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Off My Mind: What Will The Return of Carnage Bring?

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Who will be Carnage's new host? Will there be a host?

Next month we're going to see the return of Carnage. I have to admit, I wasn't the biggest Carnage fan when he first debuted. This was when Venom was at his popularity and it seemed the decision was to make Venom...not so evil. Carnage, along with his host, Cletus Kasady was pure evil. He was simply a serial killer and given the power of a symbiote, there was no restrictions on what he would do. 
 
We know that during the break out at the Raft in the first New Avengers series, Sentry took Carnage into space and ripped him in half. There is some question as to whether or not Cletus was inside Carnage at the time. 
 
From Marvel's solicits, Cletus will not be the host for Carnage as the symbiote targets Spider-Man and Iron Man. We knew it was a matter of time until Carnage returned from the dead. As much as I didn't like Carnage, I can't say I'm exactly thrilled with the idea of 'it' having a new host. 
 == TEASER == 
The same could be said for Venom. I've always preferred Eddie Brock as Venom, even if he went a little soft. It goes back to perhaps trying to make him a more marketable character. Someone that threatens to "eat your brains" can't really be considered a hero.   
 
What will a new host mean for Carnage? There was apparently a rumor that the host would be female this time. We've already seen a female symbiote and the images for the covers of the first two issues don't suggest a female host.  
 
What kind of host could we expect once the suit finally finds one? Even though I wasn't a fan of Cletus, I do feel he should remain as Carnage. The idea of Carnage was a deadly symbiote. I'd hate to see some other random "killer" get bonded with Carnage and start things up again.  
 
The fact that Zeb Wells is writing the series gives me some hope. I would like to think that there is a nice game plan being set in motion and there's a reason that now is the time for the return of Carnage. It should be interesting to see what happens in this five issue mini series. Will we see Mac Gargan as Venom and Eddie Brock as Anti-Venom show up? Will we see a new host for Carnage? I'm really hoping this mini series changes how I feel about Carnage. I'm actually looking forward to it.
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Posted by J1ml33

well if it does not bring back the old 90s thing and do something interesting  with the character  , but then again we can only wait and see.

Posted by fesak
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Edited by KasadyCarnage

If it's a female I'll be sad ='(... because... Carnage isn' t exactly a feminane name... also CLETUS IS CARNAGE! People need to learn that. He will ALWAYS be the true Carnage and should STAY Carnage
Posted by Aspenite

I won´t pick up this series because I think it´s stupid to bring back Carnage. I´m not a fan at all.

Edited by spider-man 2996

I'm on the side lines about this don't know but I just don't have the money:(
Posted by ImperiousRix

Maximum Carnage 2: The Re-Carnage-ing. 
In all seriousness, Carnage was one of my favorite villains as a kid.  He never had much substance, but he's just so crazy and cool-looking that's it's impossible to hate him.  I'll definitely be reading his return.

Posted by NeoMantis
@fesak said:
" Never was a big fan of Carnage, but Carnage: Mindbomb was awesome. "
What made Mindbomb so interesting was the insight into the psyche of Cletus Kasady. I'd rather see that explored further than having a new host for the symbiote but I'm keeping an open mind. I personally never had a problem with Gargan as Venom so maybe this will turn out for the better.
Posted by KasadyCarnage
@Aspenite said:
"I won´t pick up this series because I think it´s stupid to bring back Carnage. I´m not a fan at all. "

And that is why you fail, sir.
Posted by DH69

its funny a week before they announced carnage returning with a female host. i was thinking, it would be nice to have a female venom for awhile, since gargan is gonna be runnin around as the scorpian again

Posted by Nerx

I hope they ramp up the bodycount because carnage needs his massacre

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

Carnage sucks. The only people I know that like Carnage are people who have never read comic books.
Posted by darkrider

the new carnage is  Ana Kravinoff

Posted by johnnie619

cant wait
Posted by REDPride88

Well, I hope that through this series, we will see Venom jump in and kick some Carnage butt. Also some anti-venom butt. It brings a possible opportunity to the feet of Eddie Brock, I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that, True Venom fans prefer Brock as Venom. So maybe there is a chance that Mac Gargan will get kicked and Brock will become Venom again and lose the Anti-Venom suite. So it's a possibility that Hard Core Venom fans can dwell on for now. I loved Maximum Carnage growing up, it was amazing, so I will be picking this up. VENOM RULES!!!!

Posted by fesak

 I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that, True Venom fans prefer Gargan as Venom.

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Posted by Dr. Detfink

You'd think in Brand New Day, Marvel would just END the symbiote silliness. Venom became a joke once they went with the tongue and teeth. I thought he was waaaay creepier when he barely had any facial features.  Now you have Venom II, Anti-Venom, Carnage, and some other guy...
 
Way to beat someone over the head.

Posted by tigerex78

This could be interesting or this could really bomb.  Carnage is a one dimensional character maybe they can add some depth to the character.  Perhaps that is why they are giving the symbiote a new host. 

Edited by ckal

 

Will we see Mac Gargan as Venom and Eddie Brock as Anti-Venom show up?  

 
Oh I bet you we will!
 
Meh. That's kind of how I feel about this. To bring him back with a completely random host wouldn't make much sense unless it somehow ended back with Cletus or had some effect on Marvel IMO.
 
I'll probably still check it out though.
Posted by Emerald Dragonfly

STOP GETTING CHARACTERS BACK, STOP REBORNING/RESPAWNING/RECONSTRUCTING/CLONING THEM ETC. BECAUSE THIS IS STUPID

Posted by Serpent

I disliked Carnage too, he was just so.. 90's.

Posted by weapon154

Oh jeeze... Don't you guys remember? He was a psychopathic killer and now he's coming back!!!    

Posted by aouric
@NeoMantis: I totally agree with you NeoMantis, they should keep Kassdy and reveal a deeper insight to his character, there's always an unusual childhood past to every psycho villain.
Posted by LordCmdrStryker

God I hope we don't see Anti-Venom again.  That was really stupid.

Posted by zombietag

its not a rumor about carnage being female, they said it at SDCC

Edited by InnerVenom123

It's not a rumor, the writer said so in an interview.      
 
@lordcmdrstryker said:

"God I hope we don't see Anti-Venom again.  That was really stupid. "

 
No, Gargan is really stupid. Renewing Eddie Brock and actually trying to write him well instead of using him to earn cheap 12 year old cash is anything but stupid. >_>
 

Posted by Ry Fryy

Carnage is and always will be awesome.

Edited by InnerVenom123
@fesak said:

" I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that, True Venom fans prefer Gargan as Venom. "


WTF? The idiot lapdog who jobbers constantly? "True" Venom fans know the one and only Venom is Eddie Brock!
Posted by DEGRAAF
@fesak:
@G-Man:

I thought Mac Gargen went back to being scorpion or rhino or whatever. 
 
Also i hear it will be a female host but while covered in the symbiote, will look like a male since the carnage symbiote is male. It will help throw heros off the trail of who the host is. They also say the symbiote will be different and more matured now. This is all just hear say tho
Posted by turoksonofstone
@InnerVenom123 said:
" @fesak said:

" I know I speak for a lot of people when I say that, True Venom fans prefer Gargan as Venom. "

WTF? The idiot lapdog who jobbers constantly? "True" Venom fans know the one and only Venom is Eddie Brock! "
Posted by CRACKERMAN92

Its not that i hate carnage......Is that i dont care

Edited by InnerVenom123
@DEGRAAF said:

"@fesak: @G-Man: I thought Mac Gargen went back to being scorpion or rhino or whatever.  Also i hear it will be a female host but while covered in the symbiote, will look like a male since the carnage symbiote is male. It will help throw heros off the trail of who the host is. They also say the symbiote will be different and more matured now. This is all just hear say tho "


Gargan was Scorpion, and he WILL be going back (as solicits show)... he just hasn't yet.
Edited by DMC

Never read a lot of Carnage in the comics (1 issue I believe) so I'll check out the first issue at least.

Posted by Metatron_Da_Don
@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:
" Carnage sucks. The only people I know that like Carnage are people who have never read comic books. "
pretty Snobbish thing to say. Anyway, this would be a great opportunity to make him more new millenium character study of a psychopath. 
 
I'm talking more methodical and covert, sort of like a runaway superhero who kills instead and has vigilantes hunting him. Basically a superhero (eg Spider-Man) story in reverse, from the eyes of the psycho-killer. 
Posted by Metatron_Da_Don

Kasady shouldn't be 1-dimensional, his reasons of killing can be deep-rooted in his childhood like Mr. Freeze and also in Carnage: Mindbomb his powers could: should be explored.
 
If he can coerce someone to embrace Chaos, what if he was a cloaked figure in the night, covertly planting spores of chaos in peoples heads only to activate the seeds later and have those people kill in his place. Only to watch for kicks. 
 
Carnage could potentially make an army of people who think just like him ala the Hood.

Posted by MuscularThighs

I'd be much more excited if it was the return of Don Karnage. 
 

Posted by darkwolverineUSMC
@Metatron_Da_Don said:
" @JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:
" Carnage sucks. The only people I know that like Carnage are people who have never read comic books. "
pretty Snobbish thing to say. Anyway, this would be a great opportunity to make him more new millenium character study of a psychopath.   I'm talking more methodical and covert, sort of like a runaway superhero who kills instead and has vigilantes hunting him. Basically a superhero (eg Spider-Man) story in reverse, from the eyes of the psycho-killer.  "

Agreed. I liked Carnage. He was everything a real villian was supposed to be. Who the hell cares if you rule the world, every thing burns sooner or later, so why not start the flame a little sooner. Besides, Maximum Carnage was one of my favorite Spider-man arcs, I own all 14 parts. Oh yeah, what series is the new Carnage premeiring in? Any clues?
Posted by Eyz

I would prefer seeing Toxin (from a 2000s miniseries) come back!
That was an interesting and original take on the whole symbiotes. (a cop bonded with a symbiote and trying to control it and be a superhero)

Posted by ReverseNegative

Artwork is good, at least. It's Clayton Crain, isn't it?

Posted by sarahsdad
@MuscularThighs: YES ! Sweet. :)
Posted by InnerVenom123
@ReverseNegative said:
"Artwork is good, at least. It's Clayton Crain, isn't it? "

Yup. 
 
@Eyz said:
"I would prefer seeing Toxin (from a 2000s miniseries) come back! That was an interesting and original take on the whole symbiotes. (a cop bonded with a symbiote and trying to control it and be a superhero)"

Agreed, not to say that I don't want Carnage back, but I would have liked for Toxin to have come back way earlier. (Avengers: Initiative). 
 
Posted by Power NeXus

He got ripped in half. 
 
 
 
 
In space. 
 
 
 
 
 
How the f**k do you come back from that?
Posted by MTHarman

Can't tell whats more blood thirsty. 
Carnage or the angry comicvine fans on this topic. 
 
I prefer seeing Spiderman go against a pack of violent, monsterous, Comicvine commentators. That would be more interesting than seeing the return of one of my favorite childhood villains.
Posted by MTHarman
@Power NeXus:
Same way how Michael Myers came back from having his head chopped off probably. Cletus was never inside Carnage, Marvel can pull a stunt like that.
Posted by InnerVenom123
@Power NeXus said:
"He got ripped in half.     In space.      How the f**k do you come back from that? "

I'd think the symbiote left Cletus's body and attached to some meteor/in orbit object coming down to Earth. Cletus dies, it finds new host, ta-da!
Posted by InnerVenom123
@MTHarman said:
"@Power NeXus: Same way how Michael Myers came back from having his head chopped off probably. Cletus was never inside Carnage, Marvel can pull a stunt like that. "

They would have if they wanted Cletus back, but they don't.
Posted by suuperman

I think that even with a new host Kletus still lives on. The symbiote will still have his serial killer instincts and probably impression those onto its new host. I for one am curious to see how the new host handles it. Imagine being a reasonably good guy with a new found uncontrollable urge to kill. The possibilities story wise are much more interesting then just psycho gets a super weapon.

Posted by SUPER-MAN 23

I like the artwork, and Zeb Wells Writing this story gives me a little bit more confidence in his new series.  
 

Posted by leokearon

@G-Man:
   Will we see a new host for Carnage?     
 
Marvel have already mentioned that there will be a new host 
 
Personally I hope they bring carnage back to his roots of actually killing people, not basing it on hte 60's Spider-man cartoon.

Posted by Undeadpool

Carnage is one of hte worst things to come out of the 90s, the worst decade for comic books. This makes Carnage quite possibly the worst recurring villain in comic books. It's SO depressing that Marvel thinks they need to make the fanboys happy and can never introduce a new character.

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