GREEN ARROW Gets a New Creative Team in October

@jonny_anonymous: last month was 23,475

Scarlet Spider's last issue was 21,627 and was canceled do to low sales.

Yeah. I mean, I'm reading it, and I love it, so Lemire leaving is a shame, but I'm not gonna nerdrage over it and shun DC and the title, it was bound to happen eventually, who knows, maybe the new team will be good too, only one way to find out.

I only picked this title up because I'm a fan of Jeff Lemire and Andrea Sorrentino. So is it wrong if I drop the book because they are leaving?

What's Scarlet Spider got to do with it?

@jonny_anonymous: Because 20~ is the point where shit gets canceled. I was using another great title that was canceled due to sales as an example.

Them changing creative teams to get more sales is actually better for fans of the character so they'll get to at least see him a little longer. If it keeps decreasing - as said - it won't reach issue 50.

DC must be trying to kill themselves this week. This, ww getting a new creatve team, deathstroke getting another series when he was already canceled and 2 new bat books that both sound horrible.

And @billy_batson

My experience with it. I happened to be more captivated when I read a mystery in a novel form,rather than a Tv show.
Again why is it so weird? I prefer a medium to another in terms of a genre as a general rule. I never said that I DON'T read comics because novels are better or something like that. But generally I have more fun in one medium over the other. And its not like, I dispise or don't even try comics that aren't for superheroes. And not all novels are better than comics but generally I happen to like one medium over the other.

@squalleon:

The Morrison Waid and Kelly volume.

Be aware of what you actually said "So no reason for me to go find a mystery, horror comic, when a book can do it much better."

You said books were better than comics not that you preferred them.

I love Morrison's run. Pretty much what I want from a A-listers super-team. Waid's is more character driven and while it is ok, It isn't as good as Morrison's run as for Kelly I didn't really like the issues I have read to be honest.
In what format are you reading them? DC is releasing some great tpbs, they have finished Morrison's run and hey are about to enter Waid's.

Frank Miller will come back and do a new story arc where Batman has to have sex with all the hookers of Gotham and goes on a murdering rampage, if time allows he'll kidnap a kid and beat him into being the next Robin, then DC will bring back Rob Liefeld to do art for Justice League and Superman will have fifty pouches so he can carry..... I don't know, super stuff.

So none of that is really happening but at this moment if it did I wouldn't be surprised.

Utter bullshit!!! Nest book at DC by far...BY FAR!!!!!!

@jonny_anonymous: @jonny_anonymous: Ummm yeah.....I don't know if you're trying to be funny but yes I have been reading Green Arrow since #0. But the problems with some of you fans is that you guys judge way too quickly. At least try it out first before bashing something, it's upsetting.

Ehhhhh, I'm just worry about if the new team can deliver or can top over Jeff and Andrea.

There is other ways to keep a title afloat than to replace the critically acclaimed creative team with one that has a proven track record of shite writing on GA.

@squalleon:

TPB. I actually read the first arc of Morrisons and then skipped ahead to the second arc of Waids (logical isn't it?) and I must say I enjoyed Waids more (the arc about the story book magic lady....where fairy tales came to life) likely because the writing, IMO, was fantastic and the art was utterly beautiful. I found the white Martian arc to be good, not great. I found a decent amount of potholes that took me out of the story and Howard porters art is awful IMO. Making the vast majority of Morrisons run terribly tiresome to look at. Let us not forget comics are a visual medium so art is just as, if not more, important than writing. I've only peaked at Kelly's though (a few digital issues of that) and it looks okay.

True, I didn't put it correctly. I give you that I did preceded it with "in my opinion" and followed with "I prefer other mediums more" though. But it was the generallity I was talking abou and from our next statements I think everything is clear now?

Morrison became better and better down the line but its on his own I guess. I personally have no problems with Porter's art. I actually liked it. My only problem was the dark colors. And yeah Hitch's art was great and I agree that some people underestimate the power of the art in a comic. I am sure ASB&R or Superman:For Tomorrow wouldn't sell nearly that much or be as appealing to some if it wasn't for Lee.

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WTF.

I wake up and hear this news? -_-

@cheesesticks: This is a huge bummer and I'm quite disappointed about this change in the creative team. I can tell by your picture that you're a big fan of the Lemire/Sorrentino run. I do feel I should inform you that Lemire and Sorrentino will be creating the Green Arrow Futures End one-shot, as solicited by DC Comics. This does mean that there are two more issues before the new creative team comes in. So we have that going for us, which is nice.

It was fun while it lasted..

Yeah, it's clear

@netshyster: It was a fun debate though :P

Well, this is dumb.

But why Kreisberg? He has written GA before and it wasn't impressive. Why would they thing he will bring the Arrow audience in, when the Arrow comic got cancelled.

@squalleon: Yeah, It was.

This is f*cking bullsh*t

Oh look, DC fans complaining about something without even giving it a chance. Don't see that on every article talking about DC trying something new -_-

Kreisberg has already written Ollie before and it wasn't remotely interesting. So giving up a quality comic for something of at least questionable quality isn' the best bargain.

I didn't count the Future Ends issue, because an event ties-in is usually of lesser quality than a normal issue since the editorial are more into it.

If only DC knew what the fans really think.

So Jeff Lemire & Andrea Sorrentino's run is ending? Man this sucks, I just read last months issue the other night. I love their run on Green Arrow. I haven't read a whole lot of Green Arrow prior to the New 52 just Quiver & Longbow Hunters, but Man I love their run on Green Arrow. Definitely one of my favorite runs of the New 52.

Man if people are upset about this creative team leaving a book, I hate to see what happens when a certain creative team from a certain best selling book decide to end their run.

This is an everyday thing. Nothing new. DC has some very fake fans.

@saoakden: That creative team will probably leave on their own terms after having told the stories they want to tell. So people will be sad but they won't be as angry.

Oh don't pretend Marvel fans don't do the same thing. Don't pin this on DC fans; comic fans do this all the time.

@squalleon: True.

I didn't say other comic fans don't do this. I'm just saying that some of these so called fans are always crying about how DC doesn't care about them and blah blah blah. Same whining different article.

DC, why would you do that to Green Arrow?

Both Marvel and DC have to accept the harsh truth...

TV/Movie audience is a different one...and they are not gonna get more readers this way...

The only thing they accomplish by doing this is pissing me off....

A crap creative team is replacing a critically acclaimed creative team and reverting the book back to the way it's always been, yeah lot's to be excited about here.....

Green Arrow was the first comic book I ever bought, but I stopped reading it after issue 22. I didn't like it anymore.

You haven't read their first issue, you don't know how it will be. If you read the first issue and it's bad, complain all you want.

There past run of Green Arrow was crap and this one isn't going to be any difrent and we already know the art isn't anywhere near as good and the book will be getting rid of the tone it currently has.

@squalleon: Didn't say it was weird. Said it was narrow-minded. A good story is a good story. Who cares what medium its in.

Keyword PAST. Keep what was in the past in the past. Like I said, if the first issue is horrible then complain all you want.

If we were keeping the past in the past then we wouldn't be reverting back to the Green Arrow of old

I'm done with DC and Marvel. I mean it this time for real. You refuse to give anyone long runs. Strictly Image and independents for me. Man this sucks. I loved that Green Arrow book.

Not me. My point was (follow the rest of the debate to the end for more details), that I generally prefer one medium to another depending on the genre. Because, due to my experience I happened to be more satisfied with how a medium can showcase a certain genre over another medium, of course there are exceptions but I think you get what I mean. Again see my previous posts for more details.

@jonny_anonymous: You know what I'm talking about. Keep the past in the past as in just because they didn't do very well in the past doesn't mean they won't do good now.

You do not know how hard that pouches line made me laugh. I actually approve of it, I would like to see what Superman can keep in there.