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How Has Lois Lane Changed in DC's 'The New 52'?

The Pulitzer Prize winning reporter got a make-over too, so what's different?

There's no question about it: the DC Universe has undergone some serious changes with the launch of the "New 52." From the announcement that many of the "crisis" events no longer fit into continuity, to the various different characterizations of these characters (adjectives like "dark" and "edgy" come to mind), it's clear we are dealing with a vastly different universe. However, as much as people are upset about a lot of the changes, some changes have certainly been for the better.

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We've focused a lot of our time analyzing what characteristics are different and what has remained the same with this new DC Universe; analysing Superman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and more -- and we thought it was only fair to give Lois Lane a closer look. While many fans have criticized the way DC has changed some of their female characters; if they happened to read Action Comics #1 and Superman #1 they would find that Lois Lane is one female character that has definitely changed for the better. Now when I say better, I mean, holy cow when did Lois become an interesting and strong female character?

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When Lois first appeared in Action Comics #1 creators Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel were keen on making her a "tough as nails" reporter. At her core, however, Lois was always intended to be the love interest for Clark Kent/Superman and not much else. She loved Superman, but couldn't see past Clark's quirky (and rather obvious) disguise.

Lois had remained a secondary character in the Superman books. Even when she received her own series in the 1950's it was still called "Superman's Girlfriend, Lois Lane." So much for her being her own person. Kidding! Basically, though, Lois just could not get rid of Superman. Even though John Byrne's 'Man of Steel' series definitely shifted Lois from playing the role of damsel in distress, she still was always connected to the "man of steel." This 'new 52' Lois Lane, however, is a heck of a lot more impressive than the old one -- even if she does have a chump boyfriend, and here's why.

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Not Just A Reporter, People!

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DC finally decided to give the "pulitzer prize winning reporter, Lois Lane" a decent raise! And it's about damn time! In the first issue of George Perez's Superman we see a flashback where Lois is being promoted from "G.B.S anchor and Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for The Daily Planet" to the "executive Producer of P.G.N.'s nightly news division" and the "executive Vice President of New Media." The issue portrays Lois behind the scenes, giving orders and running the show behind the camera. She gives the orders to cut a live feed from where the action is taking place because she does not want to endanger the lives of her reporters. This Lois finally gets to be the boss. She's smart, sassy, and has no problem standing up to the man who promoted her to Vice President.

Has Lois Sold Out?

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In Superman #1 Lois Lane and Clark Kent get into a heated debate. Well aware that "print is dying," Lois Lane knows she has to do something. Kent questions whether she has sacrificed her morals and journalistic integrity by reporting on scandals, and Lois replies (essentially) that she is doing what she has to in order to survive; defending Morgan Edge. While this scene doesn't paint Lois in the best light, she makes up for it later in the issue when she demands that her camera crew (Jimmy Olsen and Miko) make their way to safety rather than continue to film footage of Superman taking on an alien monster. When her boss questions her about pulling out, she replies "I can make decisions about my own life and death, don't expect me to make that decision for others." It's clear that Lois' heart is still in the right place, even if she has "sold out."

The New Boyfriend

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It's funny, the first scene where we are introduced to Lois Lane's new boyfriend Jonathan Carroll he is shirtless in Lois' apartment. When she answers the door to greet Clark Kent, Lois is fully clothed. I don't know if this was Perez's way of implying that Lois Lane wears the pants in that relationship or not, but I found it funny. Yes, Jonathan is a little bit of a chump, something I think Clark notices when he meets him and says "Jonathan...Nice name." Nice name since it was also Clark's father's name, but that there doesn't seem to be much else "nice," about him.

Lois And Clark Were Never Married...Much Less Dated

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In a conversation overheard by Clark Kent in the last few pages of Superman #1, Jonathan questions whether Lois "had ever..." (i.e. dated, etc.,..) to which Lois replies rather adamantly "oh no, nothing like that," dismissing any notion that she would ever date Clark Kent.

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Lois Lane is a lot more interesting now than she had been in any of her most recent appearance (Superman "Grounded"). In her more recent appearances she had become seemingly complacent and uninteresting, and here she has taken on a position of power. You get the impression that if she were to chase a story it would be for the sake of the story, not for the chance encounter with Superman. She's certainly stronger, more interesting and has a lot more depth; so it will be interesting to see where George Perez takes the character...hopefully for more than the next five issues. What did you think of Lois Lane in the 'new 52'? Did you enjoy 'Action Comics' #1? What about 'Superman' #1?

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I don't see her dismissing any notion that she would ever date Clark. It's just that she only saw him as a friend and nothing more, why would she try to set him up with other women while trying to be in a place of power.

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@Jamiracles:

Except we already had this scenario with Hal Jordan in the 60s. Also saying dominance isn't very equal. Which brings up how Lois and Clark were a partnership and a rivalry. Now there's a "winner" and their either more apart or mimicking Green Lantern.

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Complaining that Lois' title was called Superman's Girlfriend is stupid, why not complain that Jimmy Olsen was marketed as Superman's Pal. Lois has remained a secondary character because SHE IS A SECONDARY CHARACTER. Just like Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, and Cat Grant, and every character created as an extension of the Superman universe.

The problem with that scene is that it comes off after they were just married even if that didn't happen anymore but more than that it's construction was made to be mean. It was meant to show Clark not having anything and being dejected while you see the girl he's meant to be with, with someone else, it's like an alternate hellish dystopian universe, where everything is topsy turvy and you're husband(or wife) is married to someone else and they're sleeping in front of you just to rub it in. And that's how this was designed, this whole thing was done to rub it in, and basically kick the dog and if you can't see that construction, then I ... just don't even know.

And I'm sure that her being the boss was done to show a woman in power but that's not a great reason to shit on a character and show him with nothing just to lift up Lois.

edit after thinking on this some more:

The problem with this isn't lois lane herself, though she's affected by it. For one thing I hate seeing praise for grant morrisson because he's such a shitty writer that doesn't get Superman or even batman, all star superman couldn't get superman(he was almost amoral), Clark, Jimmy, or Lois correctly. In this he's just trying to get Superman to be a crappy version of Spider-man, a character that was ruined so thoroughly that Marvel had to go against it's normal routine and do a DC on him..

But Superman isn't Spider-Man. For one, He doesn't have spider or hyphen in his name. And even spider-man wasn't so pathetic, Peter knew he was better than the people making fun of him and it was that hubris that led to his uncle getting murdered. Peter even had a girlfriend that was older than he was, and she only started to dislike him when he started to diverge from who he was(and still appeared to be) to a thrill seeker.

The other problem is the idea that Superman pines for Lois while she disdains Clark, that's a myth that comic book writers should know better than to fall into. Lois was always attracted to Clark, and she would have been the one to act on it and invite him on a date in five years(if not Clark inviting Lois). Lois' problem comes from clark not reacting impulsively or violently in situations no one in their right mind would(which leads to her getting kidnapped by gangsters). It's only in the silver age when Superman goes a little out of his to show Clark as wimpy where that isn't in effect, and it goes away whenever he's allowed to be a bit more normal. But in the silverage Superman did date lois because he was comfortable being thought of as Superman, and he was the one that didn't want to commit because he wanted a woman that was his equal. This wasn't for a malicious reason or because he was a snob but because he felt only a super powered woman would be safe living his lifestyle.

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Well hopefully after hearing that conversation at the end we won't see Clark acting like a whipped love-sick puppy pining over Lois. Because while I really disliked the fact they ended their marriage, I don't want to read or see anything like that from Clark again, it makes him look so weak.

So if this is where Lois is, maybe it'll spur this Clark to go out and find someone else who actually does like him.

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This issue fails the Bechdel test. Strong women indeed...

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=311

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@Babs:

HAHAHAHA!!! Hey we've all got our favorite punching bag, and Marvel's made him an easy one with his more hard nosed portrayal lately. I grew up in a very strict military family so Cyke reminds me a lot of my Father/Grand Father/Uncles/etc. I can see his angle in all he's done, but completely get how it puts people off. Oddly I was never much a fan of Cyclops during the Claremont years as a kid. Didn't really care for him until about 2006 or so when he made his "heel turn", so to speak.

And if I worked here I'm sure I'd do a weekly article on why Jason Todd deserves to have been retconned out of existence in the DCnu :P but I ramble, great article on Lois.

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Why is it when Starfire, an ALIEN, doesn't abide by American social mores about sexuality, there is half an editorial dedicated to DC's  pandering to the lowest common denominator...but when Lois Lane (Lois mo' fuggin' LANE) is going to get back to "...celebrating" with her shirtless boyrfriend, there isn't a word mentioned? 
 
I don't think there should be any complaints, mind you.  The character is a grown woman who is allowed to have sex with her boyfriend (suck on THAT, Dr. Wertham).  I just don't get why it's such a taboo for one character, and completely okay for another.   
 
I also find it funny that so few people complain when a character rips another in half or chops someone into little pieces (Invincible, Wolverine, Sentry, Joker, etc., etc., etc.), but if you're a good-looking woman who sleeps with more than one guy?  How DARE you?! 
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not really a fan of Lois with a topless dude in her apartment.

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Sadly I can't afford to put Superman on my pull list, but I can't wait to see more of her in Action Comics!

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I thoroughly enjoyed Superman #1.
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So I guess this means the Death Of Superman never happened?

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Meh Superman was so overwritten that it made my head hurt,i'll be following Lois in Action.

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one of the few decent representations of woman in the New DC 52... so far.

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@Babylonian said:

Whoa. That last bit with the superhearing in the hallway is particularly brutal. It's cool to see them finally pay attention to this character! I just hope they give her more characterization in the future than "ruthless" and "dating someone who isn't Superman."

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I'm still undecided on this new Lois, but i'm looking forward to seeing where they take her character.

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I have never been a fan of the Lois Lane character as she was never stood out and seemed to be a hinderance to Superman's character

Barry has Iris and you felt that their relationship was a huge part of The Flash's motivation. But the Clark/Lois relationship just never clicked with me....ever

The same can be said for Peter Parker and MJ they needed their love to keep them grounded and makes for a better hero

So I know it would be impossible to see Lois disappear I suppose this is the next best thing as we get to see a progression in their relaionship, if in fact they decide to develop one that is

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Seems like they carried a bit of her persona and attitude from Flashpoint :P

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thank god ll and ck are not a couple. HATED reading it.

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They've turned Lois Lane...into a hussy?

How is she in any way, shape or form a hussy?
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So, no one else is going to catch on to that little moment of Clark using his super hearing to spy on a private conversation? Tad bit stalker-ish.

The entire scene of the introduction of Lois' new boyfriend is one giant cliche. Awkward attempt at reconciliation after argument, bf/gf walks in (partially undressed), awkward meeting with predictable dialog (example: "Oh, you're the *insert name here* I've heard so much about"), protagonist awkwardly excuses himself/herself for interrupting, the bf/gf asks if the two ever dated, the romantic interest denies, and the single person sadly walks away alone and head down. (sad panda)

Someone's been watching too many rom-coms when they wrote this scene. This dude Jonathan Caroll can not get hit by a bus fast enough.

I will argue with the people mocking Lois for this series and calling her names. If she's single she can date or sleep with who she wants. It's not Lois' fault she was put with a stereotype douche bag. It's the author.

Worse yet, thanks to DC the biggest marriage in comics is now Reed and Susan Richards. The one where the husband is often more preoccupied with his inventions, and wife is often flirting with a fish.

@RoninLoganX:

The way this gets under my skin. It's because it's confirming that all the stories that I used to read and enjoy were simply tossed away like yesterday's trash. They will never have any baring on anything that's to come.

All of this just so they will eventually end up back together. It's a whole lot of flash to end up right where you started. It's not change if nothing really changes.

Though, I haven't bought Superman comics in a VERY long time. The character just got boring because he was too overpowered. This doesn't effect me in any way, but does ensure I'll never come back. The way this is different than OMD. I was actually buying Spider-man comics before that god awful story..

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They've turned Lois Lane...into a hussy?

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You know what, this whole shake it up for new audience in comics is really starting to get on my nerves. Now, I'll admit that I am a fan of Clark and Lois being together, which makes this feel very OMD-ish for me, but in general this whole "Relaunch" rubs me the wrong way. If something isn't working with a character or a story isn't working, that doesn't mean you need to reboot everything to fix i. They just needed to get a good writer to come up with a great story that utilizes said character in a interesting way to get them back on track. This whole 52 thing feels very gimmicky to me, and not in a good way. Hopefully, we'll see some comics from the regular DCU coming back.

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It sucks that they erased Lois and Supermans marriage from history. 
 
I always thought that Lois was already and strong character before the whole New 52 thing. But I guess thats my opinion... 
 
Lets see where Dc take this 'new' Lois Lane?
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Holy misunderstanding, Batman!

Lois never printed lies! She printed stories exposing how the Globe published lies under Edge's predecessor. She specifically says that the Planet will never print lies or tarnish its reputation because, beyond anything else, it would be bad for business.

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@Babylonian: 
I agree. She reminds me too much of Wendie Malick's character, Nina, from "Just Shoot Me".
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@Jamiracles: Well, pardon me for saying so but I want to see Superman kill some random innocent guy before Lois gets all these "necessary" changes that are essential to her need for staying relevant.

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@The Dark Huntress: Well, I for one, believe that the issue with Lois is even more critical than the one with Starfire. Lois for one has always represented something more altruistic; she has a longer history and is a more staple character, whereas Starfire has never actually had her own defining characteristics and I doubt the new changes will stick around to give her some. So yes Starfire has lost her integrity and reputation or whatever you want to call it but it's not like she's ever had one in the first place at least in the same abundance as Lois.

The reason DC is making these changes to have her be inspired from Superman or Clark. But Lois is supposed to have already been there before Clark; she's supposed to have won Pulitzer Prize before Clark even began working for the Planet. If anything, Lois is supposed to be Clark's inspiration, not the other way around. It's okay for Supergirl, the Legion of Superheroes or later generation of superheroes to be inspired by Superman but Lois has always been ahead of them.

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@MrUnknown said:

@The Dark Huntress: I would agree with you but these first issues are more than just any first issue. They are supposed to reintroduce characters to the readers, show them why they ever liked them in the first place not make them turn full circle and be disgusted by the newer versions. Just from that sole instance, the reputation that Lois Lane has had since her creation and represented has been tarnished.

Actually that's not the case.

For certain characters DC applied an "If it aint broke dont fix it" type method for characters like Batman, Batwoman etc. But the intention of the new 52 was also to re-work classic characters for a new age.

Lois Lane isnt on the frontlines leading some revolution with machine guns any more, shes surviving at what shes worked at her entire life. She is someone whose achieved everything shes worked at and now shes dealing with a whole set of complicated problems that flying and punching up dudes cant fix. Politics. Business. It takes a lot of guts to do what shes doing, to make the choices shes making and just like in real life the moral option isn't always the best one. Not when you've got to figure out a way for all the people you came up with to have jobs the next day and put food on the table in the crumbling world of print journalism.

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Don't know how to feel about Lois....

On one hand, she's not under Supes' shadow, but on the other hand, they just paired her up with another guy just so they could say that she isn't with Clark in the new universe. I didn't see so much change in Lois besides the false story printing....

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I really need Lois Lane to be exactly like Spider Jerusalem. Shave her head, get some cool tatts, and then expose the truth. Now thats real journalism. 

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@MrUnknown said:

@The Dark Huntress: I would agree with you but these first issues are more than just any first issue. They are supposed to reintroduce characters to the readers, show them why they ever liked them in the first place not make them turn full circle and be disgusted by the newer versions. Just from that sole instance, the reputation that Lois Lane has had since her creation and represented has been tarnished.

I agree and actually kind of feel a bit hypocritical for my previous statement, as I'm one of the people who's been railing so hard against how Starfire was portrayed in the first issue of Red Hood.

I feel that this situation differs a bit from that, but you're right in that the underlying similarity is that this is supposed to draw in new readers and the way that Lois appeared was perhaps not the best representation of the core personality of the Lois that we all know and love. And despite us longtime readers knowing that things may (and probably will) change, it's not necessarily the best for new readers.

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Lois did not write false stories. If you look at the panels you posted. She was arguing the point that print was dead and that moving onto television and internet media was the way to go. Clark reminded her that she had previously investigated the Globe (Edge's corporation) and exposed their dirty tactics. He wonders about the DP's integrity and she tells him that with her on the inside, she will be able to assure that DP's integrity remains in tact. Clark definitely does NOT want to be in front of the camera with millions watching if he took her old job as she suggested.

There hasn't been much of Lois in the comics for the past 3 years nor Clark for that matter. Superman or Kal-El, yes. But previously she has been bad ass, a great protector and supporter of Clark and his work and has saved him on occasion.

I thought Perez did a wonderful job in introducing this 'present day' story and relationships.

My main worry with the Superman story in the DCnU is with Action. Morrison has not allowed Lois to meet Superman or Clark Kent. He's been in town 6 months and she's only named him. Jimmy, on the other hand, has Clark's digits in his phone. In a recent interview Morrison said that Clark is not even aware of Lois though she insults him. This is VERY different from the Golden Age Action #1 where Clark asks her out on a date and Superman saves her for the first time.

I'm not sure when Morrison plans on bringing these two into each other's orbit. For now, we'll have to depend on Perez to see how these two interact. The discussion in Superman #1 was a fine example of how these two care for one another and fight fair.

I will miss the marriage, but I'm hoping that at least one of the books will show us a very natural progression for these two and their triangle made for two.

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@The Dark Huntress: I would agree with you but these first issues are more than just any first issue. They are supposed to reintroduce characters to the readers, show them why they ever liked them in the first place not make them turn full circle and be disgusted by the newer versions. Just from that sole instance, the reputation that Lois Lane has had since her creation and represented has been tarnished.

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@ScarlettLynn said:

@Jekylhyde14 said:

I'm also happy that we're getting to watch their relationship build in a realistic way. One thing that always bothered me about how Byrne characterized their relationship was that Clark seemed to love her the second he saw her. The main obstacle was Superman and that faded almost as soon as he revealed his identity to her (under Stern). This way we're seeing a much more organic and gradual build of attraction. Can't wait to read more of Morrison's Action Comics and Perez's Superman.

I agree with that so much. The chance to watch their relationship unfold is really exciting to me. From getting the chance to see it in a more modern era; to getting to actually watch it unfold as a relatively new reader who didn't really get to read much of their courtship the first time around.

Thanks! I'm glad you feel that way as a relatively new reader. Romantic drama is a major pull for any form of entertainment, and, as things stood with the marriage, there was little drama to be had romantically. Everything was resolved. The new status quo should be much more engaging for everyone.

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I've often found Lois to be a bit pushy and annoying (the old stereotype for reporters), but I'm glad they're making her more complex.  Hopefully Clark's morality will eventually rubs off on her, with her still retaining the complexity.

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@The Dark Huntress: Lol thanks. >.<

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@Jekylhyde14 said:

I'm also happy that we're getting to watch their relationship build in a realistic way. One thing that always bothered me about how Byrne characterized their relationship was that Clark seemed to love her the second he saw her. The main obstacle was Superman and that faded almost as soon as he revealed his identity to her (under Stern). This way we're seeing a much more organic and gradual build of attraction. Can't wait to read more of Morrison's Action Comics and Perez's Superman.

I agree with that so much. The chance to watch their relationship unfold is really exciting to me. From getting the chance to see it in a more modern era; to getting to actually watch it unfold as a relatively new reader who didn't really get to read much of their courtship the first time around.

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@MrUnknown said:

Lois seems to have lost her integrity and reputation now. And I don't mean with regards to getting a new boyfriend (that's not going to last long anyways) but she's always had the best interest for the Daily Planet and has stood for truth and freedom of the press.

I think a first issue may be a little early to judge her integrity and such. We don't know how she's going to grow in the following issues or which turns she may take.

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I don't see what your seeing at all in her. She doesn't put others people in danger but makes up false stories in her own name and that makes her stronger. The last scenes were casual and I didn't read the whole subtext into it that you mentioned. I guess stronger character means someone you won't like.

I want to know with this and other articles about the same subject that to make a strong female character they have to be dominant, cold, aggressive, etc.. What ever happened to equals because when male heroes have this attitude they are considered jerks.

Since she was first introduced Lois Lane has always been an accurate representation of the the American woman throughout history.

Whats provocative about her now isn't that shes being heartless its that she represents an era of women coming into dominance after a lifetime of being held back. Shes making these harsh decisions because a lot more is on her shoulders than ever before. Shes vulnerable. Like anyone can be. But she has someone like Clark in her life who can help her be a better leader.

The more I see from you the more I like ^__^

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I've enjoyed the changes in Lois and how it's effected her relationship with Clark. The argument between the two was probably my favorite part of Superman #1. You could feel the tension. Clark wanted to impart some of his ideals onto Lois while she took the side of practicality. You could see it mattered to both of them what the other thought showing you that there's more to their relationship than what Lois is letting on. We respect Lois more by the end of the book because she was able to get results without compromising her morals (though we'll have to keep an eye on how that progresses in the future). She's definitely a stronger character being out of the marriage.

I'm also happy that we're getting to watch their relationship build in a realistic way. One thing that always bothered me about how Byrne characterized their relationship was that Clark seemed to love her the second he saw her. The main obstacle was Superman and that faded almost as soon as he revealed his identity to her (under Stern). This way we're seeing a much more organic and gradual build of attraction. Can't wait to read more of Morrison's Action Comics and Perez's Superman.

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@Grimoire said:

I don't see what your seeing at all in her. She doesn't put others people in danger but makes up false stories in her own name and that makes her stronger. The last scenes were casual and I didn't read the whole subtext into it that you mentioned. I guess stronger character means someone you won't like.

I want to know with this and other articles about the same subject that to make a strong female character they have to be dominant, cold, aggressive, etc.. What ever happened to equals because when male heroes have this attitude they are considered jerks.

Since she was first introduced Lois Lane has always been an accurate representation of the American woman and her progress in the battle for civil rights throughout history.

Whats provocative about her now isn't that shes being heartless its that she represents an era of women coming into dominance after a lifetime of being held back. Shes making these harsh decisions because a lot more is on her shoulders than ever before. Shes vulnerable. Like anyone can be. But she has someone like Clark in her life who can help her be a better leader.

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Lois seems to have lost her integrity and reputation now. And I don't mean with regards to getting a new boyfriend (that's not going to last long anyways) but she's always had the best interest for the Daily Planet and has stood for truth and freedom of the press.

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Whoever had the idea to put Lois in Perry's position is sharp, and so is the inclusion of the boy toy. If this goes where I think its going to go, Superman's relationship with Lois (while always relevant to the times) might finally be interesting. And significant.

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Before New 52 I was wishing they would adapt Dean Trippe's idea for Lois Lane Girl Reporter. It would've given her a substantive backstory, tied into the Silver Age stuff like Grant Morrison loves doing, and could appeal to a wide audience like Spiderman Loves Mary Jane. With this new unsympathetic Lois, I don't like/care about her enough to want it.

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I liked the way that they changed Lois, although I wasn't a big fan of the issue (Superman #1).

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@Babs: Thanks for the articles geared towards strong women lately! :)

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Wouldn't you rather she be honest though, as opposed to lying/mis-representing herself in articles in order to garner favor with the masses of CV ;)

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@Babs:I'm just teasing. ;)

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@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

Also, if this was Cyclops instead of Lois Babs would probably write another article about how much he sucks.

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Yes, definitely a much stronger Lois than we are used to. No longer in the shadow of the Man of Steel. Of course, with her stronger role comes a bigger degree of bad@$$ness, as well as attitude. Not that either is an unwelcome change. I guess I really just miss Lois and Clark the couple really and am hoping some day, somewhere this New 52 Lois will be involved with him again. Still, one way or another, Go Lois!

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Lois Lane is definitely more interesting, but then again that probably because she's actually being focused on instead of hardly being in any of the stories. Anyone who complains about her or her relationship w/Clark should just relax. It'll be fine in the end.

Also, if this was Cyclops instead of Lois Babs would probably write another article about how much he sucks.

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@Grimoire said:

I want to know with this and other articles about the same subject that to make a strong female character they have to be dominant, cold, aggressive, etc.. What ever happened to equals because when male heroes have this attitude they are considered jerks.

Double standard... It's all over the world. :D
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