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Fox Wins Watchmen Case

Judge rules in favor of Fox over Warner Bros.

Will it ever be here?
It's not a very Merry Christmas for Warner Bros.  Variety reported that a surprise ruling was made in favor of Fox.
A Los Angeles federal judge has ruled that 20th Century Fox owns the distribution rights to "Watchmen," representing a setback for Warner Bros.' plans to release the pic in March.

“Fox owns a copyright interest consisting of, at the very least, the right to distribute the ‘Watchmen’ motion picture,” the ruling said.

Judge Gary Allen Feess issued the surprise ruling Wednesday -- a week after setting a Jan. 20 trial date for Fox's suit -- and indicated he would issue a more detailed ruling soon. Warner spokesman Scott Rowe declined to comment.

I guess we'll have to wait to hear what will result from this.  The movie is finished.  Will Warner Bros. be willing to give up the release of the film after all the money they invested or will they attempt to make a deal with Fox and give them some of the profits?  I still find it surprising that it's come to this at this point.   Looks like Fox played their cards right in waiting until Warners finished production.
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Posted by Flash Is The Best

Man So This Movie May Not Even Come Out!!!!

Posted by bdog

Damn! I really wanted to see this :(

Posted by Kaimera

I was looking forward to it! Knowing WB they won't split the profitsw with Fox.

Posted by NightFang
WTF!!!!
Posted by TwilightThunder

F*ck... That's all i have to say...

Posted by Zero the Hero

sht

Posted by Raia

Wow

Posted by mrenb

That ruined my Christmas.

Posted by FangNthunder

 God, FOX stays ruining comic book movies.

Posted by ArtJoker

unbeleavible

Posted by atmosfear

this is ridiculous

Posted by NiteFly

"I was looking forward to it! Knowing WB they won't split the profitsw with Fox."

If I remember correctly this was never about profits.  I'm pretty sure Fox didn't want a piece of the action, they wanted the project to die.
Posted by Marvel Knight

LOL, Warner Bros was stupid

Posted by King Saturn
Thats Lame As Fu#k  !
Posted by Abnormally Warm Guy

WHAT?! Fox is going to ruin it!

Posted by AtPhantom

Go to hell FOX.

Posted by G-Man

Just a note, Methos has posted this in the boards about the same time I posted it in the news.  I saw there were already a couple comments on his thread so I didn't set this to go the boards.  By the looks of it now, another staff set this story to go to the boards.  Either way, we're all pissed.  Maybe some lone Fox Exec will see one of these threads and help do the right thing.  Maybe not.

Whatever the case, I don't think the movie is completely done for.  Warners will either try to appeal the case (which would delay the March 6 release) or they'll try to work out a deal with Fox (meaning sharing the profits).  I know some have mentioned that Warners wouldn't want to share profits just to spite Fox.  Watchmen had a $120 million budget.  The movie could come close to making that opening weekend.  The movie will definitely be profitable.  I can't see a studio refusing profits, even if they had to share them.  It doesn't seem Fox should get any since they pretty much just sat back and waited until production was finished.  But it does seem they have some rights.

Posted by inferiorego

Last Christmas James Brown died, this year I learn WB gets screwed, BAH HUMBUG.

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Posted by John Valentine
inferiorego said:
"Last Christmas James Brown died, this year I learn WB gets screwed, BAH HUMBUG."

James Brown died in 2006.
Posted by inferiorego
John Valentine said:
"inferiorego said:
"Last Christmas James Brown died, this year I learn WB gets screwed, BAH HUMBUG."

James Brown died in 2006."
That's how traumatic it was, he dies every Christmas
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Posted by John Valentine
inferiorego said:
"John Valentine said:
"inferiorego said:
"Last Christmas James Brown died, this year I learn WB gets screwed, BAH HUMBUG."

James Brown died in 2006."
That's how traumatic it was, he dies every Christmas"

I dreamt about it the night before he died :S.
Edited by Noctis

F*ck Fox they can go blow them selves
F that sh*t they wait till they were done filming to do this sh*t? F*ck them

Posted by Darkchild
Noctis said:
"F*ck Fox they can go blow them selves"
they do with the millions dollors they rack in each day
Posted by Wario88

King Saturn just said it just right.............

Thats Lame As Fu#k  !
Posted by conan2099

This is bad...so bad.

Posted by inferiorego
Darkchild said:
"Noctis said:
"F*ck Fox they can go blow them selves"
they do with the millions dollors they rack in each day"
As said in many other forums... making lots of money does NOT equal quality. X-3.
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Posted by bloodmist

While I accept the fact that Fox has rights to the movie....its so pathetic that they waited till it started looking like it would make a lot of money before the lawsuit. Fox is so lame just becasue they haven't had a good movie in god knows how long. If they cause the date to be pushed back or try to stop its release I will not be paying to see wolverine. I will just buy a ticket to another film....

Posted by King Saturn
John Valentine said:
"inferiorego said:
"Last Christmas James Brown died, this year I learn WB gets screwed, BAH HUMBUG."

James Brown died in 2006."
That was one of the Worst Days Ever... James Brown gave me some of the tightest dancing moves I had ever seen when he was alive
Posted by V
G-Man said:
"
Will it ever be here?
It's not a very Merry Christmas for Warner Bros.  Variety reported that a surprise ruling was made in favor of Fox.
A Los Angeles federal judge has ruled that 20th Century Fox owns the distribution rights to "Watchmen," representing a setback for Warner Bros.' plans to release the pic in March.

“Fox owns a copyright interest consisting of, at the very least, the right to distribute the ‘Watchmen’ motion picture,” the ruling said.

Judge Gary Allen Feess issued the surprise ruling Wednesday -- a week after setting a Jan. 20 trial date for Fox's suit -- and indicated he would issue a more detailed ruling soon. Warner spokesman Scott Rowe declined to comment.

I guess we'll have to wait to hear what will result from this.  The movie is finished.  Will Warner Bros. be willing to give up the release of the film after all the money they invested or will they attempt to make a deal with Fox and give them some of the profits?  I still find it surprising that it's come to this at this point.   Looks like Fox played their cards right in waiting until Warners finished production."
How does FOX own Watchmen? I don't mean to sound ignorant, but I don't quite understand. 
I would think though, from what I understand, that there is no way that WB would relinquish the rights to the film release and take a cut in $.
Posted by Darkchild

They had the rights back in 84 to the Watchman franchise, and then Warner made the movie. Thats the simple nutshell answer

Edited by V

Nevermind I think I understand now. So because FOX obtained the copyright to Watchmen which they never exercised back in 1994, they would still profit from the Warner Brothers produced film, virtually entitling them to profit from a film they did not help create? Why the hell wouldn't Warner look into who own's the RIGHTS to the copyright prior to filming the movie in the first place?

Posted by Darkchild
V said:
"Nevermind I think I understand now. So because FOX obtained the copyright to Watchmen which they never exercised back in 1994, they would still profit from the Warner Brothers produced film, virtually entitling them to profit from a film they did not help create? Why the hell wouldn't Warner look into who own's the RIGHTS to the copyright prior to filming the movie in the first place?"
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time
Posted by John Valentine
Darkchild said:
"V said:
"Nevermind I think I understand now. So because FOX obtained the copyright to Watchmen which they never exercised back in 1994, they would still profit from the Warner Brothers produced film, virtually entitling them to profit from a film they did not help create? Why the hell wouldn't Warner look into who own's the RIGHTS to the copyright prior to filming the movie in the first place?"
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time"
V for Vendetta was good.
Posted by Darkchild
John Valentine said:
"Darkchild said:
"V said:
"Nevermind I think I understand now. So because FOX obtained the copyright to Watchmen which they never exercised back in 1994, they would still profit from the Warner Brothers produced film, virtually entitling them to profit from a film they did not help create? Why the hell wouldn't Warner look into who own's the RIGHTS to the copyright prior to filming the movie in the first place?"
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time"
V for Vendetta was good."
Yeah it was for us, but Before that all of Moores films have been sh!t. LOEG sucked, From Hell was a pile of crap.

And Alan is a very anal man when it comes to his books.
Posted by John Valentine
Darkchild said:
"John Valentine said:
"Darkchild said:
"V said:
"Nevermind I think I understand now. So because FOX obtained the copyright to Watchmen which they never exercised back in 1994, they would still profit from the Warner Brothers produced film, virtually entitling them to profit from a film they did not help create? Why the hell wouldn't Warner look into who own's the RIGHTS to the copyright prior to filming the movie in the first place?"
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time"
V for Vendetta was good."
Yeah it was for us, but Before that all of Moores films have been sh!t. LOEG sucked, From Hell was a pile of crap.

And Alan is a very anal man when it comes to his books."

I agree with you about LOEG, though, I haven't seen From Hell.
In fairness the LOEG books are kinda lame too: V for Vendetta and Watchmen are much better books.
Posted by V
Darkchild said:
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time"
OKay
That still doesn't explain why a major film company like Warner Brothers wouldn't look into the owner of the copyright to WATCHMEN prior to investing millions of dollars. It just seems so...I don't know, dumb, that they would be that...irresponsible about it. They kind of deserve what they are getting for being so lax. 
Posted by Outcast
Darkchild said:
"Yeah it was for us, but Before that all of Moores films have been sh!t. LOEG sucked, From Hell was a pile of crap.

And Alan is a very anal man when it comes to his books."
Actually, i liked From Hell. Never read the comic though so that's probably why.
Posted by V
John Valentine said:

V for Vendetta was good."
Was GREAT you mean :P
Posted by Darkchild
Outcast said:
"Darkchild said:
"Yeah it was for us, but Before that all of Moores films have been sh!t. LOEG sucked, From Hell was a pile of crap.

And Alan is a very anal man when it comes to his books."
Actually, i liked From Hell. Never read the comic though so that's probably why."
the comic was much much better

V said:
"Darkchild said:
yeah for most part

Because Fox has been well silent on what they wanted to do with Watchman because Allan Moores attitutde towards movies of his work. He wanted Watchmen to bne the movie that no one could ever do because the past movie adapts have turned into steaming piles of dog crap.

The movie had been in limbo for a very long time"
OKay
That still doesn't explain why a major film company like Warner Brothers wouldn't look into the owner of the copyright to WATCHMEN prior to investing millions of dollars. It just seems so...I don't know, dumb, that they would be that...irresponsible about it. They kind of deserve what they are getting for being so lax. 
"

yeah i dont get that either. pm Methos he knows more
Posted by Outcast
V said:
"OKay
That still doesn't explain why a major film company like Warner Brothers wouldn't look into the owner of the copyright to WATCHMEN prior to investing millions of dollars. It just seems so...I don't know, dumb, that they would be that...irresponsible about it. They kind of deserve what they are getting for being so lax. 
Well, maybe WB deserves it, but the real problem is that the fans also get stuffed.

Darkchild said:
"the comic was much much better
Hm.. have to look into that..
Posted by King Saturn
Its alright though... cause I am gonna get my own crew together and make my own Watchmen Film... how do you like them apples Fox  !
Posted by V
King Saturn said:
"Its alright though... cause I am gonna get my own crew together and make my own Watchmen Film... how do you like them apples Fox  !
"
They'll make all the profit. Don't waste your time. LOL.
Posted by John Valentine
V said:
"John Valentine said:

V for Vendetta was good."
Was GREAT you mean :P"
I'm watching it now.
Posted by King Saturn
V said:
"King Saturn said:
"Its alright though... cause I am gonna get my own crew together and make my own Watchmen Film... how do you like them apples Fox  !
"
They'll make all the profit. Don't waste your time. LOL."
Naw Sir... I am gonna rename the Film and even some of the Characters... I am gonna get Fox off my ass someway...
Posted by SilverZeo

Oh, this is BS to the max!

Posted by Shatterstar

Someone at WB should leak it if Fox is going to permanently hold it up.

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Posted by Nighthunter

Wasn't there a clause in the contract that Warner Bros could get the rights back or sell them over to another studio if they gave money to Fox and the movie wasn't already in production by Fox? What happened with that?

Posted by V

If they leak it they would not make any profit. Isn't that what the debate is about? 

WB should have done their homework before droppin bank into a movie like that
Posted by Nighthunter

All I'm saying is that there was a clause that WB was going to use on their favor, if I remember right someone mentioned that it was going to be used to argue that the clause lets them pay for the rights any moment if Fox ain't doing a movie of their own

Posted by T.J. Magnum

that trailer got my hopes up.................tear

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