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How Do You Make A 'Black Panther' Movie?

How would you interpret the character?

If you need a little more T'Challa in your life, then you'll be happy to hear that Marvel Studios is seriously considering bringing Black Panther to the big screen. According to a report late last week by Heat Vision, Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige confirmed that a Black Panther film is definitely back in development at Marvel, and that documentarian Mark Bailey has been hired to write the script.    

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While Bailey may not have a plethora of experience writing comic book characters, he is more than a little bit familiar with writing stories centered around the injustices facing humanity, having scripted both Pandemic: Facing Aids, and The Ghosts of Abu Ghraib. Needless to say, even if Bailey doesn't have Fantastic Four #52 (Black Panther's first appearance) chilling in a glass case, I think he has plenty of experience in research, so I have faith that he'll have no problem sorting through Black Panther's rich history. 

This is not the first time we have heard about a Black Panther movie. In fact, back in the early 90's,  a film was being developed by Columbia Pictures that would have starred actor Wesley Snipes. Can you imagine Wesley Snipes as Blade and T'Challa? Talk about a contradiction. There has also been another more recent adaptation of the character with the Animated Series that was set to air on BET two years ago- but never did.
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BP Fans first caught a preview of the Black Panther Animated series at San Diego Comic-Con back in July of 2008. It is there that fans were promised a show focused on the popular African  comic book character. However, after leaving BET, long time Black Panther writer and former President of BET Reginald Hudlin wanted to take the show with him; and conflicts regarding rights of ownership ensued, leading both parties to refrain from airing the show in the United States whatsoever.  
 
The series, which was stylistically similar to a motion comic, was based on the art of John Romita Jr. and its script on Reginald Hudlin's Black Panther comic series published by Marvel. It was unfortunate that an afrocentric superhero like Black Panther wasn't able to air on BET, thus eliminating the opportunity to introduce the Black superhero to a whole new audience. The series did eventually air in Australia, however, and has since been available for purchase on iTunes. More recently, the show was also released on DVD. If you missed this show, and you are a Black Panther fan, I recommend you give it a shot as it happens to be pretty good.

It would have been nice to see the cartoon air on television, if for nothing more than to gauge how successful a film version of the character would be. When he was first introduced, Black Panther was presented as the ruler of Wakanda, an African country rich in Vibranium which had for centuries remained isolated from the rest of the world. Technologically advanced, while maintaining a rich culture and history, Wakanda is very different from the rest of the Marvel Universe and an interesting choice for the next Marvel film. With many different interpretations of Black Panther- both Ruler and spiritual incarnation of the Panther God- there are a variety of different avenues that Marvel could take T'Challa. 

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The idea that Black Panther is not only the warrior and protector of an entire country isn't exactly an idea grounded in reality; but then again, neither is the story of a sort of mad scientist who built a suit to fly around in. While it is evident that Marvel has, over the years, managed to bridge the gap between the spiritual and political elements that make Black Panther, how will he work on the big screen? 

Would Marvel's film focus on the Black Panther, ruler of Wakanda who fights the Fantastic Four and Captain America, or would they make him the protector of Hells Kitchen and the new "Man Without Fear"?

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@daredevil21134 said:
Michael jai white
If it's not him.I refuse to see the film...if Marvel is even planning on making one.
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The best way to make a Black Panther movie is to go all in. 
 
If you fear the name Black Panther or fear the idea of a powerful black super hero it will fail because the lack of confidence in the product will manifest itself on the big screen. 
 
Barack 'Hussein" Obama made it as president with that name and almost four years later it has been proven that it did not mean what many before he was elected implied that it meant. 
 
Every time that an effort is made to avoid or hide from the true concept of Black Panther it continues to fail so the approach should be to put that name out there and ride that "Storm" of controversy. 
 
There will be those who shy away from it at first but once the trailers show the action potential this type of movie could catch a buzz of excitement because for the first time in a long time a movie steps out of the boundaries of the standard norm for super hero movies. 
 
There is no other movie that could compare to this one so it might create a whole new genre upon its release… That is if Marvel is willing to take that chance!

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I think it'd be pretty sweet if it were a no comedy type, will smith would be pressured into cracking jokes. maybe somebody like isiaih Washington, or wood Harris from next day.This movie, if rushed, will be a black iron man, or a an African batman. They have to plan and always think, "would an African king with an above sea level Atlantis like kingdom do this?" Also keep in mind he lives in Africa, meaning hes got plenty threatening his people right at home. Drug cartels, slave trade, weapons shipping, black market exchange, vibranium thieves, and embezzlement.

Mainly, they should go political as well as action.

that would be the perfect mix to balance a king as well as a warrior

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How about my namesake Denzel in the title role( or maybe he's getting a bit too long in the tooth at 57?)

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What issue is the picture of Storm and T'challa in? 
 

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@daredevil21134: He would be a good pic for the panther!
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I think the story should start with Tchaka fighting a war against the ape clan and protecting his people from harm. Making brave sacrifices and having great emotional showings inorder to connect the character with the audience (for emotional value when he later is killed). Wakanda is then depitced and shown as a beautiful, advanced, healthy nation where it's people interact and live soundly. Tchaka Finds white wolf (I don't care if he's made to be a white guy or not) and takes him in as a son. Tchaka Later has Tchalla and the white wolf resents him and Tchaka since Tchaka gives more focus to Tchalla.
 
 Then Tchalla and White Wolf (as a young teens) are shown being sent on his ceremonial travels through Africa upon which Tchalla takes notice of all the struggle and war going on outside of his isolationist nation of Wakanda. White Wolf shows little empathy for the outsiders and it only cements his belief that Wakanda shouldn't reach out to what he thinks is a savage outside world. Tchalla choses to go abroad to the US (because it has to happen) for his studies and see's some of the same poverty, crime, and struggles there. Ofcourse he does a small amount of streetcrime fighting there to help stop it (helping all races of citizens). He speaks to his father (via phone or device) about wakanda's isolationism, all he's seen on his travels, and it's ability to be help the world but it creates small amount conflict with his father because of Tchaka's distrust of outsiders (created by the events seen in his lifetime like slavery and the sale of fellow Africans by other Africans as well). 
 
 Tchaka eventually starts to come around though and decided to meet with other nations to improve relations. White Wolf takes this as a sign that Tchaka is getting weak and devises a plan with the aid of Klaw. Scene's later Tchaka is killed by Klaw  in a national meeting assassination (ala the Motion comic). Tchalla after getting the news has to come home. A battle royal for the mantle takes place with White Wolf and Tchalla making it to the finals. White Wolf somehow wins and takes the thrown casting Tchalla out of Wakanda with intent to turn wakanda into an aggresive nation that seeks to conquor of destroy any other nation it deems a potential threat (starting with the US). Tchalla (now banished) trains in various forms of Martial arts (rocky scene!) and prepares himself further to defeat The White Wolf. With an impending war with the United States Tchalla infiltrates shield HQ (takes down a large number of guards ^_~) and confronts Nick Fury telling him to delay his assault on Wakanda and that he (tchalla) will take his country back to avert war. Fury agrees and Tchalla is off to Wakanda. Still having allies there opposed to White wolfs plans Tchalla is met by Shuri (or a Dora) and is lead to the Heart shaped herb and a place to test himself before the panther God. He does so, passes, eats the herb, and takes down the Wolf and Klaw.    
 

that's the jist of what I'd like to see. 

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Aldis Hodge as Black Panther / TChalla

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@OmegaTheDestroyer said:
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Djimon Hounsou or Adewale-Akinnuoye Agbaje as T'Challa

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I Agree
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Well, he isn't the first Black superhero. I don't think. I kind of think they should use Priest's approach to Black Panther's personality, but Hudlin's arc on the first run that was adapted into the Black Panther show that was briefly on BET.

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In my opinion that Deawon Delenay dude has the best casting and a pretty good setting.

 

Really it should focus on Wakanda and what leads to the country being so isolated. As for the Black Panther itself it should actually just be about the people who became Black Panther and why he is such a symbol for the Wakandans. Like why the Black panther is the poretector of Wakanda. Why is the Panther more woshipped than the Lion or Gorilla cults. 
 
I also feel that theChristopher Priest version should be represented over Hudlin's. It just opens for more story arcs to add or spin off shows like a Kasper Cole White Tiger spin-off series. 
 
Plus on top of that we need to have a movie in Africa showing africans not being ignorant idiots running around looking like savage idiots needing a caucasion hero or Nelson Mandela to save them. I feel that we need have a movie showing Wakandans being normal human beings in country getting put in a dire situation with the Black Panther leading them and keeping things together. This can really put Black Panther on the map.  
 
I will put my two cents about the subject of race. I know some people say that race shouldn't be an issue in comics. I disagree, I feel that we do. I like reading comics about superheroes who go thru the same problems we do. I know this is wrong wrong but I do find it interesting that Luke cage and Jessics jones get so much heat for their interracial relationship cause really it is something that we go thru in real life. I like how Elijah Bradley and Kate(hawkeye) can't date due to their economic and racial backgrounds.  
 
I have read some of the comments about how making T'Challa a caucasion shouldn't matter. No it does matter. Black Panther is icon in the black community. People who have read Truth Red White and Black, Isaisah bradley is an icon.  
 
There is a difference between Black Panther and Nick Fury. Nick Fury is an iconic superhero. and yesh he does make a difference in the Marvel Universe. Do I feel that the Ultimate Universe should have changed racial backrgounds among superheroes? No, but I can see why. I do think putting Ultimate Nick Fury in the Marvel 616 movies is a bad idea.....period. To be honest I am not a Nick Fury fan cause I dont see the big deal of someone always hiding behind life decoy models. That's just me,  
 
Black Panther is the first black superhero...the first. You make cast a caucasion or someone light skinned, that is suppose to be from an African Nation that has never really broke bread with caucasions  and country full of chocolate skinned and dark skinned africans then you asking for a outright boycott.  Many people will take it as a message of saying that "Only a caucasion can  tame africa." 
 
Back to the movie..I think the movie should be more Wakando getting noticed by Axis and Allies. Like start with Azzuri meeting Captaian America(People love Cameos), then move to Tchaka and with him getting killed by Claw and then finished the movie with TChalla taking the role of Black Panther and him starting a relationship with the avengers and adding Wakanda to the UN.  
 
As for casting this is the perfect cast. (Those of you who said Will Smith should be T'Challa need to be smacked in the mouth. That overrated non-taleneted so-called actor can't even act being original superhero. Can we say Hancock?) 
 
    

T'Chaka - Peter Mensah (Persian Mesanger from 300) 
T'Challa - Chiwetal Ejiofor (Watch this guy in Amistad, Serenity and Black belt, you will see he is the perfect choice) 
S'Yan - Djimon Hounsou (yeah he has T'Challa's voice but the guy is gettng old) 
Ororo Munroe - Thandie Newton (If she gained some weight, but I loved her as Condolizza Rice Impersonation in W.) 
Erik Kilmonger - Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje 
Shuri - Kandise Mcclure  (Battlestar Galactica)
M'Buku aka Man-Ape  - Michael Jai White 
Ulysses klaw - Clive Owen 
Mother Ramona - Angela bassett 

 

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I thought that making the Kingpin black was a horrible idea and its part of the reason I never bothered to watch the Daredevil movie. 
 
I dont like it when things are different than the comic, I try to tell myself its not Earth 616 or whatever the hell and that helps me deal with it. This is how I justify watching and enjoying Young Justice.  
 
It does suck when kids who dont know the source material grow up thinking Deadpool has a sealed mouth and knife arms. I feel bad for those poor kids.
 
They kinda snuck in the black Nick Fury into the movies by making him pop up as cameos. That was sneaky, I dont think I would of gone to see a Nick Fury movie with Sam Jackson. 
 
I will go see the Avengers though and probably enjoy it all the same even though I dont agree with making Fury a black guy.  I will convince myself its ok cause its not in Marvel continuity or I imagine the real Nick Fury is underneath Samuel's face and hes just elaborately disguised as a black guy.
 
I guess I pick and choose when to get butt hurt over these types of things.  
 
I do know one thing for sure, I will never in a million years watch a Black Panther movie with a white guy.

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Lets just cast a light skinned Black dude. That way everybody's happy LOL!
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Hi der fellow Wakandans...pls chek dis out:

Which of these 9 men should be the Black Panther?

http://blastr.com/assets_c/2011/01/black_panther_OPEN-thumb-550x400-55869.jpg
    


Thoughts?
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@Static Shock: We c nothing wrong with dat...at least it doesnt forcefully poke-nose in2 everybodies bizness....like d US which is very hypocritikal such as d US refusing Korea and Iran 2 develop Nuclear teknology yet dey have such weapons en masse in several hidden installments all over America. Bunch of liars.
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@Insignia said:
" Just out of curiosity, has Wakanda kept its wealth for itself or for Africa as a whole? "
Wakanda keeps everything for itself. It's isolationist.
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Last year, I sat in on an evening with Spike Lee... I asked him if he remembered how pissed/hurt he was when the studio gave Ali to Michael Mann, then I went on to explain to him that with the way he handled 25th Hour... Black Panther would create a new role model for young black men. He kept on mentioning the sci-fi aspects, I brought up the royal aspect of the character. Hopefully Kenneth Brannagh will compel him to give it a shot?

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First off if this was 10 years ago Akinnuoye-Agbaje (who instead should play man ape), or  Djimon Hounsou (who instead should play Cyan TChallas uncle and the man who became black panther until TChalla was old enough) would be perfect for these parts but since they are going relatively young with the cast my choice would be Chiwetelu Ejiofor (the dude from 2012, salt, serenity, and american gangster). 
As for the setting it should mainly take place in Wakanda (which would look like something out of lord of the rings and Star Wars structure wise). As for plot wise it should start off 16 years ago where TChaka (played by Colin Salmon), bringing in scientist in hopes of making Wakanda more social with the rest of the world, and he is killed in cold blood by a young scientist Ulyses Klaw (played by David Tennant) who wants to use vibranium as a weapon of mass destruction for a terrorist organization (AIM), A 16 year old TChalla see's this and while trying to stop Klaw he cuts off his hand but he still escapes with a good amount of vibranium.  Cyan becomes king until TChalla is old enough and TChalla leaves wakanda to study abroad. 16 years later TChalla has still not come back and has become disenfranchised with his home land so he decides to stay and teach in Oxford while also fighting crime as a vigilante (The Man without fear version)  in England, and he also taking down AIM agents that have a branch in England as well, he also falls in love with a lounge singer named Monica Lynne (Kerry Washington) who is actually working for SHIELD with her partner Everett Ross (Shane West or Jason Biggs if you want comic relief), they are trying to manipulate TChalla so he can help open the borders of Wakanda.  
One night he is visited by his adopted brother Hunter (Idris Ilba) and the Dora Mijale stating that he has to come home because his cousin TShan was killed, and it is time he claimed his throne and his sister Shuri (Kandyse McClure Dee Dualla from from battlestar Galactica) misses him. In the process he also kidnaps Lynn and Ross (since he knew there plan all along and bring them to Wakanda as his guest). The story should focus on Wakanda wanting to be closed off to the rest of the world, TChalla becoming the true Black Panther, the betrayl of Man Ape, the return of Ulysaes Klaw, and a small war between Man Apes and Klaws forces vs The Black Panther and his family with there army of the Dora Mijale.

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I cant wait for this movie.
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 I'd love to see it set exclusively in Wakanda, would be great to expand the Marvel Movieverse.
 
I know it would never happen, but I think it would be amazing if they could pull a complete "Metroid" on the movie.
 
You meet Black Panther, you see him fighting and rather than interactions with the character exactly, you learn about him through what he means to the people he has saved.
 
Then, at the end... it wasn't T'Challa at all, it was Shuri.

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@mrmisanthrope said:

" Make him white.  Then watch all the people who claimed it was racist of people to be upset about the race swaps of Nick Fury, Wasp, Blue Beetle, The Question, Mr Terrific, Johnny/Jakeem Thunder, The Atom, etc suddenly all become hypocrites. 

I agree, lets make him white.
 
As a matter of fact lets make all black superheroes white and all white superheroes black.
 
Then we can set back and watch all the hypocrites who hate to see any nonwhite superheroes get any shine, cry when there are no white superhero movies for years and years on end.
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@mrmisanthrope:  
LMAO @ The Cap comic, and yeah...resurrected Superman. Thanks for reminding me of that :( 
 
No I don't think there isn't more to T'Challa than his ethnicity.  
 
And now I get what you're saying, folk. But what I'm saying is I wouldn't want to see the changes you described being done on a panther film, because they're is nothing in comics backing it. When I see a comic film I want to see the stories I've read come to life on the big screen. Now if marvel had a Black Panther on Earth fill in the blank with the set up you described and they chose to adapt those elements to the film (as marvel often does) then It wouldn't bother me. When companies have multiverses like Marvel/DC it allows for major or minor tweeks to be made to a character. Which is fine to me. Writers should feel free to change ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, origin, etc. in this context. If I don't like it, I just don't read it. 
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@The Stegman:  Ult. Fury is everything the 00's have been about, and I find that boring.
 
I find sarcastic assholes boring. The medium is flooded with them by Millar, Bendis, Ennis, and on occasion even Vaughn and Ellis. They bore me.
 
On top of everything else, why did he need to be modeled after Samuel L. Jackson? It's cheap and exploitative. If you say it's un-important, then why couldn't they have just left his appearance as it was?
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@mrmisanthrope: well i respect your opinion and your'e entitled to one. and to be honest the only thing i've read 616 fury in is secret invasion and some Siege stuff, i was going to read more of his past works but he didn't really do much for me in the stuff i've read,and probably won't in the older works, i get your'e a fan of him, and i don't wanna be little him, but he's just the boring "badass" archetype for me that you see a million times, Ult Fury is just more interesting,matter of fact him, and ult spider-man are the only good things the ult universe have going for it
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@The Stegman:  "Super-hero" "Douchebag". Pick one.
 
I read comic books for escapism, how am I supposed to root for the hero if I want him to fall down a flight of stairs?
 
And really, claiming Nick Fury isn't "free-thinking"? I ask you again, have you read ANYTHING he's in? It's really irritating how your only defense for Ult. Fury is that he's an asshole.
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@JonesDeini: 
I pointed out a scenario to you similar to what they did with Fury. If his entire family background and history can be changed, why not T'Challa? It's no more egregious a change. If you really think the Black Panther being black and African is all there is to his character, what does that say about him? I pointed out it could be like South Africa. Vibranium isn't a uniquely African idea, there's some of it in the Savage Land in fact.
 
My point is if it's not okay to swap his race, it's not okay to swap Fury's race. Why couldn't they have just created a new SHIELD agent? For that matter, there were already black SHIELD agents.
 
As for Buckycap, I'll never accept Bucky as Captain America. And the costume is typical Alex Ross. Keep a semblance of the costume in the chest in head, make the rest solid black. I think the term is "Alex Ross Pants" but I'd have to google. Other than that, he's just got a gun. Not even a terribly impressive one. It feels so very 90's. First time I saw him the image that immediately came to mind was Superman after he returned from death, depowered and in a black costume firing off guns.
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@mrmisanthrope: oh don't get me wrong, the regular nick fury IS a badass, but it's been done sooooooooooooo many times before, i mean how many mad max/wolverine/ Snake plissken characters do we need to see? "oh i'm gonna go in with a cigar and shoot up the place shirtless saving the day" it's been done to death and frankly it's boring, i like how the ultimate fury is more of a free thinking, he doesn't JUST shoot people, is he a douche? YES HE IS!! and i love it, how his ego clashes with all the other characters, his presence is so demanding  
 
 

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If they use Priest's Black Panther and not Hudlin's it should be fairly easy.

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@The Stegman: I'm sorry, but your description makes it pretty clear you've never read anything with 616 Fury, and probably very little with Ult. Fury.
 
Nick Fury is a badass, a throwback to the days when instead of political intrigue, the best solution to dealing with terrorists was lasers to the face. Ult. Fury is just Samuel L. Jackson with an eye patch. that's it. His character is boring, embarrassing garbage. For comparison, This is Nick Fury doing what Nick Fury does:

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To summarize, one of them does badass things, the other is just a douche who's full of himself.
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That would be awesome, I love comic based movies! It's so awesome how everybody is into comic movies now and they're basically dominating genre for movies. Obviously I'd rather see a Moon Knight movie be made first because he's my favorite Marvel, but Black Panther is awesome too!

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3 words: Get. Christopher. Nolan. 

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Why is it that every time a black role is rumored, everyone cries "Will Smith"? Does Will Smith really seem like he can pull off African to you? The accent? The native look? I did not think so. 
 
I would hope for the guy that played Mr. Eko from Lost.
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Just out of curiosity, has Wakanda kept its wealth for itself or for Africa as a whole?

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@mrmisanthrope: if i may step in a bit, i think that what he's mad about is that unlike Fury, Panther is identified by his race. he is the king of an African village, He's proud of that and if you take away that, then really you're destroying the whole character, i mean if you make him another race then really, who is he? T'challa the plumber from Queens?" unlike Fury, who is defined not by his race, or background, but by his actions, he's the leader of SHIELD no matter what color he is although i think the reason they used Ultimate Fury in the movie is because he's more interesting, he has a attitude and sarcastic wit to him, while the 616 fury is just the typical tough as nails military leader. as for wasp, i have NO idea why they made the ultimate one Asian, nor why they made Collosus gay, although since it's an alternate universe, it's not too surprising, they're SUPPOSED to be different, and as for the Dc cast you mentioned, you're kinda comparing apples to oranges, its not like Dc made the ORIGINAL characters different races, these are like the second or third people to have the names, the black Firestorm is a whole other character, Jason, than the white one (Ronnie) same with the Question, the original died and was replaced by a woman, Aqualad (he's an entirely new character) and Blue Beetle
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ugh..i have to admit, i'm not a black panther fan at all...

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Djimon Hounsou   has been the voice of Black panther but his looks old. T-challa is young so maybe Adewale.

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The current BP look is too recent and more Daredevil's stichk. I say use the original witha few tweaks if need be. You've got the potential for awesome stunts, beautiful scenery and possible a tech edge as well. Plus it briadens the audience's perspective of superheroes as opposed to just Spider-Man and Wolverine

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OK, my idea follows along what the Avengers cartoon set up.
The films starts with  T'Challa  as the prince, his father is the current King and the current Black Panther.  Their empire is mighty, and peaceful.  But then tragedy strikes when T'challa's father is assassinated by the killer  Klaw .  His goal is to get the Vibranium.  Now T'challa is thrust into the role of King and the role of the empire's greatest protector, the Black Panther.  T'Challa, while he has trained for this moment his whole life, finds its different when the time actually comes.  But in the end T'Challa is able to stop Klaw.
 Sequel, the Man-Ape, sees the regine change in Wakanda as his chance to strike and toppled their mighty empire.  But T'Challa isn't so easily overthrown.  While the first film set everything up, who is who and what is Vibranium and Wakanda, the second film delves into the mythology of the Black Panther.
I would leave Storm out of the films, because I think she has had enough screen time in the X-men movies.  But I would leave it open to be part of the Avengers universe, have a cameo by Fury or something.

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Dijimon ftw, he should play Tchalla
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 David Oyelowo a british actor, great talent only issue is height, he like dijimon is kinda short . Morris Chesnut has a great look but I don't know if he can sell  it.  I think 
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbajewould be great but does he have the cross over appeal. 

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@mrmisanthrope said:
" @JonesDeini:  The problem with your reply is that everything you apply to the characters you don't mind having their race swapped, your ignore those same reasons when applied to the Black Panther.  His movie would take place in a different universe too, maybe Wakanda in the movie universe is like South Africa, so he's white. Oh, that you don't approve of? Hypocrite.  Nick Fury in 616 is the kind of character who bursts through a wall shirtless on a hovercycle which he's steering with his hips because his hands are too busy firing laser pistols, while he's smoking a cigar. Ult. Fury is literally just Samuel L. Jackson with an eye patch. It's cheap, it's exploitive, frankly it's offensive. Ult. Fury does nothing, yet literally declares himself better than God.  As for the other examples you gave, yes I took issue with Bucky taking over Cap's mantle. I still think that was a stupid decision, and very "Alex Ross" and 90's. And yes anyone but Bruce being Batman bothers me, and yes Kyle shouldn't be the main Lantern. I like Wally, but then I've been upset about the Flash franchise since they got rid of the Impulse identity.  All the other race swaps are frankly offensive. Are you not insulted by the fact that DC is essentially saying "The only way the audience will accept non-white characters is if they're taking over someone else's character"? To begin with that's not true.  And seriously, telling me to get with the times? Get over yourself, I'm mixed race. Sounds like you're a bit behind the times actually, stuck somewhere around the 70's, deeply entrenched in blacksploitation. "
There you go with that pet word of yours. At what point did I ignore them? I said I explicitly have an issue with Heimdall being black (as well as the Asian guy playing the member of the Warrior's Three), and I have an Issue with Tom Hardy playing a Latin American character. This is consistent with me saying I'd have an Issue with Brad Pitt playing Black Panther. Now the Black Panther film you described in your hypothetical situation is something I wouldn't see, because it doesn't properly reflect the source material. That's the same reason I'm not going to see Thor or why I didn't enjoy the X-Men Movies or Origins. You keep calling me a hypocrite, yet I fail to see how I'm a hypocrite based upon my statements. I previously stated that If ethnicity is essential to a character and there is no cannon precedent for a version of said character's ethnicity to be altered in other mediums then I do have an issue with that being changed (just like any other essential factor of a character). Having Wolverine be black would be equally as offensive to me as having a film in which wolverine had no claws or no healing factor. That being said, T'Challa meets the criteria I stated above. His ethnicity is essential to his origin, and there would be no precedent in cannon for changing Wakanda into a country similar to South Africa so, yeah, on those grounds I'd have an issue with that. Just like I'd have an issue with Spider-Man being black and living in Harlem.   
 
As Far as ultimate Nick Fury goes, to each his own. I think he's a dope character, though not as admittedly as dope as 616 Fury, but really, who is? He's had more time to do more awesome. 
 
LMAO "Alex Ross", 90's. Well played, sir. Indeed Bruce is the only true Batman, agreed. I found/find Kyle to be a more interesting character than Hal. Hal's only back due to Johns being partial to him.  
 
As far as DC's other race swaps go,  I never looked at them like that. Interesting point of view. You've got me wondering why they didn't choose to diversify with whole new characters rather than legacies. I mean, I see the logic of their choice, but why not put some strong writers on some of the Milestone characters like Statik or ICON? 
 
LOL @ Me being entrenched in 70's Blacksploitation. Guess I'm guilty, I did rather enjoy Black Dynamite. I find it infinitely amusing that you allege that I'm behind the times, yet you're the one who's so intensely fixated on "race" an antiquated social construct.
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 Kirk Jones  the guy who played Blade on TV   Djimon Honsou  or
Idris Elba are the guys I would pick  as the Black Panther 

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Djimon Hounsou all the way! He is a great actor and a native African.

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*returns*
I don't know how they'll approach Wakanda. Because a super secret undiscovered country of super high-tech people out in Africa (in a world tha's apparently WAY behind them in terms of said technology) is kinda pushing it, in terms of suspension of disbelief when it comes to a movie audience.  
  
Someone mentioned Zamunda from "Coming to America", that'd probably be the way they could go... just not as zany, and a bit more high-tech.  
 
As for villains, they'd probably go with Killmonger instead of Klaw... or maybe both :P

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  watch out it does get graphic.

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Djimon Honsou is kind of old honestly....T'Challa for this first film should be closer to his twenties, he was outta college when he took the throne right? He's a young king, not an old one. Though i do agree they should pack this movie with as many African-American powerhouses as  possible. BP has a rich history and should lend itself to a movie pretty well. I mean look at the recent storylines

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 If you can do Thor, you can do Black Panther!!! If anything, it should be easier since it would be building on plot and visual elements from movies like Thor, Daredevil, Spider-Man and to a lesser degree, Iron Man. 
 
But if I where to do it, I would handle it mostly in Wakanda with some references to the outside world and end the movie with T’challa’s banishment from his kingdom. That would be a way for you to bring him into the Marvel live action film universe. Thus allowing him to be introduced eventually into The Avengers and allow you to move into a sequel that could involve other Marvel characters (not too many and no new ones) having him have to sneak back into Wakanda to save it from some kinda catastrophe. 
 
Boom!!! That gives you two movies and a part of a third. Hell, you can even throw in some Captain America elements like in the Huddlen (sp) comics or even the Hulk who is searching for a cure. In the end, there are sooo many ways things can be gone about. As long as it’s done in a way that still emphasizes to Black Panther unlike Iron Man 2. But that depends on a STRONG first showing emphasizing the character of T’challa and establishing Wakanda.

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@JonesDeini:  The problem with your reply is that everything you apply to the characters you don't mind having their race swapped, your ignore those same reasons when applied to the Black Panther.
 
His movie would take place in a different universe too, maybe Wakanda in the movie universe is like South Africa, so he's white. Oh, that you don't approve of? Hypocrite.
 
Nick Fury in 616 is the kind of character who bursts through a wall shirtless on a hovercycle which he's steering with his hips because his hands are too busy firing laser pistols, while he's smoking a cigar. Ult. Fury is literally just Samuel L. Jackson with an eye patch. It's cheap, it's exploitive, frankly it's offensive. Ult. Fury does nothing, yet literally declares himself better than God.
 
As for the other examples you gave, yes I took issue with Bucky taking over Cap's mantle. I still think that was a stupid decision, and very "Alex Ross" and 90's. And yes anyone but Bruce being Batman bothers me, and yes Kyle shouldn't be the main Lantern. I like Wally, but then I've been upset about the Flash franchise since they got rid of the Impulse identity.
 
All the other race swaps are frankly offensive. Are you not insulted by the fact that DC is essentially saying "The only way the audience will accept non-white characters is if they're taking over someone else's character"? To begin with that's not true.
 
And seriously, telling me to get with the times? Get over yourself, I'm mixed race. Sounds like you're a bit behind the times actually, stuck somewhere around the 70's, deeply entrenched in blacksploitation.