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Off My Mind: Should DC Have Taken Bigger Risks With 'The New 52'?

Has there really been enough change to justify all the relaunches?

We are now three months into DC Comic's 'The New 52.' It's hard to believe that just a few months ago we were all sitting around waiting to see what was going to happen. There was excitement along with plenty of fear and trepidation. DC's idea was to make things fresh and to bring in new readers. These were things the comic industry did indeed need.

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For long time readers, many felt they were being alienated. We had given years of commitment and knew the characters inside and out. Many of the stories we loved were going to go away and some of the characters bore little resemblance to the heroes we followed.

What we ended up with a mix of old and new. Some characters reverted to their original roots, some have gone through some big changes and others haven't changed a bit. If the idea was for DC to really shake things up, should they have taken bigger risks with their characters?

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Since the relaunch, it's been Starfire's portrayal in RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS that has been the center of some controversy. Long time readers have expressed their outrage towards writer Scott Lobdell's first issue. Starfire has a new attitude and many were offended at her casual views on certain...intimate matters. Starfire has never been an extremely bashful individual but her bold statement and acts, along with conversation with Roy Harper enough to get people talking.

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It's possible there may be more to the story of Starfire than we've been allowed to see in the first couple issues. The fact that a bold move was made is something to think about. Lobdell took a risk and isn't that what 'The New 52' was supposed to be about? We don't necessarily need all comics to go straight for sexual content but it was an unexpected scene.

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Many characters haven't gone through any changes. Looking at BATMAN, GREEN LANTERN and some others, the books pick up pretty much where they left off before 'The New 52.' For long time readers, that's a good thing. But the point of this was to make things stand out in order to bring in new readers.

As much as comic book readers have been enjoying the stories, clearly they weren't enough. Prior to 'The New 52,' sales were in a slump. Something needed to be done to entice new readership.

That's where the double edge sword comes in. DC could have given a mandate and told everyone to shake things up to the core. For some of the characters, we're seeing them for the first time once again. There is some excitement in that. We're familiar with the characters but we don't know what might happen next.

If we believe everything we know about the characters is safe, there's no need to be concerned. Readers could even step away from a title for a period and come back, believing nothing truly major would happen.

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We have seen some bold moves besides Starfire's new attitude. Barbara Gordon can walk once again and we still don't really know how. Wonder Woman now has a father. The relationships/marriages between Clark Kent and Lois Lane as well as Barry Allen and Iris West have been wiped out. Were these moves enough for the new readers to get excited about comics?

Change for change's sake isn't always a good thing. Other drastic differences could have been made. I recently talked to someone who suggest Guy Gardner should have been reverted to a teenager. Imagine a teenage Green Lantern Guy possessing one of the most powerful weapons in the universe. Long time readers would hate that but there would be new and different stories that could be told.

Bold and risky or just awkward?
Bold and risky or just awkward?

Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating that every character should have been flipped upside down. It's no secret I am enjoying books like BATMAN, ANIMAL MAN, GREEN LANTERN and so on. These books, and others, haven't necessarily completely re-written who the characters are. We're just getting some really kick-ass stories out of those writers. But we have had kick-ass stories many times in the past. They never were enough to fully rejuvenate the industry and bring in hordes of new readers.

It was the introduction of the black symbiote suit for Spider-Man that caused me to start reading comics. Making the news was a great way to get me to find a comic shop and find out what was going on. I'm even willing to admit that I enjoyed Rick Remender's FrankenCastle storyline because I knew things would go back to normal. I enjoyed the story and appreciated the risk he was willing to take.

Big changes can attract new readers. They just have to be well-written so long time readers don't get angry.

With comic books, even the biggest changes can be reverted. This is why the time is perfect for taking risks. We may not like change but sometimes it can be for the better. How many people thought Dick Grayson replacing Batman could turn out as awesome as it did? If a big change was made and it failed, there's always a loop hole in comic book logic.

Let's hope writers will continue to push themselves as they currently are and make this an exciting time to be reading comics.

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I don't have a big write up for this one. Pretty much just the tip of the iceberg and much more in store to come.

I have no doubts whatsoever that we've yet to even see the real big punches pulled, and the events that take place

in these series will continue to jump up in the news as the year continues.

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This feels nothing like a reboot, it feels like a trajectory adjustment for most of the characters but nothing shockingly new. It just seems like such a waste of an idea. Don't get me wrong there are some quality titles coming out. I just want a bat family series that doesn't feature bats..Nightwing [Dick Grayson], Red Robin [Tim Drake], Black Bat [Cassandra Cain], Robin [Damian Wayne], Batwoman [Kate Kane], Batgirl [Stephanie Brown], and hell throw in Red Hood [Jason Todd] for something interesting.

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Like DC has said many times in the past... They never called it a reboot! That was something the media strong-armed people into thinking. They called it a revitalization and a revamp, two completely different words.

Also, did anyone read the editor note at the end of AvSM, where they take that shot at DC and claim they're not wasting our money? Yeah Marvel, I could get two Marvel books or spend one dollar more and get three DC books (aside from Action and JL). Darn DC for wasting our money...

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Risks? - What exactly did D.C. risk? - All they've really done is IMPROVED their writing/scripting on Some books - and I do mean SOME - Sorry but How exactly are these books really any different? - D.C. is still cluttering their histories of their characters - now with their new and Improved - "Selective Memory Enhancements" -

I know - we'll pick and choose what we like - no matter if it makes sense or not - we'll figure it out as we go along.

Same character cohesion troubles that led to Crisis on Infinite Earths. Now it's even worse as their NO cohesion of character development between titles - eg: Action Comics & Superman - feels like 2 different characters - albeit similar - and it's more than just saying the artistry is lending to the feeling of the books - they clearly feel like two individual personalities.

And how exactly did D.C. take risks with Batman? - or any of the other Bat characters? -

They simply renumbered them - I'm sorry - but this is a short-term pay-off -

When you sit down and think about it - what new 52 books immediately come to mind?

Ask yourself that again in 6 months - and then a year from now -

Batman is the only real character D.C. is taking chances with - look at the great wealth of graphic novels - Elseworld stories - cutting edge issues that the character deals with - All focused soley on one Character - They could have similar success if they really start pushing the bar with the other characters and REALLY start taking CHANCES.

Hey - let's see an Animal Man/Catwoman story - Constantine/Harley Quinn - Shade/Sinestro - Spectre/I-Vampire (a few random examples) - and take them and push the boundaries a little - conflict of character traits - push the boundary of what these characters would do when put in extraordinary circumstances (or wouldn't do). Part of what makes successful stories is the character interaction - most of the time when they are at odds - but still seem to pull through - so Come on D.C.!

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@snowtires: Probably not the main reason for the reboot but defiantly a factor :)

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@krazyman27 said:

Like DC has said many times in the past... They never called it a reboot! That was something the media strong-armed people into thinking. They called it a revitalization and a revamp, two completely different words.

Also, did anyone read the editor note at the end of AvSM, where they take that shot at DC and claim they're not wasting our money? Yeah Marvel, I could get two Marvel books or spend one dollar more and get three DC books (aside from Action and JL). Darn DC for wasting our money...

Yes and the Federal government calls a Depression a economic down turn or a recession. Make fundamental changes to characters pasts and it strikes of a reboot. DC should just own up that they reboot series, but i understand that corporation love to use misleading language to confuse the issue.

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@zackattack529: Why are digital copies selling so well? Because they are easily obtained??

If the sales are high even after 5 years then it could be argued DC has done something right. Right now everyone is just interested to check out the titles in hopes of something new and interesting.

There are a lot of things to like about the New 52 but there's equal amounts to hate particularly with titles like Catwoman or Red Hood.

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IMO they ruined starfire. She was always a forward and sexual character, but she never slept with just anybody, let alone with people whose names she didn't know. Her character, her sexuality, was always about love. She came from a culture that believed in sharing love with multiple people, basically polyamory. Now, not only is she colder, but she isn't about love anymore? They completely stripped her character down to "kicks butt and has pointless casual sex." Lovely, she's so much better for it /sarcasm.

Was this just some move to get her as far away from nightwing? I've always been a fan of the pairing, but I'll admit the writers have handled them horribly. What was so unique about starfire that they couldn't build upon her character, as opposed to wiping the slate clean? You're writers, show same talent.

As many others have stated, an ultimate DC universe would have been much better. They don't seem to go far enough to justify a reboot in terms of scope, but the reboot seems to have negatively effected some characters that have been affected.