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Off My Mind: Should Scarlet Witch Be Blamed for her Past Actions?

Heroes often lose control but can her actions be forgiven?

The idea of heroes betraying their teammates or being influenced to perform acts they normally wouldn't is something we've discussed before. In a world full of superpowers, magic, telepathy and advanced technology, there's always a way for writers to come up with scenario where even the greatest heroes can fall from grace.

What Scarlet Witch did was unthinkable. She betrayed the Avengers, caused the deaths of several members and was the reason the team disassembled. She later nearly wiped out an entire species when she said, "No more mutants."

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Clearly she was not in her right mind when she caused all of this. There are several causes that could be assigned to the cause of her actions. Some of her teammates and fellow mutants have forgiven her but not everyone is ready to accept what has happened. The question remains, what should Scarlet Witch do next?

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During the events of CHILDREN'S CRUSADE, we found out how Wanda got so powerful. She was distraught over the death of her children. She went to Doctor Doom, despite him being their enemy, because she knew "his magicks were more powerful" than hers and Dr. Strange's. With Wanda being a nexus being, a living focal point for mystical energies, they combined their magicks and tried to capture the Life Force itself. It turned out to be too much to be controlled and manipulated. It ended up possessing Wanda which lead to bad times for all.

Scarlet Witch did try to atone for her actions. As a demonstration, she successfully restored the lost mutant powers of Rictor. Her plan was to use her vast powers to restore the power to all the other mutants that suffered from her actions. She wasn't given the chance due to Doctor Doom's scheming and the fact that he syphoned off some of her powers.

In this pre-Avengers Vs. X-Men skirmish, the two teams were undecided what should be done with Wanda. Some felt she should be put on trial and others felt death was what she deserved. In the end, it was accepted that she did want to do the right thing. She wasn't fully in control when she unleashed her powers. She left and hadn't been seen for a while.

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Recently (in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #0), she turned up in Washington, D.C. fighting MODOK and various soldiers of AIM. Carol Danvers (along with Spider-Woman) convinced her to return to the Avengers Mansion. She received a rather cold reception from her 'husband,' the Vision. Because of her actions, he ended up being torn to pieces by She-Hulk. To say he feels betrayed by Wanda is an understatement.

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How many times have heroes turned on each other? There are several Avengers that were criminals at some point. Even Vision started out as a pawn of Ultron, meant to destroy the team. Wanda was a pawn as well. She wasn't fully in control of what happened. She wants to atone for her actions and knows it's not going to be an easy journey. People aren't always quick to forgive.

Vision is the one person whose opinion would matter most. In his mind, he suffered a major betrayal. A person he cared basically thrust a gigantic knife into his back.

Saying he should be forgiving and understanding is easy for others to say but regardless of what the reasons were, the doubt will always be there. The seed has been planted in his mind. She, in a sense, went behind his back and tore down everything he thought he knew. She could apologize and try to convince him how sincere she is but will it ever be enough?

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It's hard to imagine that Scarlet Witch will simply go off into the sunset, not being able to win the forgiveness of everyone. She has a lot to offer and her appearance in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN gives the impression there's more coming. All Scarlet Witch can do is try to convince others she's sincere. The problem is because she betrayed others before, there's always the chance she could lose control and do so again. Vision and others should be able to give her another chance. It always comes down to forgiving and forgetting. The forgiving part is sometimes easy. The forgetting part isn't.

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@Daycrawler said:

@White Mage said:

Jean Grey was forgiven because the Phoenix Force became a separate entity, not the actual jean losing control of her powers. Scarlet Witch is still being blamed though, because people would rather not pay attention to the fact that she was possessed. Instead, they would like to hold her actions against her, because Wanda, unfortunately, doesn't have a giant firebird (that everybody can see and fear) to take responsibility for her actions. Hell, Phoenix ate a star and killed how many people? Was it easier to forgive because earthlings weren't directly involved?

Wanda should be forgiven, because it wasn't WANDA. If Magneto's evil @$$ did this, he would be hated even more than he already is. But this wasn't even Wanda's personality.

Nobody forgave anything since Phoenix, as you state, was not Jean but a cosmic entity. Jean didn't need to be forgiven as she'd done nothing wrong. She hadn't even been possessed like Wanda. Not a valid comparison imo.

Wanda was, potentially still is, a mentally disturbed reality altering mutant that nearly screwed up an entire planet and almost wiped out the mutant race. This far exceeds anything that 'reformed' villians like Magneto have actually ever achieved (which doesn't mean I agree with the leniency with which they've been treated with btw). Also, the question still surely remains - Is everyone ABSOLUTELY sure it can't/won't happen again? Magic and how it works can be a very tricky and unpredictable thing! For me that's the beauty of the whole setup from a story-telling point of view. Wanda could still have her powers and be playing some sort of warped game, or the powers/sanity issues are actually lying dormant waiting for the right trigger. There could be any number of valid reasons that she is or still can be a huge world-destroying threat. I think that the magnitude of what she did coupled with the room for doubt that she was possessed and the potential that it could happen again makes it very easy for people not to be able to forgive.

Perhaps she should be forgiven, but she certainly shouldn't be walking around a free person or be allowed to rejoin the Avengers. She should be in prison or under controlled observation at the very least. Put it this way, if an insane person stabs someone and later claims to have regained their senses, they may be forgiven but there still not going to be a free person.

........................................They are practically gift wrapping Hope to an entity that killed a gazillion people, because they feel that there is a possible cure. A possible "Messiah". If that isn't forgiveness/leniency, I don't know what the hell is. They are overlooking a colossal threat because it benefits them, while simultaneously being hateful toward Wanda because she lost control of her powers (which wasn't even 100% her fault). Not to mention the fact that even when the X-Men didn't know that it was Phoenix and not Jean, they STILL had her back. Jean and Phoenix became one, and they still overlook what "they" actually did, because they have a personal attachment to the host body (which is merged with the mass murdering cosmic entity). It IS a valid comparison, because it's still all kinds of effed up, regardless of how people look at it.

Magneto is a terrorist on the highest level. The man is truly disturbed and filled with hate. There is a mental illness within him somewhere, and people have seen glimpses of just how far it can go. He has had a vendetta against humans for how long now? How many plots has he crafted since his creation? He has deliberately tried to eff up humans. But, again, because it wasn't harming "mutants", it's overlooked, and he gets a chance to reform. Wanda suffered from a mystical breakdown. A breakdown that she has now recovered from, and can now receive proper aid from sorcerers like Dr. Strange, and whoever the hell else is willing to rain her. She has OPPORTUNITIES now that she knows of her inner demons. She deserves a chance to heal.

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Wanda is one of my favorite Marvel characters, so i really want them to do something good with her this time around... and Vision better forgive her. forgive me if I'm mistaken, but didn't he try at one point to take over every computer in the world after he was messed up by Annihilus? If Wanda forgave him for that, I think he can forgive her

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simply put .. nope!

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Wanda did what she did because she thought she had lost her kid. HER KID. Any mother would go mad like that if they had the power. I would forgive her but I would also punish her actions at the same time. How? I think everything she's been through is enough.

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My opinion on Wanda has not changed, if she wants to be forgiven she should prove it through her actions and those in The Avengers should give her the chance to prove herself. Yes they do need to be careful around her but at the same time she does need to be given the opportunity.

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Hell yea she should be dead for what she did which was mutant genocide. She has a lot of blood on her hands.

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I say FORGIVE HER, not everyone has been perfect in the Avengers, they've all mad horrible mistakes that jeopardized a lot of their friends.

Another thing: Welcome Back Wanda

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@TheGreyOutcastX said:

I think X-fans have had this discussion the most. Avengers fans usually jump to say yes forgive her and welcome her back to the team. That is the worst thing you could ever do. The Avengers have the notorious past of welcoming back fallen member so long as they look like they want to repent. It gets swept under the rug, and they will act like it never happened.

I said this in another thread about Wanda. You can't let her actions whether they were out of insanity or not go unanswered. That would be a slap on the wrist which is an insult to the readers. It makes it seems like heroes can get away with acts that rival what villains do. That heroes don't bother to reign in their own. That they face no consequences. Look at Illyana. She tricked the X-Men into aiding her in her vengeance against the Elder Gods. She nearly got what was left of mutantkind killed. Scott did what had to be done, and locked her away, and later put restrictions on her actions to insure it wouldn't happen again. Wanda should not get special treatment. She needs to repent, she needs to see and experience what she did to mutants and through that rediscover her own mutant identity. One act alone is not enough.

If she wants to redeem herself, if she wants to fix her mistake, if she truly wants to repent, she must come face to face with those that she harmed and little by little fix and aid mutantkind. Time she put being an Avenger on the back burner and clean up the mess she helped create. Earn forgiveness, don't waste your time asking for it.

Perfectly said. Also she needs to be put under close watch and have her powers (whatever the hell they are this week) reigned in, dampened, cancelled out...something! Hell if Reed could take Franklin off the board for a minute surely they could find someway to manage Wanda.

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it's a catch 22. obviously you can make the blame that her power was to much handle. It worked for Jean Grey why not Wanda. The thing is this tho, Jean lost the Phoenix power but Wanda isn't any less powerful then before she snapped. Or did I miss something and I'm wrong? What ever. She's back and wants redemtion. She pretty much is a hero, and wants to be a hero. What she NEEDS to do is have Dr. Strange tutor her in how to use and control her powers. I remember Dr. Strange saying that he warned Wanda of what could could happen if she never learned how to harness her power and he was right. Marvel needs to explore that situation and have him make her his apprentice and teach her how to use her power. Kind of what Prof. X did with the X-men.

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I can forgive the Scarlet Witch... one of my favorite female heroes since the '60s... BUT, I will never forgive the writer(s) that got her to this sad shape!

What the hell were they thinking?

This ain't good story writing! Wanda has helped win the day time after time... and now she is pretty much a villain!

(Hanging out with Dr. Doom and stuff!)

Sad days indeed.

And, if they would stop messing with Jean Grey/Phoenix I'd be happy too!

I don't buy these crappy comics for a reason.

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It's not fair that Scarlet Witch gets blamed for the whole house of m thing when 1) she was not in the right state of mind and 2) it was Quicksilvers plan to begin with and he basically used his sister, why isn't anyone putting any of the blame on him?

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I think on a personal level they should forgive her, but quite frankly they (especially Capt America) should also turn her in to the authorities for them to decide. Heroes don't have the authority to pardon crimes and it's hard to imagine a President would be able to ... too much political backlash. It may suck for them as they are her friends, but they have a duty to USA and the world first. Either way the writers should bring that up and not leave arrest and trial possibility unmentioned. They'll prob just handwave it away via Nick Fury pulling a favor anyways....

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Lock her up! She's a mutant!

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YES. She brought it on herself. And Carol can go to hell. If there's one person who deserves to be pissed at her, it's Vision.

And why the hell do people still go to Doom for help? Have you learned NOTHING?

It's hard to imagine that Scarlet Witch will simply go off into the sunset, not being able to win the forgiveness of everyone. She has a lot to offer and her appearance in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN gives the impression there's more coming. All Scarlet Witch can do is try to convince others she's sincere. The problem is because she betrayed others before, there's always the chance she could lose control and do so again. Vision and others should be able to give her another chance. It always comes down to forgiving and forgetting. The forgiving part is sometimes easy. The forgetting part isn't.

Yes. She should. And since there are several examples of others in the same boat, I guess that gives her the right to make an attempt at least. But she's gonna have to earn it. And that includes making it up to Vision.

PS: if you're REALLY gonna palm off part of the blame to Doctor Doom... THEN GO AFTER HIM!!!!

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@John Valentine: So basically in your mind, everyone who's done something on cosmic level dangerous deserves to die.

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@Renegade_X said:

@John Valentine: So basically in your mind, everyone who's done something on cosmic level dangerous deserves to die.

When they're crazy and uncontrollable, yes.

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@RedheadedAtrocitus: Agreed

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Can she still alter reality at her own whim? They should address that first. That was the biggest problem with House of M. That and it was kind of tedious....

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The V man rocks

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Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power. Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

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Should BENDIS be forgiven?

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@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power.Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

It is impossible to make solid arguments for Jean, while simultaneously blaming Wanda, while simultaneously mentioning that both women have powers that are capable of making them COMPLETELY unstable.

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The Sentry was blamed, Jean wasn't. If Wanda isn't, then we can certainly see a trend forming.

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@Kuwagata: ...the hell do YOU think?

And what bull**** excuse did they use to shift the blame from Wanda? And what did Doom do, throw up his hands and say, "it wasn't me, man!?!?!?"

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@Emperormeister734:

Yes. Welcome back. we look forward to you killing more of us in an insanity induced rage.

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No. Because HoM was stupid in the first place.

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@FadeToBlackBolt said:

The Sentry was blamed, Jean wasn't. If Wanda isn't, then we can certainly see a trend forming.

Boobs = Forgiveness?

She just practically committed genocide because she remembered her dead kids and went crazy. Blame Bendis, not the Scarlet Bit...Witch. And House of M was stupid! No More Mutants means nothing! Just look at the X-People.

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@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power.Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

It is impossible to make solid arguments for Jean, while simultaneously blaming Wanda, while simultaneously mentioning that both women have powers that are capable of making them COMPLETELY unstable.

No, the situation with Jean and Wanda is completely different, because it wasn't Jean at all. It was the Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. Jean never did anything wrong. Wanda however wasn't replaced with a dupilcate and should be held accountable for her actions. You can't say Jean should be blamed because of what's she's capable of doing or because of what a copy of her did.

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@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power.Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

It is impossible to make solid arguments for Jean, while simultaneously blaming Wanda, while simultaneously mentioning that both women have powers that are capable of making them COMPLETELY unstable.

No, the situation with Jean and Wanda is completely different, because it wasn't Jean at all. It was the Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. Jean never did anything wrong. Wanda however wasn't replaced with a dupilcate and should be held accountable for her actions. You can't say Jean should be blamed because of what's she's capable of doing or because of what a copy of her did.

The X-Men didn't know that it was Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. They had no clue at all.........and they still had her back. Both women have the "Psycho B**ch" gene buried within their psyches, but because of gene's personal attachment to the X-Men, they are still willing to go hard for her.

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@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power.Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

It is impossible to make solid arguments for Jean, while simultaneously blaming Wanda, while simultaneously mentioning that both women have powers that are capable of making them COMPLETELY unstable.

No, the situation with Jean and Wanda is completely different, because it wasn't Jean at all. It was the Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. Jean never did anything wrong. Wanda however wasn't replaced with a dupilcate and should be held accountable for her actions. You can't say Jean should be blamed because of what's she's capable of doing or because of what a copy of her did.

The X-Men didn't know that it was Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. They had no clue at all.........and they still had her back. Both women have the "Psycho B**ch" gene buried within their psyches, but because of gene's personal attachment to the X-Men, they are still willing to go hard for her.

The point is, the situations aren't the same at all. Should the X-Men have defended the Phoenix then? No, they were in the wrong. I'm not saying they weren't. However, Jean herself can't be punished for the sins of the Phoenix when that wasn't even a case of her body being inhabited. If Jean had been the one to do those things my opinion would be the same for her as it is for Magneto and Wanda. If you judge Jean, you're judging her based on the actions of another entity and you can't do that.

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@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@White Mage said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power.Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

It is impossible to make solid arguments for Jean, while simultaneously blaming Wanda, while simultaneously mentioning that both women have powers that are capable of making them COMPLETELY unstable.

No, the situation with Jean and Wanda is completely different, because it wasn't Jean at all. It was the Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. Jean never did anything wrong. Wanda however wasn't replaced with a dupilcate and should be held accountable for her actions. You can't say Jean should be blamed because of what's she's capable of doing or because of what a copy of her did.

The X-Men didn't know that it was Phoenix in a copy of Jean's body. They had no clue at all.........and they still had her back. Both women have the "Psycho B**ch" gene buried within their psyches, but because of gene's personal attachment to the X-Men, they are still willing to go hard for her.

The point is, the situations aren't the same at all. Should the X-Men have defended the Phoenix then? No, they were in the wrong. I'm not saying they weren't. However, Jean herself can't be punished for the sins of the Phoenix when that wasn't even a case of her body being inhabited. If Jean had been the one to do those things my opinion would be the same for her as it is for Magneto and Wanda. If you judge Jean, you're judging her based on the actions of another entity and you can't do that.

Wanda wasn't really Wanda. Quicksilver, Dr. Doom, and the Life Force each played a part in this massive f*ck up. She was possessed as well.

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The Avengers should really be thanking her. They would never have been Marvel's top franchise if it wasn't for Disassembled and HoM.

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That moment when everyone who doesn't understand how debilitating a mental illness is demand her to be blamed...

No, she shouldn't be blamed.

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Since Wanda was mentally unstable during House of M, I don't think that she should entirely be blamed for this event, but she did take away a lot of lives during House of M, so she still has to be held accountable for her actions even though she wasn't mentally stable during House of M.

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Blamed no held to account yes it would go a long way to healing the rift.

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there should be a court of superhero law run by heroes from around the world, one of the judges should be Xavier because he's the only one who sees the mutants and humans as truly equal. There should also be representatives, like Thor for asgard, the protector for the Kree ect.

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decimation is not such a simple event as 'omg look mutant lost there powers whatever! now atleast they won't be bully by humans' it's deeper and runs on more endless tangent than that. forgiveness is not that easy as everyone would believe it's not something you force (if it was easy some of the dialogues should be even more comically contrite for a few good laughs) i don't think she is even that apologetic or understanding of her actions (despite being psycho at the time so "action").

i think Avenger fans and the Avenger themselves remember house of M and decimation as a much happier time lmao because even though they lost some of their best and closest (Hawkeye for example and her own husband Vision ofcourse) when 'mutant freaks' are depowered and it really made them earth's mightiest heroes lol. however you could argue that the majority of mutant has not and might not ever forgive her for what she did and still hate her now, she basicially murdered her own race lol and she goes on panel to apologize to the Avenger and seemingly only them.

also yes grief is unbearable it's true but i would argue that she was either already psycho or childish to go and ask Doom to help kick Death in her imaginary female part and get back her children.

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Whoever wants to forgive her can, that's their choice and right, but nobody should demand anyone else to forgive her. Insane or not, in control or not, Disassembled, House of M and Decimation still happened. Phoenix hasn't ever been forgiven for anything, but Jean hasn't been held accountable because that simply wasn't Jean. Wanda is a deeply disturbed person, with a dangerous amount of power. Because she was being controlled and insane, she shouldn't be executed. Yet, she definitely should not be allowed to walk around free. That's just simple logic. She should be imprisoned at worst or put under observation at best. And she definitely needs to be mentally checked out and cleared.

Magneto should not be free in any way, shape of form. He knew full well what he wa doing and did it again and again.

@TheGreyOutcastX said:

I think X-fans have had this discussion the most. Avengers fans usually jump to say yes forgive her and welcome her back to the team. That is the worst thing you could ever do. The Avengers have the notorious past of welcoming back fallen member so long as they look like they want to repent. It gets swept under the rug, and they will act like it never happened.

I said this in another thread about Wanda. You can't let her actions whether they were out of insanity or not go unanswered. That would be a slap on the wrist which is an insult to the readers. It makes it seems like heroes can get away with acts that rival what villains do. That heroes don't bother to reign in their own. That they face no consequences. Look at Illyana. She tricked the X-Men into aiding her in her vengeance against the Elder Gods. She nearly got what was left of mutantkind killed. Scott did what had to be done, and locked her away, and later put restrictions on her actions to insure it wouldn't happen again. Wanda should not get special treatment. She needs to repent, she needs to see and experience what she did to mutants and through that rediscover her own mutant identity. One act alone is not enough.

If she wants to redeem herself, if she wants to fix her mistake, if she truly wants to repent, she must come face to face with those that she harmed and little by little fix and aid mutantkind. Time she put being an Avenger on the back burner and clean up the mess she helped create. Earn forgiveness, don't waste your time asking for it.

amen

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also people are saying abt how X-men are violent killers and possess powerful villains who could easily turn on them etc etc and then look to Emma Frost as an example needs to remember that Kitty, Storm and Warren and a bunch of other older X-men (even some newer ones) have never forgiven or truly trust the former White Queen despite numerious many accomplishments she had done for them. case and point Casandra Nova they fricking though she was going to betray them till the last second despite knowing that Emma was hurt by Casandra way more than them. (that really pissed me off and hurt me btw)

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Super villians should never be reformed.

If SW HAS to be redeemed, pull some Paralax BS & say she was replaced by an evil counterpart, or brainwashed. Or a demon did it. Maybe Magneto had Emma Frost mind control her into maing the House of M.

But whatever, I just hope they dont make her magic a metaphor for drug use like they did with Willow in Buffy Seasons 6 &7.

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That doesn't look like he is holding back.  
That doesn't look like he is holding back.  
OKAY, kill some kids because Stark messed up and  AvX: Consequences #2 sent the Phoenix into the wrong hosts. Then one of them takes down your nation. And Storm is to blame even though she helped bust out the Avengers. Yah.  
OKAY, kill some kids because Stark messed up and  AvX: Consequences #2 sent the Phoenix into the wrong hosts. Then one of them takes down your nation. And Storm is to blame even though she helped bust out the Avengers. Yah.  
Scott and Emma go to jail because of Stark's screw up. Which turns them into hosts of a cosmic being.  
Scott and Emma go to jail because of Stark's screw up. Which turns them into hosts of a cosmic being.  
I call bull%hit Lock her up!!!
I call bull%hit Lock her up!!!
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 At least Hope has the right idea.
 At least Hope has the right idea.
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The writers are in favor of the Witch. Cyclops was not locked up for long. He escaped and never went to trial for killing his mentor. Wait a sec... people think he can be forgiven, but not Wanda? After everything that happened in AvX, there I can tell you it was not Wanda's responsibility. Wanda is not the only one who has made mistake. Cyclops made mistakes, Emma, Xavier, Magik, Namor, Storm, and many more. And don't tell me that neither one of you had made mistake and want forgiven. Oh please.

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If they kept the original reason for House of M then I could forgive her. The retcon that showed she knowingly sought out a foreign power she couldn't control and then teamed up with Doom to use that power changed my mind on that. She should be held accountable for her actions since she set herself on that path.

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She wasn't right on her mind. Her children was taken away and that's what drove her insane, but she's not insane anymore. She did brought the mutants back and fixed her Boo-Boo. Beside, she didn't remember anything about that day. So there is no reason for punishment. Hell, Cyclops still haven't took responsibility for the death of his mentor. I think he should held accountable for his actions since he set himself on that path, but instead he escaped.

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@mrsinister: ok what about jean gray? she killed a galaxy of people and her circumstances were the same as the scarlet witches except for the fact that Wanda saw the "absorption" of her two children when her husband lost all of his emotions she didn't even get the chance to grieve since Agatha decided that i will just make her forget .I'm basically saying that if jean is forgiven ,wanda also needs to be forgiven

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Just curious, is any of this still relevant after the retcon and the relaunch? Or is James Robinson starting over with a clean slate?

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Unpopular opinion: Wanda should be praised

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This has also aged interestingly