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NYCC 2013: Batman Panel (Spoilers Abound!)

Be ready for some game-changing stories throughout the Bat-Family.

We're here at New York Comic Con in a large, dark room -- not the BatCave, but the panel room where the brains behind BATMAN are here to tell us what's coming up in the Dark Knight's world. Up on stage: Scott Snyder, Greg Capullo, James Tynion IV, Marc Andreyko, Kyle Higgins, Ann Nocenti, John Layman, and Pete Tomasi. Get ready for some spoilers!

The next year of BATMAN -- just in time for the 75th anniversary -- is going to be some of the "nuttiest, craziest stuff [we've] ever seen," according to Scott Snyder.

ZERO YEAR is Snyder' and Capullo's reimagining of Batman's origin story. Though it's a classic, YEAR ONE doesn't fully translate with all of the changes made in the New 52, and Batman isn't operating in the same world that he was in 1986. ZERO YEAR takes us through Batman's origin in a modern world -- one with threats like IEDs and terror plots -- and while the creative team has immense respect for YEAR ONE (to which we'll see many nods), they'll be doing some very new things.

SPOILER ALERT #1: In BATMAN #25, Riddler has blacked out the city of Gotham and dared them to restore the grid, but that's just in the background. Batman also has to face off with another major villain, and struggles with his developing partnership with Jim Gordon. Batman doesn't trust cops, and he especially resents Gordon, based on some of the assumptions he's made regarding the night Thomas and Martha Wayne died (another spoiler: Bruce doesn't know the whole story). Get ready for a series of explosive issues and a three-part story involving a big villain. The whole story is a giant homage to everything Snyder and Capullo love about Batman (including the animated series!).

BATMAN ETERNAL, a new weekly series, debuts this fall, bringing us to our second piece of big news -- a true SPOILER!

SPOILER ALERT #2: Stephanie Brown is back! Look out for Issue #3 of BATMAN ETERNAL, where we'll get to see a fresh new Steph.

BATMAN AND TWO-FACE explores the duality of many Gotham characters, including -- who else? -- Harvey Dent. In case you've ever wondered how Harvey Dent sleeps (with one eye open), Issue #24 will be revelatory.

Look for some exciting gadgets -- including the Bat-Plane -- in Issue #24 of DETECTIVE COMICS. Fabok is a fan of drawing high-tech gadgetry, and Layman wrote a script that gave him plenty of opportunity to do so. Later, we'll see a Gordon-centric issue. Layman likes to focus on the detective side of Batman (it's that title, after all!)

BATWOMAN gets a new writer in Marc Andreyko, who just wrapped the Zero Year issue from Kate's point of view. She's home from WestPoint due to a family tragedy, and we'll get to see shades of the woman who will later become Batwoman.

NIGHTWING has been focused on the Windy City lately, bringing Dick Grayson into contact with the man who killed his parents. Complicating his pursuit of Tony Zucco is a reimagined version of The Prankster, who's wreaking havoc on the city and holding its citizens hostage. On the horizon after things wrap up with Prankster: an annual, set back in Gotham, where Dick returns to clear out his loft. Barbara Gordon will co-star in the annual.

SPOILER ALERT #3: the ZERO YEAR tie-in for NIGHTWING involves a young Dick Grayson navigating the streets of Gotham at night in an "urban fairy tale."

CATWOMAN has been a thrill for Ann Nocenti to write, and she revealed that she wanted to give Catwoman a "Q" (weapons and gadgets aide) and a cat.

James Tynion IV is excited to be on the team for BATMAN ETERNAL, and will be seeding some stories in the past that Snyder will pick up and run with in the primary BATMAN series. In RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS, Jason Todd has just taken over the League of Assassins, and Issue #24 will play out like the final act of a thrilling movie. We'll find out who's been masterminding the whole thing, and learn the real motives behind Jason's memory-wipe. In TALON, Calvin Rose will have a reluctant team-up with Batman, and bring some of the Dark Knight's biggest fears to fruition.

That's all for the previews, announcements, and spoilers in the Bat-Family so far, but we'll be sure to let you know everything we hear at New York Comic Con.

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Posted by Wolverine08

Cool.

Edited by Dark_Guyver

Good time to be a Bat fan!!

Posted by batmannflash

Batman 24 was really good and I'm excited for more. More importantly, Stephanie Brown is coming back. I'm sort of worried when they say a "fresh new Steph," though.

Edited by ULTRAstarkiller

Nice

Posted by daredevil21134

Hopefully Helena Bertinelli comes back next

Posted by AllStarSuperman

is Talon good? im thinking of getting the first trade?

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Posted by cobra88king8

Batman Eternal is out in the Spring, not Fall

Edited by saoakden

@allstarsuperman I think its great. I recommend checking it out.

& Sweet on the Batman panel. I can hear a number of fans cheering now that a certain character is coming back. Man I'm excited.

Posted by DocFishstick

i am a big bat fan. can't wait for all this good stuff to come. man i would love a book with red robin and red hood together as a team. who esle thinks this is a good idea?

Edited by JairamGanpat

The Dark Knight's future as a character is ironically bright lol

Posted by cyberkryptonian

that is interesting.

Posted by ThorBoy

Skipped the panel. Too much to do at comic con. Excellent news though

Posted by LCazT1996

More importantly, Stephanie Brown is coming back. I'm sort of worried when they say a "fresh new Steph," though.

They basically said that Tynion has a fresh new take on her character. She's going back to her Spoiler persona and will be a main character in the Batman: Eternal series. My interpretation is that he has a new and interesting way of fitting her into the New 52.

Posted by Mulder15

Finally Steph is back. Now we just need Cassie.

Posted by LCazT1996

is Talon good? im thinking of getting the first trade?

Yeah I think its fantastic. For a (very short) period of time, I bought it instead of any other Bat-family books because I wanted to be sure that I had the money each month to get it. (I later went back and got the Nightwing and Batman issues I missed, but I totally got enough of my Gotham/Dark Knight fix for those few months by just getting Talon). Basically: GET THE TRADE ALREADY, MAN!

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Posted by bob808
@mulder15 said:

Finally Steph is back. Now we just need Cassie.

and we need Wally West

Posted by LCazT1996

@bob808 said:
@mulder15 said:

Finally Steph is back. Now we just need Cassie.

and we need Wally West

And Donna Troy.

Posted by CuddleBear

Well at least I will get to see what all the fuss is about over this returning character

Posted by iceslick

@daredevil21134: I doubt they will have Helena Bertinelli back because we already have Helena Wayne in The New 52 even though she's from Earth 2. And I'm pretty sure DC said they aren't planning to duplicate characters...and oh wait a minute I remember reading in The Huntress New 52 mini Helena Bertinelli is already dead. I remember Helena Wayne killed the Italian mobsters that killed her and Helena Wayne did disguise herself as Helena Bertinelli even though her name is actually Helena Wayne. I'm so sorry to crush your dreams buddy. I wish she was back too though. :-(

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wow this is really cool. I' so excited for Batman. Shame they didnt talk about the new creative team for detective. but if its at a 3.99 price point i dont know how many i will pick up. I love manapul and bucc. stoked for more Batman though i am loving Zero Year after issue 24.

Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose

"BATWOMAN gets a new writer in Marc Andreyko, who just wrapped the Zero Year issue from Kate's point of view. She's home from WestPoint due to a family tragedy, and we'll get to see shades of the woman who will later become Batwoman."

Hmm. I think that means her timelines been changed. I thought Zero Year was supposed to be set about six years before the New 52 started, but Kate left the army at least seven years before. This is based on the flashbacks in GO, and the fact that some things were definitely the same in the flashbacks in Batwoman #0: Interlude, so I suppose it's possible that certain parts are now different post-flashpoint. If Zero Year is six years before the New 52, then Kate should have been in her directionless post-army, pre-meeting Batman period, and therefore would have been in Gotham anyway.

That's kind of annoying that a change seems to have been made, but I suppose some things did change after Flashpoint. I wonder what this family tragedy could be though.

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I was sour about Batman Eternal but since she's back, I'm reading it.

Posted by M3th

Of course tHe first tHing ComicVine posts about NYCC is DC related.

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Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@bob808 said:
@mulder15 said:

Finally Steph is back. Now we just need Cassie.

and we need Wally West

And Donna Troy.

And The Atom (Preferably Palmer).

And Dr. Mid-Nite

And Hourman (Rex Tyler) + Liberty Belle

And Renee Montoya

And Elongated Man

And Plastic Man

And Metamorpho

And Adam Strange

And Miss Martian

And Jean Paul Valley

And Garth (he exists but we've yet to see him)

And, hell, the rest of the JSA.

Am I missing anyone?

Edited by THEOCITYLEGEND

@allstarsuperman: I was actually pleasantly surprised by it.

This is a very good time to be a Bat fan!

Posted by danhimself

lmao...Nocenti wants to give Catwoman a cat? man Nocenti really knows her Catwoman lol /sarcasm

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@lcazt1996 said:

@bob808 said:
@mulder15 said:

Finally Steph is back. Now we just need Cassie.

and we need Wally West

And Donna Troy.

And The Atom (Preferably Palmer).

And Dr. Mid-Nite

And Hourman (Rex Tyler) + Liberty Belle

And Renee Montoya

And Elongated Man

And Plastic Man

And Metamorpho

And Adam Strange

And Miss Martian

And Jean Paul Valley

And Garth (he exists but we've yet to see him)

And, hell, the rest of the JSA.

Am I missing anyone?

im gonna take it your one of those earth 2 haters?

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Posted by haydenclaireheroes

Here are my thoughts:

Posted by AllStarSuperman

@allstarsuperman: I was actually pleasantly surprised by it.

This is a very good time to be a Bat fan!

thanks, it may be a good time, but theres no way im affording a weekly series.

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Posted by Mercy_

lmao...Nocenti wants to give Catwoman a cat? man Nocenti really knows her Catwoman lol /sarcasm

this book makes me really mad :(

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Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@allstarsuperman: Noooo I love Earth 2! I just want the missing team mates to show up!

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@mercy_ said:

@danhimself said:

lmao...Nocenti wants to give Catwoman a cat? man Nocenti really knows her Catwoman lol /sarcasm

this book makes me really mad :(

I really don't understand why it's selling and why DC hasn't replaced her yet...she really is just a terrible writer

Posted by ragdollpurps

@mercy_ said:

@danhimself said:

lmao...Nocenti wants to give Catwoman a cat? man Nocenti really knows her Catwoman lol /sarcasm

this book makes me really mad :(

Ugh. She needs to get booted from the title already.

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@theocitylegend said:

@allstarsuperman: I was actually pleasantly surprised by it.

This is a very good time to be a Bat fan!

thanks, it may be a good time, but theres no way im affording a weekly series.

I'm hoping the weekly series is cheaper than usual so its easily affordable for readers. If its 2.99 or 3.99 a week its not going to do well, in my opinion.

Posted by AllStarSuperman

@allstarsuperman: Noooo I love Earth 2! I just want the missing team mates to show up!

oh, okay that's good, because Earth 2 is awesome. I hope Batman doesn't steal Jay Garricks spot light though, that will piss me off. I think if we wait the all the old JSA characters will be back. I don't know if I ever have hopes for wally donna Cassandra type characters to come back.

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Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee

@allstarsuperman: Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about 2 of the 3 Trinity members returning, in what ever capacity. However, since Stephanie has returned I do have SOME hope for returning characters...but its a glimmer.

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Posted by Mercy_

@danhimself: @ragdollpurps: I really don't understand how it's doing as good as it is....it's not a good book by any means :( I'd love to see a new writer on there. Preferably Brubaker....but doubting that's in the realm of possibility.

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Posted by danhimself

@mercy_: some people will buy crappy books just based on character loyalty...well apparently a lot of people do...maybe they're not actually reading the book

it would be interesting if there were a way to figure out the turnover rate on books...like how many people dropped a book with a certain issue and how many people started the book with the same issue

because my guess is that Catwoman must have a high turnover rate

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Nightwing might be killed guys.

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@danhimself: The reason that book makes me so mad is because I love the character so much. I've turned people who come into the shop away from it.

Ohhhhhh that's really interesting.

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Posted by ragdollpurps

@mercy_: I blame newer comic readers. They have no idea how Selina should be characterized, they just know how iconic she is and so they shell out money for this crap simply because it's Catwoman.

And there's people like I used to be, who will buy the book just to support the character, but fck that.

Posted by Kewirje

@mercy_: There have been rumors that Layman might be replacing Nocenti.

Posted by Mercy_

@ragdollpurps: I agree with that, but I think that dan also hit a point in there being people who will buy a title no matter the quality if it has their favorite character in it. And then tehre are others like us, who get even more pissed off at bad writing for the very same reason.

I hadn't read the Brubaker run before the New 52 and I ended up picking up the first five or so issues (the first arc). And even without the prior knowledge I knew that it wasn't right to her character. And even regardless of that, the ridiculous amount of fan service.... SMH

I would much rather drop the money for the collected Brubaker run than drop a single cent on the current run.

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Edited by danhimself

@mercy_: I imagine that you feel the same way about Catwoman's New 52 book as I do about Superboy's New 52 book

Edited by ragdollpurps

@mercy_: Yeah, I was one of those who stuck with it for a bit out of character loyalty. I waited for it to get better but it didn't so I said screw it.

@kewirje said:

@mercy_: There have been rumors that Layman might be replacing Nocenti.

I wish, but I really doubt it. He's busy writing other series, like Chew.

Posted by Mercy_

@ragdollpurps: Here's to hoping somebody awesome comes along soon. I think DeConnick would nail it, but she's already writing so much

@danhimself: If it makes you legitimately angry, then yes, I do. This book is probably my biggest disappointment of the DCnU

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Edited by danhimself

@mercy_: that's an easy way of putting it lol....there's not much that really makes me want to be violent but thinking about the needless changes that they've made to Superboy since the start of the New 52 makes me want to punch babies...the news today nearly gave me an aneurism

Posted by Mercy_

@danhimself: yeah....I was really confused by that tbh. Haven't been following the Superman family of books though.

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