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Off My Mind: Is It Time For Storm to Lead the X-Men Once Again?

Cyclops has been making all the decisions lately. Are they the right ones?

When it comes to leading the X-Men, Cyclops is usually considered the default leader due to his years of experience. He was the leader from the beginning when Professor X gathered a bunch of children to fight mutant terrorists. Cyclops hasn't always been known to make the best decisions. He has also taken time away from the leadership role in the past.

There's no question that being a mutant today is riskier than ever. They always had to deal with the hatred and fear from the public but the threats against them have risen to deadly levels. It's not so much a matter of leading the team of mutants but trying to ensure they have a chance of survival.

Cyclops has managed to keep the team and Utopia relatively safe but would it do him some good to take a break? Is it time for the mutants to turn the reins of leadership over to someone else? Is it time for Storm to take over leadership of the X-Men once again?

== TEASER ==

This isn't meant to be a "who is better?" argument. Sometimes a change is needed. It was the Avengers that had a rotating system of chairperson to lead the team. Cyclops has been leading for years. He has kept the mutants safe for the most part but they have suffered losses under his leadership. Cyclops can be so extremely focused on leading that he often fails to see the other things and threats around him.

Storm evolved into being a natural leader. From the beginning, even the nearly feral and aggressive Wolverine showed her respect. Of course we can't forget when she last took the leadership role away from Scott in battle. Storm had lost her mutant ability and challenged Scott to a battle in the Danger Room. She managed to defeat him and Scott quit the team.

Storm eventually got her powers back but she had to lead the team through some dark periods. They survived the Mutant Massacre and even the attack from the Reavers. She knows how to talk to others and give orders without receiving any resentment. She simply commands respect.

It was no surprise that because of this, Scott asked her to stay on Utopia and be on his team of X-Men. She may not agree with his tactics (such as endorsing X-Force, a team of killers) but she wants what is best for the team. Having Storm stand by his side sends a message to the others. Cyclops lost some face when Wolverine challenged him and took half the mutants off the island. Now with Storm by his side, it appears she fully supports all his decisions.

But Storm is better than just playing second fiddle. She doesn't come across as condescending. She's been perceived as a goddess and is even considered royalty now. Perhaps she has too many other obligations. She is married to Black Panther (although, how often do they actually see each other?) It also appears that she will be joining the Avengers. The Avengers are based in New York and Cyclops' X-Men are off the coast of San Francisco. There's always a Blackbird or Quinjet she could use but being on two teams might not be the best idea for a leader.

The odd thing is Scott's current belief is that all mutants should be trained as soldiers, even the children. Back in the same issue she took the leadership away from Scott, she also made it clear that the children shouldn't be placed in danger. Has she changed her views or is simply willing to stand by Scott's side as a favor to him?

Again, it should be said that Cyclops has done a great job. Being in the leadership role for so long with nothing else to free his mind isn't healthy. He and Emma should go off on a vacation for a while. Look at all the battles and deaths they've been through over the past few years.

Last time Cyclops relinquished leadership to Storm, he went off with his wife, Madelyne Pryor, and baby Cable. Of course as soon as Jean Grey returned from the dead, he went to her side and started up X-Factor.

Sometimes a change is good. Storm following orders from Cyclops seems like a waste of her potential. It's been far too long since we've seen Storm at full action with the X-Men. Cyclops has done a good job leading the X-Men and it'll be interesting to see what Wolverine does with his X-Men, but it's time to see Storm back making the decisions.

And besides, Storm would totally kick his butt again, right?

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Posted by 218Comics

Storm looks comfortable where she's at (even taking orders), at least in current writing. Although she makes an excellent leader, is that really necessary right now? We're only on issue #1 of Uncanny X-men, at least give Cyclops some time with the team.

Posted by CODYSF

I think she should lead the team.

Posted by ExistenceBiker

I think storm should lead again cause now the x-men are split into two teams i dont think professorX would be happy with the way the x-men are now ?

Posted by InnerVenom123

*Sees the title*

Oh, this thread is not going to be pleasant.

Posted by lorex

Storm only beat Cyclops due to interference from the the Goblin Queen or the demon providing her power (I forget). Storn does need to be back in the spotlight but ever since she got married to a prominent character outside of the X-Men circle it seems writers do not know where to place her. Is she Queen, X-Man, other. I do not see her as a viable candidate for leadership of the X-Men due to those compeating influences and responsibilities she now has. That's not to say she cannot lead the X-Men because she has done so successfully in the past, but unless they throw away all her recient history she cannot be leader of the X-Men right now.

Posted by luckydomino1

it would make a good story if storm beat the crap out of cyclops and took over

Edited by ApatheticAvenger

Storm simply isn't a viable option for leader at this time. She has too much on her plate as reigning queen of a sovereign nation, a member of Cyclops' Extinction Team, and now an Avenger.

Also, sorry fanboys, but this time around Storm wouldn't beat Cyclops so easily. It was made quite clear that Madelyne Pryor was at fault for Cyclops' defeat by Storm, and there's a lot more at stake these days when it comes to the future of the mutant race. Cyclops would put up a hell of a fight, and I doubt things would go very well for the Wind Rider.

Being leader of the X-Men is, for all intents and purposes, Cyclops' birthright. He was the first X-Man, the one Xavier himself chose to carry on the ideals of the mutant race, and even when Xavier left and Cyclops' philosophy changed (for the better) the professor STILL endorsed Scott as the one to lead. Cyclops has been handling this burden for a LONG time, and he'll continue to carry it better than anyone else could.

Posted by HexThis

Yes, yes, for god's sake YES.

And you're absolutely right. Why on earth would Storm take orders from Scott? Why would someone who at a point in time felt compelled to lead enough to take on a trusted friend in combat with no powers suddenly assume a subordinate position? She wouldn't. Nor would Magneto or Namor for that matter but particularly not Storm because she doesn't need to seek approval from the X-men in any sense.

Not only that, Scott treats his leadership like an inheritance. I've said it many times, Scott was a field leader in charge of only 4 other people, he split, he came back when there were dozens of X-men for a few years, and then when Xavier screwed up he stepped right in. No one really discussed it, no one went over the logistics, he just took the role of leader as arrogantly as he tried to when he fought Storm.

In keeping with your statement, I'm not even trying to argue Storm is better than Scott...it just makes no sense to me whatsoever that Scott is automatically the leader to some people. There's no sense behind it.

Edited by Afro_Warrior

It would make a good story if cyclops beat the crap out of storm and stayed in charge.

On a more serious note though, i don't think Storm would be the right person to lead the X-Men, as has been pointed out Storm didn't beat Scott legitimately, and even ignoring that fact, the X-Men need the best leader they can find and that is Cyclops, he was born and bred to lead the X-Men and so far, i honestly don't think anyone could have done a better job.

Sorry Storm

Posted by Solarflare32

No she's lost everyone who would follow her no questions asked bishop, forge, gambit, rogue, wolverine, and sage

Posted by MyraMyraMyra

I think Storm should lead her own team of X-Men. She'd make a far better leader than Cyclops or Wolverine, and she's stronger than the two of them combined.

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

@MyraMyraMyra said:

I think Storm should lead her own team of X-Men. She'd make a far better leader than Cyclops or Wolverine, and she's stronger than the two of them combined.

Strength doesn't make one a good leader, if it did then Hulk would be leading the Avenger instead of Cap.

Posted by RainEffect

Please take this thread down and save us before you further incite Storm fans (or as they stupidly like to be known as 'raindrops') into killing us with their incompetence. 

Edited by FadeToBlackBolt

Cyclops saved the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war. 

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saves the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

This. No one else would have been capable of making the tough decisions he made to ensure the survival of the mutant race and still keep their sanity.

Posted by Phaedrusgr

@ApatheticAvenger: Well said.

Edited by hitechlolife

God I hate Cyclops. I hope she flash fries the boring sob.

I think the comics are a little past the 'fight for leadership' thing. She should lead because she's better at it and not a borderline psycho.

Posted by EdwardWindsor

With Wolverine leading his own team , making a change from the norm i dont think its really needed since we are already in place the xmen havent been before really. Adding another change of leadership isnt really needed right now. And with Storm being such a bit part player of late would feel kinnda off to me having her step right in to the big shoes and telling people what to do when shes not been around.

Posted by TheBlackHood

I've never been a fan of Storm. Everyone else on the team seems like a real person while Storm has always come across as someone Role-Playing a super hero. Storm was always too worried about the friendship of the people under her leadership. A team doesn't need a nursemaid, it needs a military leader. This is why Cyclops leads and why Storm knows to step aside.

Posted by jubilee042

@InnerVenom123 said:

*Sees the title*

Oh, this thread is not going to be pleasant.

he is right

Edited by jhazzroucher

I want Storm to lead the whole x-men team. She plays a different role as a leader.

Gotta quote!

"She knows how to talk to others and give orders without receiving any resentment. She simply commands respect."

Storm should lead again. She seems to carry and fulfill what Professor X'es dream is all about. Cyclops changed it and Storm has to rectify it.

Storm is Captain America of the X-Men. They both have similar traits and dreams.

Posted by jhazzroucher

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saves the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

This. No one else would have been capable of making the tough decisions he made to ensure the survival of the mutant race and still keep their sanity.

Assumptions are assumptions. But Storm has saved mankind and earth itself.

Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@jhazzroucher said:

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saves the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

This. No one else would have been capable of making the tough decisions he made to ensure the survival of the mutant race and still keep their sanity.

Assumptions are assumptions. But Storm has saved mankind and earth itself.

And pointless scans are pointless scans. Storm lacks the tactical ability and internal fortitude to do something like form X-Force, or sacrifice her own son for the sake of her race. 
Edited by ApatheticAvenger

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saves the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

This. No one else would have been capable of making the tough decisions he made to ensure the survival of the mutant race and still keep their sanity.

Assumptions are assumptions. But Storm has saved mankind and earth itself.

And pointless scans are pointless scans. Storm lacks the tactical ability and internal fortitude to do something like form X-Force, or sacrifice her own son for the sake of her race.

Remember that time Storm founded a sovereign nation to save her people from persecution and death, making incredible personal sacrifices to ensure the survival of an entire race? No? Huh, I can't either...

Posted by jhazzroucher

@FadeToBlackBolt: the scans were not pointless. Storm literally saved humanity. and when i said "assumptions" i was not questioning Cyclops leadership and what he did but when you said that "if others have led and not him, they'd be dead or at war."

I know Cyclops is a great leader but Storm is a great leader too. And i prefer her way of leading which conforms more to Xavier's dream.

Leaders have their highs and lows but today, I just wanna let everybody know why Storm is regarded as one of the greatest leaders in Marvel Comics.

Thanks to a fellow Storm fan. Here's a scan that distinguishes Storm from other leaders.

Posted by jhazzroucher

@MyraMyraMyra said:

I think Storm should lead her own team of X-Men. She'd make a far better leader than Cyclops or Wolverine, and she's stronger than the two of them combined.

I think so too. : )

@ApatheticAvenger said:

Storm simply isn't a viable option for leader at this time. She has too much on her plate as reigning queen of a sovereign nation, a member of Cyclops' Extinction Team, and now an Avenger.

Also, sorry fanboys, but this time around Storm wouldn't beat Cyclops so easily. It was made quite clear that Madelyne Pryor was at fault for Cyclops' defeat by Storm, and there's a lot more at stake these days when it comes to the future of the mutant race. Cyclops would put up a hell of a fight, and I doubt things would go very well for the Wind Rider.

Being leader of the X-Men is, for all intents and purposes, Cyclops' birthright. He was the first X-Man, the one Xavier himself chose to carry on the ideals of the mutant race, and even when Xavier left and Cyclops' philosophy changed (for the better) the professor STILL endorsed Scott as the one to lead. Cyclops has been handling this burden for a LONG time, and he'll continue to carry it better than anyone else could.

Storm can handle it.

She is clearly an omnibus. : )

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

@jhazzroucher: Storm is a good leader, not denying that. The simple fact of the matter is that Storm wouldn't have had what it took to make decisions like the forming of X-Force (which, let's face it, saved more lives than it destroyed). She just isn't that kind of person. She vehemently opposed X-Force the second she found out about it (even though she herself has killed in the past) and still doesn't agree with it.

If Storm were leading the X-Men during recent years, there's no doubt in my mind that more of them would be dead because she would have refused to take the fight to their enemies. Storm is an idealist (fact), she likes to think her moral compass is superior to all others (opinion). Cyclops is a realist, a pragmatic leader who makes decisions that he knows no one else will face. For this reason Cyclops is the leader the X-Men need, not Storm.

Posted by jhazzroucher

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@jhazzroucher: Storm is a good leader, not denying that. The simple fact of the matter is that Storm wouldn't have had what it took to make decisions like the forming of X-Force (which, let's face it, saved more lives than it destroyed). She just isn't that kind of person. She vehemently opposed X-Force the second she found out about it (even though she herself has killed in the past) and still doesn't agree with it.

If Storm were leading the X-Men during recent years, there's no doubt in my mind that more of them would be dead because she would have refused to take the fight to their enemies. Storm is an idealist (fact), she likes to think her moral compass is superior to all others (opinion). Cyclops is a realist, a pragmatic leader who makes decisions that he knows no one else will face. For this reason Cyclops is the leader the X-Men need, not Storm.

Cyclops forming the X-Force to kill is somewhat sort of a good way to resolve their problems but I believe Storm would have resolve stuff in a better and more appropriate way. What Cyclops wanted is not what Professor X would agree on so for this reason alone, Cyclops is not the leader the X-Men needs, but Storm.

Edited by ApatheticAvenger

@jhazzroucher: What would be a more "appropriate" way? Remember, these are the people who blew up a bus full of mutant children, the people whose mission in life is wipe mutants off the face of the earth. I'd like to hear what Storm would have done in Cyclops' place.

As for what Prof. X would agree with, it's not relevant. The last relevant thing Xavier did in terms of leadership of the X-Men was endorsing Scott as the man in charge. Xavier's dream is a shadow, it became a thing of the past the moment M-Day happened. Scott realized this, and while he still believes in the dream (see his letter at the end of the new Uncanny X-Men #1) he knew the most important thing for the mutant race to focus on was not coexistence but survival. I doubt Storm would have made the same choice (a choice that saved the mutant race).

Posted by jhazzroucher

@ApatheticAvenger said:

@jhazzroucher: What would be a more "appropriate" way? Remember, these are the people who blew up a bus full of mutant children, the people whose mission in life is wipe mutants off the face of the earth. I'd like to hear what Storm would have done in Cyclops' place.

As for what Prof. X would agree with, it's not relevant. The last relevant thing Xavier did in terms of leadership of the X-Men was endorsing Scott as the man in charge. Xavier's dream is a shadow, it became a thing of the past the moment M-Day happened. Scott realized this, and while he still believes in the dream (see his letter at the end of the new Uncanny X-Men #1) he knew the most important thing for the mutant race to focus on was no coexistence but survival. I doubt Storm would have made the same choice (a choice that saved the mutant race).

I am not very articulate and perhaps another Storm fan can explain for you more effectively. But it's pretty much obvious that killing is not the answer. You just said it yourself. Cyclops view is that the most important thing for the mutant race was not coexistence but survival, a statement that is clearly different from Xavier's dream and why he made the X-Men. Storm believes in Xavier's dream and that dream would as well save the mutant race.

anyway, gotta sleepo.

Posted by ApatheticAvenger

@jhazzroucher said:

But it's pretty much obvious that killing is not the answer.

How is it "obvious" in any way? Because it's "wrong" to kill under any circumstance? You might want to tell that to Storm, who tried to kill Marrow by RIPPING OUT HER HEART.

Posted by GothamRed

Every leader needs a guiding force, and for Scott, that's Ororo. That's her role on the team and she does it very well, and seems very comfortable and in her elements with it. She doesn't need to be leader because she has enough credit to what she says that she doesn't need the position to guide the team in the right direction.

Also from a non-character point of view, you have to remember that this is taking place right after a huge distaster took place. If the X-Men start questioning themselves on this kind of level this soon after something like that, the the people around them will start to question them, which will undoubtedly lead to worse results then Scott messes up once or twice. You need to think of of the big picture before you start changing around smaller aspects of it.

But that's just my two cents, anyone else?

Posted by jarsamson

@MyraMyraMyra said:

I think Storm should lead her own team of X-Men. She'd make a far better leader than Cyclops or Wolverine, and she's stronger than the two of them combined.

She's a born leader. She is a queen.

Posted by Saren

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saved the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

This times 100.

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Posted by Edgeworth_11

I can't believe this is worthy enough to be discussed. Storm is not the right leader in this age for the X-men. She won't make the decisions that Scott can. She is not the tactical leader Scott is. I respect her, but not her fanboys. G-man, you made a mistake in making this topic.

Posted by doordoor123

Better than what she is now. She's married to Black Panther but writers don't know what to do with her because Black Panther will always be a dead concept. It needs a shot to the arm really badly because it is one of Marvel's top characters. She should have married someone like Thor. Then we would at least have something interesting going on.

Posted by LordRequiem

I think Cyclops has already proven himself an excellent leader. Storm comes across as a proud follower, not an innate leader.

Posted by VioletPhoenix

I think Cyclops just needs a nap, it's been a long life.

Posted by Eyz

It would give her some nice and well deserved exposure...though I'd prefer to go crazy, and just give her her own Avengers team. (perhaps with Spidey and Wolverine on board)

Posted by Mbecks14

Is anyone else just really exhausted by trying to keep up with what's happening to the X-Men?

Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

Saw Storm in the title of the thread and knew the comments were going to be good. This is going to be a good day. Storm fans don't disappoint me. Act as crazy as you want.

Posted by Markall

Storm isnt able to lead the extinction team only Cyclops has that ability to work with all villians

Posted by super_psycho

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Cyclops saved the species from extinction. Had anyone else been leading the X-Men, they'd either be dead or in a war.

QFT

Edited by fodigg

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

Saw Storm in the title of the thread and knew the comments were going to be good. This is going to be a good day. Storm fans don't disappoint me. Act as crazy as you want.

You got it.

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No. Storm is a married woman now. It's time for her to get serious and start raising T'challa's babies--hers and any of his other babies--full time. At this point the X-Men are just a big distraction from her primary duties as a breeder/caregiver.

Oh wait eff that.

YES she should be leading the X-Men again, and she should bring back the motherflippin MOHAWK. Anyone who says otherwise will face her wrath!

MESS WITH STORM, AND SHE WILL EFFING CUT YOU. That's how you lead the X-Men.

Posted by GundamHeavyarms

No, Storm should not lead the X-men. Cyclops takes a lot of flack because he makes tough calls, that's what a leader is supposed to do. Storm would be too concerned if people liked her or not.

Posted by pspin

Both are good leaders but in two different styles, Cyclops is narrow focused and only cares about mutant survival and Storm is more wide focused and tries to help everyone. Both are good but completely opposite styles of leadership. Saying that I think somewhere down the line Cyclops needs to take a break for a while and let Storm take over.

Posted by WarMachineMarkV

- This seems to be coming off as more of an argument of who they like better rather than who would do a better job. Based on the reasons given so far I wouldn't be swayed to either side, the tone is more protecting their favorite than critical thinking.

Cyclops

- Cyclops is neither the natural or born leader many are calling him, it took him years to come out of his shell and confidently lead and earn respect. This is not to say he has not developed a lot since then, but please stop calling him this because it's just not true.

- I do agree that people are not getting that being a field leader of a team and a leader running an organization require two very different skill sets. I see it being a very hard argument to make that Scott is not a good field leader, but Utopia as a whole he is doing pretty bad IMO. Many of his decisions should have ended in disaster, but the writers love him so no matter what it works in the end.

Storm

- Things like being a goddess or queen are meaningless when it comes to leadership. These are titles on is born or marries into, not earned. If this is your only reason why she should be in charge, go back to the drawing board.

- Storm's personal experience makes her a better fit in leading an organization, but it's not by such a margin that she is any more obvious a choice than Cyclops. While Scott has grown arrogant over the past few years, Storm also tends to get self-righteous at times, such as when she reminds us for the 43rd time she is a goddess, master of the elements..etc.

- To be honest, the X-Men are no longer a handful of teams with field leaders reporting to Xavier, they are a society and it needs to be run reflecting that change. If it were up to me neither would be in charge in the sense

- Decisions need to be made by a group that represents the mutant community, and not Cyclops and whomever he decides is worth listening to. If for example a group of 7 were to be the "Mutant Executive Commitee" it should be voted on by the residents of Utopia. Each of these reps would manage a specific function, they would decide on matters that fall under their authority, but all major decisions are decided by all. (I still think living on Utopia is insane, but I'm assuming its not changing for this example)

- The job is too big for one person no matter who you like, and the idea that the masses should just do what they are told and like it is a joke. The society needs to choose what peers it wants to represent them, and therefore decide the direction of the X-Men by whom they put in charge.

- In this scenario it's almost assured that both would be voted in and would be able to focus on what they are good at as well as removing any tension that comes when one person can decide the fate of a nation with no checks and balances.

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

Hmmm, well I think she could offer a lot to the table of leadership for the X-Men as she has done in the past, but as for taking leadership right now and letting Cyclops stand aside, I think that would just make as precarious a situation as it is for the mutants even worse. No, there needs to be stability now and to have a regime change would possibly shake things up in a way that is not needed. If his leadership gets worse in this time of Regenesis then maybe it would be time for him to be relieved of his command by Ororo, but not a moment too soon.

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

People can say what they want but Storm is in my opinion the best choice for leader of the X-men. The x-men should be her main priority and if that is done she would be the best leader the team ever saw.

Posted by IrishX

You guys can say all you want about Storm fans but I'm not surprised it's actually the Cyclops fanboys who rally to his defense as the "savior of the mutant race"... it's about as bad as the Storm fans praising their "goddess".