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Interview: Scott Lobdell on SUPERMAN, Lois Lane and Shirtless Kryptonians

'H'el on Earth' is underway and the writer discusses some of the elements to the character along with Kryptonian fashion styles.

SUPERMAN #16
SUPERMAN #16

SUPERMAN #15 came out yesterday and H'el is still causing problems for Superman. With Scott Lobdell and Kenneth Rocafort coming on the title, we're seeing several new developments with Superman and other characters. With H'el on Earth going on, there are a lot of questions about the character and Krypton.

We had the chance to ask Scott a few questions to try to get to the bottom of things.

Comic Vine: Was H'el originally going to be Bizarro? Did the story change or evolve?

Scott Lobdell: When I made a proposal for Superman, part of it was to take Superman's rogues gallery and kind of bring them into the New 52. As anyone who has read TEEN TITANS or even to a degree, RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS, knows that I'm not above taking as many liberties as I can with the characters when defining them. In the proposal, I came up with a new take on Bizarro and Toyman and Parasite and Starro. They were so far afield from who these characters had been traditionally that DC said, in particularly in the case with my take on Bizarro, I had essentially just created an entirely different character. It would make more sense to let the character be his own character and leave Bizarro for another time.

When the entire story gets told, of H'el and not only just his origin he's revealed to us but also the origin he doesn't perhaps know at this time, by the time that story is told, everyone will see why DC, in their infinite wisdom were smart to separate H'el and Bizarro.

So yes, I had originally discussed a new take on Bizarro but ultimately it became such a bizarre take, if you will, that he became a different character completely.

CV: You've mentioned before that Helspont, last seen in the annual, is a story for later. Does that mean there's no connection to H'el?

SL: Correct. They might share some of the same monogramed bath towels, I'm guessing.

CV: Is using a family name a common thing on Krypton? He mentioned he didn't share the "blood" of her family?

SL: Considering that all six billion Kryptonians are dead, he can pretty much call himself Jor-El if he wanted to. There's no one there to correct him but I will say that Krypton was a very big place. Someone recently complained about why he's wearing what looks like a dress. I said well in America, there's not a lot of people wearing kilts but there are parts of the world where kilts and grass skirts and these types of clothing are acceptable. I think traditionally we've only seen Jor-El and the Science Council and maybe a city or two here and there. We have barely barely ever glimpsed Krypton in all its splendor and in all its multicultural facets which I'm sure exists. I think that it is probably well within the grounds of proper Kryptonian etiquette to perhaps take the name of a family that you respect or has accepted you. We're going to see a huge huge scene between Lara, Jor-El and H'el in issue 16. That should answer a lot of questions.

SUPERMAN #16
SUPERMAN #16

CV: What about his powers? Will we find out why he and Superboy have telekinesis and other Kryptonians don't?

SL: It's very fascinating to me, I used to read comics when I was younger and there was so much I didn't need to know to enjoy the story. To me, if I was a kid and reading H'el and all his powers and stuff, I would find it fascinating but wouldn't need to understand it. It's interesting to me that we live in a time where we need to know. I've had this question before and I could tell you but if I told you I'd be telling you what's happening in an issue around 24 or 25. Then you would be very angry at me.

Do you find that interesting at all?

CV: It's because of the internet. People feel like they could and should know everything right away.

SUPERMAN #15
SUPERMAN #15

SL: It's very interesting. So yes. And in issue 15, Lex says to Superman, or he alludes to it, it's this notion that we've all been looking at H'el and wondering how is he can do so many more amazing things than Superman? What happened to H'el that allows him to do that? I think the bigger question is what is it about Superman that has not had him manifesting these powers? Is it because he doesn't possess them or is it because Superman is so physically powerful that it's enough for him to push planets into orbit and deliver beat downs to intergalactic armies? Is it that he hasn't had to explore these different elements of his powers. Whether that's true or just Lex trying to crawl under Superman's skin is a story that I think all the Super-books will be investigating over the next or at least touching on.

CV: Is it pronounced "hell" or "huh-ell"?

SL: Huh-el! It's actually pronounced Huh-dash-el. That's the actual pronunciation. No.

CV: When can we expect answers about the zero issue, such as Superman being there before the destruction?

SL: Around issue 24 or 25. It might be 23 and 24. Right now it's planned in 24 and 25 of all Superman books, ACTION, SUPERGIRL, SUPERBOY and SUPERMAN. But that could change because life is about change.

SUPERMAN #16
SUPERMAN #16

CV: Is H'el just trying to impress Kara to try to recreate Kryptonians the 'old-fashioned way'?

SL: No, I think what's really tragic about H'el is from thirty thousand feet up he has a very noble cause that anybody could get behind. This is the saving of his planet. Unfortunately, as we discover, he can't do that without destroying Earth. That makes him what you and I would traditionally call a supervillain. To him, he thinks there's nothing more important than bringing back Krypton. He'll do anything to make that happen, including manipulating Kara. Sadly as the story progresses, he is going to find that his affection for Kara may at some point trump his prime directive to bring back Krypton. As you alluded to in your question, he might actually think there might be a more hands on approach to his goal.

CV: With the Justice League in SUPERMAN #16, will we see more of Lois Lane's reaction to Superman and Wonder Woman being a couple?

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SL: Their relationship has not been made public just yet. Also in the New 52, Lois is so much more her own person than perhaps she's been portrayed in the past. So even when the time comes that Superman and Wonder Woman's relationship is made public, I don't necessarily think we're going to see a Lois who's particularly broken up about it. She has moved in with Jonathan Carrol. Presumedly she's very sincere and happy in that relationship.

CV: A user asked, if H'el is trying to hide his chest symbol, why doesn't he just put on a shirt?

SL: Again, I used to live in Malibu, CA. My neighbor six doors away was Matthew McConaughey and I used to ask that same question of him everyday when I would walk the dog. I never asked him directly but I did wonder why the guy will just not put on a shirt. Having said that, I do believe there are many places the world today that if were to hop into your Comic Vine catapult and shoot yourself across the planet, you could probably land in a many places where a shirt and shoes are not required for service. Similarly we will learn that H'el comes from a place on Krypton where tunics are not mandatory.

SUPERMAN #15 is on sale now. Issue #16 is in stores January 30.

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DAT ART.

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I actually liked Superman prior to the New 52. He was I what i thought was very relatable. In fact its his romance with Lois Lane that made him relatable. To not have him be with her is like saying superman is no longer an alien or has no powers. She is as much as a part of him as everything else about him.

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@supersmith said:

@darkman61288 said:

@BE__ Havoc @ supersmith I don't like the "power couple" either. It just stupid. Both characters are all ready unrelatable this just makes it worst.

Who says I don't like them? I for one am willing to give them their chance. It's refreshing for one to see Superman not making lame excuses/lying to a love interest or wringing his hands to save her and all the typical troupes that go with hero/ civilian love interests.If I want to read the same thing over I'd go back to trades. You can't hate something that they are only just starting to explore. That's a blinkered way at looking at things and clearly you not a Superman fan too.

You know what could accomplish the same thing? Not writing a Superman/Lois dynamic that involves a lot of saving. But then, I guess it's more refreshing to read stories where Superman is in need of constant saving. Lois saved his life and the lives of Metropolis citizens twice in Superman so far during Perez's run. Meanwhile, the Justice League--even Lex Luthor--are apparently necessary at times to save Superman from Cheetah (Justice League #13), from Vulko (Justice League #15), and now from H'El.

I would suggest that just because someone doesn't embrace the Superman and Wonder Woman relationship in the same way you do, it doesn't make them not a Superman fan. A good number of people don't find the relationship interesting or appealing. To me, it has no poetry. The secret keeping, etc. of the Superman/Lois relationship may be familiar, but it's the kind of familiar that exists in all myths that are retold. It's the obstacle the protagonists overcome. Meanwhile, something really beautiful and profound is said about a relationship between a human and an alien. It replicates the courageous love and acceptance the human Kents provided to the alien Kal-El and about loving what's on the inside of a person and seeing people with differences as equals on the basis of what's in their heart only.

Clark takes up journalism because he likes a profession that he can't rely on his powers alone. It's a challenge. With Lois it's the same thing. He has to win her as Clark, which is challenge. It also takes the kind of guts that true love stories have in literature and myth, like Romeo & Juliet or Aragorn & Arwen, have. Love stories that move us because the lovers have to bravely face fears and who come from different worlds. That they overcome those differences to reconcile the thematic conflicts in their lives/narrative is what gives the love story its meaning and epic quality. So, I think the Lois/Clark relationship can still be retold in an innovative way (less damsel in distress) and still hold a great deal of interest and power as a story. The relationship still has loads of fans, and being featured again in Man of Steel is likely to produce even more of them.

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Let me be the first:

THIS INTERVIEW IS A SLAP IN THE FACE! A TRUE TRUE VIOLATION OF THE SUPERMAN MYTHOS

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Lets pretend I wrote paragraphs on the subject.

Actually this has been a rather fun arc! Especially the Lex Luther/Superman/Superboy dynamic.

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@sethysquare said:

@fartvader said:

Why again does He'L sometimes have the inverted S symbol and sometimes doesn't?

this is the question that im curious about though.

Does H'el have or doesnt have the inverted s.

Well H'el can only be seen when he want's pepole to see him so I would presume it only shows when he want's it to
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I like how Tony blames "the internet" for wanting to know everything right away. Who has been asking for a detailed report on the mythical "5 years" before the DCnU every week on a podcast? Who has been asking which stories are/aren't in cannon in the Batman mythos? Who has been asking for a timeline of Robins? Who asked the question about the discrepancy in Superboys powers in the first place??

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@darkman61288 said:

@BE__ Havoc @ supersmith I don't like the "power couple" either. It just stupid. Both characters are all ready unrelatable this just makes it worst.

Who says I don't like them? I for one am willing to give them their chance. It's refreshing for one to see Superman not making lame excuses/lying to a love interest or wringing his hands to save her and all the typical troupes that go with hero/ civilian love interests.If I want to read the same thing over I'd go back to trades. You can't hate something that they are only just starting to explore. That's a blinkered way at looking at things and clearly you not a Superman fan too.

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Supergirl and H'el, okay then.

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@BE__ Havoc @ supersmith I don't like the "power couple" either. It just stupid. Both characters are all ready unrelatable this just makes it worst.

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@BR_Havoc: You mean go down the over used route of just killing off the well meaning boyfriend who no writer cares to flesh out and is just canon fodder and will mean nothing to the narrative? It could be they plan that. Who knows with them. I wouldn't put it pass them to do the most obvious and cliched thing and not really write the sm/ww well at all. Just use it to add drama and undermine it. It's not a very nice thing to do to Diana's character though as she'll come off as the lame second choice. We were already in danger of Clark acting like a whiny kid over Lois' boyfriend last issue. They could have set him up with someone from his own cast . There was Lucy and Heather to choose from.

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@knightofthechronicle said:

I really like this direction. It's nice to see such great interaction between the characters

Agreed. The dialogue and the exchanges between the Supers (and especially between Superman and Luthor in the latest issue) have really elevated this series and made it something special with the current creative team (that and the artwork).

I'm eager to have the full mystery behind H'el revealed, but I'm patient. :)

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@supersmith said:

Enjoying the H'el crossover. Great to see the supers struggle intially to establish their relationships. Makes more sense.

Thank the lord for no juvenile love triangles.It does no favors to anyone. Let the sm/ww relationship breathe and want to see writers flesh out Lois' beau. He's a foreign correspondent reporter. Should have qualities to him to make Lois fall for him.

Is it just me that feels that Lois's new BF will die in a tragic fashion and when that happens we will see Clark be there for her. It would be the fist foot in the door for there relationship to start again?

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I really liked issue 15 and I really like the direction they're going with H'El on Earth. I will continue pronouncing it "Hell" and not "Huh Ell". I've been doing it too long, I can't change. I was a little disappointed there was not a single punch thrown or one glimpse of H'El in this issue... but it did add a lot to the overall plot so I can forgive it.

Also, with the issue about his "skirt", it looks to me like a cape worn lower because maybe he's from a different culture like Scott said. It makes him look badass anyway.

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@fartvader said:

Why again does He'L sometimes have the inverted S symbol and sometimes doesn't?

this is the question that im curious about though.

Does H'el have or doesnt have the inverted s.

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I really like this direction. It's nice to see such great interaction between the characters

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Great storyline

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Why again does He'L sometimes have the inverted S symbol and sometimes doesn't?

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Enjoying the H'el crossover. Great to see the supers struggle intially to establish their relationships. Makes more sense.

Thank the lord for no juvenile love triangles.It does no favors to anyone. Let the sm/ww relationship breathe and want to see writers flesh out Lois' beau. He's a foreign correspondent reporter. Should have qualities to him to make Lois fall for him.

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Cool. So Helspont will be back huh?
 
And will Zod be back?

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My LCS ran out of superman #15... missed the issue...

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Sounds very interesting! Great artwork too.

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