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Off My Mind: Marriage in Comic Books

Lots of things are possible in superhero comics but maintaining a marriage is a difficult task.

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When it comes to superhero comic books, there's one aspect to them that most refuse to acknowledge. Comic books are like soap operas. Besides heroes getting new costumes and punching out supervillains, romance always pops up in the pages. Entire story arcs have revolved around who a character will choose to be their significant other or whether or not a character will ever get to hook up with anyone.

As time and stories progress, some characters manage to develop a strong relationship. The characters may date for a while, have the occasional fight or break up and then get back together, stronger and more in love than ever. With the evolving nature sometimes seen in comics, the inevitable next step is marriage.

A wedding in comic books, with major characters, can be a big deal. It's a way to celebrate a happy moment in the lives of the characters we've grown fond of. It's always a way to draw attention to a title and be mentioned in other forms of media. The problem is, the marriages never seem to last. Once the wedding happens, the honeymoon is often a relatively short time. Why is it most comic book characters can't maintain a marriage?

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Storm and Black Panther

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This is the most recent couple that has been facing problems. When Ororo and T'Challa married, it was a happy time. It may not have been plastered all over the news but it gave two longstanding characters a chance at happiness. Storm rarely has had the opportunity to experience love. When she first joined the X-Men, she was written as the naive newcomer that often walked around the mansion naked. Rarely was she given the chance to experience love. When she and Forge finally got together, it was his invention that caused her mutant powers to be removed. That put a bit of a kink in their relationship.

Allowing Storm and Black Panther gave the two a bit of an evolution. It let them mature in a way that doesn't often happen. With his position in Wakanda, it opened the door for new sorts of stories for Storm. Unfortunately those stories were few and never really went anywhere. Storm soon found herself back with the X-Men and Black Panther spent some alone time in Hell's Kitchen. Many questioned what was happening with their marriage and what was the point of it.

In last week's AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9, we now know the answer to what will happen with the marriage. It's been annulled. At least they were allowed to dissolve the wedding properly and no retcons or reboots were necessary.

Storm and Black Panther's wedding isn't the only one to be dissolved.

DC Comics Marriages

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With DC's New 52, we also saw the end of some marriages. Superman and Lois Lane, Barry Allen and Iris West and Green Arrow and Black Canary all were married but that is no longer the case (although Ollie and Dinah's marriage ended just before the New 52 began).

Clark and Lois' marriage was a big deal when it happened. With the desire to make the comics fresh and exciting again, DC has made some strides forwards in some areas but also taken steps backwards in others. Sure we get to see the whole romance build up again and it shouldn't be a big deal but their marriage lasted over fifteen years for readers. Now it's as if it never happened.

Barry and Iris may end up back together eventually (if things don't work out between Barry and Patty or if Barry ever gets around to saving Iris, who is trapped in the Speed Force). With them not being married now, what does that mean for their children in the future. We still don't know if Bart Allen is actually related to Barry. Yes, we've had clues that he's from the same future he was pre-New 52, but who knows if that will be changed somehow as other minor details have in the New 52.

Marvel Marriages

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Spider-Man and Mary Jane's wedding was wiped away as a result of One More Day. It was felt that readers couldn't relate to a Spider-Man married to a supermodel. Peter Parker always had girl problems. Unfortunately, it did seem as if some writers weren't sure what to do with the marriage. Mary Jane was often left waiting around at home. There was also her kidnapping and supposed death along with their separation. It seemed that having Mephisto erase their marriage was more acceptable than the two actually getting a divorce.

There are other marriages that didn't work out in the Marvel Universe. Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Daredevil and Milla Donovan, Hulk and Betty Banner, Cyclops and Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch and Vision, Quicksilver and Crystal and Johnny Storm and Lyja (well, she was a Skrull impersonating Alicia Masters so you can't blame him for wanting to end the marriage).

There are plenty others as well.

What comic books are telling us is it's possible for individuals to gain or possess incredible superpowers. Heroes can come back from the dead after sacrificing their lives. Life exists on other planets and in other dimensions. What doesn't seem to exist is strong and long lasting marriages. It might be that it's believed readers can't relate to them. That's hard for me to understand as I've been married for a while and still am reading comics. I'm sure many of the older readers that have continued to follow the adventures of their favorite heroes are also married. Why is it so hard to accept the idea that two characters could be in love and want to become a couple? Does being married get in the way of fighting supervillains?

At least there are still some marriages lasting. Reed and Sue Richards have been married since 1973. Let's hope we can see some marriages actually happen and last in comics. It's hard enough for those younger readers whose actual parents go through rough patches. Comics are often seen as a way to escape and to become immersed in the adventures. There's no need to see comic book characters go through the same situation too many do in the real world.

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The comic creators have used marriage as another sensationalistic plot device to artificially boost sales.

They've done the same thing with character death & resurrection for years and are now doing it with sexual preference (usually homosexuallity).

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@Hamlet:

What is a "Pram?"

I completely agree that Peter and M.J. should be together. I still freaking hate OMD...

@godsboy said:

@Emperormeister734: I thought they were not together, remember in Avengers vs X-men Round 9 T'Challa said that his marriage with Storm was annulled.

You are correct. They are NOT together. T'Challa annulled the marriage himself.

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@Agent9149 said:

I want to see Emma and Scott get married. My goodness.

Even after Emma and Namor were making out in Scott's presence?

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Perhaps it is time for Reed Richards and Sue Storm to divorce?

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It's like a celebrity marriage, too much responsibilities to do both.

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I've noticed that the superhero/civilian marriages seem to last a lot longer than the superhero/superhero marriages do (with a few exceptions, like Reed Richards and Sue Storm, but I think they were an item before they became super). It could be their commitments to their responsibilities, or the whole conflicting superegos thing, but I find the most likely cuprit would probably be the writers.

They want to keep things fresh, new and interesting, (like you wrote, comics are very much like soap operas), and they seem to think we won't accept a long-term relationship. Comic writers seem to think that we like our heroes playing the field and never settling down, which (if it wasn't for the extra money super-weddings brought in) would make us wonder why they ever have two characters marry at all.

I realize there is a touch of realism in this, only half of marriages last nowadays and people seem to be trying much less to make them work, but superheroes are supposed to be an inspiration for us (even the more tongue in cheek ones), and it would be a little more heartening if more of them could stay together.

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@Shoe said:

@EvilAndy: 100% agree, I loved that Peter finally got the girl. He had plenty of other problems during that time in the comics. They should have just killed aunt may and let MJ be his 'rock'

also don't be mad at spidey. It was MJ who made the deal with Mephisto, Peter didnt want to do it.

That is true because MJ felt that no matter what the consequences are between them, their love for each other will eventually find themselves back together again. Easier said than done because it will be a very long time before Peter x MJ are back together again under that same roof. And if Felicia Hardy remembers Peter's identity as Spider-Man once again, she will go after him with a vengeance. She would make sure that she has Spidey all to herself. 
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@Barkley said:

marriage is real thing and normal and if you cant write it you cant write...which would explain that alot of comic book writers dont touch they dont have the skill...cause they 2 things that dont write in Comics...SEX & children which real things and somethings thats some fanboys dont like cause they dont have them sex or children

I couldn't say it better myself. DC ruined some really nice marriages, and the same with Marvel. There's a lot of potential in keeping relationships well, and *gasp* keeping a couple married, but it's true when different writers come in, some no doubt hate marriage or dislike it, and away it goes. I don't think anything can be done about it, except to re-read the older stories where the relationships were good.

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Why bring up OMD again? I still haven't read a spidey book since. My favorite character has become someone i don't see a point in reading... ok, i'll shut up about it... for now.. :)

Celebrities also have a tough time staying married. Like someone said earlier, marriage involves time & commitment. Celebs & heroes probably have a tough time making the marriage a priority as they both put their jobs first & there is a lot of temptation out there. Plus if they are married to a non-hero/celeb their spouse will probably have a tough time relating to the time commitments etc. Also, if you're fighting with your spouse, it takes a lot of your focus & attention, which can be dangerous if you're a hero. Going through the fights to their hopeful happy conclusion ain't easy and might not be worth the effort especially considering the possible consequences.

@Crowingaboutcomics: nice summary! i agree with everything you said there.

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They forgot to mention the ending of Midnighter and Apollo's marriage in the New 52.

They still remain my favorite married couple of all time.

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@Emperormeister734: I thought they were not together, remember in Avengers vs X-men Round 9 T'Challa said that his marriage with Storm was annulled.

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Look At them!!! Just look! they're like they wanna make Loo0ve! spotlight on em' eh?
Look At them!!! Just look! they're like they wanna make Loo0ve! spotlight on em' eh?
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@mewmdude77 said:

@UnderDogs_OverBoard said:

Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

There's actually an alternate universe where Marvel's Civil war didn't happen, cause that universe Captain America and Ironman (or would it be Iron woman, since it was a female Tony?) got married.

o.O really? cuz i'm not into alternate timelines really...

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@Azjenco said:

To be truthful, I'm not all heartbroken about Clark and Lois. In my heart I've always wanted him and Diana. To me a relationship between Superman and Wonder Woman just feels right and they fit together.

Since the New 52 I feel it might happen. I know it probably won't happen, but I can only hope.

I hate Clois. I'm more of a Clana kinda person

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I'm starting to become convinced that marriage doesn't work well in comics because of comics reflecting marriage rates in real life and the writers often choose to symbolize that in their work. How else to explain why writers, especially with regard to relationships in the New 52, would retcon a bunch of marriages to where they never even existed now? Perhaps writers don't believe in marriage, maybe t hey do. At the very least in a day and age in which half of all marriages end up in divorce, comics aren't really doing anything unfortunately that real life doesn't already reveal. Its rather unfortunate.

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Buddy and Ellen/Arthur and Mera are still together, the only marriage i miss is Clark and Lois.

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Although I really like Spider-Man and MJ marriage, as long as Buddy and Ellen Baker stay together I'm cool.

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Really good post. I love this subject.

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any marriage that wasn't written about in the 70's or 60's is almost always going to be retconned to keep the characters young e.g. spiderman. A little off topic but retconning spidey to keep him young doesnt make sense when a few years down the line they give him a sidekick thrusting him into a paternal role

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@UnderDogs_OverBoard said:

Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

IKR!!?? They sure took the spotlight on Storm and BP's wedding cover with two hardcore mean-mugs. LOL

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@Omega-Man said:

But thats the thing when it comes to comicbook marriages it's NOT because stories can't move on since they are married but really the writers lack any kind of creative writing or challenges. Think how different the challenges would be if Peter parker and MJ would have to endure if they had children? and balancing a job as well as taking care of his boy or girl, if he had to pick his kid up from school? that sets difference challenges for a hero out of costume, it's not a question of saying oh well they are showing age. REALLY? Say that about Batman who has had Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne his current Robin and son...all of them are his adopted sons (Apart from Damian) has it shown him age? no not at all and this is from the after effects of a reboot if it was showing age then why is Damian Robin? why does Tim and Jason exist? if anything it shows how uncreative writers are because if that was the status quo Dick would be Robin again and not Nightwing. so I'm sorry but anyone who says it shows age I laugh at your logic, since it's proven wrong.

As for One more day, ok...this is what I have to say about One more day not the after effects, it was Lazy. Poorly written and could have easily have been a story that was meaningful and tragic. How? lets say how it is now it pretty much shows that Peter loves his Aunt more than his wife sure MJ made him at the end of it but thats a poor excuse plus none of the greatest minds in the Marvel U could heal a bullet wound??? ok that is stupid writing. If they shot MJ and she was dying and Spidey had to make that deal it would have been better than Aunt may why? he had to sacrifice his happiness and Marriage with the woman he loves to save her life that would have been a much stronger story and a tragic one at that. Thats if there was no way out of saying no to their separation

Also Hardly true that most Marriages don't work like stated here Sue and Reed are still together but also if you want a DC example is that Animal Man is still married and has kids still also, it's not the characters its the writers who are often more than not uncreative and don't think things through.

But some marriages are just awful, Black Canary and Green Arrow being one of them since even I think Canary is much too good for that pompus windbag even though I still love pre 52 Canary over her current counter part in the new 52.

Overall I'm saying is that writers make bad choice and bad stories there are good stories and proof that marriage and having kids can work for a superhero Reed and Sue (Marvel) and also Buddy and Ellen (DC)

Thats's all I'm Saying.

I agree with everything here!!
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Spider Man's marriage was working fine..just so you all know...

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Couple things here: First the whole Spidey/MJ thing...yeah, I hated the way they retconned it all, not to mention him taking of his mask to the world...seems funny that they don't want Spidey to be married because it ruins his image/characterization yet they're going to bring on a side-kick: Alpha. I think it would have been better for MJ to have been killed and Peter Parker seemingly killed (to the public) and have him return with different name and costume...but...Storm and BP - can't say how happy their marriage is annulled. They were thrown together, because they were both black - while they had back story (retconned with the newest version) there was absolutely no momentum to their relationship...Storm of Forge was an AWESOME couple...but of course, it ran it's emotional content due to Chris Claremont being in the height of his career, Forge was a great character, its too bad the current X-editors/writers didn't know what to do with him. Sue and Reed - I guess they're the stable end of things...but they've had their ups and downs. Ultimately look at marriage statistics and then add in what the hero's go through, and it stands to reason many don't last...

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At least the Richards know how to keep it together.

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But thats the thing when it comes to comicbook marriages it's NOT because stories can't move on since they are married but really the writers lack any kind of creative writing or challenges. Think how different the challenges would be if Peter parker and MJ would have to endure if they had children? and balancing a job as well as taking care of his boy or girl, if he had to pick his kid up from school? that sets difference challenges for a hero out of costume, it's not a question of saying oh well they are showing age. REALLY? Say that about Batman who has had Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne his current Robin and son...all of them are his adopted sons (Apart from Damian) has it shown him age? no not at all and this is from the after effects of a reboot if it was showing age then why is Damian Robin? why does Tim and Jason exist? if anything it shows how uncreative writers are because if that was the status quo Dick would be Robin again and not Nightwing. so I'm sorry but anyone who says it shows age I laugh at your logic, since it's proven wrong.

As for One more day, ok...this is what I have to say about One more day not the after effects, it was Lazy. Poorly written and could have easily have been a story that was meaningful and tragic. How? lets say how it is now it pretty much shows that Peter loves his Aunt more than his wife sure MJ made him at the end of it but thats a poor excuse plus none of the greatest minds in the Marvel U could heal a bullet wound??? ok that is stupid writing. If they shot MJ and she was dying and Spidey had to make that deal it would have been better than Aunt may why? he had to sacrifice his happiness and Marriage with the woman he loves to save her life that would have been a much stronger story and a tragic one at that. Thats if there was no way out of saying no to their separation

Also Hardly true that most Marriages don't work like stated here Sue and Reed are still together but also if you want a DC example is that Animal Man is still married and has kids still also, it's not the characters its the writers who are often more than not uncreative and don't think things through.

But some marriages are just awful, Black Canary and Green Arrow being one of them since even I think Canary is much too good for that pompus windbag even though I still love pre 52 Canary over her current counter part in the new 52.

Overall I'm saying is that writers make bad choice and bad stories there are good stories and proof that marriage and having kids can work for a superhero Reed and Sue (Marvel) and also Buddy and Ellen (DC)

Thats's all I'm Saying.

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Superman and Lois Lane will be together again. Despite the editorial board's current opinion, the ARE "inevitable."

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@Azjenco said:

To be truthful, I'm not all heartbroken about Clark and Lois. In my heart I've always wanted him and Diana. To me a relationship between Superman and Wonder Woman just feels right and they fit together.

Since the New 52 I feel it might happen. I know it probably won't happen, but I can only hope.

I agree!

Also, I think marriages don't work in comics because time needs to move forward for important moments to happen. Characters that have children and are raising families can't occupy the 'no time' zone that many other characters inhabit. Time becomes a factor. Franklin is obviously a young child now, which means that Reed and Sue are at least a few years older than when he was born, which somewhat dates both (for the better IMO). This is one of the reasons so many of the kids in comics have their aging processes accelerated or come from alternate timelines/dimensions - the idea of a normal kid is just annoying to drama-prone writers. Also relationships take a lot of work and are rarely solved with dramatic splash pages. Most writers don't know how to handle the concept of adult relationships so as soon as characters seem too comfortable, writers want to break them up or challenge them in order to make them exciting again. A lot of missed opportunities here.

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One More Day was the point when I stopped seeing any point in reading Spidey books anymore. That was a travesty. Blame Quesada if you must but let's not forget Strazcynski's involvement in that farce (depsite his recent cowardly, face-saving attempts at distancing himself from it all by implying that ediotrs made him do it). I'll never read a JMS book now. I once read someone describe Spider-Man as Marvel's 'Mickey Mouse' character. I think that metamorphosis began with One More Day. One more thing I would say is that a happy marriage is usually followed by parenthood. Sometimes the publishers aren't prepared to go that far. Shame really. I'd love to see Peter Parker pushing a pram. Really.

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To be truthful, I'm not all heartbroken about Clark and Lois. In my heart I've always wanted him and Diana. To me a relationship between Superman and Wonder Woman just feels right and they fit together.

Since the New 52 I feel it might happen. I know it probably won't happen, but I can only hope.

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Superman gets married to move forward the medium. Superman's marriage was retconned to move forward the medium. Anybody else see a problem here?

One of these moves did not move the medium forward, and I, for one, have no doubt that is it was the latter.

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@jaredbright said:

@ssejllenrad:

I would of said the 'lowest point of comic books', but it's essentially the same thought.

Yup

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@hyenascar:

Also re-read One Moment In Time. That's where we find out what MJ whispered to Mephisto: "I know Peter. He will never make this deal with you. Ever--unless I ask him to."

I interpret this as MJ pushing Peter to do something he wouldn't have otherwise done.

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I really love it when characters do get married or at least stay together for a long time, but I guess the issue with marriage in comics is that sometimes it's viewed as a closure for the characters.  Since, these are characters who have been around for years, I guess the editors viewed it as being the end of the story for the characters.  Like for example, the whole One More Day fiasco where Spiderman makes a deal with Mephisto to break up with Mary Jane. While I personally found that story line to be forced and not needed, I guess I can see why the Marvel staff decided to do that because sometimes writers would have a hard time trying to make stories about a married couple in superhero comics because there probably wouldn't be much to do with a married couple.
 
However, I think there could be a lot to be done with a married couple in comics.  Reed Richards and Sue Storm's marriage had lasted for a long time and the writers were able to do interesting things with their marriage while both of them fight villains together.  Sure in real life, sometimes marriages don't work out, but if comics are meant to be escapist reads, then there should be some stories where marriages are successful and still be able to come up with interesting stories around the couple.

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@EvilAndy:

I just re read it yesterday. Go re-read it yourself, and try to seperate yourself from being a spidey fan. Tell me if you think the same thing then. If you still think the same thing when you read it, well all I can say is we have different views of what happened.

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i wish they would put peter parker & mary jane back together. well, at least luke cage and jessica jones are still together i like their marriage because its seems so real and natural. i hope marvel keep them together because they are one my favorite couple besides peter parker and mj.

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@Billy Batson said:

Wally West and Linda West was one of the best marriages of all time! All time!
And they had no problems.
BB

Except when she wanted to talk about the relationship and ninjas attacked....

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@hyenascar: Sure puts Civil War into a whole new light

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@VyseCarma said:

@sethysquare: I'm sorry I have to make the joke since no one else has: So its not a secret fetish to marry your aunt? Its and open one?

I have no idea what you're talking about. But looking at where you're going, I probably don't wanna know. I don't wanna be scarred for life. LOL

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@Shoe:

Wow you totally missed the point where she said that she didn't feel she had a choice. Peter would never have forgiven her. He would have held it against her if she didnt accept it. He didn't want to be the one to make the choice, so he let her make it for him to assuage him of his guilt for choosing an old lady who was ok with dieing over his wife and ultimately his children. So he wad cowardly and selfish. So what was her choice, not taking the deal , having peter blame her and never forgive her for aunt may, or allow Mephisto to take their marriage. So essentialyl MJ was braver and stronger than Peter. Yey for heroes.

I think you missed the point. MJ knew Peter wouldn't make a deal with the devil, but also knew he would feel responsible for Aunt May's death and given the guilt he already felt over Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy it would tear him apart, so she stepped in. He didn't let her do anything, he trusted MJ and she pushed him to make the wrong choice.

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@Webjaker: Very happy for them. Under/Over 6 issues of their happiness before their retcon.

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@UnderDogs_OverBoard said:

Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

Yeah it looks more like their wedding ...?

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@sethysquare: I'm sorry I have to make the joke since no one else has: So its not a secret fetish to marry your aunt? Its and open one?

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I still wish MJ and Spidey were married still

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@Shoe:

Wow you totally missed the point where she said that she didn't feel she had a choice. Peter would never have forgiven her. He would have held it against her if she didnt accept it. He didn't want to be the one to make the choice, so he let her make it for him to assuage him of his guilt for choosing an old lady who was ok with dieing over his wife and ultimately his children. So he wad cowardly and selfish. So what was her choice, not taking the deal , having peter blame her and never forgive her for aunt may, or allow Mephisto to take their marriage. So essentialyl MJ was braver and stronger than Peter. Yey for heroes.

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Without getting too deep into this, lets try to be analytical.

Most people on here are displacing their values onto these fictional characters. Believe me when I say, this is fine, we all want to read something that we can relate to. However, keep in mind all the artists, editors, writers, etc, have their own thoughts on who should be with who and for how long. If you asked the list of people in here who should be with Spider-man, I assure you we would have a lot of different answers.

Secondly as far as writing goes, OMD was heartbreaking and felt a like a cheap ploy by our man Q. However in the land of retcon and people coming back from the dead, it's one of the only things in recent comic big 2 that feels like its going to last. How messed up is it that this is only true component of impact that will last. Quesada might be the heel, but he might have had a point. In all fairy tells the story ends when the two marry. Marriage is considered the winding done of a life, and the ending of the adventure. The higher read stories are the pursuit of love, not what happens after. So for the point of view in charge of a comic it makes sense.

Thirdly superheroes, much like hollywood actors, are the some best looking people. Marriage is already dipping far below the 50% mark, and i doubt in can be calculated in hollywood. I feel that superheroes would be intrigued by the danger at some level or they would not be in the job that are involved with. The intrigue and danger, along with all the beautiful people would be like a hormone cocktail. Just like Hollywood our populous would be following which superhero is with which superhero in all the news rags while we wait in line at the grocery store.

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@Eyz said:

@Jekylhyde14 said:

Marriage is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and compromise.

A never-ending war on crime is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and leaves little to no room for compromise when done right.

When a character takes on both then something has to give. For instance, in the Black Panther/Storm example, both heroes chose their greater heroic responsibility over their promise to each other. T'Challa ia a king and a hero who fights for his people so he chose to stand by his country rather than his wife. Storm is a mutant hero of a dying species so she chose to back her team's corner. For them to make their marriage work, they would have had to compromise their greater ideals which was not possible for them as heroes or people. The marriage was sacrificed as a result.

Marriage is also hard to keep interesting to readers after a while. It gets harder the more popular a character is and the more exposure they have. Romance is a big draw for reading a series and continuing to read it. After a marriage, the romance angle feels resolved unless you a) throw an affair into the mix or b) throw marital problems into the mix. Unfortunately, happy couples working well together don't make for good drama. You find excitement in the chase, in the hurdles, in unrequited love, or doomed romance. You don't find it in watching husband and wife choose which color to paint the den. The two marriages in comics I know that work are Animal Man and Ellen and Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman. Animal Man's marriage works, mostly, because we don't see him as much as other heroes and the drama in his marriage is found in the fact that his family is always in danger. Mr. and Mrs. Richards have always worked because they feel like "Dad" and Mom" and they have Ben and Johnny chasing girls and keeping the romance angle alive for them (and still there's Namor...).

The hard truth is, a lot of marriages just don't work. If you're married, happy, and still excited about the relationship then congratulations. You're probably in the minority these days. Many married couples I know got divorced, are on the rocks, or only lasted for some really cynical reason (usually money or just plain fatigue). It only makes sense that so many comic book marriages fail.

The thing is..most marriages in comics end up just... retconned!

Not handled like actual adults, like a separation, but over-the-top reimagined/retconned out of the series. (did Spidey really need a deal with Mephisto to be single again like Joe Quesada wanted? not really...)

Sure. However, my point was to explain why comic book marriages generally don't work. I wasn't trying to defend poorly executed retcons. So far as the OMD thing goes: Yes, I agree it was a terrible story and a poor way to change the status quo in Spider-Man. If it had been up to me then I probably just would have taken them through the divorce process in a mature, dramatic way. What we got was OMD. Though I didn't like the story, I still agree that the marriage needed to go and, in my opinion, Dan Slott's Spider-Man has been the better for it. So, no, nothing really excuses a sloppy retcon like OMD but I maintain that comic book marriages don't work for legitimate reasons like the points I made above.

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@v1z4rd said:

for spidey there is a new chance...

ms. marvel is a super hero stronger in any way than him and their stuff together isnt forced

i just finished ASM #10 and they have a chance to import some freshness in avengers too

I really like the idea Spidey and Ms. Marvel together. They seem like they'd be a perfect fit. I really hope they get together in the comics soon.

@UnderDogs_OverBoard said:

Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

There's actually an alternate universe where Marvel's Civil war didn't happen, cause that universe Captain America and Ironman (or would it be Iron woman, since it was a female Tony?) got married.

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I want to see Emma and Scott get married. My goodness.