Off My Mind: Did Batman Really Wet His Pants?

NO NO NO NO.. can't accept this sorry ...

WTF?!

yeah, this is kind of F'd up. This image will be stuck in my head when i go back and read year one again.

I really don't see what the big deal is. There are a lot of instances in comics where a character is portrayed a certain way/information given about them that get swept under the rug and never mentioned again. This will just be one of them.

LMAO.

It doesn't change how I feel about Batman but I'm afraid it will haunt him forever. But about this story, is it canon or not?

From his Twitter Kevin Smith had this to say:
 
  Via @ lastgeek "Why did you make Batman piss himself?" Batman SAY he pissed himself? I think you read too much into the joke Baphomet made. 
 
  Via @ Irregularcog "You wrote it like it was 'You're saying you WET YOUR PANTS?!'" But it's the OTHER guy saying it, not Bats. Difference. 
 
  Via @ Irregularcog "Gyre #6. Batman pissing his pants in scene from Year One? Why?" He didn't; he said he had a bladder spasm. Difference. 
 
And while this isn't on him wetting himself it's still interesting:
 
  Via @ denmark116 "How long do we wait for volume 2?" GYRE Vol. 2 starts up after the first of the year. And it's a MUCH more familiar Bats...

I can see how from now, any battle thread with batman will have a recurring argument against him from the opposition...

" NO NO NO NO.. can't accept this sorry ... "

Eh, Bats was just exaggerating for effect and to sympathize with the other character. It actually shows a more human side to Batman rather than the well-known Super-hero type. By saying that he "wet himself", it shouldn't be taken seriously, but was just say that he at one time was really scared to do the things he does today. When Bruce Wayne first became The Batman I think everyone assumed that he would be scared to do certain things like swing on the batline or fight the Joker. Now that he has been Batman for about a hundred years (exaggeration) he has pretty much gotten used to being The Batman and has more or less adjusted his"bladder" sorta speak........
 
But if he really did "wet himself", I wonder what Babs reaction would be? lol.

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" NO NO NO NO.. can't accept this sorry ... "

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" NO NO NO NO.. can't accept this sorry ... "

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I have the feeling we will see this in the battle threads. "

"...and making Joker strongly femenine in his first Batman miniseries, Kevin really doesn't get how to write characters. "

" This just shows how horribly crappy Kevin Smith is as a writer. Between making Batman Pee his pants and making Joker strongly femenine in his first Batman miniseries, Kevin really doesn't get how to write characters. Its pathetic almost to see how lame his writing is considering i've liked his movies for the most part.  I think him and a few other should definetly stay clear of writing comics, because they don't understand how to write characters. "

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" NO NO NO NO.. can't accept this sorry ... "

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This reminds me of when Marvel screwed one of the most awesome story lines ever in X-Men history with New X-Men. If you haven't read that series run I'm not gonna ruin it here, however Marvel later pissed all over that story arc (Like the tie in?) later with crap that didn't make any sense and everyone called them on crap storytelling.  
I still refuse to acknowledge their tie off as actual X-Men cannon.  
As far as I'm concerned a certain two people at the end of that story are still dead and that particular one person they have in the x-books now is a clone and that other person they made as an actual character never truly existed. If they want to screw up continuity then I can too damn it!
If you haven't read the first volume of New X-Men pick up the Tpb or the hardcover, it's totally worth it, trust me. 
Now as for Batman, I get that Kevin was trying to make him appear as being more human than most heroes however still making him admit that he pissed himself is way too funny and kinda kills the bad-assness (is that a word?) that Batman usually gives off. So in that respect I can understand why people have a problem with that.

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I don't blame "bad writing". I blame bad editing. I don't care if it's Kevin Smith, Alan Moore, James Robinson, Kurt Busiek, Marv Wolfman - whoever it is. That's what an editor is for, isn't it? To catch stuff. Not to just rubber stamp it....Now this has got me wondering what kind of other stuff got tweaked or edited out, if this was left in. 
 
Kinda like how Alan Moore was shocked that DC actually let him cripple Barbara Gordon. On Earth-D (for Earth-Dave) that is an Elseworlds story. Hey, if DC is going to bring the Multiverse back so that everybody is happy - I get MY OWN WORLD where things go my way!     

That last issue of The Widening Gyre is one screw-up after another, right up to the final page, which is frankly painful in its predictability. If only the bladder thing was the only stupid and incoherent thing in the book.

If. Only.

I'd go over it, but someone else has already made a great job of listing the many reasons why Kevin Smith should be banned for ever writing another Batman comic: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/07/29/worst-of-the-worst-batman-the-widening-gyre-6/

If written correctly, almost no idea is off-limits or too weird, but poor characterisation ("hello, dude-whom-I've-known-for-all-of-5-seconds, here's the Batcave, and I'm actually Bruce Wayne! Oh, and here's my future wife, in case you want to tell a few super-villains!") and lazy storytelling (shock! twist ending! ZOMG!! *yawn*) are unforgivable.

I don't personally consider TWG as canon, not because I "refuse" to see my precious Batman taken down a notch (something that good - emphasis on *good* - writers have done many, many times), but because whoever Kevin Smith's character is, it's just some dude dressed up as Batman who acts in ways that Bruce Wayne never would.

Congratulations, Kevin.  You've successfully insulted an icon AND managed to get that little line into continuity.  Well done.  Now can you toddle off and go smoke more weed with your friend Jay ?

I disagree. 

This is Stupid.

There's a reason Kevin Smith constantly admits that he's really terrible at everything he does. Someone must think he's joking, because they keep throwing money at him.

as far as im concerned, The Widening Gyre doesnt exist to me.

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 Hell No.

I love the early Kevin Smith films. Just about everything right up until after Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was pretty good (Clerks and Dogma were freakin' great). However, I have never enjoyed any comics he's written. Between odd characterizations and bouts of severe lateness, I'd say with pretty good certainty that if it wasn't for his name value he wouldn't be getting too many writing gigs.

I don't know the context of this scan but the way he tells the story it sounds like the "incident" happened near the beginning of his career, and if so than I  think what he said is fine. No matter what trauma you have been through you don't just suddenly become the tough as nails Batman that we all know, so it is very possible that if he accidentally made an explosion bigger than intended that he would loose control of his bladder for a second, especially if under-experienced.

He wears "Ooops I Crapped My Pants"

What?!

What the "BEEP"?!

Oh how the mighty have fallen. Kevin Smith wrote a few funny movies. Then he wrote like 10 more that sucked on par with M Night  Shyamalan.   
 
Kevin Smith wrote a good Dare Devil run. And the rest so far. Suck on par with.... Well there is no other comic writer that sucks as bad as Kevin Smith. 
 
He ALWAYS has to inflict his personal sense of reality into his comics. The Black Cat was date raped and that is why she became the Black Cat. The Joker wants to have anal sex, Batman wets himself and beats up his girlfriend after giving her 11 orgasms?  Kevin Smith clearly has problems. I'm sure he is only shadowed by Caligula at his sex anonymous meetings.  I hope he reads these comments.  KEVIN YOU SUCK you degenerate pervert. 

" I really don't see what the big deal is. There are a lot of instances in comics where a character is portrayed a certain way/information given about them that get swept under the rug and never mentioned again. This will just be one of them. "

wow you guys are really making a big deal out of nothing....honestly who cares?   it's a mini series that has no ties to regular continuity....if you read it and like it then good for you, if you read it and hate then good for you, if you didn't read it (like me) then good for you
 
I honestly hate when people piss all over a writer's work...he or she is the one writing the book...not you...if you don't like it then do something about it....start submitting your work to the comic book companies, get big, then write a mini that changes the continuity of whatever you dislike....that's the only way you're going to change anything

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, it does reiterate Batman's essential humanity, which I feel is a huge part of his enduring popularity as a character. As Seanbaby once said, "It didn't matter if Superman forgot about his cape and got pulled through a garbage disposal. On a good day he'd save us all, and on a bad day he was still invincible." Batman doesn't have things this easy; beneath all his gadgetry, skills, and general badassery, he's just as squishable as you or me. He didn't just wake up one day and say "Ok, I'm Batman now," and presto, become the character he is today. He had to learn to overcome the natural fears and insecurities that anyone would feel in a life-threatening situation, no matter how well you prepared for it, and I think occasional glimpses of the man beneath the bat only make it easier to relate to him. 
 
Now, that being said, I think this particular incident was atrociously handled. It took what could have been a very personal look into Batman's essential humanity (something that could have added even more depth to his character) and basically ruined it, turning it into more of an inappropriate gag than anything else. I'd liken it to the revelation of Rogue's fling with Sentry: handled properly, it could have been a powerful and defining moment for a character. Handled improperly, well...just go read it and you'll see how that turns out.

hey you screw up your pyrotechnics when standing over them, you'll pee a bit too.

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It is physically impossible to pee your pants

 I'd liken it to the revelation of Rogue's fling with Sentry: handled properly, it could have been a powerful and defining moment for a character. Handled improperly, well...just go read it and you'll see how that turns out. "

*Gasp! I bet next they'll say Batman get's scared when he's being shot at! 

Kevin Smith's Earth. Full of canon. Full of b*ll****. 
 
Earth-KS or Earth-BS...

Really? Why does anyone care about this? To be fair, If we were Batman for a day, we'd crap our pants at the stuff he does on regular basis; Pray to god, it isn't the day he's on the Justice league or you would scared out of your mind. Plus, this is one of Batman's first adventures so its clear to see that he was still a novice back then.

In Year one it says none of you ARE safe(correct) 
And in Gyre it says none of you IS safe. 
hahahaha really?