GREEN ARROW Gets a New Creative Team in October

DC must be trying to kill themselves this week. This, ww getting a new creatve team, deathstroke getting another series when he was already canceled and 2 new bat books that both sound horrible.

@jonny_anonymous: Because 20~ is the point where shit gets canceled. I was using another great title that was canceled due to sales as an example.

Them changing creative teams to get more sales is actually better for fans of the character so they'll get to at least see him a little longer. If it keeps decreasing - as said - it won't reach issue 50.

What's Scarlet Spider got to do with it?

I only picked this title up because I'm a fan of Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino. So is it wrong if I drop the book because they are leaving?

Yeah. I mean, I'm reading it, and I love it, so Lemire leaving is a shame, but I'm not gonna nerdrage over it and shun DC and the title, it was bound to happen eventually, who knows, maybe the new team will be good too, only one way to find out.

@jonny_anonymous: last month was 23,475

Scarlet Spider's last issue was 21,627 and was canceled do to low sales.

It's not selling gangbuster but it's not that bad.

That response is irrational, truly.

What makes any genre of story better in a novel than on a comic-book page?

Do words on a page by themselves somehow magically make a story any better than it intrinsically is? The idea that the comic medium is any less suited to storytelling than prose or cinema is nonsense.

I'm so sad right now

@squalleon: This seems pretty narrow-minded.

@netshyster:

I already read Invincible. But I have to say I haven't checked the other stuff.

And I will pick up Higgin's COWL because there is some good hype surrounding it.

This is completely subjective. If you read, you will see that I said again and again that this is my opinion and I prefer that. It was never meant as a general statement or fact.

Believing that other genres fit other mediums more, which isn't true. You can do anything well with any medium.

BB

Get ready to cry.

I already read Invincible. But I have to say I haven't checked the other stuff.

They have one issue to impress me with.

@billy_batson: Why? Because I prefer other mediums to comics? And really I don't get why you find it so weird to begin with?

If DC are starting to frustrate you there's superhero stuff at Image comics and I think Dark horse too if I'm remembering correctly. There's:

Invincible (Image) (really good, I'm reading it myself and recommend it highly if you're not already reading it.)

The Bounce (Image)

Ghost (Dark Horse)

There's more but I'm not too big on superheroes myself so I don't know too many.

Saga is silly.

I'm gonna miss them on this book.

Believing this. Such a shame.

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I have the first volume. I haven't finished it yet but I plan to. My exams and comicvine have taken me way back in terms of catching up and reading :P

YtLM is great, i truly enjoyed it. I don't know when I enjoyed it more, when I read it in issues or all together :-P
I have literally years to re-read Watchmen, I may have to re-read it just for a reminder one day.
Also which JLA run are you reading?

@squalleon:

If you aren't reading Saga you should be. If you like sci-fi, romance, great dialogue and beautiful art, then Saga is for you.

@squalleon:

Well I guess I'll finish Y the last man, ex machina, watchmen and JLA now then. DC is very close to alienating me totally

@netshyster: Also I read other genres (mostly Comedy and Sci-fi) but super-heroes completely dominate my pull list.

Even if they didn't change teams, it would have been canceled before issue 50. And that's probably a generous estimate.

Companies don't do these things for charity yanno.

Not really. Super-heroes are the only true advantage comics have over other mediums. So it is pretty logical for me to go get my fix on comics rather than wait years for movies or tolerate mediocre shows.

I can find a mystery,spy, action story everywhere. And some other mediums are actually more fitting for those genres than comics (at least I believe so). So no reason for me to go find a mystery, horror comic, when a book can do it much better. Again that is mine opinion and while good indie comics exist, i just prefer other forms more.

@redwingx: Arrow is an entertaining show with good enough writing (at best). The dialog is the show's biggest weakness. I enjoyed the second season, but not the first season. None of it really compares to what Lemire was doing.

True speak. It is sad though that not many are buying GA.

Squalleon, really?

Reading comics for superheroes only is a ridiculous crime, shame on you.

Funniest thing I have heard all day :)

@g_man: Call me a conspirasist but I don't buy it :P Everything is too coincidental and because of Lemire's previous statements. I think that is just Lemire playing by DC's rules because he isn't a big enough name to make a stand like Andy Diggle.
But thats because I have lost faith in DC and every time I invest on a title, something happens and a big premature change comes.

Now will I give this a shot, yes, Do I believe it will be good, no but thats because Kreisberg has already worked on Ollie and I was dissapointed.

They only thing that's surprising is that they aren't canceling the book - which I thought was going to happen.

Not saying I like the change, but you can't exactly blame them for trying to increase sales. No body is buying Green Arrow as is.

But at least all 30 of us have our self righteous hatred

Well, seeing as comic books don't require acting, I think the comic won't include your biggest complaint ;)

Again?!!!......

Lmfao! Yeah because Arrow isn't a horrible TV show with horrible acting and horrible actors?! I'm not even a huge Green Arrow fan but I love Lemire's and Sorrentino's run on the book it's been fantastic and honestly one of the best DC books out. Yeah use creators form the Arrow show because that'll work out well.

@redwingx: The writingin Arrow is deplorable.

That's very different from when he said he had another years worth of stories planned.

Why is everyone going mad? Arrow is excellent show with great writing.

I like what they have to say about Ollie. At the same time, why isn't their show about that version of Ollie? Lemire made this my favorite DC book. I'm going to be sad to see him leave it. First Azzarello leaves Wonder Woman, not this? Damn you

They have Bob Harras for editor-in-chief I think we all see the problem right there.

Anyway I may not give DC 70$ a month but even the ones I give will only be spent better.

With Wonder Woman ending, Green Arrow ending, Superman Unchained ending and not caring about Future's End month, I will save a lot money for better use.

On a side note... Everyone should check out Federal Bureau of Physics by Vertigo.

@squalleon:

I feel your pain. DC needs new leadership. Plain and simple. They need people who actually give a damn about Comic readers in charge. People that actually care about quality and art. One more move like this from DC and I drop everything with their name on it. I'm only one guy but I'll keep my $70 a month and give it to Valiant or Image.

@johnny_blaze: Have you even been reading Green Arrow? They have just replaced one of the best creative teams he's had and one of the best books DC is putting out with a team who's past Green Arrow work was pretty crappy at best.

That's a shame. I really only started reading the book after I heard how great a job Lemire and Sorrentino were doing. I'm not a huge fan of Ollie or his philosophies so I doubt I will stick around with the book after they leave. Might jump back on if the new creative team has as good of reviews as Lemire/Sorrentino are getting now.

@longbowhunter:

Read post #53. That's how I'd respond.

Coming soon from DC: Robe Liefield(A) and Tony Daniels(W) on Batman!

@pperspectiveandreality:

For me the worst part is that I read comics for the superheroes, its not only that I don't like the medium but superheroes were, are and probably will be the reason I read comics, they are by far my favorite genre. So when a talented writer leaves DC or Marvel (except of MK i don't read marvel these days), it is twice a hit for me :(

And with the quality titles becaming more and more rare, I see myself slowly getting away from comics.

@pperspectiveandreality: @paul2814: Lemire said it was his choice to leave the book. The original LA Times article states that Sokolowski and Kreisberg approached DC about taking over the series. Now you can believe this was a serendipitous coincidence or Lemire and Sorrentino were squeezed out of the equation.