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Off My Mind: How Can Cyclops' Uncanny X-Men Win the Public's Hearts

Cyclops presents the question to his new X-Men squad. There will be minor spoilers from Uncanny X-Men #1.

Being a mutant and an X-Men is not as glamorous as it used to be. Even though mutants were always considered menaces, the X-Men were still considered heroes by most of the public. They put their lives at risk in order to prevent evil mutants and other bad guys from harming innocent lives.

These days, the shift for the X-Men has changed. They still want to protect the innocent but it turns out they themselves are now at risk. The hatred towards mutants and the fact that there are under two hundred in existence puts their very survival at risk.

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After the events of Schism, the mutants are split with some leaving Utopia with Wolverine to start up a new school and others staying with Cyclops to fight for their survival. With the relaunch and release of Uncanny X-Men #1, Cyclops has revealed his new direction. How different will things be for the X-Men and is this the best approach to take?

== TEASER ==

Heroes' lives are always at risk. Yet it's the X-Men that have enemies that actually gunning for them. That's what he tried telling Wolverine. He isn't crazy about the idea of kids being soldiers but what guarantees of survival are there in sitting in a school with a giant target on it?

His solution is the formation of his Extinction team. For the future of mutants, Cyclops believes they need to make a larger statement. You would think with all the good the X-Men have done, they would me more accepted as heroes. Yet, as time has gone by and they've even come out publicly so they aren't hiding behind masks, the public still fears them. He wants to prove that they can save humanity from extinction and that they are Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

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What Cyclops is basically saying is he wants the world to realize just how great of heroes they are. He knows all their past deeds haven't shown the public that they shouldn't be feared. To prove they're heroes, he gives his squad a fearful name. He selects mutants with incredible firepower that would be an asset in the field.

It's Storm that actually points out Cyclops' questionable direction. These aren't the most friendly members of X-Men. Their name isn't one that will inspire trust. Cyclops' reply was they will prove the public wrong. And those that hate mutants should also fear them. But isn't that the problem? People hate mutants because they're different and they also fear them. Being afraid of them isn't going to make people think of them as heroes.

What should Cyclops do?

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They've already tried hiring a public relations person. It didn't quite workout but that doesn't mean they should throw out the idea. Kate Kildare has handled many scandals in the Marvel Universe. Think about Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers. When they were first introduced, it was a public event. The X-Men need to be seen in public instead of hiding behind closed doors on Utopia. Magneto was thought to be a major problem but when he publicly saved many, his 'ratings' went up a little.

Matching uniforms? They've had them before. If they show a sense of unity, they might appear more appealing. They are a 'team' and most of the time athletes appear together in their uniforms. Magneto running around in his familiar costume will just bring back too many memories and fears. There's also the Fantastic Four that has matching uniforms. They are perceived as a family but the X-Men are essentially family as well.

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Utopia should be opened to the public on occasion. If the X-Men stay hidden on a far off island of their own, the public will have no idea what they're doing there. They could be plotting the destruction of humanity for all they know. Even if they had a controlled televised tour, it might put the public's mind at ease. They have had people on before but they should do it more regularly, provided they can make it safe.

Reality shows and public appearances? What if Emma Frost appeared as a guest judge on American Idol? Maybe Storm could be on hand at the grand opening of a new car dealership. This goes along with the PR angle but that's what they need to do. They need to sell themselves as heroes. People fear them because they're mutants but the X-Men need to show that even though they're mutants, they are still human.

The most important thing is what Scott had in mind. They need to keep being heroes. They need to prove the world is wrong to hate and fear them. It's unfortunate if being nearby San Francisco invites the likes of Mister Sinister or other X-Men villains but that's the price of having heroes nearby. Having a name like "Extinction team" isn't going to win over the public. They do need to show they are tough but trying to instill fear in some will only result in scaring everyone.

Overall, the X-Men shouldn't really concern themselves with what the public thinks. They didn't worry about it too much in the past and shouldn't now. They are heroes and they don't need the praise. They want to do the right thing. They just need to be able to do it without everyone trying to kill them just for being who they are.

And maybe Emma should put on some more clothes.

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This team only has two characters who would actually do well enough in PR Storm and Cyclops. The rest don't help matters.

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@HotSauceCommittee: LOL

If I was a Mutant in Marvel Universe I would have totally sided with Wolvie, Slim seems to uptight (Maybe is the spandex talking I dont really know)

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Not to be a negative nanny but of course no matter what Scott does it won't work. The whole point point of the X-men comics is to protect a world that fear and hates them. If they stopped that theme then what makes X-men different from the Avengers or JLA or any other super team? Scott could give everyone in the world a baby puppy and kitten and infinite chocolate/wine but the world would still hate them (or revert to hating them once everyone develops diabetes/becomes an alcoholic/puppies and kittens grow up to be not as cute) . It's part of the X-men schtick/status quo.

The only thing you can do about it is to explore the different ways X-men could operate within that context and tie it into how current society is.

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Extinction team rules! Some of the biggest mutant powerhouses are in and Emma Frost keeps showcasing her "assets". All is well in mutant paradise. I don't completely agree with the whole PR thing or their general strategy,but I don't think it too much. For me its just a means to an awesome end: X-men finally playing with the big boys and actually making a difference on the whole Marvel U and not just mutant U.

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Good article. I agree with everything except Emma wearing more clothes ;-)

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@THEBlaqueBasterd said:

I find it funny how a Marvel Public would almost fully accept a morally challenged Dark Avengers.. But wouldnt accept the X Men even with all theyve done for the world and never asked for payment.. I think this is a noble &quite understandable move from Summers...

I think the main problem is... it's Cyclops. The guy some people really looove to hate. Sometimes to a ridiculus degree, if you ask me....

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I find it funny how a Marvel Public would almost fully accept a morally challenged Dark Avengers.. But wouldnt accept the X Men even with all theyve done for the world and never asked for payment.. I think this is a noble &quite understandable move from Summers.. also

I think the X Mens power &publicity circle should go as follows

Cyclops - Founder/Leader/Commander In Chief/Possible Key Member of Illuminati? (It should be tastefully noted that this man is literally the Mutant answer to Steve Rogers/Martin Luther King &Malcolm X combined)White Queen - First Lady/Co Leader/Financier/Utopia Secretary Of Media.. (Still has ties with numerous clandestine power circles &a staunch republican, could come in handy balance wise)

Storm - Spiritual Leader/Moral Compass/Ambassador to Wakanda/Royalty=PR Wet Dream (a more visible prescence from her would bring in the international &black community.. Im thinkin guest spots with Oprah, a few BET Awards appearances etc)

Angel - Founding Member/Financier/Utopia Secretary of Commerce/International Playboy (despite his troubles with the split personality disorder I cant imagine leaving the blue eyed blue blooded pretty boy billionaire &1of The ORIGINAL 5 out of the mix ESP when it comes to PR links with Republicans)

Ice Man - Founding Member/CFO/Utopia Secretary of Finance? (An incredibly underused member, ppl keep forgetting hes been there since the start, &would be an EXTREMELY valuable asset.. &With his comedic charm guest spots on SNL & The Daily Show wouldn be outa place &could possibly garuantee rising support with entertainment sectors &Democrats)

Colossus - Utopia Secretary of Arts&Agriculture/Ambassador to Russia, represents the working class man...SnM

That would be the BEST forefront team IMO As for other powrhouses that could make the "round table" but not be at the head of the team....

Namor - Utopia Secretary of the Environment: royalty &extremely valuable asset that'd make the round table but with his temper, personality etc would be best suited to X tinction Team B

Magneto - Utopia Secretary of Defense/Special Advisor to The Commander in Chief/Wartime Consigliere to Cyclops: Again a PR liability.. &even more so than Namor, even though hes exhibited the ability to change.. Any PR transformation of Green Goblinesque levels would mean ALL resources focused solely on him.. Not wise or possible. Keep him in the background as a reminder of exactly how powerful the X Man are but just howmuch they are holding back

Xavier - Utopia Secretary of Education?/Special Advisor to The Commander in Chief I think he & Magneto should both be background figures called upon for advice in times of crisis..he could be the angel on the left side of Cykes shoulder to Magnetos devil on the right.. &would make for more balanced decision making by the leader. Hell Don Vito had 2 consiglieres & he was .... umm The Godfather o__O

The top 5 (Emma doesnt count) is My ideal idea of the X Mens ideal Media Offensive.. hopefully after someone at Marvel reads this..silly things like having Danger (really???) & Hope (too young &inexperienced) on the panel will be a simply retconned thing of the past

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If you want to be taken seriously. 1.Get rid of the code names you are President King-God Summers 2. Don't flouder about your power if you want to be loved. 3. PPut your best mutatnts forward, dosome charity work for the blind. You have someone there that can cure cancer make a reality show where he just dose that all day. You have so many mutants that could help humanity as a whole and your keeping them on the island for show.

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Can Cyc' actually manage the pressure?

@RainEffect said:

@HotSauceCommittee said:
Taking off the giant blue condom would be a start...
This.

Wha...? B-but, you should always wear some protection, ya know? :P

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Yeah let's just get rid of the A-hole Cyclops, as some have said. It's not like he's saved the mutant race or anything... Avengers who? Extinction team baby!!

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Good for you.

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How bout Cyclops or Emma Frost on Chelsea Lately?

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- After all the years of being with the X-Men you would think Cyclops would have by now realized you cannot force the general public or the powers that be to accept you, respect you, only fear you.

- When the X-Men opened themselves up to the world and said here we are, accept us, things have not gotten any better, and the body count of teammates and students began to pile up. The X-Mansion destroyed over and over, busloads of student murdered on their front lawn, attacked constantly even with 200 mutants at their disposal, why is this team going to change anything?

- If anything Cyclops direction and ego (best shown by his comments in UXM 1) are drawing more attention to them in the worst way possible, the face of the X-Men now includes Magneto, Namor, and the White Queen, all PR nightmares. The X-Men have always had a bullseye on their back and are now making it bigger and bigger with little chance of upside.

- If Cyclops really wanted to save the mutant race he would return to the shadows no matter how much they may despise what they would think of as a step back. Their numbers are dwindling, their remaining numbers divided, and no matter how powerful a team he fields, he cannot play chicken with all their real and potential enemies and win.

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@Crowingaboutcomics said:

I haven't picked up this issue yet, but agree in principle to what others are saying...too villianious of a cast - the name: Extinction Team? Won't people wonder about who is going to be extinct when the team finds them? Stupid. Magneto, still in his old costume. Stupid. It's important to be feared? Really? Are the Fantastic Four feared? The Avengers? Shouldn't have Magneto interjected by saying: "Scott, I've tried the fear route, and where did it take me?" I wish one of the editors would get his/her head out of his/her @$$ about this...

The x-men will always be feared...if the public stops fearing them, the comic ends...they have tried everything before, might as well put them in their place with a show of power. They will never be loved like the Avengers or the FF just cause they are the X-men and are full of mutants. That's the whole point of the comic, to protect a world that fears them, so the fear ain't going away.

Heck, just look at the U.S. don't tell me everyone loves that country...what's stopping other countries from messing with them? raw military might...As long as they don't take over the world they will be fine. Extinction Team = The U.S.A Military (I'm not saying the U.S. is a bad country or anything, i'm just saying a lot of other countries must be itching to take what they have, and fear stops them from tangling w/ the U.S.)

I do agree about a costume change though...and a little P.R. to calm people down a bit

All superpower countries resort to a "show of force" once in awhile... it's pretty naive to think they don't

Team Extinction's brand of fear is more like respect. Fear=Respect..they do have make sure they stick to super heroing, the moment they don't it can all blow up in Scott's face. Which makes the comic really interesting...to see if they cross the that line..

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Pfff ! Either Cyke or the writer are loosing their heads ! Extinction team ? an operation of PR ? PLEASE !

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I personally am inclined to be pessimistic- NOTHING mutants( even "good ones" like the X-Men) do will endear themselves to the man/woman on the Clapham Omnibus( or "Joe Sixpack" as the average American-as opposed to his British counterpart)- like the vampires in "True Blood", they have become the one minority that it's socially acceptable to hate or otherwise publicly despise in "politically correct" America!

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@Rhaknar said:

tho the hell is that blue robot chick? I assume the red headed chick is Hope? and who is the blond next to colossus (in the picture with the 8 faces)

The blue robot is Danger from Joss Whedon's run on "Astonishing X-Men" and the blond girl next to Colossus is his sister, Illyana, or Magik.

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tho the hell is that blue robot chick? I assume the red headed chick is Hope? and who is the blond next to colossus (in the picture with the 8 faces)

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On a side note this is one of the larger downsides of company/family wide events. Relegating the public appearance of X-Men as heroic icons was the driving motion of the X-stories during Heroic Age, but the story got cut in the middle by the next Events and seemingly put on hold, and seems to be resuming now. Saying basically that it's been dragged out a little longer than it probably should have been by that effect and doesn't seem to have even made a step towards and inevitable conclusion, given it impromptu story structure as a result.

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@One_Eye said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

Here are a few issues with Cyclops' plan:

1) In terms of winning the public's hearts, naming the team the "Extinction Team" might make the public fear them more than respect them because even though Cyclops' team is taking down the big time villains, the name might also imply that they are going to exterminate the humans too, just based on that name alone.

2) If they want the public to think that they are heroes, then yes, making public appearances would do them good, especially going on talk shows like Jay Leno or Oprah where the public can see them as regular people dealing with special powers. However, they must be cautious about who they are telling their plans to because the paparazzi might take their statements about protecting the world in a negative light and they don't need that sort of stress to maintain a good public image.

3) There are a lot of former villains on the team, especially Magneto and Emma, and it's possible that the public might be a tad bit too leery of trusting them to lead a heroes team. If Magneto and Emma want the public's respect, then they need to perform some sort of memorable stunt such as saving the world from a meteor to gain their trust and they must not revert back to their villainous ways (although it's possible they will anyway).

4) Instead of stating that they are better than the Avengers, the X-Men needs to work with other superhero teams like the Fantastic Four and the Avengers, that are well-liked by the public to prove to the public that they truly are heroes. I know that the X-Men want to prove to the public that they can handle the situations themselves, but teaming up with superhero teams who are well-liked by the public would boost up their popularity.

I agree

1) Perhaps the team name is Cykes way of making humanity cognizant of the mutants dwindling population but also further emphasize "Extinction Teams" desire to protect and save the day regardless. However, I definitely understand where you're coming from and first chance that Scott gets he needs to explain to the public just exactly what that title means.

2) The appearances on TV shows could indeed work depending on who which celebrities that Extinction team chooses to make appearances with. I'd also suggest that they appear in civilian to further ground them in the eyes of the public. Emma and Magneto would definitely need to make public appearances to better assure the masses of their "face turn."

3) Yeah, Emma and Mags needs to get into the public eye and be seen saving the day, though, by issue two it looks as if the whole team will be in the public eye.

4) This I believe would be their strongest selling point right there! It doesn't even have to be the whole Extinction team but rather select members such as Emma, Storm, and perhaps Magneto. Perhaps Storms' Avengers membership could be the genesis of such team-ups. I anything, I believe that Scott could benefit from some time spent with the Avengers. I mean he already appeared in public with Steve Rogers receiving honers. If anything there needs to be more of that for all the members. If they're going to be in the public view and take a more proactive approach what with their dwindling numbers then go the full 100%, however, still maintain a certain amount of prudence so that they don't become doormats once again,

I definitely agree with everything you said!

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@Rabbitearsblog said:

Here are a few issues with Cyclops' plan:

1) In terms of winning the public's hearts, naming the team the "Extinction Team" might make the public fear them more than respect them because even though Cyclops' team is taking down the big time villains, the name might also imply that they are going to exterminate the humans too, just based on that name alone.

2) If they want the public to think that they are heroes, then yes, making public appearances would do them good, especially going on talk shows like Jay Leno or Oprah where the public can see them as regular people dealing with special powers. However, they must be cautious about who they are telling their plans to because the paparazzi might take their statements about protecting the world in a negative light and they don't need that sort of stress to maintain a good public image.

3) There are a lot of former villains on the team, especially Magneto and Emma, and it's possible that the public might be a tad bit too leery of trusting them to lead a heroes team. If Magneto and Emma want the public's respect, then they need to perform some sort of memorable stunt such as saving the world from a meteor to gain their trust and they must not revert back to their villainous ways (although it's possible they will anyway).

4) Instead of stating that they are better than the Avengers, the X-Men needs to work with other superhero teams like the Fantastic Four and the Avengers, that are well-liked by the public to prove to the public that they truly are heroes. I know that the X-Men want to prove to the public that they can handle the situations themselves, but teaming up with superhero teams who are well-liked by the public would boost up their popularity.

I agree

1) Perhaps the team name is Cykes way of making humanity cognizant of the mutants dwindling population but also further emphasize "Extinction Teams" desire to protect and save the day regardless. However, I definitely understand where you're coming from and first chance that Scott gets he needs to explain to the public just exactly what that title means.

2) The appearances on TV shows could indeed work depending on who which celebrities that Extinction team chooses to make appearances with. I'd also suggest that they appear in civilian to further ground them in the eyes of the public. Emma and Magneto would definitely need to make public appearances to better assure the masses of their "face turn."

3) Yeah, Emma and Mags needs to get into the public eye and be seen saving the day, though, by issue two it looks as if the whole team will be in the public eye.

4) This I believe would be their strongest selling point right there! It doesn't even have to be the whole Extinction team but rather select members such as Emma, Storm, and perhaps Magneto. Perhaps Storms' Avengers membership could be the genesis of such team-ups. I anything, I believe that Scott could benefit from some time spent with the Avengers. I mean he already appeared in public with Steve Rogers receiving honers. If anything there needs to be more of that for all the members. If they're going to be in the public view and take a more proactive approach what with their dwindling numbers then go the full 100%, however, still maintain a certain amount of prudence so that they don't become doormats once again,

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@Jake Fury said:

They won't ever be accepted.

They could be, it'd be an interesting arc. Make public opinion of mutants go up, only for some new villain (or old *GLARES AT MAGNETO*) to ruin it. Stories like that, where something from the original premise is altered, are interesting to me (IE Spider-man losing his spider-sense).

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Here's what I think: why not get each of the top news magazines (Newsweek, Time, etc.) to do an interview with each member? The more you know......and one condition: each member needs to be brutally honest, without gritting their teeth. If the public is smart, they can handle the truth.

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@sickVisionz: I agree that the X-Men should just ignore the public. Some people will always be dissatisfied with everything you do, so the best solution is to ignore them and do what you do best. Cyclops' team should be more concerned about saving the world then caring about what the public wants from them because the way I see it, saving the world and saving your species is way more important then trying to impress the public.

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@madrid_san: Heh, and here I thought that I was the only one that liked the "Land smile.":) I didn't know that it even had a name!

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Overall, the X-Men shouldn't really concern themselves with what the public thinks.

That's the best option. There is no way humans will ever accept them. Even if the mutants are super peaceful, they are the future and humans are inferior and on the unavoidable path to extinction.

Mutants will eventually get all the good jobs and even the bad jobs simply because of the math where you can have one psychic doing the work of like 20 crane operators and other effective things that make hiring humans a waste of money. That will breed anger and hate and eventually that peace will turn to violence and this will never change imo until the mutants either put up with it humans are a super minority or they wage a death campaign to wipe the humans out in one fell swoop.

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@SC said:

@lykopis said:

Couple of issues for me here:

Cyclops makes mention that the world needs to be fearful of them, and yet espouses that the team need to keep each other in check in the morality department. A bit of a lit fuse there - either they are going in a specific direction, or not and either you trust these people with ensuring the survival of your species, or not. Comments like needing to protect Wolverine's "little school" to me, are little insights of his growing disconnect with the mutants he is supposedly protecting.

Also, did not the last public appearance with these "super fire-powered" mutants go horribly wrong in the eyes of the world? Not exactly instilling confidence with the human masses if they are to be seen as Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Disconnect #2.

And lastly, if you really want to impact the world - public relations wise - how about a little earthquake cleanup, drought fighting, bridge repairing action? Saving the world from planet eating villains is great, but humans are a strange species and would probably make more note of being able to function with their daily lives after a natural disaster (just an example), than fancy, leather wearing, gorgeous pin-up mutants who sit in high falutin' chairs.

Very nicely put. These threads always seem hard for me to talk about, because there are two contexts at play. Perspectives if you will. Treating the characters as real, as in immersing ourselves in the story, wondering why and how their characterization should, could lead them to decisions, or being aware that they are just puppets and their are writings their moulding them to the story. I see many of Cyclops related actions and attitudes being gimmick like. For a while now, and has made him a polarizing character which is interesting. Lots of other characters need to catch up though and I think he could be being written better. Plot almost seems against him though. So this whole new direction is a bit like a gimmick of sorts. I hope that the characterization is good though. I mean, I'd prefer a complete overhaul still, I sill feel like Fractions whole period on these books is still influencing its organic path, and personally I'd like X-Books to do as you mentioned.

Well said!! I agree that the characters go through these changes because the writers set them up in these directions. Hopefully, the writing on Uncanny X-Men will get a little better and I hope to see the characters having some kind of conflict with their personalities without over doing it.

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@lykopis said:

Couple of issues for me here:

Cyclops makes mention that the world needs to be fearful of them, and yet espouses that the team need to keep each other in check in the morality department. A bit of a lit fuse there - either they are going in a specific direction, or not and either you trust these people with ensuring the survival of your species, or not. Comments like needing to protect Wolverine's "little school" to me, are little insights of his growing disconnect with the mutants he is supposedly protecting.

Also, did not the last public appearance with these "super fire-powered" mutants go horribly wrong in the eyes of the world? Not exactly instilling confidence with the human masses if they are to be seen as Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Disconnect #2.

And lastly, if you really want to impact the world - public relations wise - how about a little earthquake cleanup, drought fighting, bridge repairing action? Saving the world from planet eating villains is great, but humans are a strange species and would probably make more note of being able to function with their daily lives after a natural disaster (just an example), than fancy, leather wearing, gorgeous pin-up mutants who sit in high falutin' chairs.

 
 
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These threads always seem hard for me to talk about, because there are two contexts at play. Perspectives if you will. Treating the characters as real, as in immersing ourselves in the story, wondering why and how their characterization should, could lead them to decisions, or being aware that they are just puppets and their are writings their moulding them to the story.  
 
I see many of Cyclops related actions and attitudes being gimmick like. For a while now, and has made him a polarizing character which is interesting. Lots of other characters need to catch up though and I think he could be being written better. Plot almost seems against him though. So this whole new direction is a bit like a gimmick of sorts. I hope that the characterization is good though. I mean, I'd prefer a complete overhaul still, I sill feel like Fractions whole period on these books is still influencing its organic path, and personally I'd like X-Books to do as you mentioned. 
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Taking off the giant blue condom would be a start...
This.
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@madrid_san said:

@lykopis said:

Couple of issues for me here:

Cyclops makes mention that the world needs to be fearful of them, and yet espouses that the team need to keep each other in check in the morality department. A bit of a lit fuse there - either they are going in a specific direction, or not and either you trust these people with ensuring the survival of your species, or not. Comments like needing to protect Wolverine's "little school" to me, are little insights of his growing disconnect with the mutants he is supposedly protecting.

Also, did not the last public appearance with these "super fire-powered" mutants go horribly wrong in the eyes of the world? Not exactly instilling confidence with the human masses if they are to be seen as Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Disconnect #2.

And lastly, if you really want to impact the world - public relations wise - how about a little earthquake cleanup, drought fighting, bridge repairing action? Saving the world from planet eating villains is great, but humans are a strange species and would probably make more note of being able to function with their daily lives after a natural disaster (just an example), than fancy, leather wearing, gorgeous pin-up mutants who sit in high falutin' chairs.

Magneto has already saved SF from an earthquake in #534.1

I quote Cyclops "If this team saves humanity enough, people will realize how badly they need us."

It's a short term problem and a short term solution to scare humanity so they don't bother trying to lynch mutants because of the fear they have of them. Most important thing is to live today so they can fight for tomorrow and have a chance at co-existence.

I meant more along the lines of continuing to help in that way - rather than instill fear? When Kid Omega forced the leaders in the UN to spurt out truths, the world reacted with releasing sentinels instead of being grateful the truth was forced out of people they chose (or in some cases didn't choose), to lead them. Granted, mostly countries known for the intolerance were the trouble makers, but still. And the quote from Cyclops can pretty much cover the entire run of the X-Men. Still didn't make a difference in the eyes of the world after all these years.

Instilling fear comes with it own gambit of problems. No one likes to be reminded that the guy standing next to you can squish you like a bug, even if he is wearing the mantle of protector. Resentment builds. But the reverse can be true as well, and maybe its an issue of the shoe being on the other foot. It'll be interesting to see how the writers take this. At the very least, no more fun psionic conferences between Cyclops, Emma and Mayor Sinclair in this new world. The gauntlet had been thrown when the world sat back and allowed Utopia and mutants to be attacked. I agree that something has to give.

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The simple fact of the matter is, you can't force someone to accept you, and that just seems like what Cyclops is too hell-bent on doing. He is just simply trying too hard. Perhaps its just too much idealism present but it just seems Cyke is trying far too much to do something that can never be. This is not going to turn out well I think.

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@ApatheticAvenger said:

@One_Eye said:

I agree, with Cykes as well. I like the morally grey vibe of his team in that in order to make an impact there are lines that he'll cross. It isn't as if the X-Men have ever been well-received by the public, their good deeds go unnoticed and even worse, punished. Scott has what I believe, a very natural reaction. In order to make a statement to the public he's gonna have to flex some muscle. Dealing some street-level justice isn't going to send a strong enough message nor is kissing babies on the cheek. They're going to have to stop some major level threats and it's going to need to be in view of the public. Sure, they've said countless timelines, realities, universes, and sort, however, the key difference is that no one as far as Earth was there to see it.

Having Storm there as a moral compass and one to question his orders makes sense even if Ororo believes that she's only being used solely for her power. If anything, her being an Avenger could potentially be a good PR statement as well considering how beloved the team is once again. I mean, Logan's has team members on the Avengers, including himself so why shouldn't Scott have his own Avenger on is squad?

In 'Fear Itself' it's been shown that the mayor herself was willing to put Utopia at risk if it meant saving her city and Scott understood that, however, the key difference is that Scott said that he'd never do such a thing and the shoe was indeed on the other foot.

So yeah, I think that Scott has justifiable mindset and though his plan has it's doubters, I'd like to think that someone witin his team will help him iron out the wrinkles.

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Well said! I agree that since the mutant's existence is on the line here, they would have to cross certain lines to prove to the public they are the good guys.

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Just save people. Screw the humans who want their butts kissed, they will never accept mutants. TRUST ME, I know..."If this team saves humanity enough, people will realize how badly they need us."

What would be funny, if they did have Herman Cain-like mutants, who kiss humans @$$es, and then talk bad about other mutants constantly as if to say, "Our mutants are so much better than their mutants", LOL!!!!

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And maybe Emma should put on some more clothes.

I don't think Marvel will ever change that. She won't be....Emma Frosty-like. :P

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Here are a few issues with Cyclops' plan:

1) In terms of winning the public's hearts, naming the team the "Extinction Team" might make the public fear them more than respect them because even though Cyclops' team is taking down the big time villains, the name might also imply that they are going to exterminate the humans too, just based on that name alone.

2) If they want the public to think that they are heroes, then yes, making public appearances would do them good, especially going on talk shows like Jay Leno or Oprah where the public can see them as regular people dealing with special powers. However, they must be cautious about who they are telling their plans to because the paparazzi might take their statements about protecting the world in a negative light and they don't need that sort of stress to maintain a good public image.

3) There are a lot of former villains on the team, especially Magneto and Emma, and it's possible that the public might be a tad bit too leery of trusting them to lead a heroes team. If Magneto and Emma want the public's respect, then they need to perform some sort of memorable stunt such as saving the world from a meteor to gain their trust and they must not revert back to their villainous ways (although it's possible they will anyway).

4) Instead of stating that they are better than the Avengers, the X-Men needs to work with other superhero teams like the Fantastic Four and the Avengers, that are well-liked by the public to prove to the public that they truly are heroes. I know that the X-Men want to prove to the public that they can handle the situations themselves, but teaming up with superhero teams who are well-liked by the public would boost up their popularity.

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To me the way they win people over is to be uber-badasses. It is like they are so cool that people hate them then love them. Ultimate rebels kind of like some bands.

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@lykopis said:

Couple of issues for me here:

Cyclops makes mention that the world needs to be fearful of them, and yet espouses that the team need to keep each other in check in the morality department. A bit of a lit fuse there - either they are going in a specific direction, or not and either you trust these people with ensuring the survival of your species, or not. Comments like needing to protect Wolverine's "little school" to me, are little insights of his growing disconnect with the mutants he is supposedly protecting.

Also, did not the last public appearance with these "super fire-powered" mutants go horribly wrong in the eyes of the world? Not exactly instilling confidence with the human masses if they are to be seen as Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Disconnect #2.

And lastly, if you really want to impact the world - public relations wise - how about a little earthquake cleanup, drought fighting, bridge repairing action? Saving the world from planet eating villains is great, but humans are a strange species and would probably make more note of being able to function with their daily lives after a natural disaster (just an example), than fancy, leather wearing, gorgeous pin-up mutants who sit in high falutin' chairs.

Magneto has already saved SF from an earthquake in #534.1

I quote Cyclops "If this team saves humanity enough, people will realize how badly they need us."

It's a short term problem and a short term solution to scare humanity so they don't bother trying to lynch mutants because of the fear they have of them. Most important thing is to live today so they can fight for tomorrow and have a chance at co-existence.

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@madrid_san I dig when he's smiling

I dig it too ;) especially the trademark "Land smile"

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Since the X-Men don't have the luxury of being respected, being feared might be the next best thing. Remember, Cyclops has to consider the safety of more than just Utopia. Wolverine's new school is a prime target. Maybe people would be more hesitant to attack it if they new it would draw a massive retaliation from the "Extinction Team".

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Couple of issues for me here:

Cyclops makes mention that the world needs to be fearful of them, and yet espouses that the team need to keep each other in check in the morality department. A bit of a lit fuse there - either they are going in a specific direction, or not and either you trust these people with ensuring the survival of your species, or not. Comments like needing to protect Wolverine's "little school" to me, are little insights of his growing disconnect with the mutants he is supposedly protecting.

Also, did not the last public appearance with these "super fire-powered" mutants go horribly wrong in the eyes of the world? Not exactly instilling confidence with the human masses if they are to be seen as Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Disconnect #2.

And lastly, if you really want to impact the world - public relations wise - how about a little earthquake cleanup, drought fighting, bridge repairing action? Saving the world from planet eating villains is great, but humans are a strange species and would probably make more note of being able to function with their daily lives after a natural disaster (just an example), than fancy, leather wearing, gorgeous pin-up mutants who sit in high falutin' chairs.

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@madrid_san I dig when he's smiling
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He can start by turning that frown upside down. Lol

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If the X-men are going to be celebrities Cyke should be the next Simon Cowell or with his costume should i say.........Simon Cowl 
 
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 I think Cyclops is taking the wrong turn here. Making the public fear mutants is only going to make the mutant race seem like a threat to the rest of the society, which would make the political atmosphere more favourable for restrictive mutant laws and morally dubious programs like the Sentinel project. They should try to build bridges by showing the rest of the world that mutants only want to live in peace as equal members of the society, and in order to do that their PR strategy should be all about presenting famous mutants as non-threatening, peaceful, everyday people in the media.

X-Men tried this approach before. I don't remember that it stopped mutant haters.
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I think Cyclops is taking the wrong turn here. Making the public fear mutants is only going to make the mutant race seem like a threat to the rest of the society, which would make the political atmosphere more favourable for restrictive mutant laws and morally dubious programs like the Sentinel project. They should try to build bridges by showing the rest of the world that mutants only want to live in peace as equal members of the society, and in order to do that their PR strategy should be all about presenting famous mutants as non-threatening, peaceful, everyday people in the media.

I understand Cyclops's reasoning, but I think his more and more militant approach to leading his people is eventually going to doom them all.

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@One_Eye said:

I agree, with Cykes as well. I like the morally grey vibe of his team in that in order to make an impact there are lines that he'll cross. It isn't as if the X-Men have ever been well-received by the public, their good deeds go unnoticed and even worse, punished. Scott has what I believe, a very natural reaction. In order to make a statement to the public he's gonna have to flex some muscle. Dealing some street-level justice isn't going to send a strong enough message nor is kissing babies on the cheek. They're going to have to stop some major level threats and it's going to need to be in view of the public. Sure, they've said countless timelines, realities, universes, and sort, however, the key difference is that no one as far as Earth was there to see it.

Having Storm there as a moral compass and one to question his orders makes sense even if Ororo believes that she's only being used solely for her power. If anything, her being an Avenger could potentially be a good PR statement as well considering how beloved the team is once again. I mean, Logan's has team members on the Avengers, including himself so why shouldn't Scott have his own Avenger on is squad?

In 'Fear Itself' it's been shown that the mayor herself was willing to put Utopia at risk if it meant saving her city and Scott understood that, however, the key difference is that Scott said that he'd never do such a thing and the shoe was indeed on the other foot.

So yeah, I think that Scott has justifiable mindset and though his plan has it's doubters, I'd like to think that someone witin his team will help him iron out the wrinkles.

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I agree, with Cykes as well. I like the morally grey vibe of his team in that in order to make an impact there are lines that he'll cross. It isn't as if the X-Men have ever been well-received by the public, their good deeds go unnoticed and even worse, punished. Scott has what I believe, a very natural reaction. In order to make a statement to the public he's gonna have to flex some muscle. Dealing some street-level justice isn't going to send a strong enough message nor is kissing babies on the cheek. They're going to have to stop some major level threats and it's going to need to be in view of the public. Sure, they've said countless timelines, realities, universes, and sort, however, the key difference is that no one as far as Earth was there to see it.

Having Storm there as a moral compass and one to question his orders makes sense even if Ororo believes that she's only being used solely for her power. If anything, her being an Avenger could potentially be a good PR statement as well considering how beloved the team is once again. I mean, Logan's has team members on the Avengers, including himself so why shouldn't Scott have his own Avenger on is squad?

In 'Fear Itself' it's been shown that the mayor herself was willing to put Utopia at risk if it meant saving her city and Scott understood that, however, the key difference is that Scott said that he'd never do such a thing and the shoe was indeed on the other foot.

So yeah, I think that Scott has justifiable mindset and though his plan has it's doubters, I'd like to think that someone witin his team will help him iron out the wrinkles.

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@HotSauceCommittee: And running around with Tom Cruise hair flowing in the wind or a ridiculous half-cowl is any better?:P

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He can start by turning that frown upside down. Lol

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imagine if the xmen wore sponsers, like in tiger and bunny. they could like represent coke :P

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Think its not so much Cyclops that needs to adjust (though he is the one with the PR problem), than it is the civilians and politicians of Marvel Earth that have to get over their fear and stop tolerating the hate-mongers that keep following the x-men around.