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Off My Mind: If Batman Dies, Who Keeps The Kryptonite Ring?

Did Superman allow Dick to keep the ring when Bruce "died"?


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Let me know if I missed something. I can't remember if this has been brought up since Batman "died." Yesterday as I was driving from the comic shop to the office I started thinking, "What happened to the Kryptonite Ring when Batman 'died'?"
 
Let's back up in case you're not totally familiar with the story of the ring. Basically Lex Luthor had a piece of Kryptonite put in a ring he could wear and always have a weapon 'at hand' against Superman. The ring ended up in Batman's possession and Superman decided he wanted Batman to have it. If anything ever happened to Superman and he went out of control, the one person he knew could stop him was Batman. He felt Batman was the one person he could trust to keep the ring and not use it against him unless he had to. This just further showed the strength in their relationship.
 
As far as Superman is concerned, Bruce Wayne is dead. He was there when Darkseid blasted him with his omega beams and he brought his charred body back to the Batcave. Superman claimed that it was Bruce's body as he examined it down to its DNA. 
 
If Bruce was dead, who gets to keep the Kryptonite Ring? We can assume that Dick Grayson has it since he became Batman. Superman has worked with Dick in the past. I'm sure he knows Dick can be trusted, especially if Bruce chose him to be his successor. But does that mean Superman would still trust Dick with his life? All it takes is one mess up for an enemy to stumble across the ring in Dick's possession and Superman is done for. How many times has someone like Deathstroke gotten the better of him? 
 
My question is, if Bruce does in fact ever die for good, who would be Superman's number two choice to keep the ring. It can't be Lois since she's pretty much defenseless against Superman's enemies and I don't know if she could bring herself to use it against him if he was mind controlled. We've only really seen the deep friendship between Superman and Batman. I can't think of anyone that Superman would respect as much as he respects Bruce. Sure he's "pals" with Jimmy Olsen but come on, would you trust Jimmy with the ring? Maybe Wonder Woman?
 
Where is the ring right now? Does Dick carry it in a compartment in his utility belt? That's crazy too as we've seen Dick get beat. If someone beats Dick and takes his utility belt, they could stumble across the ring and do away with Superman. I'm surprised that crazy Jason Todd didn't try taking it when wandering around the Batcave right after Bruce's "death."
 
I hate to say that I don't have an answer to this right now. I'd have to really think about who Superman would trust as much as he trusts Bruce. Who do you think would be Superman's second choice?

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Thats true too. Well, how about Green Arrow?  
 
I know he also has a Kryptonite Arrow, doesn't he?

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@TheManOfSteel456 said:
" @Gambler: I agree.  But what about Wonder Woman? "
I dont know, for some reason I just dont see her in the running. Understanding she's part of the Big Three and all that, but keep in mind the whole premise of the ring is that, if Superman ever goes crazy, loses control, gets taken over, there's a way to stop him. But what happens if Wonder Woman goes crazy, or loses control and has the ring? I guess in my mind if its to dangerous for Superman to hold on to then it would be to dangerous for Wonder Woman as well.
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@Gambler: I agree. 
 
But what about Wonder Woman?
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Let the Guardians keep it. They have made some really responsible choices these past few years.

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You guys overlooked one character... Alfred Pennyworth.

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Superman of Earth-2 fried the K-Ring with heat vision in "Infinite Crisis" when Batman tried to use it on him in the batcave. Remember, Kriptonite from our universe doesn't work on the Earth-2 Superman.
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What about Lois? in the case that Clark loses his mind through Kryptonite (Red,Silver) and might need to defend herself or others.

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for all those replying with tim drake
 
why would batman leave the ring to him he barely knows him.Tim got into the batfamily not to long ago i mean in their worlds its being like 3 years? even if he was told who supes was how much interaction could he have had with clark? Supes knew batman before robin so hes know dick since he began his crime fighting carear .as someone put it clark is like an uncle to dick.After bruce fired dick from being robin(the new reason as to why dick stopped being robin) dick went to see clark for advice on what to do with his life(and from the story told by clark he named himself nightwing).Im not even sure if tim views superman as anything else other than superman.

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If Batman dies, Who keeps the kryptonite ring?
 
Number One - Batman will never die
(Ok, so I'm a little wrong on that one - but he always comes back) 

Number Two - If he did die for real, he'd bury himself with it....
Just so his corpse could have the pleasure of kicking the hell out of Supes too.

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He gave it too me and I still have it wait crap where did I put it

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... we saw Batman in the cave with his belt on. He still has the thing.
 if he ever did die though, Tim without a doubt. the ring is for strategic purposes, and Tim is captain strategy.

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Tim Drake...

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Well, theoretically, Jonnz, Diana, and Jordan all wouldn't really need the ring. Diana maybe. Other than her, no one else is really a good enough strategist to be able to put it to good use, The ring doesn't stop Kent in his tracks, it just slows him down enough to give them a fighting chance.  
 
All in all, I don't think Dick is smart enough to make good use of the ring if he does hold onto it. Beside that, if Damian got a hold of it it could be bad bad news... I don't know, I think I'd have to see Kent and Grayson meet up with Grayson under the cowl and see how it plays out. As far as I know, that hasn't happened yet, right? 

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That is hard to say, but I think Superman's second choice would be Wonder Woman. I mean, after Bruce, Wonder Woman is close friend & I do believe he trusts her.

I think the Kryptonite Ring is somewhere deep inside the Batcave. I'm pretty sure Batman has a secret room no one has seen before. It would be too dangerous to keep the Ring in his utility belt so I think it's in the Batcave...or maybe it's in his manson..who knows...hopefully we'll find out soon.

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My vote goes to Tim Drake too.

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Lois Lane should have it... no more clubb'n for Supes! hehe

 

but seriously I think, Tim drake should have it.

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@raidenexe:
YES! THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT! The ring was destroyed by Earth 2 Superman...good job raidenexe!
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@Kurrent said:
"Didn't Dick have a ring and used it on Superman already when he was training Ravager? It's been a few years but I think I remember something like that! I'll have to go back through my Nightwing books to confirm "

This was back when Dick was parading around as Renegade. What actually happened was Slade placed a kryptonite gem in Rose's empty socket. Dick had no clue until the reveal.
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The K-Ring was used by Batman in the "Hush" storyline to stall Superman who was under the control of Poison Ivy who had gotten K from Riddler I'm guessing.  
 
Now that Batman is dead I'm sure one of Batman's allies is holding it for the time being. It's unlikely Batman didn't mention the K Ring to someone.

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Clark is almost Dick's uncle.

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Bruce probably hid it and booty trapped it.  He doesn't really need it as he already has so much hidden K in his cave. Batman was already prepared to deal with a superman who flips out. 
 
Superman's second choice would be MM because he'd already know where it is since he can read Bruce or Clark's minds. But he has weaknesses, most notably fire. The best choice after Batman would be WW she's immortal and going to out live them all. She's also immune to most magic, and doesn't have any outstanding weaknesses.   Plus with that ring she's waste him.

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Dick Grayson seems fine. Yeah he's been beat before, but so has Bruce. Dick has been a good batman so far, yeah he needed to get use to the batsuit but he's been a trust worthy person. If not than Wonder Woman. 

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@Dracade102 said:
" I Read something about Lex losing his hand to Kryptonite Poisoning because of that damn ring... But Batman wasn't effected because of his Bat-armor... So I'd guess it would either be Tim Drake or Steel. "
Bruce didn't wear the ring. He was just in charge of it.
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Martian Manhunter or wonder woman. Heck maybe even hal Jordan

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Good job I didn't read the spoilers thing, I usually just open them. But I'm reading 12 now.
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@Supreme Marvel said:

"

 Tim Drake
 Tim Drake
He's only improving all the time.
He's smarter than Dick.
Batman even said that he has the potential to be better than him.
" Tim Drake is not Bruce Wayne. He isn't Grayson, or even Damian. Drake is different...look behind his eyes. I suspect he's already won."  - Ra's al Ghul "

I totally agree with you, Tim Drake would be my best guess, since how in red robin #12...
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You nkow what I never understood, if Superman can survive a Doomsday full of kyrptonite..what can a little ring do to him?

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smash the ring into shards and give a shard to everyone so they don't fight over it.

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If there is one person other than Batman I see Superman trusting with that ring, it's Wonder Woman without question.  
 
Although I see her faltering because she's a superhero who is driven by her emotions, so she might be distracted enough emotionally to do what's necessary. Not saying that she wouldn't, but I can see her at least second guessing using the ring against Superman. Batman is a little more cutthroat than that. 
 
Honorable mentions for me would be Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern. However flawed Hal Jordan may be, he is honorable enough to respect the kryptonite ring's power over Superman and only use it under extreme situations. 
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  @G~Man:

I'm sure he knows Dick can be trusted, especially if Bruce chose him to be his successor.


Well, not really :P 
 
 I remember you once reading us a very interesting part of a comic once in which Dick tells us why he didn't innmidietly take the Batman mantel and it was not because he didn't want to but because Bruce told him not too. So Bruce didn't wanted Dick to be Batman.. That I remember..
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I Read something about Lex losing his hand to Kryptonite Poisoning because of that damn ring... But Batman wasn't effected because of his Bat-armor... So I'd guess it would either be Tim Drake or Steel.
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@Precise said:
" @Voidheart: I know he has been, but i haven't seen what the ressurected MM can do... maybe he's weaker. "
<.< that wouldn't make any conventional sense
 
plus in brightest day we see him lift some pretty neat structures.
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First of all, Bruce always hid the ring away in the buckle of the utility belt. It was lead lined and locked. Not very many people even know that it opens. I'd say if he had to go on to choosing someone else, I'd say Steel. John Henry Irons would be great choice. Or Mon-El maybe. 
 
And as far as Dick Grayson having it, they showed Bruce in the cave with his utility belt so he probably still has it with him.

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Wonder Woman

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OTHER  THAN BRUCE , OF COURSE IT WOULD BE DIANA
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Alfred sells it at the first annual Wayne family yard sale.
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@Kurrent said:
" Didn't Dick have a ring and used it on Superman already when he was training Ravager? It's been a few years but I think I remember something like that! I'll have to go back through my Nightwing books to confirm "
 
I'm not sure about Ravager's training, but Dick did show Superman a lead-lined "mystery box" in the later issues of the previous Outsiders series.  The box was revealed to the reader in the end as actually containing kryptonite, but Superman was left to wonder whether or not Nightwing now posed a real threat to him.
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Superman's number two... heh

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@Caligula said:
" Martian Manhunter "

good one
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DIE + BATMAN = Never goes to together

 
More important question:  Why would Batman ever die in the first place?  

http://www.comicvine.com/batman/29-1699/list-the-most-unbelievable-batman-survival-stories-youve-read/92-543105/#10     
 
^ Batman has survived being attacked by Superman, Darkseid, and even Marvel's own The Hulk.  
 
In fact, Bruce Wayne is going to out live everyone from Hal Jordan to Princess Diana and even Kal-El himself.  Even the New Gods don't got nothing on him!
 

 
 
Even obesity can't kill Batman.
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There are multiple Kryptonite rings Batman has a couple tons of Kryptonite in his cave

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I reckon WW

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I don't think they are going to put Dick and Superman against each other until Bruce comes back. But, I don't know who would keep the ring. Besides Bruce has a secret area where he has every single kryptonite in his cave. Superman does not know about that.

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I'm thinking Wonderwoman since she's a part of the Trinity. If Bruce has his utility belt it's probably with him. But if he's going through time as batman doesn't that mean he eventually loses it when he dies in that timeline?
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I thought the ring was locked away in a vault in cave...but Dick can Stop Superman with the ring but I'm giving it to Wonder Woman for safe keeping.Why? Cause she can stuff it in her bra. if Someone trys to take it and they'll end up like Maxwell Lord...

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@Supreme Marvel:
Totally agree.   
Wonder Woman would be the choice villains would THINK had the Kryptonite ring.  I doubt any of them would suspect Red Robin would have it, he's undercover and a bit unassuming which gives him the advantage.
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Didin't Earth 2 Superman use his heat vision to destroy Batman's kryptonite ring in Infinite Crisis?

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