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Off My Mind: Is Spider-Man Considered a Mutant?

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What is a mutant? Depending on what comic universe you live in and who you ask, the answer could vary. Mutants and the X-Men are almost interchangeable. I've always wondered who was the first to use the phrase. Was it Charles Xavier? Did Mr. Sinister and Apocalypse use it in the 1800s? (It first appeared in a different context in a Marvel comic in 1959's Tales of Suspense #6). If you subscribe to the X-Men's thinking, a mutant is an individual born with the genetic trait, or x-gene, that allows them to develop powers naturally, usually at the time puberty hits.
 
According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, a mutant is defined as "of, relating to, or produced by mutation." Another definition is "the act or process of being altered or changed."  
 
The big question is, is Spider-Man a mutant? His powers are definitely related to and produced by a mutation. He has been altered and changed. It's time to settle this once and for all. 
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Let's think about the biggest user of the word mutant: Professor X. He may be the leading authority on genetics and mutation but he's also a big jerk. He may have been the one that coined the phrase and adopted it for his kind, but in doing so, he pretty much set up an exclusive club. He's made great strides for mutants but he's also isolated them from others with powers. It shouldn't matter if the individual had a genetic quirk that gave them powers or if it was some other wacky accident. The Fantastic Four mutated when they were hit by cosmic rays. The public doesn't dwell on that and has accepted them as heroes. Life could have been different for the X-Men all these years if he chose a different way to discuss mutants in his early speeches. Professor X was a hypocrite in keeping his mutants isolated from others that have mutated and should have focused on unifying them with those that were different.
 
Spider-Man has had his own problems over the years. Often branded as a menace, I don't recall him being accused of being a mutant. The word has become a dirty word or label in the Marvel Universe and Spider-Man doesn't need another reason for people to hate him but it's time for a change. Spider-Man is a mutant. Professor X might argue but by definition, Spider-Man should be one. He has changed on a genetic level. His body has mutated. End of story. Just because he may be an expert in his field doesn't mean Professor X can simply changed the definition of a word. This isn't saying Spider-Man should join the X-Men any time soon but let's see the word used as it was meant to be used. Spider-Man is a mutant.

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Spider-Man is a mutate not a mutant. Mutant, at least for me, is someone who was born with his powers and his powers come from an X-Gene. SM wasn't born with them and his powers come from the spider that bit him not an X-Gene.

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For me it is as simple as that:
 
He is no mutant , BUT mutaTED!

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@Om1kron:  
LMAO
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"Mutate (comics) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term Mutate refers to most non- mutant superbeings in the Marvel Comics universe. See below for other uses.

 

History

Mutate is a term used to refer to superhumans who acquired their superpowers by exposure to some mutagenic compound or energy (either accidentally or deliberately). Unlike Marvel's Mutants, Marvel's Mutates require external stimuli to acquire their powers (e.g. they weren't born with the potential to manifest powers). Unknown to nearly the entire population of the Marvel Universe, the powers and abilities of Earth's Mutates and Mutants alike are the direct result of the genetic manipulations of the Celestials in humanity's distant past, who placed dormant genes within one cross-section of humanity, and the active Deviant and Eternal genes in other cross-sections.

  • The majority of Marvel's most popular and well-known characters such as the Hulk, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and the Fantastic Four gained their powers after exposure to radiation.
  • The first group explicitly called Mutates were the Savage Land Mutates; a group of humans native to the Savage Land that were genetically altered using technology created by Magneto.
  • Wakandan Mutates were created by prolonged exposure to the Great Vibranium Mound.
  • Some Mutates were altered by exposure to the Universal Wellspring, such as Midnight's Fire, Speed Demon, Joystick, and members of the Folding Circle.
  • Some, like the Grapplers, were mutated by Power Broker, Inc.
  • Some humans have been altered by exposure to Terrigen Mists. Terrigenesis was previously used by the Inhuman race.
  • Deadpool fits into this category as he gained his healing factor from genetic alteration from the Weapon-X program (derived from Wolverine's).
  • On the island nation of Genosha, mutants who were discovered by the government were often genetically altered by the Genegineer into nearly mindless slaves known as Mutates. These Genoshan mutates were permanently sealed into "skinsuits" which recycled bodily wastes into nutrition and prevented sexual contact, and when not working were kept in a concentration camp out of sight of the public. Though these "mutates" started as mutants, they are considered mutates due to the outside alteration of their abilities; for example, the mutate Jennifer Ransome's genetic potential was for healing, but the Genegineer altered her ability to shaping rock and metal rather than flesh, and granted her superhuman strength and durability in the process.
  • A few other famous Marvel superheroes are also sometimes controversially included in the "mutate" category, e.g. Ant-Man/Giant Man (permanently mutated by prolonged absorption of "Pym particles") and Captain America (altered by the super-soldier serum, the results of which have sometimes been attributed to genetic alteration, and in other storylines have been described as a symbiotic prion-like substance or organism replicating in each cell in his body.)

Mutates differ from "normal" people in the way their bodies respond to the mutagenic influence. While most people would die from gamma radiation (The Incredible Hulk #296), people like Hulk and the Abomination become transformed instead. Exceptions occur in more controlled forms such as genetic engineering."

 -from wiki
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Spiderman is a mutant with a small m. In Marvel's universe Mutant is just a slang term for those with the X-gene. Spiderman does not have the X-gene. Thus he was not effected by the house of M.  Spider-man was also not a natural genetic mutation, his was cause from the outside by a radiated spider that somehow effected his genes.

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No, he isn't it was explained in Amazing Spiderman #302 that he is the world's greatest non-mutant superhero.

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Absolutely, positively, 100% not a mutant. Didn't you ever play Heroes Unlimited? He's a product of science and therefore an "Experiment."
 
Not born that way, not a filthy mutie.

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Mutants are born with the X-gene.  It's a very discrete label, Spider-man is definitely not a mutant.

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Sorry G-Man but Marvel says Spidey is a Mutate, not a mutant.

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Marvel has chosen to define "mutant" as someone who possesses the x-gene.  Spider-man does not, so he is not a mutant within Marvel's definition.
 
The common English and scientific definitions would clearly include Spider-Man. 

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@Beatrix said:
" The way I see it, Mutants in the Marvel Universe are a separate cousin-species to Humans, 
  (i.e. Homo Superior and Homo Sapiens ).
Whereas, Spider-man, the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Captain America etc, are Mutates, that is, they are people whom have been mutated. In the dictionary form on the word they are mutants, but they are not Mutants. The capitalised term denoting the species.  
 
So, Cyclops, Xavier, Rogue, Emma Frost, Magneto = Mutants 
and, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Daredevil = Mutates 
 
I think Beast might actually be a Mutant Mutate, to add confusion to the mix because he drank a serum that turned him blue, while his strength, intellect and dynamic posture predates that as a result of his X-Gene. 
 
Basically, Mutant should be capitalised in the same way as Human is when talking about the species, or in particular a member of the species. But not if it's a characteristic, who are most likely known as Human Mutates.   =] "
That's pretty much the way I see it.  Mutant, in the sense used in the comics, refers to a person born with the unique genetic characteristics that give them powers or express in different physiology, etc.  Mutations are what gives many characteris the powers or physical alterations that they acquire later in life.
 
Also, I'm pretty sure there was some sub-plot in the late 1990's spider-man cartoon that confirmed he wasn't a mutant.  I also remember a cross-over with the power pack around that time where he was wearing the black costume where both Spider-man and the power pack were concerned that they would be perceived as mutants even though they didn't self-identify as mutants (though I realize its nothing something as malleable as gender, their understanding of their own phsycial state lends ome credance to the argument that they are/were not mutants).
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@Chris207 said:
" If Peter Parker were born with the abilities he develops after getting bitten, he'd be a mutant. But he wasn't. He is an 'altered human' like Steve Rogers, Reed Richards and Ben Grimm for example. 
 
Peter's child however (with MJ of course...) would be a mutant, provided that s/he develops abilities.   By that definition - Franklin Richards is a mutant, Power Pack are not. "
One could argue that if he or she did have powers that he or she would not actually be a mutant.  Mutants are distinguished generally from their genetic makeup having expressed itself in a way radically different from their parents do to mutation, the 'mistakes' in genetic recording during conception, mitosis and meiosis which results in different physical expressions of genetics.
 
If spider-man's child inherits his powers, it is in fact, not a mutant, as it is only expressing the genetic material it got from its father.  It is interesting to think whether or not the genetic changes spider-man has undergone are in fact recessive or dominant genes.
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I read somewhere that mutants are born with their powers, whereas characters who mutate to get powers (e.g. Spider-Man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four) are mutates.

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Mutants have their genes altered, it´s called the X gene
But they´re born this way
When your genome is changed after your birth (by radiation for instance)
you can´t be a mutant, at least not in the Marvel universe
I wonder what are the members of Avengers Academy: are they mutants or not? Because they
were born with powers and they only manifested in puberty, like the X-Men.
So, following this line, Spider-Man isn´t a mutant, because he wasn´t born
with powers and this genes were just like any other human being

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He is a human mutate, not a mutant, per se.

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I considered him a mutant

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 i think we all go through mutations right. all form of evolutonary adaptation are a result of mutated DNA. if peter parker had children would he pass on his abilities to them? we should ask an evolutionary biologist    like richard dawkins who could do a guest video. that would be something I'd pay to see.

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@Emperor Gonzo Noir:
though i will not argue with that and yes he is very well a mutant but dident Apocalypse say he is the first NON mutant he has honerd with his attention? thats saying something when it comes from a guy like En sabah Nu. actauly i believe there is a word for those that are mutants but wer not mutated naturaly...i forgot what it was though.
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@saiyan_earthling:  Thats the one thing that anoyys me is that all mutatns (that are labeld mutants) act like just because they are different means they are in no way in hell remotly connected to the human race. its not like their aliens like skrulls or something they had human parents they are somewhat human.
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Michael Phelps is a mutant... his body is unusually efficient at processing oxygen and seems to build very little lactic acid.

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No He Was Not Born With The X Gene
 
That was easy : )

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@WarChild said:
" No He Was Not Born With The X Gene  That was easy : ) "
I think there are alot of good observations in this post that go deeper than that.
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@BigDingo said:
" @WarChild said:
" No He Was Not Born With The X Gene  That was easy : ) "
I think there are alot of good observations in this post that go deeper than that. "
They may go deeper, but that was not the question, facts are facts
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@BigDingo:

 

 
It never makes sense to bring in Real World Definitions into a World of Complete Fiction, In The Real World definition which can be found  in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary is this;
 
Our World
 ( Mutant gives you a 3-4 word definition which basically refers you to Mutation for a more descriptive meaning)


Mutation  :   a relatively permanent change in hereditary material involving either a physical change in chromosome relations or a biochemical change in the codons that make up genes; also: the process of producing a mutation  
 
 
Comic World
 
Mutant  :   A mutant is an individual who possesses a genetic trait called an X-gene that allows them to naturally developSuperhuman Powers and Abilities, Mutants are members of the subspecies Homo sapiens superior, an evolutionary progeny of Homo Sapiens and are considered the next stage in Human Evolution . mutants are born with their powers, although they typically don't manifest in the character until puberty.

 The powers of the vast majority of Marvel's Mutants are the result of genetic manipulation by the Celestials millions of years in the past.
 
So as I already said, No Spider-Man is not a Mutant... Because he was not Born With The X-Gene 
 
Is that deep enough for you : )

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Mutate =/= mutant.

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@WarChild: 
 
Definitely... much appreciated it.
 
I think in the marvel universe mutants has two meanings: 1) x-gene, simple.... 2) those born with a mutation.  In the marvel universe most 'mutants' fall within both of these categories.  However, as I mentioned earlier, I think that the children of 'mutants' with powers identical to their parents would only be a mutant in the first sense that they have an x-gene.  Not expressing dramatic genetic mutation from your genetic parents would mean that you have not actually mutated and consequently, are not a mutant.  Hence spider-man's children, if they had powers, would not be a mutate or mutants (in either sense) they would just be genetically distinct from humans generally.  They would not have the x-gene... unless spider-man's mutation (or even human genome) or Mary Jane's (or whoever he has kids with) genes would result on him or her passing on the x-gene as part of their genetic material... a possibility not explored I think by writers so far.
 
I think it would be super interesting to see spider-man's child be a mutant in the x-men sense, with powers totally unrelated to spider-man being a mutate.  Try dealing with that peter!
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@Beatrix said:
" The way I see it, Mutants in the Marvel Universe are a separate cousin-species to Humans, 
  (i.e. Homo Superior and Homo Sapiens ).
Whereas, Spider-man, the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Captain America etc, are Mutates, that is, they are people whom have been mutated. In the dictionary form on the word they are mutants, but they are not Mutants. The capitalised term denoting the species.  
 
So, Cyclops, Xavier, Rogue, Emma Frost, Magneto = Mutants 
and, Spider-man, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Daredevil = Mutates 
 
I think Beast might actually be a Mutant Mutate, to add confusion to the mix because he drank a serum that turned him blue, while his strength, intellect and dynamic posture predates that as a result of his X-Gene. 
 
Basically, Mutant should be capitalised in the same way as Human is when talking about the species, or in particular a member of the species. But not if it's a characteristic, who are most likely known as Human Mutates.   =] "
 
I definitely agree. I'm a big x-fan and I really do agree pete is a mutate. According to X-men: the essential guide, mutants have their unique attributes at birth. mutates are those who acquire such feats via twists of faith like the cosmic ray bombardment, gamma radiation, and in pete's case, the radioactive spider's bite. 
 
although, beast is a mutant because he was born with larger than normal hands and feet, and some level of strength, dexterity and agility. The blue beast form just augmented his strength and gave him a more beastly appearance.
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@defaultprophet said:
" Mutants are born with the X-gene.  It's a very discrete label, Spider-man is definitely not a mutant. "
Couldn't have put it better.
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spider-man isn't a mutant, he's a mutate, his DNA was externally altered

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nope, wasn't born with the powers.  He's mutated but a mutant.
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@Fantasgasmic: Absolutely correct.
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So by the definitions thrown around here, this would make Spider Man a mutate and Spider Girl (his daughter and possibly the new one as well) a mutant.  Am I right or did I miss something here?

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@deadpool616 said:

" spider-man isn't a mutant, he's a mutate, his DNA was externally altered "

this... 
OR...@erik said:
" Mutate =/= mutant. "
this...
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I think he is technically a mutant, but with how the word is most commonly used he didn't have traits at birth so he wouldn't be considered a mutant by other mutants.

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Try this May Parker isn't a mutant because her genetic signature and powers are the result of her fathers mutation; as opposed to a divergence from that mutation. The funny thing is that means Rachel & Nathan Summers aren't Mutants either!
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Theres a difference between genetic mutations and radioactive or cosmic mutations and stuff like that. Remember Prof. X is talking genetic mutation.

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What I want to know, is why no one in the Marvel Universe has ever assumed that Spider-man, Hulk, Daredevil, etc. to mutants! I mean what's the average person going to think when they see somewhat sticking to walls, or turn green, or a blind man hear your heart beat? It's like their biggest plot hole.

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No, Spider-Man is not a Mutant . Mutants are born with a genetic abnormality which makes them a mutant . Peter Parker was not born with this Genetic abnormality .

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he is a mutant but not in the X gene way

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@Fantasgasmic said:

This is the most glaring plot hole with the X-Men, and it's been around the whole time! It's never made sense, it's never gonna make sense, unless they get rid of the whole "humanity hates mutants because they're different" angle. There, I said it. It doesn't make sense that humans would blanketly fear and oppress mutants for having potentially dangerous powers, but to NOT fear, and in some case idolize humans who gained the SAME POWERS through other means. "Oh my god Colossus has weird skin so he's nigh-involnerable and is super strong. Boo! what a freak, let's get him... Oh look, it's the Thing who has weird skin so he's nigh-involnerable and is super strong. Yay! he's our hero."

ya, i noticed that to

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This has always bugged me about Marvel and the X-Titles specifically. I've NEVER understood why someone like Hulk wouldn't be allowed to join the X-men. Huge contradiction ..

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No he wouldn't- any more than Captain America, Daredevil or the Hulk are mutants- they were not BORN with their powers any more than the Fantastic Four are!

Terry

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In the Marvel Mainstream canon, a mutant is a person born with their powers, no freak acciedents, no lab expirements, no gods, aliens, none of the above. Born with powers, period.

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If Spider-Man has a child, and the child has powers, would it be a mutant?

How come Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are called Mutant? They weren't born that way.

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Well like the article said, by definition Spiderman is a mutant, a human with altered DNA. More human or whatever still doesn't change the fact that he is a mutant. As an extension to that, yes Hulk should be a mutant too. Also calling someone a "mutate" still pretty much equates to calling them a mutant by definition, so I don't get what kind of difference you people are trying to pull off. So in essence all superheros who got their powers through some kind of mutation is technically a mutant. What I don't get is why can't the difference end at just calling them artificial mutants and natural mutants? I mean, that's what it all comes down to after all.

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I thought in the Marvel Universe you where only considered a mutant if you are actually born with genetic powers

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Total non-mutie. Marvel used to brag about it on his covers. Check it out. Top/middle/yellow.

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Namor and Steven Rogers where the first mutants namor being born and cap being changed

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In the Marvel universe the term Mutant refers to someone with an X-gene. So Spider-man would not be a mutant, but he would be an Mutate as that is the official term for someone who gained powers unnaturally .

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A mutate is someone who was mutated.

A mutant is someone who was mutated.

Marvel really should've used the "meta human" term, or made up some other word to denote the artificially mutated.

Besides, the whole fear the muties, not the mutates thing made more sense before the whole " No more mutants " event.

Now the mutates out number the mutants by a sizable degree.