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Interview: Matt Kindt Talks JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA and the League being Dead

Find out which two characters will survive and try to carry on.

Forever Evil is here. What is going on with the Justice League and the Justice League of America? The Crime Syndicate keeps saying the Justice League is dead but we all know that can't be the case, right?

With Matt Kindt taking over JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA and the apparent jump forward in FOREVER EVIL #1, we asked him some questions to find out what's going on and what we can expect. He does address whether or not the League is dead.

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8

Comic Vine: Will JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8 pick up immediately after the events of Trinity War?

Matt Kindt: Yes. It starts off with everybody dead. You'll see them all dead. But then it moves forward.

CV: Will this series lead up to FOREVER EVIL #1 or will your story jump forward as well?

MK: We're going to take some time with it. In the first couple issues you might feel a little out of it. We'll see the survivors, Manhunter and Stargirl, are sort of trapped in this crazy prison. They're trying to escape, trying to figure it out. By the end of the second issue, they'll get down into the real world, FOREVER EVIL. Then they sort of interact with all the villains.

CV: For the next few issues, will the focus mainly be on the threat of the Crime Syndicate?

From FOREVER EVIL #1
From FOREVER EVIL #1

MK: Yes.

CV: Will we see more of the Outsider since he wasn't seen in FOREVER EVIL #1

MK: No Outsider. The focus on my run of the book is going to be…it's almost like a buddy/cop travel movie with Manhunter and Stargirl. They'll be like good cop/bad cop. They're sort of dumped into this world of FOREVER EVIL and survive as they cross the country. They try to figure out the bigger mystery and they out to try to save the day, if there's a day that can be saved. It's really going to be character driven. The characters driving it are going to be Manhunter and Stargirl. Every issue they're going to be facing a different crazy villain. Someone from FOREVER EVIL. And a bigger villain, I can't reveal, of course.

By the end of the arc, I don't want you to just know Stargirl and Manhunter. I want you to really love those characters. It's my goal as the writer.

CV: I was going to ask if we're going to see more of a mix in the roster but it sounds like you'll mainly be focusing on the two of them?

MK: Yeah. Everyone else is dead. There's not much I can do with dead.

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8

CV: So I assume you'll have the chance to flesh out Martian Manhunter some more like we've seen in your backups?

MK: Yeah, definitely. We've got a lot more and also Stargirl. We haven't seen enough of her. I think she's really an interesting character that we'll start to learn more about. I want to give her a chance to really step out and become a star…literally a star, you know? The fun of the series is going to be Stargirl and Manhunter interacting because they couldn't be more opposite, in so many ways. The villains are going be there but the real conflict is going to be between Stargirl and Manhunter.

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CV: How will JLA compare to the JUSTICE LEAGUE title now?

MK: It's kind of it's own thing. It's not going to really crossover with anything else except the FOREVER EVIL stuff. I'm going to end the arc in a really big way. There's going to be a big conflict/event that will tie into FOREVER EVIL. Of course it's all secret. Shh.

CV: Can you tell us what character you're most excited to write?

MK: STARGIRL. Because I'm a …she's a…I guess Manhunter is technically more unlike me than anybody because he's from Mars but a teenage girl is the most fun to write because it's something I haven't done a lot of. I like the challenge of doing that. Stargirl needs to be everyone's favorite. That's what I'm going to try to do.

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #8 is on sale October 9.

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Less and less things Geoff Johns is doing now :/ Off of GL, now soon Aquaman and this. Ah well, he's a suit now. I love Matt Kindt but I just see this as a step down in the quality of the JLA book to be quite honest...

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sounds cool. It was the buddy cop reference that really sold me.

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I'm confused and/or out of the loop. Where is Batman? I don't see his dead corpse anywhere. Is it because Batman is too cool to die?

Why does it matter if he is alive or dead? Its not like he can do anything, in Johns' eyes Bruce is incompetent and worthless, he's just there so that more people will buy the book.

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Martian Manhunter is awesome and needs to join the Justice League.

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I thought I heard Kindt was taking over this book, but when the Justice League Canada story came out I just assumed that would be starting after Villain's Month. I think I'll take a breather from this series until Lemire jumps on board.

Also, I thought Simon Baz was supposed to live through the "death of the Justice League"?

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@thespideyguy said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

I'm confused and/or out of the loop. Where is Batman? I don't see his dead corpse anywhere. Is it because Batman is too cool to die?

I noticed the same thing.

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I don't see his cowl or a batarang.

I believe Nightwing mentioned him when he was talking on the com (or was that when he was carrying Mr. Zsasz?) so I don't think Bruce is dead yet.

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this sounds like it is going to be a good stroy. I like the two of them but don't know if I will keep getting after it becomes JLC. will have to see.

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I'm confused and/or out of the loop. Where is Batman? I don't see his dead corpse anywhere. Is it because Batman is too cool to die?

I noticed the same thing.

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I don't see his cowl or a batarang.

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I'm confused and/or out of the loop. Where is Batman? I don't see his dead corpse anywhere. Is it because Batman is too cool to die?

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Yes...."dead"...

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*Yawn* It's not like anyone believes they are really dead, they're not going to kill everyone off and, every year they pull this stupid Crime Syndicate thing. Yes, powerful JLA villains... can we please do something new? Isn't that why we did this whole reboot?

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batman didnt fall?

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I find it strangs johns left Startgirl with a outher writer.

As it the first char he made and she was beast on his sister.

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I really like Stargirl so I'm happy she's going to be front and center of his arc. I like the idea of her teaming up with the Manhunter too. I don't like the whole "everyone's dead", if that is actually how it is, I imagine it's gonna be like the end of Blackest Night where everyone came back to life. Obviously I'm just guessing, but seems like there's too much death in comics these days, even if it is only temporary.

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Still forever evil is a great event regardless got my interest back in the new 52

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I don't see any possible way that the end of this story will make sense logically.

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@lvenger said:

Do DC really have to play up the whole dead heroes thing again when it's obvious they aren't? And how did the 7 members of the Crime Syndicate beat all the heroes anyway?

If they had prep it's not improbable for them to defeat the Justice League, they accomplished the same Pre-52

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@ultimatesmfan said:

Finally Courtney gets the spotlight, was waiting for that to happen, the fact that Martian manhunter is in on the action makes it even better! Also kinda answers what exactly happened to everybody so that's interesting.

But at what cost? Everyone else has to be dead for 2 nobodies to shine?

They're obviously not dead. I mean, Superman, Wonder Woman and others all have their own ongoings. Plus, I wouldn't call J'onn a nobody.

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.....

Finally Courtney gets the spotlight, was waiting for that to happen, the fact that Martian manhunter is in on the action makes it even better! Also kinda answers what exactly happened to everybody so that's interesting.

But at what cost? Everyone else has to be dead for 2 nobodies to shine?

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Yay for Stargirl!

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Finally Courtney gets the spotlight, was waiting for that to happen, the fact that Martian manhunter is in on the action makes it even better! Also kinda answers what exactly happened to everybody so that's interesting.

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@lcazt1996 said:

Really looking forward to Kindt's run. It's not very long but I'm a huge MM fan and looking forward to learning more about Stargirl. :)

@kennyshat: Yes, the book becomes JLC when Lemire takes over.

@colanicole: My guess is that Nightwing is going to be the star of Justice League and, as stated here, MM and Stargirl will star in JLA. And we can see from the solicits that John Constantine is alive and kicking too, so my guess is that those are the only "major" (so to speak) characters we'll see from the Justice League books. But I'm hoping to see more non-JL heroes (Black Lightning, Booster Gold, Black Canary, etc.). We're also getting at least Power Girl and Steel in Suicide Squad during Forever Evil.

Steve Trevor and Catwoman also seem to have made it. And Shazam just seems to have turned into Black Adam.

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Ok, Now this is something I can get behind, Manhunter needs to establish himself in the 52 dcu, and reclaim his spot in justice league once again. So would like to see less secrets and mystery with J'onn and return to being the unbreakable hero of justice he is.

And what can I say about Stargirl, I always been a fan and kept the JSA in rotation simply because of her.

look forward to reading this

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@shallbecomeabattoo said:

@citizenbane: yup. Cause Johns hates Batman. He really does. Well, at least he doesn't hold him in as high regard as he hold every other DC character.

But again, about Johns... he is off of JLA now and Aquaman... so he only writes one ongoing anymore? Just JL? Nothing else, or did I miss some announcement. God,I hope he doesn't get a Batman title. That would be heartbreaking to read for me. Alfred beating him up and everybody laughing at him for 20 pages each month.

This is basically what I got from this comment: Johns wrote a non-traditional Batman story. Therefore,it must be horrible.

Arguably the worst case of miscomprehension in human history.

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@citizenbane: yup. Cause Johns hates Batman. He really does. Well, at least he doesn't hold him in as high regard as he hold every other DC character.

But again, about Johns... he is off of JLA now and Aquaman... so he only writes one ongoing anymore? Just JL? Nothing else, or did I miss some announcement. God,I hope he doesn't get a Batman title. That would be heartbreaking to read for me. Alfred beating him up and everybody laughing at him for 20 pages each month.

This is basically what I got from this comment: Johns wrote a non-traditional Batman story. Therefore,it must be horrible.

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It's a shame Kindt's run is only 5 issues

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It's a shame Kindt's run is only 5 issues

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@citizenbane: yup. Cause Johns hates Batman. He really does. Well, at least he doesn't hold him in as high regard as he hold every other DC character.

But again, about Johns... he is off of JLA now and Aquaman... so he only writes one ongoing anymore? Just JL? Nothing else, or did I miss some announcement. God,I hope he doesn't get a Batman title. That would be heartbreaking to read for me. Alfred beating him up and everybody laughing at him for 20 pages each month.

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@ianprime said:

The Last of Us, featuring Martian Manhunter as Joel and Stargirl as Ellie.

I thought the same thing!

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Should be interesting.

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Finally some serious Martian Manhunter action. It's almost as if we've been asking for this since the New 52 launched . . .

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@lcazt1996: My apologies, I sounded more confrontational than I meant to. I've used Firestorm in a couple of battle forum debates so I had to learn a bit about what he can do. The rest of your comments are perfectly sound though and I can definitely see where you're coming from.

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@lvenger: my guess is they don't want to focus on the hero so saying there dead is better afterall forever evil thing is that it villain vs villain

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@lvenger said:

@lcazt1996 said:
@lvenger said:

Do DC really have to play up the whole dead heroes thing again when it's obvious they aren't? And how did the 7 members of the Crime Syndicate beat all the heroes anyway?

Keep in mind all of the Leaguers were already weakened. They were all beating the shit out of one another and then oh look at that a whole new powerful team of villains, with similar powersets to the most powerful members of the League (yes, Firestorm is one of the most powerful members on the teams. Don't try arguing it, because you're wrong.), arrives and is at full power. The teams were also probably extremely demoralized considering Atom, who both the regular League and the JLA thought was on their side, then Cyborg is dying, and so is SUPERMAN. So the Leagues were in a bad, bad place. It isn't much of a surprise to me that they got beaten obviously. (But it also doesn't surprise me that at least John Constantine was able to slip out.)

I know Firestorm is one of the more powerful League members. Why would you assume otherwise? Don't put judgmental comments in like that without knowing the person first.

Oh I wasn't saying that comment to you specifically. There are plenty of people out there who underestimate Firestorm's powers. That was more of a general comment. Sorry.

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I dont see Batman, HE LIVEEEEEES.

In a Johns story? He was probably vaporized.

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@lvenger said:

Do DC really have to play up the whole dead heroes thing again when it's obvious they aren't? And how did the 7 members of the Crime Syndicate beat all the heroes anyway?

Keep in mind all of the Leaguers were already weakened. They were all beating the shit out of one another and then oh look at that a whole new powerful team of villains, with similar powersets to the most powerful members of the League (yes, Firestorm is one of the most powerful members on the teams. Don't try arguing it, because you're wrong.), arrives and is at full power. The teams were also probably extremely demoralized considering Atom, who both the regular League and the JLA thought was on their side, then Cyborg is dying, and so is SUPERMAN. So the Leagues were in a bad, bad place. It isn't much of a surprise to me that they got beaten obviously. (But it also doesn't surprise me that at least John Constantine was able to slip out.)

I know Firestorm is one of the more powerful League members. Why would you assume otherwise? Don't put judgmental comments in like that without knowing the person first.

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I dont see Batman, HE LIVEEEEEES.

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@lvenger said:

Do DC really have to play up the whole dead heroes thing again when it's obvious they aren't? And how did the 7 members of the Crime Syndicate beat all the heroes anyway?

Keep in mind all of the Leaguers were already weakened. They were all beating the shit out of one another and then oh look at that a whole new powerful team of villains, with similar powersets to the most powerful members of the League (yes, Firestorm is one of the most powerful members on the teams. Don't try arguing it, because you're wrong.), arrives and is at full power. The teams were also probably extremely demoralized considering Atom, who both the regular League and the JLA thought was on their side, then Cyborg is dying, and so is SUPERMAN. So the Leagues were in a bad, bad place. It isn't much of a surprise to me that they got beaten obviously. (But it also doesn't surprise me that at least John Constantine was able to slip out.)

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Do DC really have to play up the whole dead heroes thing again when it's obvious they aren't? And how did the 7 members of the Crime Syndicate beat all the heroes anyway?

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Well, this was a bit spoily. But still it's sort of exciting and I can't wait to see what kill them and if they really are dead.

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Sweet! Ssswweeeeeettt! I'm bigtime smiles now! :)

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I love the first image shown. And I can't wait!

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