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Off My Mind: How Powerful Are Darkseid's Omega Beams?

Should they, in turn, make him unstoppable?

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Darkseid is one of the most ruthless and powerful villains in the DC Universe. His prime weapon would be his Omega Beams. They have been said to be impossible to avoid and capable of vaporizing, erasing, or transmuting any form of matter, living or nonliving. That sounds impressive to me. 
 
The question on my mind is, how powerful are those beams? What exactly are they capable of? Over the years, we've seen different effects from getting hit by the beams. It has been said that Darkseid can even resurrect someone hit by the beams. In some ways, this truly gives him godly powers. Basically this is Darkseid's absolute way of giving someone a time-out for however long a period he chooses.
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In Martian Manhunter #34, we saw that the beams can also transport himself or others through time and space. If this is the case, couldn't Darkseid travel to the future to see whether or not he will be able to defeat Superman or Orion? Depending on how messing with the time stream works (that's a completely different topic), Darkseid could also go back in time and change things so he isn't so easily defeated by his enemies. 
 
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There's also the question of how come some individuals seem to be immune to his the Omega Effect? If he can vaporize any form of matter, how come he hasn't been able to vaporize Superman? Is Darkseid himself immune from his own blasts? In an animated episode, Darkseid is about to blast Superman, who quickly clamps his hands over his eyes. The blast knocks Darkseid back and injures him. 
 
Where do his blasts stand in terms of strength? Is Superman's invulnerability stronger? What about Wonder Woman's bracelets? Could a Green Lantern block the beams?
 
 Even without his beams, Darkseid has demonstrated acts of super strength, stamina and speed. As evil and dark as Darkseid is, he simply deserves more respect. With his beams and an entire planet under his control, he shouldn't be so easily defeated. Darkseid may be "dead" at the moment, but it's only a matter of time until he returns yet again.

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Supernova level, Superman has already been knocked out for a energy attack of that level, and Omega Beams already knocked him out, so... Do the math.

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If you'll recall, it took two shots to kill DeSaad in the Omega Beams' debut.

The first was a warning shot. They have an adjustable setting.

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They're as strong as need be.

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his omega beams used to vaporize anything it touches but that was too op so they had to tone it down so now it just deals heavy amount of damage

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what I find odd about this topic is we are all very fast to slam superman for being too powerful and boring Yet we want darkseeds omega beams to Hit any target and destroy any target? would that not make him way over powered and unbeatable? who could ever fight him if all he has to do is fire his beams and the WILL hit and destroy anything? 
 
I think and like the way hes been handled hes bascially unlimited power but defeats himself its the classic villan downfall
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I'm really willing to chalk any failure to kill Superman on Darkseid's part to him simply not using the full power on. Because, really, He's hurt the frigging Anti-Monitor. There is no way Superman would be much of a challenge.
 
 @SUPER-MAN 23 said:

" I always wondered. Why is Darkseid's name pronounced, "DARKSIDE" and not "DARKSEID". Would "Darkseid" mean "Darkside"? Anyway, I don't think Darkseid even controls his Omega beams. I think he doesn't really understand what power he wields. Because when he tried to kill Batman in Final Crisis #6, we found out later that he was transported to the caveman times in the end of final crisis #7. So maybe Darkseid controls the beams at times, however, other times the Omega beams choose who to kill and who not to kill "

Read Return of Bruce Wayne. Darkseid meant to do everything that happened to Batman.
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I think they just use the Omega Beams as a convenient device to show how Darkseid is more powerful than Superman.  I wonder if the creators could even explain their parameters.

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Thanks for the rewrite! On a quick scan it looks much better.

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It was said that Darkseid's Omega Beams actually just kill and that's it. But from what I've seen, it only seems like they just do whatever he wants them to do. He wanted to send Bruce Wayne to the stone age. But he also wanted everyone to believe that he killed him too by using that dead clone.

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Was about to say in the Superman/Batman:Apocalypse movie, Kara dodges his beams and as they're seeking her, she flies behind Darkseid and they nail himself lol.  Nothing happens other then him getting hit. Her and Superman also just take it which tells me kryptonians are very, very durable to his OB's. So to me that makes sense, now if he hits a human or most other people it should fry them or disintegrate them IMO. 
 
Superman's heat vision at max power at least in the Silver Age was also said to destroy planets and ignite suns...so I'm curious as to what would happen if Superman charged his heat vision vs. Darkseid's OB's head on. 
 
Also, when Batman "died" didn't he actually get transported to another dimension after getting hit by Darkseid's OB's?

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The force of the Omega beams have NEVER been defined to the point of exactness. So there are many points which that brings up. All we know for sure is that they are a form of weapon which Darkseid uses to hopefully gain the upper hand.
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Can we get a proof-reader on these before they go up? Two sentences in and two major mistakes.

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In re: Time Travel-
 
In Simonson's Orion, in one of the final issues, Orion makes a comment about how the New Gods tend to avoid messing with the time stream. I don't recall the exact comment, but it was pretty convincing and profound, and made a veiled reference to Crisis.

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i was JUST having a convo about this yesterday! i was watching the new superman/batman Apocalypse movie and in the movie supergirl is hit MANY times with the beams and although it hurt her, she survived and was able to keep fighting, however in the comics it turned her to dust with one blast (even though it wasn't really her, she was teleported away at the last second) but it hinted that if it WAS to hit her, she'd die, so my question is why didnt she die in the movie? and since it COULD kill a kryptonian when it hits them, how is superman still alive?? this is truly confusing, and it seems that that the beams constantly change in both power and speed from story to story. another example is how Batman could dodge them in the JLU Series although they are supposed to be extremely fast, but couldn't dodge them at the end of final crisis...what the heck DC?? are they all powerful or not??

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Booster Gold would stop him if he were to try and mess with the time stream. He is the greatest time master of all...and all.

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@SUPER-MAN 23: If it's German the "ei" is like an "i", maybe that had something to do with it, it certainly does look cooler.
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@FinalStar86: Thanks! 
 
@SUPER-MAN 23 said:
" I always wondered. Why is Darkseid's name pronounced, "DARKSIDE" and not "DARKSEID". Would "Darkseid" mean "Darkside"? "
I used to say Dark-SEED. When I hear Dark-SIDE, I think of this: 
  
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In DC comics, if you're name's on the cover, you're unbeatable. That's how Hal Jordan was able to sucker punch Batman, after all.

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It's depends whose writing him, Darkseid is written like Superman. He can be extremely overpowered more than half the time but then he get whoop like a pansy out of the blue for holding back

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@Sha: Take a look at who's writing in that Wonder Woman scan.
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@The Impersonator said:
" @Sha: This comic scene reminds me of the Superman/Batman: Apocalypse movie. "
That's cause it's the comic version of that movie
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To kill Superman Darkseid  would probably have to blast him repeatedly for a long period of time to kill him or any other kryptonian. Wonder Woman well we all have see how those Omega beams stand up to her bracelets. Only individuals probably able of dodging the beams would probably be the Flash, A serious acting Superman, Batman (Justice League Unlimited) and maybe a few others.

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Good article

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There is no consistency when it comes to Darksied’s Omega Beams. So when it’s used, like many beam like powers, I just see how the writer and/or artist intends to use it. Between incineration, penetration, and vaporizing… let along life and death. We’ve seen how it works. Same goes for Superman’s Heat Vision and Cyclops’ Optic Blast. 

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 I guess it all depends on what Darkseid exactly want to do to his adversary    

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@lordcmdrstryker said:
" You mean some guy in DC has a power that is written totally inconsistently from one place to another?  NO WAY! "
lmao
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wasn't Galactus uneffected by the Omega beams?
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He is super, mega, ultra powerful and his beams might be the most powerful attack there is. But even in the JLU animated series Batman escaped his Omega Beams, but then again we all know how super-human Batman is when it comes to escaping death
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Darkseid's omega beams are so powerful that they can destroy an entire planet. I just hope the creators use Darkseid's omega beams in Smallville series. So far, I don't like the interpretation of Darkseid in Smallville.
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@Sha:
This comic scene reminds me of the Superman/Batman: Apocalypse movie.
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You mean some guy in DC has a power that is written totally inconsistently from one place to another?  NO WAY!

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I consider it bad writing for Superman to be able to withstand them at all considering what he has shown to be able to to do with the beams.

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I believe it actually depends on what form of matter is being shot.

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@Fireheart10 said:
" There is no doubt that he will be back eventually. As for the Omega Beams, they have been portayed somewhat inconsistent. But definitely they are very powerful. "
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@Sydpart2:
Batman 701 and 702 are the prequels to him being thrown thruough time right? if so i read those. The events leadin up to that moment in Final Crisis. I didnt see anything in there that explains why he survived. Also i dont see how he can jump through time to end up right back in our time
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I always wondered. Why is Darkseid's name pronounced, "DARKSIDE" and not "DARKSEID". Would "Darkseid" mean "Darkside"? Anyway, I don't think Darkseid even controls his Omega beams. I think he doesn't really understand what power he wields. Because when he tried to kill Batman in Final Crisis #6, we found out later that he was transported to the caveman times in the end of final crisis #7. So maybe Darkseid controls the beams at times, however, other times the Omega beams choose who to kill and who not to kill

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@DEGRAAF:
Just about Bruce real quick. If you read Return of Bruce Wayne or even Batman 701 and 702 why Bruce is alive will make sense. I don't want to spoil it though
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@Fireheart10 said:
"There is no doubt that he will be back eventually. As for the Omega Beams, they have been portayed somewhat inconsistent. But definitely they are very powerful. "

What he said.
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@Dark Walker:
yea he needs to come back truely, even only half way powered and demolish the JSA no problem then at about 80% do the same to the JLA and at 100% just give Superman an a$$ whoopin. I think the omega beams/sanction/whatever are over used. He should be able to rule with an apocolptic fist. He should be the most terrifying thing in the unvierse short of the anti-monitor. I like Bruce but he shouldnt be alive. He should have been vaporized. Also the beam is supposed to track its target turning on a dime so batman and robin shouldnt have been able to dodge it. They could how ever put something between them and the beam so basically the beam will destroy their shield. He should be able to take on Doomsday no problem, but on the other hand that kind of makes it look like Doomsday has been depowered. They should be equals except for when it comes to Darkseids omega beam, but i guess he could olny use that once but since its mmade up of the power of the source i guess that could be something Doomsday cant adjust too.
 
and when i say demolish i mean kill half the JSA or more and at least 2 or 3 members of the JLA. AND THOSE KILLED NEED TO STAY DEAD!!! 
 
It doesnt sound like anything will stay dead from now on. I thought Blackest Night was supposed to fix the returning of the dead problem but Johns stated over the weekend that there are plenty of white and black rings out there to kill and reserrect people.
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He hit Kara with those beams and  well I thought she was vaporized


 Apparently before this happened she get's
 Apparently before this happened she get's "teleported"
 

 WonderWoman Also has bested them.
 WonderWoman Also has bested them.

I think for having the amount of power that he has, Darksied is really disrespected when it comes to his Omega beams.
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Omega Beams are the most whacked out of version of Superman's heat vision...
since freeze vision.

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Just do the Batman shuffle and you can avoid them too.

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Deus-ex-omega beams.

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Yeah impossible to dodge yet Batman did it with no problem  
 
I wonder if Sups and Flash can avoid it? :P

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i thought that his Omega Beams were completely de- powered in Superman/Batman Apocalyps.

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Man, I gotta read some stuff with Darkseid in it.

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Hope ,when an if he comes back, he comes back with a bang.

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