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Off My Mind: What Does The Cancellation Of HEROES Mean?

Can superhero shows work on mainstream networks?

Here's something that may or may not surprise you, I wasn't the biggest fan of the television show Heroes. You would think given that I spend the majority of my day knee deep in superheroes and comic books that I would absolutely love the show, right? That wasn't the case. Don't get me wrong. I did like the show. Emphasis on the past tense. I enjoyed it. It was fun. I think you'll agree, something went wrong. The show felt like it had so much potential but it just fizzled out. I've mentioned on our podcast before that I still haven't watched this entire past season. I watched probably the first 4 or 5 episodes and the rest are still on my DVR (I will still watch them one day). Now that the show is canceled, what does that mean for superheroes on television?
 
While I'm sure that some may have cheered when the news of the show's cancellation was made but I wonder if this could be a bad thing. Would the fact that the show stopped working affect the decision of TV executives in the future? Someone could have a really great idea for a superhero show and networks might be hesitant to go forward with it. Then again, NBC has announced their new superhero-ish show, The Cape. I would assume that this show was given the greenlight before Heroes was canceled. We'll have to see how much promotion and money NBC puts into the show.
 
The fact that Heroes was canceled doesn't mean that comic book ideas won't work on television. Smallville will be going for its tenth season in the Fall. Perhaps Heroes was too ambitious and tried doing too much in the beginning. And while it might not be in the superhero genre, Human Target has also been renewed for a second season. With the success of Smallville and superhero movies (look at how Iron Man 2 is doing), I think it's safe to say that people do want to see heroes on television, just maybe not the show HEROES.
 
Perhaps we should bow our heads for a moment and say goodbye to Sylar, HRG, Hiro, Peter Petrelli, Claire Bennet and the rest (actually, I'm not even sure if they've survived this last season). I am a little bummed the show is over. I would've liked the show to continue to be a success. I hope this won't prevent any kick ass future shows of this genre. TV execs and writers should learn from what went wrong rather than rule out any future shows dealing with superheroes.
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Posted by warpedzappa

I would like to see a super hero show on hbo. 
 
Something high budget and great quality.  

Posted by EdwardWindsor
@G-Man:  i agree , althought iam sad to see the end of sylar since he was possibly the most bad ass tv villian 've seen for quite awhile
Posted by Shanana

I stopped watching Heroes after season 3, because it seemed like every other week, a Villain was a Hero, and a Hero was a Villain; it just became too confusing to follow after a while. I personally would like to see a superhero show that was more so like Hancock. Where the main character or characters do pretty much what they want to.  More-so the comedy approach.

Posted by G-Man
@Sha: They should've let the heroes be heroes and the villains be villains.
Posted by Shanana

Exactly.

Posted by Supreme Marvel

Season 1 was awesome
Season 2 not too bad
Season 3 WTF?
Season 4 Started to gain feet again
 
In order of good to bad

  • Season 1 Great
  • Season 2 Good
  • Season 4 Okay
  • Season 3 Awful
Posted by Scylla

Season 1 was AWESOME
Season 2 was Pretty Good
Season 3 pt. 1 - okay
                  pt. 2 - no comment >.>
 
 Season 4 - Not too bad

Posted by NightFang
@warpedzappa said:
" I would like to see a super hero show on HBO.  Something high budget and great quality. "
             That would be a dream come true. 
Posted by Supreme Marvel
  1. The should have gave Peter his original power back.
  2. Writers chickened out
 
Characters I liked
  • Peter
  • HRG
  • Hiro
  • Ando
  • Sylar
 
That's it. Kill the rest off for all I care.
Posted by Azareus

I hate this show, because It startes the seasons with a lot of mistery and great epic WTF moments. Aaaaaaaaand It always have to disappoint me. There is a lot of subplot going on, and It forgets the mainplot wich was always great and misterious. 
And it's a shame because there is some interesting characters in the show. Like Syler. And... and... and... Noah Benett is great too, and.... Hiro (but he is totally useless, and stupid) Thats all... but these few characters could save the show by good writing.... but there wasn't. There was some underrated characters, like wireless, she could have been great  for the main role. 
So yeah... few enjoyable characters, sh*tty storyline, interesting plot, that choked by the subplots.
That was the show for me.

Posted by blaakmawf

I watched the first season and quit. That show wasn't all that great.

Edited by doordoor123

NBC actually had the idea of cancelling Heroes for a while now. They just did it "officially", I thought it would run one more season but i guess not. Im sure The Cape was on their desk and NBC realized that Heroes ratings were declining. So why not drop Heroes and try to direct those fans to a new superhero show.
What superhero shows need is a huge budget. Its really hard to make a show about superheroes without a bigger budget than television shows use. I give it 20 to 30 years before were going to see a really "successful"superhero show. When i say successful, i mean higher budgeted shows or cheaper equipment. The equipment in the entertainment industry take a while to progress because its all top of the line. 
So all in all i agree to disagree. I think mistakes are made and i think writers/directors should learn from them, but i also think people shouldnt expect too much from superhero movies nowadays.
 

Posted by warlock360
Posted by salarymanjam

In a nutshell, this cancellation means that all future superhero dramas have a chance on TV.
 
It may be sad that something as close as to what we read every week as this didn't stand the test of our current TV industry's conditions, it still means there is hope for the future.
 
Thank you Heroes, I am glad that you were around.

Posted by warlock360
@salarymanjam: There have been superhero dramas on tv before, Mutant X (think that was the title?) and others.
Posted by nick_clark

 It's a shame. I hope that they make the tv movie. In only one objetive sense, the writers have what they deserve, the treatment to the characters was horrible, dull storyline, that the plot turn around Sylar, Sylar and more Slyar.... Are many things...
 
I hope they bring heroes back on GN, GN are awesome.
 
PS: Niki/Jessica Sanders ROCKS!
 

Posted by salarymanjam
@Voidheart: that's true. No doubt, and there have been straight up superhero dramas named after their characters. I have watched them although I will admit I have never watched Mutant X.
 
However, did it really reach the heights of Heroes? Did it have the same production value and quality of writing? Did it satisfy comic book fans as much as the other ones? I believe one of the strong points of this drama, in regards to both satisfying the network, creative staff and the fans was that it was just enough removed from any comic brand or labels. It gave them the producers freedom to make it mainstream, and the non-comic book fans to emotionally invest in characters that normally get called "freaks".
 
What do you think?
Posted by NXH

Season 1 was AMAZING!! 
Season 2 was good.  
Season 3 (1st half) was okay.
Season 3 (2nd half) and Season 4 was absolutly terrible!  :/

Posted by Nocturne21

I thought season 4 was a significant improvement over the crap in season 2 and 3. I think if they had one more season the creators might have been able to redeem themselves a bit, but I don't think they'd have ever gotten back to the level of season 1. That season was just too awesome to be topped.

Posted by Mbecks14

The first season was just awesome! But then they lost it, season 2 was decent at best but it really just lost its way.

Posted by pip

heros more like zeros 
that show was always awful

Posted by Tainted-Cell

I liked the show from the beginning when I started watching. I gave it a lot of patience and it did present some exciting episodes with interesting (if not completely unoriginal) ideas taken (mostly) from X-Men comics. I loved comparing Niki to Jean Grey/Hulk, DL to Kitty, Hiro to Magik, Peter to Rogue (ok maybe not so much there), Sylar to Legion, and Nathan to Angel. And the ending of the second season was indeed, pretty cool. But after that, I felt it was nicely wrapped up. I wasn't interested in any future seasons.... I thought it should have over for the characters involved, and if it was necessary to go on (money and viewers said yes) then bring in a new cast. When I finally got around to watching the second and half of the third seasons when they came on for a day-long Heroes marathon, the summary of my feelings were that I left it alone and came back to see it all go downhill remarkably fast. 

Posted by Secret Identity

I have to say that i'm half glad that the show is cancelled now. I absolutely loved season 1. Season 2 was good but the unfortunate writers strike ruined it (it was supposed to end completely differently). Season 3 part one (chapter 3) just went from bad to worse whilst the writers tried to shoehorn the show back to where they had wanted it to be after season 2. That lead to Season 3 part 2 (chapter 4) which wasn't very good but picked up a little ground leaving the show in a really good position for Season 5. That started rather rocky then picked up about half way through..... then it just kinda stopped...... it was building up to something big to happen and then the ending?what ending? The film equivalent would be the delorian reaching 83mph then stalling and coasting to a stop....... I was absolutely the most disappointing end to any show i have ever seen.  
 
Oh and i REALLY wish they had managed to get rid of Claire somewhere in season 3 her parts to the story were awful after seasons 1 and 2. 
 
...... yeah. glad its over because it was just disappointment after disappointment in a show that started so very well.

Posted by RaydelFugeo

I really liked Heroes season 1 & 2, but I feel that the show was hit really hard by the writers strike. I just don't think could recover after that heavy hit.

Posted by Moomin123

 

I'm really p***ed that Heroes got cancelled but I think it ended on a good ending. Claire shares her ability and Sylar turns good. I really hated that.

I wouldn't mind if Heroes makes a film to really go with a bang. There'd be better special effects and everything.

Posted by sysdrum
Posted by DarkSyde79

 First the film/television industry screw’d Heroes with the strike, then FOX screw’d them putting them up against House for a while, and then they screw’d themselves by randomly jumping around from story to story and not really playing out one story to a “natural” conclusion. I’m not even gonna go too far into details about them turning it into a multimedia (web series and comics). In the end, it had its moment and we’re better for it happening. I hope they could eventually have a platform to play out some of the hanging plot lines… 

Posted by goldenkey
@NightFang said:
" @warpedzappa said:
" I would like to see a super hero show on HBO.  Something high budget and great quality. "
             That would be a dream come true.  "

yeah but it'll get ruined because the word Fuck will be every other word used.
Posted by Aquamariner

It Simply means that the writers ran out of Ideas and they're bailing out before they go "Smallville" on the series and start flushing the show down the toilet! 
 
To me Heroes started tu suck after season 2

Posted by MrCipher

It means that superheroes NEED costumes to work. How can you have several seasons of people with powers in their little incestuous relationships and not organize them into a JLA or an Avengers type team and NOT get them into costumes? 
I gave the 1st season a shot but this show sucked very quickly.
Posted by Cherry Bomb

I'm gonna miss 'Heroes'  I'll miss the unique and fun characters they had. :/   Season 1 was amazing, but after that they just didn't really care as much (it seemed) I think they should have had more season mysteries like LOST does, and should've stopped killing off all the good characters (Eden, Candice, Elle, Nikki, Isaac) 

Posted by jordama

I stopped watching when it got to the level of lost confusing.
Posted by The Hottness

this needed to happen...
Posted by Duo_forbidden

 I stopped watching Heroes in between the 3rd season and tried to watch it in the 4th season, but I just couldn't get back into it. I heard that they try to spice things up with Claire kissing another woman. Heroes had potential to be an amazing series, but somehow it went south. 

Mutant X was a interesting show. I was a little to young to fully understand what exactly was going on, but I still watched it whenever I had the chance. 

Birds of Prey was another superhero show that got canceled too soon. I even enjoyed that show.
I'm a huge Smallville fan and after watching season 9, I can't wait to watch season 10, tho I hope this is the last season. After an amazing season since the first few seasons of Smallville (and season finale), I hope season 10 won't bomb.

Posted by Sylar0

I can't belive they caceld the show but the fact of the matter is how much matterial did they have left with the storyline I mean they had a seson finale that changed everything in the whole storyline. I think that they should go with finishing the story with a movie of heroes at least that way we all don't stay in suspence.  
Posted by messiah1994


Well, the problem with heroes was that it started of which such a potential and they just tried to do too much in one season, which actually made the expectations very high for season 2.

 

Posted by Decept-O
@Moomin123:
I totally agree with your comment.  
 
A lot of people dis Heroes.  It had its flaws, but I think a lot of viewers are simply impatient.  Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of plot holes and jumping around, along with some over the top acting, BUT it was still worth watching.   
 
Regarding the potential for any type of super hero shows on television, I say yes. However, it's when there are too many cooks in the kitchen when the meal gets mucked up, and by that I mean when execs and producers who've no familiarity with the super hero genre attempt to put "their spin" on things when all goes awry.   
 
@G-Man:  Wouldn't it be wonderful if either Marvel, DC, Image or Dark Horse approached one of the TV networks with one of their comic properties for a TV series?  
 
So many characters that are available for use.  The FX exist now for such a thing to happen.  One can only dream, I guess.
Posted by logan48227

Heroes was a really interesting concept (granted it ripped off the X-Men in many ways, but it still did things in an interesting way) that got too big, too soon. The first season was pretty good even though it ended badly. After the writers strike hit, however, the show tried to do too much in order to get back on track and ended up losing its way. 
 
I have faith that a superhero property can be made for TV and be successful. Image, Marvel, & DC all have characters that could adapt well for the small screen.
Posted by oNBAo OG Mike Hancho
@Decept-O said:
"@Moomin123: I totally agree with your comment.   A lot of people dis Heroes.  It had its flaws, but I think a lot of viewers are simply impatient.  Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of plot holes and jumping around, along with some over the top acting, BUT it was still worth watching.    Regarding the potential for any type of super hero shows on television, I say yes. However, it's when there are too many cooks in the kitchen when the meal gets mucked up, and by that I mean when execs and producers who've no familiarity with the super hero genre attempt to put "their spin" on things when all goes awry.    @G-Man:  Wouldn't it be wonderful if either Marvel, DC, Image or Dark Horse approached one of the TV networks with one of their comic properties for a TV series?   So many characters that are available for use.  The FX exist now for such a thing to happen.  One can only dream, I guess. "

hell yeah man, damn. i though the show was bad ass, all 4 seasons. i guess we all just have different show tastes or expectations or just way too little attetion spans to wait and see what the purpose for something is. no offense to anyone though...
Posted by Nyogtha
@warpedzappa: The closest thing we will get from them is True Blood, which I admit is great.
Posted by spiderguylll
Posted by ArtisticNeedham

Heroes originally planned to keep the "Heroes Universe small and dangerous."  They came out and said, before season two, that they would end many characters stories by killing them off or just ending them and having them move on.  Then they would bring in new characters and slowly rotate the cast like Law and Order did.
If they had done that from the beginning, starting with season two, the show would have been more successful and may not have been cancelled.
But the studio was afraid of loosing fans of Hiro, Syler, HRG, Clair, Peter, Nathan, and so on.  So they brought them all back.  And we are where we are now with the shows cancellation.
I stopped watching around season three.  Season two was bad but I thought it could get better.
But the other seasons lacked what Season One had.
It was doom and gloom but was fun, the later seasons were TOO doom and gloom and no fun.
 It became too dark to watch.
 
Imagine if Season two started like this:

Posted by GoldenKnightSky

well the show was great  for the first 2 seasons. Then it really tried to go into a direction of some comic book which was kind of okay. I also think it was dragging like the show lost was doing, also I think it's for the best even though it did not end 

Posted by CellphoneGirl

O_o No!! D:

Posted by Omega Ray Jay

The first series is amazing, all subsequent series are dead to me.

Posted by Bossjugg

It sucked around Season 2. IMO they should have killed off Sylar in season 1. The guy became too OP and there was like no way to kill him. No one likes characters like those.

Posted by Bossjugg
@doordoor123 said:
 I give it 20 to 30 years before were going to see a really "successful"superhero show.
I want to disagree that it would take that long for TV studios to make a successful superhero show. But my faith in them are really low with them in general
Posted by ninjasquirrel01

It means that nobody watched it past the first season because it started to suck?

Posted by haydenclaireheroes

All I can hope for with this cancellation is maybe a comic book for the series. I just want some how closure or a way the heroes universe can still be alive. Maybe like what Joss Whedon did with buffy and her comic is still coming out with new material.

Posted by haydenclaireheroes
@nick_clark: I really hope they make a tv movie
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