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Off My Mind: Marriage in Comic Books

Lots of things are possible in superhero comics but maintaining a marriage is a difficult task.

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When it comes to superhero comic books, there's one aspect to them that most refuse to acknowledge. Comic books are like soap operas. Besides heroes getting new costumes and punching out supervillains, romance always pops up in the pages. Entire story arcs have revolved around who a character will choose to be their significant other or whether or not a character will ever get to hook up with anyone.

As time and stories progress, some characters manage to develop a strong relationship. The characters may date for a while, have the occasional fight or break up and then get back together, stronger and more in love than ever. With the evolving nature sometimes seen in comics, the inevitable next step is marriage.

A wedding in comic books, with major characters, can be a big deal. It's a way to celebrate a happy moment in the lives of the characters we've grown fond of. It's always a way to draw attention to a title and be mentioned in other forms of media. The problem is, the marriages never seem to last. Once the wedding happens, the honeymoon is often a relatively short time. Why is it most comic book characters can't maintain a marriage?

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Storm and Black Panther

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This is the most recent couple that has been facing problems. When Ororo and T'Challa married, it was a happy time. It may not have been plastered all over the news but it gave two longstanding characters a chance at happiness. Storm rarely has had the opportunity to experience love. When she first joined the X-Men, she was written as the naive newcomer that often walked around the mansion naked. Rarely was she given the chance to experience love. When she and Forge finally got together, it was his invention that caused her mutant powers to be removed. That put a bit of a kink in their relationship.

Allowing Storm and Black Panther gave the two a bit of an evolution. It let them mature in a way that doesn't often happen. With his position in Wakanda, it opened the door for new sorts of stories for Storm. Unfortunately those stories were few and never really went anywhere. Storm soon found herself back with the X-Men and Black Panther spent some alone time in Hell's Kitchen. Many questioned what was happening with their marriage and what was the point of it.

In last week's AVENGERS VS. X-MEN #9, we now know the answer to what will happen with the marriage. It's been annulled. At least they were allowed to dissolve the wedding properly and no retcons or reboots were necessary.

Storm and Black Panther's wedding isn't the only one to be dissolved.

DC Comics Marriages

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With DC's New 52, we also saw the end of some marriages. Superman and Lois Lane, Barry Allen and Iris West and Green Arrow and Black Canary all were married but that is no longer the case (although Ollie and Dinah's marriage ended just before the New 52 began).

Clark and Lois' marriage was a big deal when it happened. With the desire to make the comics fresh and exciting again, DC has made some strides forwards in some areas but also taken steps backwards in others. Sure we get to see the whole romance build up again and it shouldn't be a big deal but their marriage lasted over fifteen years for readers. Now it's as if it never happened.

Barry and Iris may end up back together eventually (if things don't work out between Barry and Patty or if Barry ever gets around to saving Iris, who is trapped in the Speed Force). With them not being married now, what does that mean for their children in the future. We still don't know if Bart Allen is actually related to Barry. Yes, we've had clues that he's from the same future he was pre-New 52, but who knows if that will be changed somehow as other minor details have in the New 52.

Marvel Marriages

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Spider-Man and Mary Jane's wedding was wiped away as a result of One More Day. It was felt that readers couldn't relate to a Spider-Man married to a supermodel. Peter Parker always had girl problems. Unfortunately, it did seem as if some writers weren't sure what to do with the marriage. Mary Jane was often left waiting around at home. There was also her kidnapping and supposed death along with their separation. It seemed that having Mephisto erase their marriage was more acceptable than the two actually getting a divorce.

There are other marriages that didn't work out in the Marvel Universe. Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, Daredevil and Milla Donovan, Hulk and Betty Banner, Cyclops and Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch and Vision, Quicksilver and Crystal and Johnny Storm and Lyja (well, she was a Skrull impersonating Alicia Masters so you can't blame him for wanting to end the marriage).

There are plenty others as well.

What comic books are telling us is it's possible for individuals to gain or possess incredible superpowers. Heroes can come back from the dead after sacrificing their lives. Life exists on other planets and in other dimensions. What doesn't seem to exist is strong and long lasting marriages. It might be that it's believed readers can't relate to them. That's hard for me to understand as I've been married for a while and still am reading comics. I'm sure many of the older readers that have continued to follow the adventures of their favorite heroes are also married. Why is it so hard to accept the idea that two characters could be in love and want to become a couple? Does being married get in the way of fighting supervillains?

At least there are still some marriages lasting. Reed and Sue Richards have been married since 1973. Let's hope we can see some marriages actually happen and last in comics. It's hard enough for those younger readers whose actual parents go through rough patches. Comics are often seen as a way to escape and to become immersed in the adventures. There's no need to see comic book characters go through the same situation too many do in the real world.

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I always thought Parker and MJ marriage would reconnect, they had ups and downs when villains were trying to kill them especially during the superhero CIVIL WAR. to save the ones he cares about there is always a sacrifice. I'm glad to T'Challa ans Storm are still together, I'm still wondering when they will have their firstborn child

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OMD = The lowest point of Spidey writing...

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@Emperormeister734 said:

I always thought Parker and MJ marriage would reconnect, they had ups and downs when villains were trying to kill them especially during the superhero CIVIL WAR. to save the ones he cares about there is always a sacrifice. I'm glad to T'Challa ans Storm are still together, I'm still wondering when they will have their firstborn child

I'm not sure if they are. In the last issue of AvX, Black Panther revealed that he had annulled his marriage to Storm.

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@cuddles666: Are you kidding me? well they didn't fight each other since the series have they?

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Yes, superhero marriages(like those in real life involving high risk occupations like the armed forces, law enforcement or emergency services like ambulance or firefighters) are hard to keep, esp when one partner is a "normal" person( usu the wife). "Sorry i had to miss Thanksgiving/Christmas/Fourth of July honey- I had to save the world/galaxy/cosmos!"

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@Emperormeister734 said:

@cuddles666: Are you kidding me? well they didn't fight each other since the series have they?

Don't know.

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Spider-man getting with MJ, supermodel sometimes-actress, isn't too unreasonable when you look at every other woman he's ever been with.

Then again, she's boring as a wife.

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Peter and MJ will never reconnect as long as Quesada has any authority at Marvel. He actually thinks One More Day was a good thing. Divorce, annulment, or just killing off MJ would have been better, still controversial, but at least it it would have moved the Spider-Man saga forward, instead we get this cheap and gutless retcon.

OMD was an abomination.

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Wally and Iris? Incest?

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@InnerVenom123 said:

Spider-man getting with MJ, supermodel sometimes-actress, isn't too unreasonable when you look at every other woman he's ever been with.

Then again, she's boring as a wife.

Is it really so unreasonable if they knew each other before she became a supermodel and actress? She was literally the girl next door and they shared a lot growing up. And if she's boring that's just bad writing.

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@EvilAndy said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Spider-man getting with MJ, supermodel sometimes-actress, isn't too unreasonable when you look at every other woman he's ever been with.

Then again, she's boring as a wife.

Is it really so unreasonable if they knew each other before she became a supermodel and actress? She was literally the girl next door and they shared a lot growing up. And if she's boring that's just bad writing.

... I said it WASN'T unreasonable.

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@InnerVenom123 said:

@EvilAndy said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

Spider-man getting with MJ, supermodel sometimes-actress, isn't too unreasonable when you look at every other woman he's ever been with.

Then again, she's boring as a wife.

Is it really so unreasonable if they knew each other before she became a supermodel and actress? She was literally the girl next door and they shared a lot growing up. And if she's boring that's just bad writing.

... I said it WASN'T unreasonable.

oops, my bad

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Marriage is a real life aspect and deemed too boring for the writers in their escapist fiction.

@Emperormeister734: just for you to see it with your own eyes

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Marriage is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and compromise.

A never-ending war on crime is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and leaves little to no room for compromise when done right.

When a character takes on both then something has to give. For instance, in the Black Panther/Storm example, both heroes chose their greater heroic responsibility over their promise to each other. T'Challa ia a king and a hero who fights for his people so he chose to stand by his country rather than his wife. Storm is a mutant hero of a dying species so she chose to back her team's corner. For them to make their marriage work, they would have had to compromise their greater ideals which was not possible for them as heroes or people. The marriage was sacrificed as a result.

Marriage is also hard to keep interesting to readers after a while. It gets harder the more popular a character is and the more exposure they have. Romance is a big draw for reading a series and continuing to read it. After a marriage, the romance angle feels resolved unless you a) throw an affair into the mix or b) throw marital problems into the mix. Unfortunately, happy couples working well together don't make for good drama. You find excitement in the chase, in the hurdles, in unrequited love, or doomed romance. You don't find it in watching husband and wife choose which color to paint the den. The two marriages in comics I know that work are Animal Man and Ellen and Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman. Animal Man's marriage works, mostly, because we don't see him as much as other heroes and the drama in his marriage is found in the fact that his family is always in danger. Mr. and Mrs. Richards have always worked because they feel like "Dad" and Mom" and they have Ben and Johnny chasing girls and keeping the romance angle alive for them (and still there's Namor...).

The hard truth is, a lot of marriages just don't work. If you're married, happy, and still excited about the relationship then congratulations. You're probably in the minority these days. Many married couples I know got divorced, are on the rocks, or only lasted for some really cynical reason (usually money or just plain fatigue). It only makes sense that so many comic book marriages fail.

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I've read in another article that it is hard to write about happily married couples. Basically, there are no storylines, no drama, to shake the foundations. I'm not saying that the writer of the article is right but I do understand the point. I think it would be harder for any writer not to want to create storylines by ending/creating couples, inserting tension/jealousies/paranoia/etc and work through how the comic couple react. It is popular enough for it to happen over and over again.. I guess the challenge is to avoid this and still keep the relationship relevant, positive and evolving -- Just like any other relationship in the real world, but with a comic world twist... and that is the kicker...

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for spidey there is a new chance...

ms. marvel is a super hero stronger in any way than him and their stuff together isnt forced

i just finished ASM #10 and they have a chance to import some freshness in avengers too

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@ssejllenrad:

I would of said the 'lowest point of comic books', but it's essentially the same thought.

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Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

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@sethysquare said:

Wally and Iris? Incest?

...what.
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Wally West and Linda West was one of the best marriages of all time! All time!
And they had no problems.
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How many of us would read a date night comic where sue and reed go out and keep there marriage fresh by escaping the baxter building?

why O.T but who's the fowler girl in the pic great rack.

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It should have been Storm and Wolverine in the first place.

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First Spider-Man and MJ now Black Panther and Storm...I ashamed of you Marvel, ashamed.

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@Emperormeister734: Sorry to tell you this but you need to read the latest issue of AvsXmen and you'll find out what is going on between Storm and T'Challa.
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@UnderDogs_OverBoard said:

Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...
Cap And Tony... A tale of Budding love...

Cap and Iron-Man looked like they are about to kiss right now...

just wait for a couple secs

ha I was thinking the same thing. that was during Civil War right?

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I just think certain characters should never marry... as for others it's ok

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@sethysquare:

Good thing they aren't blood-related then.
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Vision and Scarlet Witch can still go somewhere.

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@Jekylhyde14 said:

Marriage is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and compromise.

A never-ending war on crime is a commitment. It requires dedication, sacrifice, time, and leaves little to no room for compromise when done right.

When a character takes on both then something has to give. For instance, in the Black Panther/Storm example, both heroes chose their greater heroic responsibility over their promise to each other. T'Challa ia a king and a hero who fights for his people so he chose to stand by his country rather than his wife. Storm is a mutant hero of a dying species so she chose to back her team's corner. For them to make their marriage work, they would have had to compromise their greater ideals which was not possible for them as heroes or people. The marriage was sacrificed as a result.

Marriage is also hard to keep interesting to readers after a while. It gets harder the more popular a character is and the more exposure they have. Romance is a big draw for reading a series and continuing to read it. After a marriage, the romance angle feels resolved unless you a) throw an affair into the mix or b) throw marital problems into the mix. Unfortunately, happy couples working well together don't make for good drama. You find excitement in the chase, in the hurdles, in unrequited love, or doomed romance. You don't find it in watching husband and wife choose which color to paint the den. The two marriages in comics I know that work are Animal Man and Ellen and Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman. Animal Man's marriage works, mostly, because we don't see him as much as other heroes and the drama in his marriage is found in the fact that his family is always in danger. Mr. and Mrs. Richards have always worked because they feel like "Dad" and Mom" and they have Ben and Johnny chasing girls and keeping the romance angle alive for them (and still there's Namor...).

The hard truth is, a lot of marriages just don't work. If you're married, happy, and still excited about the relationship then congratulations. You're probably in the minority these days. Many married couples I know got divorced, are on the rocks, or only lasted for some really cynical reason (usually money or just plain fatigue). It only makes sense that so many comic book marriages fail.

The thing is..most marriages in comics end up just... retconned!

Not handled like actual adults, like a separation, but over-the-top reimagined/retconned out of the series. (did Spidey really need a deal with Mephisto to be single again like Joe Quesada wanted? not really...)

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@Billy Batson said:

@sethysquare:

Good thing they aren't blood-related then.
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Face Palm. They are.

Iris West is Wally West's aunt.

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@sethysquare said:

@Billy Batson said:

@sethysquare:

Good thing they aren't blood-related then.
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Face Palm. They are.

Iris West is Wally West's aunt.

No sh!t. Everybody knows this. Iris was adopted.
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@Billy Batson said:

@sethysquare said:

@Billy Batson said:

@sethysquare:

Good thing they aren't blood-related then.
BB

Face Palm. They are.

Iris West is Wally West's aunt.

No sh!t. Everybody knows this. Iris was adopted.
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Oh. I did not know that.

LOL. Okay, well, its still weird to marry your aunt, adopted or not.

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@sethysquare:

Then why bother bringing it up in the first place?
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This has always been one of my biggest problems with comics. It's #2 on my "Will always infuriate me" list.

Most companies apparently hate marriage so much, they'll dissolve it by either having the husband turn into a beater or make a deal with a demonic being!?! Granted, most real couples don't necessarily get married, that's up to them, but if the comic people are going to have their characters get married at all, then try and make some of the marriages work!! At least Aquaman and Mera have weathered thru the decades and are still together. Wy can't we have cool marriages like them?

Although, I'm actually glad Storm and Black Panther broke up. Their marriage felt too forced and it felt like Marvel was just pairing up the token black heroes. Strom and Panther barely had a relationship up to their marriage anyway. I will always want Storm and Wolverine to become a couple, that's just me.

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@Billy Batson: Because there was a typo in the article that was corrected after I brought it up.

Besides, it is still weird to marry your aunt. I don't have a secret fetish for that.

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@Billy Batson: Because there was a typo in the article that was corrected after I brought it up.

Besides, it is still weird to marry your aunt. I don't have a secret fetish for that.

Oh, LOL. G-Man has always been a joker.
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@Billy Batson: lol

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@Billy Batson said:

Wally West and Iris West was one of the best marriages of all time! All time!
And they had no problems.
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Hold up, didn't Barry marry Iris? I thought Wally married Linda...

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they shouldnt marry them.. marriage has already a bad reputation we dont need our favorite heroes adding to that bad reputation of marriage..

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marriage is real thing and normal and if you cant write it you cant write...which would explain that alot of comic book writers dont touch they dont have the skill...cause they 2 things that dont write in Comics...SEX & children which real things and somethings thats some fanboys dont like cause they dont have them sex or children

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Its only 2 marriages in comics that matter to me; ma and pa Kent and uncle Ben and aunt May.

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The hard truth is that marriage is a real life issue. The faithfulness in the vows made with your spouse gives a greater revelation of who you are as a person. The real reason characters can not stay married has nothing to do with the heroes in and of themselves but more so the writers. The writer is the author of the heroes life. If the writers interpretation of marriage is boring and somewhat limited (and or) simply do not believe in the working commitment of marriage, it will reflect on the hero from writer to writer. It is truly sad when we society says that marriage is the end of a romance. If you've ever been a father of a little girl (or son) your prayer is that they would find someone that would love them and care for them unconditionally for the rest of there lives, just like the way that you love them. The real truth is there are some marriages that do work. By saying that (all fail) we're saying that comics are not a venue for the married man or woman. Comics are not just bias towards marriage, there bias towards relationships period. God what would I give to see a strong superhero woman date a ordinary man!! Why not? Plenty of superhero man date ordinary women. I am a black man married to a black woman, working in the dangerous field of law enforcement. So needless to say that Black Panther and Storm's marriage, as ridiculous and it seems, meant a little something for me just because I've never seen two black couples married in comics. Hell, I've never seen two black couples date in comics. Truthfully speaking, we barely see two interracial couples date. I had better chances of seeing a aliens marry. And God forbid if you are a woman reading comics. Not only do you have a limited number of books to choose from, woman simply can not be married at the risk of losing there sex appeal. (Tell that to your daughter) For the married couples the best thing we got going is Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. Do not get me wrong, Hawkeye and Gambit are my favorite characters (Black Panther too), but there is nothing more beautiful then to see one of America's heroes (or any nation for the matter) the firemen, police, deputy sheriff, or soldiers come home to the embraced arms of his spouse and child after a long dangerous mission.

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@Billy Batson said:

Wally West and Linda West was one of the best marriages of all time! All time!
And they had no problems.
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And DC still not using Wally and Linda or their twins....while breaking their most iconic couple of Lois and Clark. That tells you a whole lot of the outlook on ''happy marriages'' ...

Personally , I blame the 'modern' outlook because these days, Marriages are like gums, you taste a little but when it lose it's taste, you throw it away.

The divorce rate actually makes me wonder WHY people get married in this day and age if they are not ready or commited ? Young mistakes perhaps ?

I am 21 and my parents ( after 25-30 years ) together still. Sure they have their ups and downs but they get over it in a way.

Now this is the reality part. As for Comics, I can understand ,TO SOME DEGREE , that writers would fear that the couple might get stale or they want to draw ''drama'' of romance into the stories.

BUT when you make it so frequently and change couples or pass them on to the next guy like a disease , well chances are I won't care about ANY of that guy's relationships again. That is how I feel lately, I see a couple and say '' well I give them 10 chapters MAX ! '' and %90 I am right...hell most of them are lucky if they survive that long.

It seems like 'screwing around' is in the resume of Superheroes. I mean even JOKER had more stable relationship with Harley than ANY other character I know.

Reed and Sue ( with Namor butting his smug and ...I guess handsome ?.. head from time to time ) might be the only marriage that lasted as long as it should and still going and you know what ? I am okay with it because they are actually have a natural lifespan with kids and such... it feels grounded and engaging. You can actually invest and care about their family and not just wonder '' when will they broke up and start sleeping around ! ''

So yea, my problem is the writers mostly trying to make every character to be '' playboys '' or ''playgirls''. When that is the focus, guys like Tony Stark , Bruce Wayne lose their characteristic of Playboy because it has become a normal, common, UNinteresting perk. Hell one might think they get together once in a while and talk '' Who you've been with this week ? Oh her ? I've been there man, was nice but meh I moved on after a month ! Can't tie this tights down ! ''

I am sorry if I sound bitter over this but I can't seem to feel any Sincerity about relationships in comics ( or mostly in real world ). It just feels superficial and meaningless...just there to cover a spot , gather some cheap attention and drop it in the next story arc because hell who needs a ''clingy relationship'' that ,god forbid , more than a year !

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@Miss_Garrick said:

This has always been one of my biggest problems with comics. It's #2 on my "Will always infuriate me" list.

Most companies apparently hate marriage so much, they'll dissolve it by either having the husband turn into a beater or make a deal with a demonic being!?! Granted, most real couples don't necessarily get married, that's up to them, but if the comic people are going to have their characters get married at all, then try and make some of the marriages work!! At least Aquaman and Mera have weathered thru the decades and are still together. Wy can't we have cool marriages like them?

Although, I'm actually glad Storm and Black Panther broke up. Their marriage felt too forced and it felt like Marvel was just pairing up the token black heroes. Strom and Panther barely had a relationship up to their marriage anyway. I will always want Storm and Wolverine to become a couple, that's just me.

me too! : )

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Marriage is not just about love. It can be use gain of power. Iron King and Iron Queen are an example of that and it is an open marriage and there is no love. There more things can be use in marriage other than just shipping.

I feel they are afraid to be a sitcom but maybe they should take notes from them.

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The only marriage that will probably last forever is Reed and Sue's marriage. I'd have thought all the crap Reed has done Sue would've divorced him by now

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I never like the idea of breaking marriage up especially MJ and Pete screw up Fast Q!! That marriage was good for Pete. Now T'Challa and Storm. It sucks.

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Bunch of punk moves in my opinion

Why is the only marriage in comics that works is one designed to? What is Sue without Reed and the boys? I understand drama is great and seeing characters go through pain is interesting but at the same time why not have marriage survive that? Why not have Storm and Black Panther work through their problems or give them some marital problems and have them work through it so that the both of them come out stronger because of it? I think the comic industry as a whole needs to work on issues like these cause this is just a stupid practice to treat marriage as a mini series/over-the-summer story arc rather than what the idea of marriage is....a Marathon not a sprint.

That and the kids that read this, regardless of how you want to spin it, will treat the institution as they been informed by society aka everyone but there parents (cause most won't look at this issue as an issue until it's too late) and follow that example.

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Aunt May and Jameson Senior, Absorbing Man and Titania, are great couples too.

Are Steve Rogers and Sharon Carter married

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@EvilAndy said:

Peter and MJ will never reconnect as long as Quesada has any authority at Marvel. He actually thinks One More Day was a good thing. Divorce, annulment, or just killing off MJ would have been better, still controversial, but at least it it would have moved the Spider-Man saga forward, instead we get this cheap and gutless retcon.

OMD was an abomination.

I agree, Quesada is a moron and a horrible artist. After One More Day came out, I read an article where Quesada said that he didn't want Peter and MJ to get divorced or separated because that would imply that they were giving up. That pissed me off beyond belief.