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Off My Mind: Mutants And Vampires

Because the X-Men don't have enough enemies as it is.

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One of the pieces of news that came out of C2E2 this past weekend was the X-Men would be fighting vampires. Yes, vampires. This isn't the first time that the mutants have fought vampires. They did have some run-ins with Dracula in the past so they might be a little prepared.
 
These days it feels like vampires are everywhere. We have Twilight, Vampire Diaries, True Blood, etc. You can't get away from them. Now we know why Blade will be hanging out with the X-Men for a bit.
 
When I first heard this, I thought it was just crazy. Do we really need or want to see the X-Men fighting vampires? I thought about it for a bit and decided it could work. Despite their recent fight with almost zombie-like characters in Necrosha, this could be a nice change of pace. How many times have the X-Men fought the Sentinels or the Hellfire Club? I'm all for seeing a fight against a different set of "villains." But I am a little skeptical, obviously.
 
The other thing that makes this interesting is this is happening during The Heroic Age. I will admit that when I first heard about The Heroic Age coming after Dark Reign and Siege, a small part of me was afraid we were only going to have happy, bright, cheerful stories. But we all know better. Vampires don't seem too bright and cheerful to me. Plus the fact that in one of the promos, it appears that little Jubilee has turned into a vampire. Although from the other promo similar to the group shot of the X-Men above, it appears that perhaps some X-Men other than Jubilee will be turning into Vampires as well.
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What's the verdict? Is it a good idea to have the X-Men fight vampires? Writer Victor Gischler gives us some assurance.

"It's going to be a nice fresh look at vampires. I think people are going to be pretty impressed."

 With some "less familiar" X-characters being brought in, perhaps we will see more mutants turn into vampires. That could be a way to turn things on its side. We'll have a new team of X-Men introduced but they won't all survive. Or they won't all remain regular mutants. It wouldn't be too big of a shock if Marvel decided to change some mutants into vampires. Even though the number of mutants has gone down since M-Day, there are still a lot of mutants sitting around doing nothing. Is this a good use of underused characters? Would you rather see a character stuck in comic book limbo or have them converted into a mutant/vampire hybrid? It's a tough call but since I'm not the biggest fan of vampires, I think I would rather have them stay at home.
 
What will happen if a mutant turns into a vampire? I'm pretty sure there isn't a cure for vampirism in the Marvel Universe. If one of the X-Men gets changed, are they stuck like that for good? I know anything can happen in comics and writers are always coming up with ways to "fix" things, but this might be a little trickier.
 
What are your thoughts on vampires in the X-Men comics? At least it's not werewolves, right? We've already had some in the pages of X-Force.

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Marvel played with the occult, Dracula, werewolves, frankenstein and demons half a century before twilight.

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 mutant/vampire hybrid.....OH MY GOD.....IT IT IT CAN'T BE......TWILIGHT:REQUIM 
 
 
 
If don't know its a play of words on Predator & alien 2.....AND TWILIGHTS RETARDED 

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@charlieboy said:
" i think it owuld be interesting. i loved the drac stories back in the day. although i have to agree with whoever said that dazzler would be pretty instrumental in defeating the vamps. she can do various forms of light. so the vamps are screwed. "
Lillith has recently found a way through magic to shield them from light.
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Also in the x-universe .... now there's vampires are everywhere .... interesting ... we'll see.

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i think it owuld be interesting. i loved the drac stories back in the day. although i have to agree with whoever said that dazzler would be pretty instrumental in defeating the vamps. she can do various forms of light. so the vamps are screwed.
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@Korg said:

" @Voidheart said:

"As for Hypnosis though, he is more than able to subdue her that way, and the others. "
Hypnosis is for losers with big, weird eyebrows! "
 
 
You will bow
 

 
Dracula actually made a vow that he would return so this story arc is actually long since due
 

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@Voidheart said:
"As for Hypnosis though, he is more than able to subdue her that way, and the others. "
Hypnosis is for losers with big, weird eyebrows!
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@Korg said:
"which makes him (and all vampires) perfect targets for Magneto. "
which would be precisely why Magneto would be leading the team.
@Korg said:
"Yeah, seeing as he couldn't even maintain control over Storm, I don't think a team that has Emma Frost, Xavier, and potentially X-Man has to worry about telepathic intrusion from Dracula at all really."
It was Storm's almost unyielding will that broke her free of his "complete" control, and she wasn't completely turned either.
 
As for Hypnosis though, he is more than able to subdue her that way, and the others.
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@Voidheart said:

" Unless he is telepathically under control.... which Drac is more than capable of doing. "

Yeah, seeing as he couldn't even maintain control over Storm, I don't think a team that has Emma Frost, Xavier, and potentially X-Man has to worry about telepathic intrusion from Dracula at all really. Not to mention he's full of extra blood, which makes him (and all vampires) perfect targets for Magneto.
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@Voidheart said:
" @Korg said:
" This a is a really stupid idea, and I can give you one specific reason, though there are many: Sunspot absorbs solar energy, and also outputs it. He should be able to absolutely destroy any vampire forces the X-Men ever encounter. Pretty sure Dazzler could also proved some help with that, though it wouldn't be strictly necessary. "
Unless he is telepathically under control.... which Drac is more than capable of doing. "
What about Nate Grey and Emma Frost? Can he overpower both of them telepathically? Or is Nate Grey not actually in the comic? I'm just going by the teaser images, so I don't know if he's actually on the X-Men or not.
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@Korg said:
" This a is a really stupid idea, and I can give you one specific reason, though there are many: Sunspot absorbs solar energy, and also outputs it. He should be able to absolutely destroy any vampire forces the X-Men ever encounter. Pretty sure Dazzler could also proved some help with that, though it wouldn't be strictly necessary. "
Unless he is telepathically under control.... which Drac is more than capable of doing.
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@VanTesla said:
" No more Vampires please :(  Why do I feel the X-Men are getting bad story's constantly in the main universe..... "
That is why I read Ultimate X-men & now Ultimate X
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No more Vampires please :( 
 
Why do I feel the X-Men are getting bad story's constantly in the main universe.....
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Vampires are a part of the Marvel Universe, might as well spread the wealth... as long as it's natural.

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@Korg:  
You brought up some good points earlier about characters who could fight vampirism and now some who could cure it. 
Bottom line vampires are flavour of the month and there's no risk of a charactert staying vampire. 
This whole idea stinks like ass. 
It's a flash in the pan at best.  
Nothin' to see here folks. move a long. 
 
I said it before and here it is again. Give us X-men in mutant related stories and I'm in.  
Bring mutant politics back and do away with this 128 or how ever many mutants are left nonsense. Give us hated and feared muties again. I remember X-treme X-men (stoopid title by the way) with mutants flaunting their powers and bullying humans. None of that. Loses the whole fable quality or the oppressed minority.
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@Gylan Thomas said:
"You say there's no cure for Vampirism in the MU? I'm pretty sure the writers could come up with one if they wanted."
I was just thinking that Elixir could probably pull it off. I mean, between the telepaths, and the big brains that exist in Marvel, it should be easy to allow someone like Reed Richards or Hank Pym to work with Eilxir on a cure, and Elixir already has all of Beast's knowledge of biology.
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stuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid 
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@Voidheart said:
" Want, reeaaaallly bad. "
Agreed this could be really cool
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Couple of points. 
You say there's no cure for Vampirism in the MU? I'm pretty sure the writers could come up with one if they wanted. 
And the "Twilight" cover? Chances are it's just another annoying variant. 
 
Please this just be a cash in on the vampire trend. 
I'd much rather have Storm than Mutant-X's Blood Storm.

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Let's cash in on the latest flavour of the month. 
Please god let this be a one off story with no lasting effects. So no mutants becoming Vampires. I'd rather have Storm than Mutant-X's Blood Storm.

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Rogue is the only one who looks like she should be a Vampire.

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@extrememage said:
" i think this could could be quite good as long the vampires arent sparkly "
And werewolves don't look like boys in larry clark films
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This a is a really stupid idea, and I can give you one specific reason, though there are many: Sunspot absorbs solar energy, and also outputs it. He should be able to absolutely destroy any vampire forces the X-Men ever encounter. Pretty sure Dazzler could also proved some help with that, though it wouldn't be strictly necessary.

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I just hope whatever happens has lasting effects. I hate when some major change happens then it's back to normal in a few issues

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I thought this was about mutant vampires, lol.

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Vampires are cool and the X-men Are cooler,which means this is going to be AWESOME!!

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 Daylight
 Daylight
 Twilight
 Twilight
I'll admit that I do like to open the two versions of the group shot & switch between images to look at the changes.  I'm kinda dorky like that. 
 
But I'm seriously sick of Vampires.  I  have been for years.  They invaded manga a couple of years ago.  They invaded LiveJournal.  They invaded my cross-over (although the variant covers for Necrosha were brilliant)... 
 
I just don't DON'T want vampires in my comics!   
 
I'd rather see Jubilee depowered & dead than turned into the undead.  It's a terrible cliché to give the powerless girl vampire powers instead.  Either leave her unpowered, or just kill her... Don't waste our time with something that'll only be retconned in a year or two :( 
 

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Next up:  Mutants vs Zombies!  
 
Awwwww yeah!  
 
It could even be X-Men vs Marvel Zombies!   
 

I wanna see Blade try and turn them all into Vampires! ... ZAMPIRES!
I wanna see Blade try and turn them all into Vampires! ... ZAMPIRES!
Of course it would later spread to the Avengers, Thunderbolts, and to the whole Marvel Universe in a major crossover event!   Heck, even have some mutants or heroes turned Vampire in the current storyline fight alongside or against the Zombies!
 
Holy Jigglypuff!  That's brilliant!  I think I'm turning into the new and sexier Geoff Johns with a dash of Dan Slott!    
 
Oh please hire me Marvel
 
You heard and read it here 1st!
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What are they doing to Jubileeee?!?!?!? Hopefully they don't kill her off

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This... might get me to read X-men. Wow.

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@FoxxFire 
hardly part of dark reign? Utopia and the dark x-men took up pretty much everything all the way til second coming. Besides Tony Stark I think there's a strong argument the X-men have been the most effected by dark reign
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Team edward vs Team X-men?
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didn't Dr. Strange cast a spell eliminating all vampires from the 616 universe? or am I just showing my old age?
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I like them doing something new.

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zzzzzzzz I will stick with X-Men Second Coming and the upcoming Astonishing X-Men

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I'm glad to see everyone back in their old Astonishing outfits rather than the newer ones.

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I hate vampires but I love the X-Men. I think I´ll have to overcome my hate!

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In the X-men Writers/Editors Summit meeting-- 
 
"Let's do something different with the X-Men." 
 
"Any Suggestions" 
 
<crickets> 
 
"How 'bout Vampires?" 
 
"Great idea!  No one's using undead in comics these days..."
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I wonder if they'll come out with another blacked out teaser listing the X-Men that'll get bitten. 
 
I think Gambit would make a cool vamp 
Marrow and Stacy X would be nice too (are they still alive?)

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It looks alright. Way to far off for me to see whether it works or not.
Like anything its going to boil down to the presentation, as whether
or not its written well. The story makes some sense. The vampires and
mutants are both diminished species and the vampires decide to take it
to them, especially in light of the events of MI:13, which i felt left me hanging and 
needed more resolve. To the best of my understanding this will be in the new series
itself and might not really be an X-Over, so it might be optional anyways.

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Weak...
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@FoxxFireArt said:
"Even the X-Men aren't immune to the TWITlight fanaticism. It's amazing how after something becomes popular everyone has to abuse it. Didn't Marvel just finish Necrosha?
 
It's not too surprising that the X-Men story wouldn't be too closely connected to Heroic Age. They were hardly involved in Dark Reign.  I would be more impressed if they could make vampires fresh. Especially in the already over saturated market. That in itself would be quite the accomplishment. At worst. Let's just hope this will be over fast. "

Have you seen the July Solicts for Marvel? 
If you notice the X-Men solicits seem to be heavily involved eith Heroic Age... Durin Wonder Con it was said that the X-Men would be more involved in the Marvel U... 
 
Making Vampires fresh seems hardly the case but I do have a Hypothesis on who will be a vampire and who won't! ;)
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i think this could could be quite good 
as long the vampires arent sparkly
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@Mr. Dead Pool said:
"Well now I see why Blade is on the team "
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I'm collecting 3 X-Titles: Uncanny X-Men,X-23, and X-Men. 

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This could go either way. Worst case scenario is that they find some way to make the characters that get turned into vamps back into normal mutants. They already showed a type of "cure" once in the recent Blade comics were he's fighting Spidey in who has been bitten by Dracula and turned . After he beats Spidey and stakes Drac ; S.H.I.E.L.D.  shows up to take away Drac's corpse and when an agent asks Blade what to do about Spidey he tells him not to worry since Spidey's radioactive blood/biology will treat the vampirism as a disease given time will burn it out of his system making him normal again. When we next see Spidey in the comic a few issues later he's back to normal. So basically if this really doesn't work well the writer's will just write in some scientist type character if not Beast making some kinda cure that will inadvertantly not only turn the victim back to normal but also restore their powers if they've been depowered.
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Vampires were one of my favorite monsters growing up, in recent years the watering/dumbing down of the vampire genre (at least in the mainstream) has caused me to move down to the zombie camp. As for Vampires and X-Men.. well combine that with the awful art they've been pimping this silly project with and it's a recipe for shitmonkeys.  
Seriously, makes me wanna yell "WHOSE RESPONSIBLE THIS", but I already know the answer. i just wanna know what they smoked and snorted when they thought all this was a remotely good idea. This could possibly turn into the lowest point in X-Men comics, ever.
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as long as vampires don't turn out to be one of chuck austen's mutant groups (like the ngels and the demons back in the early 200s) i'll be happy with this.
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