SWAMP THING series, we've been reading about the return of Alec Holland. It turned out he died and his remains and essence were used for Swamp Thing before. Now we were reading about the human without any powers and it took seven issues for "Swamp Thing" to even appear. With the way the story took place, it was definitely worth the wait.

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Finally there's THE WALKING DEAD. The focus has always been on the survivors of a zombie outbreak. We all know that Rick Grimes is the main character in the book. We've seen so many other big supporting characters die and some of us have speculated that Rick could possible die as well. The book could carry on without him despite the anger long time readers would have.

What it really comes down to is how the story is written. Some readers do follow the creative teams on titles. Most tend to focus on the characters. If you're reading a comic about Aquaman or Black Widow, you expect them to actually be in the comic.

A great writer can create a compelling story with the main character absent for a bit but eventually the readers will demand the character's presence in the comic. It's always interesting to see how long writers can keep the comic a success when trying to put out these types of stories. Mixing up the status quo and adding in mystery and suspense is a great thing to inject into a series but at the end of the day, we're all buying the book for the character whose name appears on the cover.

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I've seen these in my course of reading over the years growing up :

Ironman (stark) to ironman (rhodes)

Ironman (stark) to Warmachine (rhodes)

Green Hulk to Gray Hulk to Merger Hulk to Green Hulk to Red Hulk

Thor (Odinson) to Thor (Eric Masterson) Which was great btw.

Captain America (rogers) to Captain America (usagent)

Spiderman (Peter) to Spiderman (Ben)

Green Lantern (Hal) to Green Lantern (Kyle)

Batman (Bruce) to Batman (azeral) to Batman (bruce) to Batman (dick)

Robin (dick) to Robin (tim), all three versions, really.

Flash (Barry) to Flash (Wally), etc...

Venom (Eddie) to Venom (Mac) to Venom (Flash). btw, Flash as Venom is great.

Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) to Captain Marvel (energy woman) to Captain Marvel (Legacy) to captin Marvel (Pyrl) to ... Captain Marvel (Skrull) to ... maybe Captain Marvel (Hulkling) someday.

I COULD GO ON...but I wont. Geeze that is alot of times just off-hand the main character being replaced.

Sometimes the Stories are good or just different for a change of pace. Other times they are Great or better. Then again, other times the stories are horrible and the return cannot happen sooner than we hope.

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I think it depends on the book itself and how the fans will respond to it. Take for instance Bruce Wayne dying Batman fans knew he was gonna come back eventually since certian characters really do not die or stay dead. But the fans still bought Batman comics cuz we knew that (a) he would be back and (b) that some of us just love what he represents.

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The whole death storylines are one thing.  Dick as Batman was a natural evolvment cause he was supposed to take the mantle, Bucky as Cap would have worked better for me if he wasn't an established dead character for the last 40 years. 
Guess what I'm trying to say is   if the main character is missing for a reason, as long as the stories are intresting and you know why they are missing, it's mostly o.k.  
What got me (and what I thought this was about) is when for no reason  the  book is turned over to another character, Daredevil vol 2 #50-55 iirc where Echo had the spotlight comes to mind.

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That's kind like the New Coca Cola strategy, a fresh new take is pretty cool, but in the end back to basics is much much better.

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It depends on the writing of how interesting they can keep the story going.
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@mewmdude77 said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

@mewmdude77: May be why hes hated

that's a dumb reason in my opinion

Well, people are dumb

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As long as there is a ''Natural'' progression in the story, like Dick becoming Batman after Bruce, I am fine with the absent main guys. It is hard for many of us to leave that character behind and move on to accept a new one, as with many things, but if a great story can pull that off, it can make things all the better.

Usual I enjoy the ''Main character absent'' periods from time to time because the focus in on the support cast and their developement...also the mystery of ''Where is the Main character ? ''....So if you can pull it off with a strong story, payoff would be great ( like Bruce's ''death'' after Final Crysis'' and Dick taking his place along with Damien ) but if you have a long term plan, try not to drag on too much. Some gambles work, some don't and you can't really blame people for wanting to see the chracter they bought the comic for.

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Shawn writes:

During Marvel's 25th anniversary I remember Spider-Man missing from a few comics only to appear as Peter Parker locked away in some prison. I think this was my first experience with a missing character in a story arc (aside from She-Hulk replacing Thing in The Fantastic Four) and I hated it. I didn't buy Spider-Man comics to read about other characters who weren't good enough for comics of their own. I wanted Spidey for his heroics and witty banter, but instead I got second-rate Silver Sable and the dry-as-toast Doctor Strange.

Anymore, DC and Marvel are spread so thin with multiverses, future/past characters and characters with siblings that missing characters and the death of characters has become irrelevant. Has a hero died or disappeared? Just replace him with a nephew, sibling or sidekick. Don't like the replacement? Read about the hero in Earth 2 or the Ultimate story arc. Still dissatisfied? Wait until the parallel universes converge or the hero is brought back to life.

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@SupremeHyperion said:

If it's written right I don't see why you couldn't make it last. I loved when they switched the Incredible Hulk book to Incredible Herc, but that might be a little different?

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@Jnr6Lil said:

@mewmdude77: May be why hes hated

that's a dumb reason in my opinion

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@mewmdude77: May be why hes hated

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@Jnr6Lil said:

@mewmdude77: Maybe because he's black

He's half black, half Hispanic, and I thought I heard he's gay too. but it doesn't matter what he looks like,

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@mewmdude77: Maybe because he's black

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It's a horse a piece but ultimately a good move in the end. It's negative side obviously is that the " original/classic " being on hiatus creates a reader/fan backlash. I can cite Spider-man being replaced by Scarlet Spider taking the hardest hit there, noting that they quickly altered Ben's persona from Scarlet into Spider-man (though really I think the outrage came with the now retraced revelation that Peter Parker was not the real article, meaning the possibility was that he wouldn't return at some point.). Though with less prolific books it doesn't always generate that heat, like Savage Dragon for example. Why it ultimately works of course is that not only does the replacement character gain a larger readership themselves, but the celebrated return of the original of course which renews appreciation for the character, ei; we take what we have for granted until it's gone. It's an expansive move at the end of the day either way.

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@Cosmic_Hobo said:

Whereas the return of ultimate Peter Parker would probably make me stop me reading the book.He was a great character, now he'd gone and Miles is a great character. The lack of death having any meaning is really ruing comics for me lately. I mean, I think EVERY Avenger that died during disassembled is back from the dead now? Meh. So as much as I love ultimate Parker, I hope he stays in the ground

I agree 100%. I don't know why people hate the new Ultimate Spider-man. I would really hate it if Peter came back to life, because in the Ultimate Universe, that's practically the one place in comics where people stay dead permantently. I wish the dead would stay dead in the main universes more often. Truthfully, the only people who stay dead in the regular comic universes are: Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, Captain Stacy, Bruce Wayne's parents, Bruce Banner's father, and maybe one or two more, but I wish it were more. It would make the deaths mean more. Like when Johnny gave his life, I wanted him to stay dead for a least a couple of years to make it meaningful, but he's back in less than a year. Kraven the Hunter's death in Kraven's Last Hunt was the best ending for that masterpiece story, but then they screwed it up by bringing him back in Grim Hunt, and not having him do anything since. Or when Bucky Barnes died a long time ago, and was thought he would never come back, but someone decided in the 2000's that it would be better to have him be alive, but as a Soviet sleeper agent?!?! stupid no deaths.

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@SupremeHyperion said:

If it's written right I don't see why you couldn't make it last. I loved when they switched the Incredible Hulk book to Incredible Herc, but that might be a little different?

I agree

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One main death that was not written in this topic was the death of Barry Allen the 2nd Flash. With Barry's death dawned the era of Wally West who became a favorite and idol to many fans. Wally went from being Kid Flash to automatically having to fill his Uncles shoes. It is so sad to see Wally fade out of the DC Universe so quickly with Barry's return but Barry's death lasted about 20 years (some comic readers had no idea he existed). Sometimes one character must leave for a time being, wither it be short period or long period of time, so that another character can make a name for themselves.

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@GiantsizeManThing said:

@Danial79 said:

I'm only fairly new to comics, so I've never witnessed this myself, but I imagine that if I was reading a series which was lacking the titular character, I'd give it about one arc (6 issues) before moving on.

Never witnessed it, what about moon knight's latest series? Too busy trying to be spider-man and wolverine instead of moon knight.

Ha! Good call. It's true, the Moon Knight I know was completely absent from that latest series :P

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Ever since Peter died, the Ultimate universe just hasn't been the same and I dropped The Ultimates just a few issues into their new run. Didn't really bother with the new Ultimate Spider-Man book. I really wanted to see Ultimate Pete grow up and go to college and see what life had in store for him then, but with his abrupt death and almost instantaneous replacement, I'm just completely turned off (and if they brought him back as a villain, I'd be even more so. It seems as if in this new Ultimate 'verse, if you're ridiculously smart and young, you either die or become a villain like Reed Richards). Don't really have any interest in the new Ultimate X-Men book, either. At this point, I think the only thing that could really bring me back to the Ultimate universe is if they do something REALLY big with Ultimate Cap (my second favorite character in the Ultimate 'verse whom they've done practically NOTHING with so far), like maybe getting Mark Millar to write a solo series for him or something (but with him concentrating on all his creator-owned stuff then immediately selling them off to Hollywood, that doesn't seem incredibly likely).

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It all depends on a good story. Plus, it's obvious that these titular heroes will be coming back soon.

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@Danial79 said:

I'm only fairly new to comics, so I've never witnessed this myself, but I imagine that if I was reading a series which was lacking the titular character, I'd give it about one arc (6 issues) before moving on.

Never witnessed it, what about moon knight's latest series? Too busy trying to be spider-man and wolverine instead of moon knight.

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@JonesDeini said:

@twisted17 said:

Replacement characters are a great read, but its only acceptable to norms if the characters are brought in after a natural progression. For example: Dick Grayson becoming Batman was inevitable and I wouldn't mind if it became permanent. Compare that to when Jean-Paul Valley donned the cowl: it was groovy at first but then became bad and then the big payoff with Bruce returning made everyone happy.

Characters with legacies should eventually progress. Wally West became the best Flash after Barry's 'death'. An exception to the above rule was Kyle Rayner who, a total unknown, became THE Green Lantern. I guess it does come down to execution & writing too.

Totally agree, folk. For me I'll read for as long as the stories remain compelling. For me it does work better when a legacy character ascends to a predestined role. But a totally new character can win me over if written well, like Kyle. Right now a lot of fans are unhappy with Bulletproof filling Mark's role in Invincible right now, but I for one look forward to what Kirkman can do there.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/allhailme/heir-to-the-throne-a-look-at-legacy-characters-in-comics/87-75919/

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Great article G-Man! I was hoping that there would be an article on this! :D

Usually, I look at it as to how it depends on how the character's replacement is written. If say either Colossus or Wolverine is replaced by someone else, but that person's replacement is written so well, then I would be satisfied with the character's replacement. However, I will start to miss to the original character who died because I grew up with that character, like even though Superman or Batman are replaced by someone else, I will always think of Clark Kent being Superman and Bruce Wayne being Batman because they were the ones who started the superhero franchise of the most beloved characters in comics.

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@twisted17 said:

Replacement characters are a great read, but its only acceptable to norms if the characters are brought in after a natural progression. For example: Dick Grayson becoming Batman was inevitable and I wouldn't mind if it became permanent. Compare that to when Jean-Paul Valley donned the cowl: it was groovy at first but then became bad and then the big payoff with Bruce returning made everyone happy.

Characters with legacies should eventually progress. Wally West became the best Flash after Barry's 'death'. An exception to the above rule was Kyle Rayner who, a total unknown, became THE Green Lantern. I guess it does come down to execution & writing too.

Totally agree, folk. For me I'll read for as long as the stories remain compelling. For me it does work better when a legacy character ascends to a predestined role. But a totally new character can win me over if written well, like Kyle. Right now a lot of fans are unhappy with Bulletproof filling Mark's role in Invincible right now, but I for one look forward to what Kirkman can do there.

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@db8coach said:

I don't know about anyone else, but I liked Wally West as the Flash, I liked Kyle Rayner as Green Lantern, I liked Dick Grayson as Batman, I liked Ben Riley as Spider-Man. Each character gave the writers new ground that they could cover.

Agreed.

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I must be the only reader who wants ACTUAL progression in comic books

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During New Krypton, the SUPERMAN comic starred Mon-El and ACTION COMICS starred Nightwing and Flamebird.

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Not going far, right know I like Flash Thompson as the new Venom. He's crippled, full of contradictions but trying to do the right thing... he's not the jock he used to be and that's great; I didn't think I could possibly be interested in the character. I know someday he'll have to give up being Venom, but the series are awesome so far.

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@X35 said:

Without a doubt one of the best ones:

Years later, Patriot came

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Without a doubt one of the best ones:

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Alec Hollad HAD powers before he became Swamp Thing in #7. And technically there was A Swamp Thing in the second issue.

@Eyz said:

I always loved these sort of twists. Also, letting a secondary character of a villain held the title can only be good in the long run, be it to develop or analyze another character or a different point of view.

Lex Luthor's run in Action Comics come to mind.

OH MY GOD YES.

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The important thing to note is that when they go missing, you know that they'll come back better than ever, more powerful and ready to kick ASS

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@HoFT013: Well its gonna be a long wait for you haha. I actually really enjoyed that arc personally, and I feel as though it was necessary for the way the universe is developing. These are dark days in the Ultimate series. Peter's death was demoralizing for a large collection of the hero community. He died a heroic death that should never have happened and they are aware of it, especially Fury and Cap. He had to die and needs to stay dead for the sake of the story. The only way I can see him returning, is if its in a way that makes him a threat.

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@Cosmic_Hobo said:

Whereas the return of ultimate Peter Parker would probably make me stop me reading the book.He was a great character, now he'd gone and Miles is a great character. The lack of death having any meaning is really ruing comics for me lately. I mean, I think EVERY Avenger that died during disassembled is back from the dead now? Meh. So as much as I love ultimate Parker, I hope he stays in the ground

Yeah,as much as I wished Dick stayed as Batman with Damian, I know he wasn't as good as him, but Bruce is a b*tch with Damian

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I jumped back on the Spawn bandwagon 4 or 5 issues ago, and I have yet to actually see Spawn except for on the cover. It has still managed to hold my interest, but hopefully it will crescendo into a Spawn reveal soon.

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@Phaedrusgr said:

Stories full of cliches. When the hero's gone and somebody else is in his shoes, it means only one thing. I can't handle the hero, I have no ideas about him, so let's kill him, disappear him, evaporate him, make him invisible, for another run full of cliches. Oh, where is he? Will he come back? Oh, the new Captain - Batspider is better than the old one...blah blah blah... I loved Superman's fall! My eyes can't see Batman's broken body defeated by Bane (it's painful for my SOUL), but the arc was amazing and honestly full of ideas! Nowadays, writers say "what should we do"? Oh, I have an idea! Let's send the hero away for a while! BEEN DONE!!! STOP IT!

You are so full of win...

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Adds more to the story, builds other characters

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I don't know about anyone else, but I liked Wally West as the Flash, I liked Kyle Rayner as Green Lantern, I liked Dick Grayson as Batman, I liked Ben Riley as Spider-Man. Each character gave the writers new ground that they could cover.

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Actually,having Superman off Action and a ten issue run featuring Luthor is the only time I signed up for the book.Luthor is cool,but Superman post New Krypton is boring

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@doordoor123: @doordoor123 said:

@HoFT013 said:

Let's not forget Ultimate Peter Parker. His "death" has prompted me to stop reading the book until he comes back.

I also stopped reading it after he died. But that was only because the Ultimate Universe isn't what it once was and I foresee its downfall within the next three years or so. When Peter died, it gave me a reason to stop reading.

KIlling characters is a great way to take a book off of the pull list :D

But I do actually LIKE when characters die because I am a fan of progression or something new and different that I haven't seen before.

You get me! But, yeah. Ultimate is the -only- Marvel I read, and I think it's great, except for Spider-Man. I mean, Magneto died pretty recently, but he's back again as the voice of God. Oh. Spoiler alert.

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@HoFT013 said:

Let's not forget Ultimate Peter Parker. His "death" has prompted me to stop reading the book until he comes back.

I also stopped reading it after he died. But that was only because the Ultimate Universe isn't what it once was and I foresee its downfall within the next three years or so. When Peter died, it gave me a reason to stop reading.

KIlling characters is a great way to take a book off of the pull list :D

But I do actually LIKE when characters die because I am a fan of progression or something new and different that I haven't seen before.

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@doordoor123 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

they come back right away

Thats if you're reading Marvel.

oh, thanks for reminding me. I'm talking about marvel Comics indeed.

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Captain America, Batman, and Superman are the best examples, as stated above, of another character filling in and the book still works.

In fact, I may even say I liked Captain America a bit better (at least for 12 issues) with Bucky in the costume. It added so much more to the book.

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@jhazzroucher said:

they come back right away

Thats if you're reading Marvel.

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Far too overused.

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this subject being brought up at the same time i've begun reading the renumbering of the Amazing Spider-Man is creepily coincidental.

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I'm only fairly new to comics, so I've never witnessed this myself, but I imagine that if I was reading a series which was lacking the titular character, I'd give it about one arc (6 issues) before moving on.

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I must be the stick in the mud here. I really hate that sort of change. I'm a longtime Captain America fan and while at first the Bucky Barnes event was interesting and yes, fun to read, it eventually started to get to me and I was even considering cancelling the book for the first time in years. Not to say it was bad writing, just that for me, I only think of one character wearing their mantles. Dick Grayson as Batman seemed wrong considering how many years he fought to escape the shadow of the bat. It can be a bit fun though, Hickman put Spider-man in place of Human Torch in FF which was an interesting take but again, us foggies want the original line-up. My point being, it works for a while but in the end the character should come back and at least make it important that they left, make it relevant.

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I don't think it is fair to compare Batman or Captain America to this concept...The books were called "Batman" or "Captain America"...not "Bruce Wayne" and "Steve Rogers". The books could be looked at more as books about the mantle of The Batman vigilante and the symbol of freedom and hope Captain America. Different people can fill those roles but I wouldn't say the characters are missing from the books.

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@Cosmic_Hobo said:

Whereas the return of ultimate Peter Parker would probably make me stop me reading the book.He was a great character, now he'd gone and Miles is a great character. The lack of death having any meaning is really ruing comics for me lately. I mean, I think EVERY Avenger that died during disassembled is back from the dead now? Meh. So as much as I love ultimate Parker, I hope he stays in the ground

Welcome to comic books, haha. But while I'm not doubting that Miles might be a great character, I cannot connect with him. At all. I suppose it might be because he wasn't an already established character in the universe that I have had time to get to know before he took over the Spidey mantle. When Dick became Batman, I was ecstatic. But then again, I believe it's because Dick was an established character that I could identify with.

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