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'Gotham' TV Show to Include Popular Characters

A Fox executive says quite a few familiar faces will appear and even names a few.

James Gordon's show on Fox is still some time away, but Kevin Reilly, the Fox Entertainment Chaiman, has released some very interesting bits of info during a press tour. We know the show will revolve around James Gordon's life before Bruce Wayne becomes Batman, but Reilly said the show will not include "a bunch of characters you've never heard of." Instead, he says we'll see "all the characters you know, Bruce Wayne, the Penguin, all of them. It's Gotham teetering on the edge, and we see what makes these characters become who they are, [like] Catwoman. It's an operatic soap that has a slightly larger-than-life quality to it."

Reilly also teased we'll see Wayne put on the cowl at "the end of the series." Gotham will "staff up" in February and go "into script right after that." The Mentalist's Bruno Heller will serve as the executive producer.

Viners, are you stoked for Gotham?

Source: HitFix

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Posted by MuyJingo

I really wish we could have an HBO show chronicling Bruce's training around the world instead.

But cautiously optimistic for this.

Edited by Battle_Forum_Junkie

I had no idea they where even planning a Gotham TV series!

Posted by PunyParker

@k4tzm4n: You beat me to it!!
Wanted to post it myself... :)

Also..


that leads to Batman putting on cape in final episode of series

YES!!!!!

Edited by AllStarSuperman

I already like this more then agents of shield....

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Edited by Israel28

Fantastic News!

Posted by ImTheDamnBatman

Not particulary looking forward to it. It'll probably flop like AOS to be honest.

Edited by MaccyD

This really sounds like the Batman version of Smallville...

Posted by dondave
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Posted by Master_Thief

@k4tzm4n:

You beat me to it!!

Wanted to post it myself... :)

Also..

that leads to Batman putting on cape in final episode of series

YES!!!!!

Hopefully this show won't get canceled

Posted by Mxyzptlk_CV

Great news....I have high hopes for this...I just wish it wasn't on FOX...

Posted by NightFang
Edited by Ostyo

Nice, Fox has the potenial for a major hit here.

Edited by ips

it's a Batman version of Smallville. great. :P let's hope they do a better job than Smallville did. :/

Edited by GeekBait

This is going to be awesome.

Edited by Nahuel

Wow... Hope is a quality show.

I love the Batman mythos, so I hope they deliver a really quality series and that Geoff Johns keeps his hands OFF THIS SHOW!!

Edited by batshrine
@muyjingo said:

I really wish we could have an HBO show chronicling Bruce's training around the world instead.

But cautiously optimistic for this.

To be honest, I am excited for another Batman tv show. But I would so much rather see Bruce train around the world and build up to Batman, oh so slowly. Its such an interesting story that has hardly been fleshed out. The journey to becoming the bat....

Edited by VoodooPenguin

Knowing Fox, they will cancel this show when it just starts to hit its prime.

Edited by Farkam

@geekbait said:

This is going to be awesome.

I hope so.

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Edited by LyraFay

Um not sure....Okay origins of some of the characters okay.

Edited by Dr_Harlequin

No Harley, no watchie.

>:|

Posted by flazam

Not particulary looking forward to it. It'll probably flop like AOS to be honest.

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

I had no idea they where even planning a Gotham TV series!

it was announced months ago! How could you nottttttttttttt!?!?!?

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Posted by SynCig

I'm really excited for this but I really hope they don't go overboard with Batman's villains. They should be a reaction to Batman, not the other way around. That is one of my favorite aspects of Batman and his rogues that I think they may completely ignore here. It makes sense for certain characters, like the Penguin, but not for characters like Joker or Riddler to be operating before Batman.

Edited by IDontLikeBirds

Rather interested in this and glad it's not focused on Bruce/Batman and focuses on Gotham in general. I love that last tidbit that the series will end with Bruce becoming Batman, already showing they have a direction for the series to take and they won't let the idea of Batman overshadow everything.

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@punyparker said:

@k4tzm4n:

You beat me to it!!

Wanted to post it myself... :)

Also..

that leads to Batman putting on cape in final episode of series

YES!!!!!

Hopefully this show won't get canceled

Wow......that's a cheery note....

@flazam said:

@imthedamnbatman said:

Not particulary looking forward to it. It'll probably flop like AOS to be honest.

Or like "Arrow"....oh wait....

@ips said:

it's a Batman version of Smallville. great. :P let's hope they do a better job than Smallville did. :/

No.Gordon is the main protagonist,it isn't about Bruce(totally)

@dondave said:

@allstarsuperman said:

I already like this more then agents of shield....

Everything is better than AoS.

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@battle_forum_junkie said:

I had no idea they where even planning a Gotham TV series!

it was announced months ago! How could you nottttttttttttt!?!?!?

I must have missed it.

Edited by Mercy_

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really really hope that they bring in characters like Renee Montoya and Maggie Sawyer, too.

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Edited by Dernman

This could be good but it's a risk.

Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude

From what I'm gathering this is most likely going to have Bruce as a vigilante. As in how he was when he came back to Gotham in Batman Begins BEFORE he truly became Batman and found his symbol of fear. He may not put on a cowl till the end of the series, but nothing says he won't be a vigilante now does it?

Posted by AmazingWebHead

So, if this is pre-Batman, I'm assuming he won't be Commisioner yet. I hope they include Bullock.

Posted by Iron_Turtle
Edited by HexThis

No! WAIT! Marvel has Daredevil on Netflix (the future of TV), DC needs to counter that with an equally adult show on AMC or A&E or something. Putting a gritty crime drama on network TV is a BIG mistake these days because anyone can see real grit in something like "Luthor" or "The Wire" done 10 times better. You can argue "Arrow" is a good case for why I'm wrong (if you think it's actually any good) BUT is "Arrow" better than "Walking Dead" or "Game of Thrones"? Not even a contest. The cable networks have more liberties, they hire actual talent, get all the up and coming writers! HBO or something like that! Actually, a Batman show would be less expensive than either "Walking Dead" or "Game of Thrones" because they could get away with minimal special effects and sets.

Bad, bad, bad idea. They need to be ahead of the game. This is not 2003, "24" and "American Idol" are not there to draw interest. AH! I hope the plan falls through.

Edited by BR_Havoc

It's going to be tough for this show IMO. Just like with Agents people will want to see the big time players not the police force. Plus Fox is known for having unrealistic expectations so if this show stumbles in its first season it will be cancelled.

Edited by Fallschirmjager

Cool, I guess.

But until I see it, its just another cop show.

@hexthis said:

No! WAIT! Marvel has Daredevil on Netflix (the future of TV), DC needs to counter that with an equally adult show on AMC or A&E or something. Putting a gritty crime drama on network TV is a BIG mistake these days because anyone can see real grit in something like "Luthor" or "The Wire" done 10 times better. You can argue "Arrow" is a good case for why I'm wrong (if you think it's actually any good) BUT is "Arrow" better than "Walking Dead" or "Game of Thrones"? Not even a contest. The cable networks have more liberties, they hire actual talent, get all the up and coming writers! HBO or something like that! Actually, a Batman show would be less expensive than either "Walking Dead" or "Game of Thrones" because they could get away with minimal special effects and sets.

Bad, bad, bad idea. They need to be ahead of the game. This is not 2003, "24" and "American Idol" are not there to draw interest. AH! I hope the plan falls through.

Preacher was picked up for AMC before Marvel announced anything on Netflix.

DC also has Constantine, Hourman and Flash before Marvel announced their shows too.

DD is Marvel counter to those announcements.

DC is pretty ahead of the game, actually.

And considering HBO is owned by TimeWarner, I don't know what Game of Thrones is used against them in your argument either.

Edited by DoctorXander

I hope they look to Arkham City for their inspiration for Penguin. He was awesome in that game and if he was done badly it would be terrible.

Posted by LordoftheNorth

ugh..this could be very good or very bad as long as they dont do those poor me childhood origins DC tried to force on us and make them dark like Scarecrows than they show has a chance but i havent heared anything that has me excited at all

Posted by MannEffest

This can go horribly right or horribly wrong. I'm optimistically leaning towards the former! :D

Edited by M1cAL

@maccyd: my thoughts exactly. but i didnt have a problem with Smallville, so i'm good :)

Edited by HexThis


Preacher was picked up for AMC before Marvel announced anything on Netflix.

DC also has Constantine, Hourman and Flash before Marvel announced their shows too.

DD is Marvel counter to those announcements.

DC is pretty ahead of the game, actually.

And considering HBO is owned by TimeWarner, I don't know what Game of Thrones is used against them in your argument either.

Hourman and Constantine are on network television and my whole argument was that DC should avoid it at all costs. Constantine is going to be on NBC which is an absolute trainwreck of a station these days, it's one of the most horribly managed of any major network if not the most horribly managed network. Do you remember their last superhero show? The Cape? And with CW? No offense to "Arrow" fans, won't produce anything any more riveting. Everything is sanitized and censored on network television and something that has such potential as Batman, which can be very dark and twisted, will not meet it's full potential in that environment.

Preacher? That might be good. AMC clearly knows what their doing when it comes to that genre BUT Batman is much more representative of their brand. He should be going where the action is like the Preacher is whom most people won't even identify with DC since he's much lesser known.

My point about Arrow vs Game of Thrones or Walking Dead was basically that both those shows stomp it in a millisecond. Ratings-wise and as far as critical praise goes as well and it has nothing to do with TimeWarner. They own the intellectual property, that's it. When it's handed off to a network who hires producers, writers, and actors- that's when you see a difference creatively.

Posted by GrenadeFlow

I Can't wait for this

Posted by kit07

"In the final episode of the series"

so it's just a big tease then? Batman won't really be in the show?

Edited by Fallschirmjager

@hexthis said:

@fallschirmjager said:

Preacher was picked up for AMC before Marvel announced anything on Netflix.

DC also has Constantine, Hourman and Flash before Marvel announced their shows too.

DD is Marvel counter to those announcements.

DC is pretty ahead of the game, actually.

And considering HBO is owned by TimeWarner, I don't know what Game of Thrones is used against them in your argument either.

Hourman and Constantine are on network television and my whole argument was that DC should avoid it at all costs. Constantine is going to be on NBC which is an absolute trainwreck of a station these days, it's one of the most horribly managed of any major network if not the most horribly managed network. Do you remember their last superhero show? The Cape? And with CW? No offense to "Arrow" fans, won't produce anything any more riveting. Everything is sanitized and censored on network television and something that has such potential as Batman, which can be very dark and twisted, will not meet it's full potential in that environment.

Preacher? That might be good. AMC clearly knows what their doing when it comes to that genre BUT Batman is much more representative of their brand. He should be going where the action is like the Preacher is whom most people won't even identify with DC since he's much lesser known.

My point about Arrow vs Game of Thrones or Walking Dead was basically that both those shows stomp it in a millisecond. Ratings-wise and as far as critical praise goes as well and it has nothing to do with TimeWarner. They own the intellectual property, that's it. When it's handed off to a network who hires producers, writers, and actors- that's when you see a difference creatively.

Its not a Batman show. Its a Gotham PD show. And networks like that have had successful copshows for a while.

Batman will never make an appearance, of that I can assure you. They might strut a little kid called Bruce in during the pilot and make make some vague references to a vigilante but the word Batman will never be used. Not when they can pretty much get instant profits at a theater for a Batman movie

And have you seen Arrow? Because its pretty damn good.

I personally think Walking Dead is vastly overrated. Is it good? Yes. But it does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Game of Thrones like you keep using it either. I don't really care what critics have to say about anything really.

Game of Thrones also happens to be one of the most expensive TV shows of all time. Each episode costs something like 5 million dollars. So to expect that is unrealistic. Its a lot easier to get better talent and writing with that kind of budget.

I also don't really see why you think Netflix is superior. I've seen a couple of their shows. I watched Hemlock Grove last year when I had a free trial and it left much to be desired. Its not like DD is a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination, just because its on Netflix.

So I guess my point is...the Network makes it almost irrelevant. Every TV channel has produced gems and has produced crap. Until we see something...no one can say how its going to be.

Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse

YAY!!!

Edited by ArturoCalaKayVee

Bruce will put on the cape and cowl at the end of the series? How long do they expect this show to go on for if they're already teasing the end of the series. This could last 2 seasons or it could last 10. Something smells fishy.

Other than that...AWESOME SAUCE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by HeraldofGanthet
Edited by ganthet2814

Sounds cool. Could we have less flash backs. Arrow gives me whip lash with all the back and forward in time.

Edited by HexThis

@fallschirmjager said:

Its not a Batman show. Its a Gotham PD show. And networks like that have had successful copshows for a while.

Batman will never make an appearance, of that I can assure you. They might strut a little kid called Bruce in during the pilot and make make some vague references to a vigilante but the word Batman will never be used. Not when they can pretty much get instant profits at a theater for a Batman movie

They said explicitly that they will not put on a show with characters we've never heard of and cited two of the most iconic Batman characters- Catwoman and Penguin. It's a part of the Batman mythos which is familiar to most of the public. Jim Gordon and Catwoman were both featured in Batman movies that amassed hundreds of millions of dollars recently and even before that, people identify both characters as being directly involved with Batman. So Batman doesn't even have to be in it for it to be a show taking place in the massive Batman franchise. He's the thread that ties all of it together. It's a cop show....with Batman's supervillains.

With regards to your remarks about "Game of Thrones" and "Walking Dead", it's not even just critics that make these hits. "Game of Thrones" had upwards of 5 million viewers last year, numbers that skyrocketed as the show got older which doesn't happen very often. Same with "Walking Dead" only it's twice that in the ratings department, more than three times that even for the most recent season premiere which attracted 16.11 viewers. Do ratings determine quality? Not necessarily. Do critics? Not necessarily either. But a marriage between the two seems to indicate a degree of quality to me.

The channel does matter, hugely. Networks can make outrageous revisions to shows and censor them up the wazoo. People are wandering off them when it comes to dramas, almost all cable shows get nominated for Emmys, Golden Globes every year. Comedies? Those do well on network but when it comes to dramas, they're losing out majorly. It's almost pathetic.

Netflix is going to be major. It's caught on like wildfire, people binge on shows on Netflix and they capitalized on it by formatting their own shows to that customer experience. "House of Cards" is a big deal and so is "Orange is the New Black" and they have a total edge on even cable because it's instant gratification. Netflix is flourishing.

Posted by Azrael_Online

I actually liked Smallville, so maybe this show won't be too bad afterall.

Posted by JetiiMitra

Operatic soap? Origins for Joker? eh...

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