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Namor Gets an Ongoing!?

Will the King of Atlantis be a hit with Marvel readers?


As a Namor fan, even I don't know if this is a good idea. Marvel made the recent announcement that their Prince of Atlantis will be getting his very own ongoing series  written by Stuart Moore with art from Ariel Olivetti. Olivetti is the same artist that was behind the Cable series, and who's style is better suited (in my opinion) for bulky characters like the Hulk. I envision Namor to be this sleek, slim and slender character, so it will be interesting to see Olivetti's interpretation. In this new ongoing, Namor must "save the X-Men from the curse of the mutants."

 Vampires are hunting mutants and the only hope for the X-Men may be the Sub-Mariner, as he boldly launches into a new ongoing series with the extra-sized Namor #1! In this “Curse of The Mutants” tie-in spinning out of the hotly-anticipated X-Men #1  

Vampires? Really? Will they sparkle, too? 
The fact that Namor is getting this ongoing series and will be teaming up with the X-Men to "save" them doesn't really come as a surprise considering Atlantis is destroyed and he has been a prominent character during X-Men's " Second Coming" story arc. Not to mention, he's been pretty cozy with Cyclops' girlfriend for a while now...
The series will hit stores this August with a cover by artist Jae Lee and a variant (which you can see above) by Marvel's editor-in-chief, Joe Quesada. Now, I will definitely be hitting my comic shop come August to pick up this first issue of the new ongoing series, but I am skeptical of it's success. Do you think that people will look past the tights and ankle wings and give one of Marvel's very first comic book characters a chance?
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Posted by aztek_the_lost

I know I certainly won't, give him a chance that is, I mean look at him...anyone reading this is sure to show up Bender's Gaydar
 
:P

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Posted by MisterDK

I've never been one of Namors biggest fans (infact in some times I've straight out disliked the man). But I will give him a go, even with the ankle wings, I think this run might have some potential.

Posted by Rokuakai

Hell yeah!!!

Posted by haydenclaireheroes

I do not think I would pick up a Namor Comic

Posted by Odyssey_Dawn

That pic is badass. Hopefully the inside art is the same as the teaser. The only thing I dislike about Namor is the whole, "Weakness to prolonged land exposure." In my opinion it handicaps his possibilities seeing as how 99.9% of all Marvel stories take place on land...

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Edited by FoxxFireArt

Is it me, or does Namor look like he's 60 in that picture? They don't look like muscle definition as much as they do wrinkles. I agree that Namor shouldn't be steroid freak big, but I don't see him as being Spider-man slim either.
 
Not every character can pull off their own series. Some are just destined for the support role. For a series you need a story to tell and a challenge for them to over come. More so in a super hero story.
 
Emma has been playing Namor since moment one. She lied to him about killing Shaw to get what she wanted out of him and only made him think he stands a chance. 
I'm an Emma fan, and I don't think she could pull off her own long term story. I liked the short series she was given to tell her origin though. That story had a goal behind it. To build an understanding of the character.
 
I'm kind of rolling my eyes at the title "Curse of The Mutants". I wonder when Abbet and Costello will show up.

Posted by Odyssey_Dawn
@FoxxFireArt said:
" Is it me, or does Namor look like he's 60 in that picture? They don't look like muscle definition as much as they do wrinkles. "
It reminds me of the MTV animated Aeon Flux art/muscle interpretation.
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Posted by MisterMollusk

Love Olivetti and I think he'll do a superb job. Definitely going to get it.

Posted by Caligula

it has failed before it will fail again

Posted by Night Thrasher

Namor is a tricky character. I think he should be played more like Wonder Woman with the mythology and mystical element then like an X-Man. He just doesn't fit into normal boxes.

Posted by War Killer

Both this and Spitfire's new series (although I think her's a mini-series) I will be picking up since I like the characters, but I'm not a Vampire fan (which both books have in them), so yeah.....

Posted by Strafe Prower

O.o....As long as he beats the crap out of Cyclops, I will read it.

Posted by Blue_Shield
 
It will interesting to see Jae Lee's current take on Namor, considering what he looked like last time.
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Posted by AmazingSpiderMike

(sigh) Will marvel ever learn? Why would any human read a book about an Atlantian who hates humans?  Take a note from DC, NOBODY READS AQUAMAN!!!!!!!

Posted by ElJuano

I got Namor #1 from the original series back in the 60's and the John Byrne series #1 thru it's end. Very cool and solid storylines that redefined Namor. In my opinion I don't know why this character is so underused. He has potential to kick so much @$$ but I have rarely if ever seen him shine in any recent issues of any book.  I hope this new series will do Imperious Rex some well overdue justice. He should be up there with Thor, Iron Man, Cap and Spidey. I'm crossing my fingers for his appearance in the new Cap movie. I'll be checking this new series out for sure.

Posted by doordoor123

I, for one, am excited. What i think is that Namor over the past two years has become a lot more likable. The problem is his lack of fans. Most successful ongoings have followings. And Namor doesnt really have one. But i believe someone can pull a great story out of their ass for Namor. This could either be a hit or miss. Im going to read it anyhow because Namor, recently, has become one of my favorite Marvel characters today.

Posted by Green Skin

I'll be very surprised if this doesn't fail.  With characters like Namor you either need him to be part of a team, or have one badass supporting cast.  If they don't have one hell of a story to tell the book will fizzle. 

Posted by A-Strondinaire

Vampires? Really? Will they sparkle, too?

  The jokes already been done Babs    
Posted by Odyssey_Dawn
@AmazingSpiderMike said:
" (sigh) Will marvel ever learn? Why would any human read a book about an Atlantian who hates humans?  Take a note from DC, NOBODY READS AQUAMAN!!!!!!! "
Cause most comicbook readers dont take the views of the fictional characters personally :P Hahaha you're right though, not many people read Aquaman, but then again Namor isn't Aquaman. His personality is closer to Black Adam and he's a fan favorite.
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Posted by Caligula
@Gambler said:
" @AmazingSpiderMike said:
" (sigh) Will marvel ever learn? Why would any human read a book about an Atlantian who hates humans?  Take a note from DC, NOBODY READS AQUAMAN!!!!!!! "
Cause most comicbook readers dont take the views of the fictional characters personally :P Hahaha you're right though, not many people read Aquaman, but then again Namor isn't Aquaman. His personality is closer to Black Adam and he's a fan favorite. "
he is a fan favorite that works best as a supporting character
Posted by lostlantern13

Was anyone actually clamoring for a Namor ongoing?  Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?  
 
I wonder how long it'll last with all this excitement...

Posted by Odyssey_Dawn
@Caligula said:
" @Gambler said:
" @AmazingSpiderMike said:
" (sigh) Will marvel ever learn? Why would any human read a book about an Atlantian who hates humans?  Take a note from DC, NOBODY READS AQUAMAN!!!!!!! "
Cause most comicbook readers dont take the views of the fictional characters personally :P Hahaha you're right though, not many people read Aquaman, but then again Namor isn't Aquaman. His personality is closer to Black Adam and he's a fan favorite. "
he is a fan favorite that works best as a supporting character "
Which one? Black Adam, Namor, or both? Personally either one could carry their own solo series with the right direction/vision/writing. I think anyways.
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Edited by ImperiousRix

I really like Namor, so I'd be enthusiastic to read this. 
But seriously... vampires?  This isn't Union Jack or Blade... WHY ARE THERE VAMPIRES!?

Posted by Caligula
@Gambler: Namor.
Posted by doordoor123
@Caligula: @Gambler: Aquaman is a horrible character. They are no way alike. They both have Atlantis. Great. But the Sub-Mariner has a very well written character. But i agree that this MUST have a good story to succeed.
Posted by logan48227

I like Namor.......just not this whole "Namor, the Vampire Slayer" direction that Marvel is taking. Namor ruling Atlantis & defending it from credible threats, sure. Namor on land kicking tons of supervillain ass with his trademark arrogance, definitely. 
 
But Namor fighting the undead...................notsomuch!

Posted by mavfan626
@haydenclaireheroes said:
" I do not think I would pick up a Namor Comic "
Edited by Aquamariner

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!  
Namor's getting his own... wait... Vampires?! ...and Mutants? and I have to read X Men 1 to get into this title?!?!..hmmm.... maybe I'll save my enthusiasm for after I've read the first Issue... 
 
Well, If Aquaman ain't getting his own title, at least the Monarch of the Deep is! 

Edited by thechessclub

Yeah looks like this is the slimmest his characters can get...ironically it's quasi related seeing as how its an x-men character...
 
 http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/x-man/63-1.jpg 

Posted by etragedy

Saw the local used book store has a long string of Namor comics during John Byrne's series.
As I recall that series was well received by critics but still failed.
 
These water based heroes can't seem to hold a fan base. Namor hasn't succeeded. Over at D.C., Aquaman fails almost every time they try to give him a monthly title. But, there seems to be an uptick in interest (boredom? hunger for more superhero stuff? rising sea levels?) whatever the reason. WB is making an Aquaman movie now, so who knows, maybe these Atlantean types will make a comeback.
 
But as interesting a character as Namor is, I still can't see him holding my interest for the long haul.

Posted by chalkshark

Well, the people supported an ongoing solo series from 1968-1974, & again from 1990-1995. He's starred in at least three separate mini-series that I can recall. He was a pretty popular member of The Invaders, The Defenders, & The Avengers. He's very well known, & I believe very well liked. None of that really matters, though, as the relative merits of any given character are far outweighed by the creative team responsible for producing the book. If Neil Gaiman & Jim Lee decided to put out a monthly Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt comic book, it would be a top 10 seller, & everyone would be talking about it & how cool Peter Cannon is as a character. Every comic book character has their fan base, but what keeps a book going is the talent behind it. Namor will stand or fall based on that.

Posted by Joe Venom

Thank the gods! where do I sign up =)

Posted by Son_of_Magnus

Saw this coming a mile away and am pleased

Posted by Decept-O

I think if Namor wore the black suit with the webbing, etc., he'd at least be a bit more appealing in some ways, and I think that's something you previously mentioned, Babs.  
 
Namor is actually a bit of a dynamic and somewhat complex character, but even with his personality, powers, etc., he's just a hard sell for a mini or any type of ongoing.   It'd be great if he did, Namor is one of those characters I personally love to hate.  
 
He's a character that more or less is a supporting type, despite his power level. Not all characters can have their own series.  I have an idea in this area but that's for another time.

Posted by Icon

I think he has worked best as a supporting character and sometimes antagonist, but as one of Marvel's first heroes he deserves another ongoing. We will see if a new take on the character resonates or not with today's audience but I applaud Marvel for trying. And I look forward to it. 

Posted by Branagin77

I think Namor is one of the best characters Marvel has. I really am excited about this new series, and I think Olivetti will do an awesome job... I hope people will support this series.

Posted by Mbecks14

it'll be a hit with Babs but that's about it

Posted by G thang

I collected the John Byrne Namor and was interested in his version of the character. I stopped buying the series when he left. With the new writer/artist I feel Namor lost it's focus and was not a fan of the new direction. Could see myself giving a new series a chance though....

Posted by kid_keio

i was wondering where ariel olivetti has been up to since he left the incredible hulk , will be getting this for the art alone , not a big or even a namor fan , maybe this will turn that around 

Posted by Tyleski

So do I have to be the "Get's" grammar Nazi here?

Posted by THEBlaqueBasterd

I think instead of doin this they should step up his supporting roles in the X-Men Avengers etc ie giving more relevant  pop ups or continuances &links into ongoing & future storylines....I think he works best juxtaposed against stronger more established characters the like of Iron Man & Cyclops etc... This jus seems like a way to capitalise (financially) on the huge respoonse to his frequent appearances of late... Which (IMO) is NEVER a good thing... 
 
I still however wish this run the best &hopefully this doesnt mean he STOPS popping up in X-Men et al

Posted by sora_thekey
 @Babs said:
" As a Namor fan, even I don't know if this is a good idea. 
Vampires? Really? Will they sparkle, too? 
The fact that Namor is getting this ongoing series and will be teaming up with the X-Men to "save" them doesn't really come as a surprise considering Atlantis is destroyed and he has been a prominent character during X-Men's " Second Coming" story arc. Not to mention, he's been pretty cozy with Cyclops' girlfriend for a while now..."
 
I have to say that I have high hopes for this title...
Namor has always been a redundant character (obnoxious king who is after Sue Storm of the FF) up until he joined the X-Men, and acknowledged his true mutant nature. Of course it's a very odd way to establish this hard-headed (really hard), but he's finally established...
Since he's been on the X-Men he created a higher status than he had before, so an on-going title now is good for his character now that he has a place in the Marvel U.
I'm going to be one of those people who buys this comic!
 
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Posted by mattydeNero
@FoxxFireArt said:
"Is it me, or does Namor look like he's 60 in that picture?

Ditto.  That is one of the worst Joe Q pieces I have ever seen.  Does he want to be Jae Lee now?  Not working.
Posted by Hawkling

Definitely give it a go, he's the freaking king of the sea!

Posted by spiderguylll

Babs is gonna love this...wait She wrote it? lol

Posted by Krakoa

I'm shocked at the anti-Namor sentiment. I think he's always worked best when he does his villainous ego trips like the 60's team up with Dr. Doom. I hope they won't try to pass him off as the kind of guy who is just itching to save the X-men, but someone who exists more in a moral grey zone.   But, c'mon, the Sub-Mariner is an awesomely arrogant character with excellent potential. Props to Marvel's first ever superhero finally getting another shot at an ongoing. 

Posted by EisforExtinction
@Babs:
Page One, Panel One:
Namor: I have a confession to make.
Doctor Doom: If it involves you, the Huntress, Lady Blackhawk and a bottle of grappa, Dinah already told me. And all I have to say is "Well played, sir".

CROSS DIMENSION THREESOME!

Posted by strangeling
@G thang said:
" I collected the John Byrne Namor and was interested in his version of the character. I stopped buying the series when he left. With the new writer/artist I feel Namor lost it's focus and was not a fan of the new direction. Could see myself giving a new series a chance though.... "
I too thought the JB run was pretty good.  Then for whatever reason the writing changed from JB to Bob Harras right in the middle of a story arc, and the change in tone was jarring.  I dropped it then too. 
I bought those issues mostly due to the creative team.  Namor, himself, I don't find so interesting as a character.  That, and the fact that I'm at my budget's limit, means I won't be fitting his new title in.
Edited by DH69

they cancel ms. marvel, and she-hulk. but speedo boy gets his own series...

Posted by Static Shock

Interesting. Namor hasn't had an ongoing since the last one ended in 1995.

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