New Captain America Revealed

You know what would be pretty cool? If they called him American Eagle or something to mesh his new look with his old identity. I feel like Cap will always be Steve Rogers to me and a majority of the comic reading community

I completely disagree, outrage I think is more about the change itself rather what the change specifically is. If some new random dude and not a chick became thor people would still be upset.

it might be good but why not give him a full mask. A on the head covering his head/hair. As Steve/Bucky/Burnside/Punisher got.

I want the same outfit as Cap just worn by Sam.

@noj: when Bucky became Cap there was no issues now Sam is and everyone panties in a bunch!! smh

@matt12w121 said:

yea!!

It's not about race with me. Marvel is writing out Nick Fury and replacing him with a black man just to please a certain group. What about the fans who love Nick fury just the way he is ? So screw you to the life long fans who have made the company a success? And I'm not white just so you know and my son is mixed.

And like I said before if this was Luke Cage being changed into a white guy just so say Tom Cruise could play him, there would be an out cry.

And now Thor is "Unworthy" of Mjolnir ? Why? To bring in more female readers. I feel it's cheap and a slap in the face of true fans. And yes I'm well aware that it's only temporary, but a slap is still a slap. They could easily showcase the likes of Storm with top notch art and a great story teller to pull in females, they don't have to go this rout and segregate a large portion of long time fans just to please the few girls who they do bring in.

For the record, Sam has been Cap before. It was only for one issue of Sentinels of Liberty (#9) in 1999, but he has done it.

it wasn't to please black people. to please the fans of Ultimate comics. he was the most popular creation coming out of the Ultimate comics.

there has been black/spanish/asian characters that turned white and no one complains. no bats an eye. Luke Cage might be hard to swallow once you look how he was created. with a blaxploitation vibe but it would mostly go on without a hitch in the comic and by fans like you.

hasn't thor been unworthy before? sam is a black guy its a slap. but everyone loves bucky as cap...i hate saying it but I think some of you are just racist.

of course, these changes aren't permanent. Change the characters for a while, drum up controversy and sells and then bring back the original when the movie comes out to entice the old and new readers.

Congrats to Sam Wilson becoming the New Captain America I hope he has a good run wielding the shield. I know that Steve Rogers will be back soon, and made the choice for Sam to take his place

Ridiculous................. Sign this petition to help get back Steve Rogers

https://www.change.org/petitions/marvel-comics-keep-steve-rogers-as-captain-america

I thought it would be jet black tbh

@saoakden said:

This should be interesting. So it's Falcon being Captain America. So Captain Falcon?

I want to see Captain Falcon fight Sam Wilson. If Sam Wilson does a Falcon Punch & says Falcon Punch I'm going to lose it.

I was astonished no one was making captain falcon jokes

Bucky and Cap have a long military history that makes that easier to swallow in the same vein as Dick Grayson donning the cape and cowl. And I could care less what you hate saying but I'm not racist guy, so get that strait. If you knew me in person you would know that.

And what exactly is a fan like me guy ?

Wait what happened to iron man? Do we know who's replacing him?

@verotikryptonite: You didn't get my point. I never said it wasn't a stunt. I said it was a perfectly logical stunt for a company like Marvel, which is part of an industry that aims to get new readers as time goes by because comic books are supposedly aimed at younger audiences, and in a time where the industry is at disadvantage with new technologies and a "minimal span of attention" mentality, they have to look fresh. This (and the new #1s) is one way to go about it, whether we like it or not. I understand the feeling of being swept aside, but it has nothing to do with how their business is run. They're not going about basing their job on people swearing them off on the Internet (well, most of them anyway), but on the people who will buy their stuff.

As for why this sort of changes are good for the "moral" prospect of comics, I already explained myself above. Nick Fury Jr... yeah that was poorly executed. Like I said, change doesn't make up for storytelling. But it doesn't "kill" it either.

Also, there was outcry when Kingpin was a black guy on Daredevil. It goes both ways.

@the_average_bear: there's already an American eagle

@ostyo: Give it 5 issues then make a decision. Pleasseeeeeeeeeee.

Comic con us gonna be hectic

Ok, first, let's deal with something.

The argument of "It's too P.C.!", "No, it's not!" Needs to STOP. STOP. STOP.

Go back further. What's actually wrong with political correctness? Not what you THINK it means, but what it actually means. It means, "Hey, those words you say so carelesssly, or those things you do? Maybe stop and think about if they'd genuinely and legitimately offend a swathe of people before acting upon using them, yes?" That's political correctness.

Do people misuse it? Yes. Do people misunderstand what it means? Evidently, yes. However, the above is all it means.

"I used to call gay people f***ots all the time. I never meant anything bad by it. You can't say ANYTHING now." No, you shouldn't be saying or doing certain things anyway. At its absolute WORST? P.C. is instituationalised politenesss. End of story. Get OVER it.

It's not pandering, is it? How many black superheroes are there? Women in the forefront? Gays? Trans? Bi? Exactly. It's making things reflective.

Before I get to the replies, I wanna say this. You love Steve Rogers so much? Think of this. You know who would be directly opposed to all of your negative, discriminatory comments? Steve Rogers. He would love Sam as Cap. He would respect ANYONE worthy enough to hold Mjolnir. Why can't you?

*Racists and sexists. Fixed for you.

How many of you complained when Bucky was Cap, or when everyone in the Noah movie was white? Most of the criticisms for this move are one giant, "I'm not racist/sexist, but..."

Stop it.

Because Black Panther is an African king from a tribe of natives to the continent. Captain America is the title of a courageous man from New York who happened to volunteer. Now, which of those scenarios could've been ANY ethnicity? Cap. He could've been a man, woman, or any ethnicity.

Black Panther being a black man is tied to his origin. Captain America's isn't.

Also, what's wrong with you? "What's next? A FEMALE Captain America? A GAY *Character*?" Why would this be a terrible thing? Why is being a female, or gay, or anything other than white, damning to you?

You know what? You people sit there and act like you can't criticise these changes without seeming racist or sexist. Maybe it's because that's the type of opinion you hold.

I have never had to worry or complain that something I've said would be taken as racist or sexist or discriminatory. You know why? Because I've literally never said anything that could be considered, legitimately, racist, sexist or discriminatory.

If you're worried your shock and outrage over this might be seen as discrimination, it's probably because it is discrimination. Oh, but you're not "like that"! Right? Knock it off.

"We need to have eight different versions." As opposed to one white version of most of the characters? Go outside. Do you see constant white people or a mix? Why should fiction be ANY different?

Sam has been a hero for 45 years. No formal military training but has run a department in SHEILD. He could fill the Captain America shoes. Bucky wasn't thought of since the 60's but came back able to fill Cap's void with rounding applause.

your argument made me say such things. In movies/comics, characters of another race has frequently been changed into white characters and you didn't acknowledge or seem to know. But the change of a white character into black stuck out to you. Thor has been unworthy before and his power lost. The power going to a female is now a problem with you and others.

a fan like you...hmm

Give me one example of a black/hispanic or asian becoming white in comics.

Good for Sam. Bout time writers started giving him respect.

yeah with falcon turning into cap, thor becoming a woman, and wolverine dying too much change is happening

Tony isn't being replaced. Instead, and I quote, "Like the Superior Spider-Man, Superior Iron Man is a character that’s hard to root for," Alonso told EW. "The newly-transformed Superior Iron Man has very ambitious plans for the city that some of its residents embrace, but not all." So basically he's going to go back to acting like he did in Civil War.

Well I hate to say it, but most of you complaining about the changes are just getting old. My dad used to tell me he stopped reading comics because they "changed the X-Men and the Avengers to teams he no longer recognized". And now, thanks to these changes with the New 52 and Marvel, I'm finally getting what he meant. I'll give Thor, Superior Iron Man, and Captain Falcon a shot, but I'm sure i won't like the change. Guess I'm getting old... v.v

that's easy Onyx and Connor Hawke just happened..you read comics? you gotta know this stuff

and movies its easier to go off memory

at least Sam is the new Cap and not this black friend of Captain America

I really dislike when creative changes become obvious it distracts from the overall product, like when you know a storyline in wrestling is fake or how a magic trick is done...just ruins the moment for me.

So these ' changes' are coming off gimmicky, like the Powers that be need to shake things up for their shareholders or something that demanded these wholesale moves....ugh

That being said, I think Falcon should be fun, as I think he really isn't trying to BE Captain America, but blend his style into his own and be the best of both heroes in the process. So that, Stuart Immonen on the art and we know CAP will be back eventually, this should be pretty fun to read.

That Superior Iron Man and the new Avengers crew business from that Entertainment Weekly article.....Not so sure about yet....

Both? There is an Ant-Man movie coming out that probably won't star Hank Pym as Ant-Man and now in the comics the only Ant-Man they care about is Scott probably because of it. It's a shame that Marvel has just given up on one of their founding avengers members without even really trying to make him popular by giving him his own solo ongoing series. It's like they just totally forgot how popular Hank was during Dark Reign when he was the leader of the Avengers. It's not like everyone hates him they just lack exposure to him.

He should keep the wings... the wings made him double awesome and now with a shield that's like super-triple-extra awesome

Congrats sam wilson for taking the mantle,I feel like he deserves the chance to prove hes a true leader,and even though a solo series as the falcon is much deserved for him,this is just as good for him as Captain America is awesome,gotta see what direction they take him

i understand how you feel. It sucks that Scott is generally being blamed by fans for it though.

Hope we get some good stories and art is all I care about

"THIS IS AN OUTRAGE FOR NO REASONS I CAN GIVE THAT MAKE SENSE!"

"Things like this never last."

Why is it an outrage then? You know it'll change back eventually. Comics are the most imaginative, creative medium and yet...they cough up some of the dumbest people.

Feels pointless considering the Bucky Barnes tenure as Captain America.

In Daredevil and in Avengers A.I. it started to label Hank as Ant-Man and he went back to using his Helmet when he shrunk. I had thought Marvel was going to do the right thing, but Hank wasn't even in Infinity, Original Sin, and looking at all of the images of Axis he probably wont be in Axis either. They just really don't care about him anymore clearly. If you go back through the major marvel events they all skip over Hank with the exception being Fear Its Self where they added in him showing up too late to help. I thought AoU was Marvel finally trying to address their lack of trying with Hank but Hank turned out to hardly be in AoU as well. Then when you listen to them talk at panels when people ask things like "Why isn't Hank Pym anywhere in marvel now?..." They're response is "Oh he's hanging out with Daredevil and building some tech for Cap" Like they seriously believe that, that's good enough and Hank doesn't need to be a leader character. Sorry I'm ranting haha I like Scott Lang, but honestly if they were going to push Hank out of the spot light to give his fame to someone else I would rather it be Eric.

@humanrocket: lol I wasn't interested in Capt before when it was Steve Rogers, that still hasn't changed.

@ostyo: what about when it was Bucky as Cap?

Captain Falcon confirmed.

@draku28: fantastic 4 and spider man made marvel

@kasino said:

@verotikryptonite said:

@kasino said:

@verotikryptonite said:

@kasino said:

@verotikryptonite said:

@8008s said:

@verotikryptonite said:

And to the other guy that's making it about race, that's not my issue. I like Samuel Jackson, but not for Nick Fury. And I like Laurence Fishburn as well, but not as Perry White. It's an insult to people who hold these characters dear to their heart and have shared a great portion of their childhood and adult life reading them.

People don't care that Al Simmons is black, but if Luke Cage was turned white there would be a fierce back lash.

But you just spend half your post demonstrating backlash for two white characters turned black...

It's not about race with me. Marvel is writing out Nick Fury and replacing him with a black man just to please a certain group. What about the fans who love Nick fury just the way he is ? So screw you to the life long fans who have made the company a success? And I'm not white just so you know and my son is mixed.

And like I said before if this was Luke Cage being changed into a white guy just so say Tom Cruise could play him, there would be an out cry.

And now Thor is "Unworthy" of Mjolnir ? Why? To bring in more female readers. I feel it's cheap and a slap in the face of true fans. And yes I'm well aware that it's only temporary, but a slap is still a slap. They could easily showcase the likes of Storm with top notch art and a great story teller to pull in females, they don't have to go this rout and segregate a large portion of long time fans just to please the few girls who they do bring in.

it wasn't to please black people. to please the fans of Ultimate comics. he was the most popular creation coming out of the Ultimate comics.

there has been black/spanish/asian characters that turned white and no one complains. no bats an eye. Luke Cage might be hard to swallow once you look how he was created. with a blaxploitation vibe but it would mostly go on without a hitch in the comic and by fans like you.

hasn't thor been unworthy before? sam is a black guy its a slap. but everyone loves bucky as cap...i hate saying it but I think some of you are just racist.

Bucky and Cap have a long military history that makes that easier to swallow in the same vein as Dick Grayson donning the cape and cowl. And I could care less what you hate saying but I'm not racist guy, so get that strait. If you knew me in person you would know that.

And what exactly is a fan like me guy ?

Sam has been a hero for 45 years. No formal military training but has run a department in SHEILD. He could fill the Captain America shoes. Bucky wasn't thought of since the 60's but came back able to fill Cap's void with rounding applause.

your argument made me say such things. In movies/comics, characters of another race has frequently been changed into white characters and you didn't acknowledge or seem to know. But the change of a white character into black stuck out to you. Thor has been unworthy before and his power lost. The power going to a female is now a problem with you and others.

a fan like you...hmm

Give me one example of a black/hispanic or asian becoming white in comics.

that's easy Onyx and Connor Hawke just happened..you read comics? you gotta know this stuff

and movies its easier to go off memory

at least Sam is the new Cap and not this black friend of Captain America

Onyx race wasn't changed. She was just wearing face paint. Something they stopped using because there was outcry over from a few people misunderstanding and spreading the belief to the many non readers.

Which makes your "you read comics? you gotta know this stuff" comment funny.

i dont have a problem with this at all

I wouldn't be surprised. I actually said yesterday that all Marvel needed to do was to something to Iron Man to complete the trifecta. They've already f***ed up the other two members of the big three.

@verotikryptonite said:

@greenarrowfan12 said:

In November, Superior Iron Man #1 sends Tony Stark to San Francisco with a new outfit and a new perspective on life. “The Genius Bar costume is there for a reason,” Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso tells EW. “The newly-transformed Superior Iron Man has very ambitious plans for the city that some of its residents embrace, but not all.” Comic book fans will note the very pointed addition of the word “Superior” to the title. The last time that happened, it was Superior Spider-Man, and Doctor Octopus took over Peter Parker’s brain. Doc Ock won’t be invading Tony’s frontal lobe, but Alonso does note, “Like the Superior Spider-Man, Superior Iron Man is a character that’s hard to root for.” The series is written by Tom Taylor and drawn by In a series written by Tom Taylor and drawn by Yildiray Cinar. come on marvel

@darkrider said:

avengers now

That looks and sound like absolute grade A horse shite. Guess I will be dropping every single book on that list of crapola. WTF! Who ever OK'ed all this crap should get a bullet in his head. The only way I read any of that crap is if Bucky went all Winter soldior and indeed put a bullet in the mouth of every single one of those people in the bottom row. And they each die horribly at that. First Marvel let's Slott destroy Spiderman. Then they let that has been Waid write that snooze fest run on Hulk. Now lets trash the Avengers with a two year crap run. Whats up with the Marvel right now ? I swear a big time DC fan is in charge of Marvel and is trolling Marvel fan's as hard as possible.

Haha I almost believe that is a possibility! DC guy infiltrating & destroying from within- I'd almost believe that if DC wasn't so f***ed up themselves. I like what you said about Bucky though. He's the best friggin' thing in that line-up. The Winter Soldier is the ONLY saving grace for me at Marvel right now. Marvel sh*t all over everything else I love.

@bigswarz: Like I said Bucky is the obvious and natural succesor to Captain America. Falcon is 2nd. I think the big reason that people are having any problems with this is that its happening at the same time as the female Thor thing. It looks more like a publicity stunt than actual character progression. If this had happened a few months ago no one wouldve cared. Oh and I actually do think a few people had problems with Bucky becoming Cap.

@verotikryptonite said:

@greenarrowfan12 said:

In November, Superior Iron Man #1 sends Tony Stark to San Francisco with a new outfit and a new perspective on life. “The Genius Bar costume is there for a reason,” Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso tells EW. “The newly-transformed Superior Iron Man has very ambitious plans for the city that some of its residents embrace, but not all.” Comic book fans will note the very pointed addition of the word “Superior” to the title. The last time that happened, it was Superior Spider-Man, and Doctor Octopus took over Peter Parker’s brain. Doc Ock won’t be invading Tony’s frontal lobe, but Alonso does note, “Like the Superior Spider-Man, Superior Iron Man is a character that’s hard to root for.” The series is written by Tom Taylor and drawn by In a series written by Tom Taylor and drawn by Yildiray Cinar. come on marvel

@darkrider said:

avengers now

That looks and sound like absolute grade A horse shite. Guess I will be dropping every single book on that list of crapola. WTF! Who ever OK'ed all this crap should get a bullet in his head. The only way I read any of that crap is if Bucky went all Winter soldior and indeed put a bullet in the mouth of every single one of those people in the bottom row. And they each die horribly at that. First Marvel let's Slott destroy Spiderman. Then they let that has been Waid write that snooze fest run on Hulk. Now lets trash the Avengers with a two year crap run. Whats up with the Marvel right now ? I swear a big time DC fan is in charge of Marvel and is trolling Marvel fan's as hard as possible.

Thank you for proving why its so hard to bring in new comic book readers. No body likes change no matter how temporary it is............Sigh..........

@teerack said:@avenging_x_bolt said:

@teerack said: @avenging_x_bolt said: @teerack: to clarify, are you mad that they're pushing Scott over Hank or that they're pushing him as Ant-Man?

Both? There is an Ant-Man movie coming out that probably won't star Hank Pym as Ant-Man and now in the comics the only Ant-Man they care about is Scott probably because of it. It's a shame that Marvel has just given up on one of their founding avengers members without even really trying to make him popular by giving him his own solo ongoing series. It's like they just totally forgot how popular Hank was during Dark Reign when he was the leader of the Avengers. It's not like everyone hates him they just lack exposure to him.

i understand how you feel. It sucks that Scott is generally being blamed by fans for it though.

In Daredevil and in Avengers A.I. it started to label Hank as Ant-Man and he went back to using his Helmet when he shrunk. I had thought Marvel was going to do the right thing, but Hank wasn't even in Infinity, Original Sin, and looking at all of the images of Axis he probably wont be in Axis either. They just really don't care about him anymore clearly. If you go back through the major marvel events they all skip over Hank with the exception being Fear Its Self where they added in him showing up too late to help. I thought AoU was Marvel finally trying to address their lack of trying with Hank but Hank turned out to hardly be in AoU as well. Then when you listen to them talk at panels when people ask things like "Why isn't Hank Pym anywhere in marvel now?..." They're response is "Oh he's hanging out with Daredevil and building some tech for Cap" Like they seriously believe that, that's good enough and Hank doesn't need to be a leader character. Sorry I'm ranting haha I like Scott Lang, but honestly if they were going to push Hank out of the spot light to give his fame to someone else I would rather it be Eric.

no problem. we all need a good rant every now and then. I know its personal opinion but ive never been able to forgive O'grady for what he pulled in Avengers:The Initiative. Did you hear the rumor that Yellowjacket was secretly going to be the villain in the Ant-man movie?

Edited for clarity's sake