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Five New Developments from JUSTICE LEAGUE #7

Now that the team's story has jumped to the present, that doesn't mean we've seen the last of the revelations.

Month after month, JUSTICE LEAGUE has been setting the stage of the "New 52" universe for the DC characters. It wasn't so much that the series was dictating the direction of all the other books but because it was set five years ago, it was showing us some of the big heroes' early days.

After the first arc, the series has jumped forward to the present. That doesn't mean that the revelations are over. We are still getting some updates to these characters despite the fact that almost all of them have their own regular series. How they appear and interact here might not be exactly as you would expect them to, especially given the fact that they've been together for five years.

If you've read JUSTICE LEAGUE #7, you may have caught all of these points but let's take a closer look at them to think about what they really mean. We won't spoil everything in the issue but there will be some spoilers below.

== TEASER ==

Transportation

During Cyborg's origin,we saw his father analyzing a Mother Box which exploded when he was in the room. He was hit by the blast and bathed in the energies released. He discovered that he could talk to the Mother Boxes and was even able to open and close portals to Apokolips. As speculated, this ability to communicate with the Mother Boxes and the energy he absorbed allows him to open Boom Tubes as well. This gives the team a way to get around rather than rely on some sort of teleportation device.

Alien technology as a form of teleportation might be a stretch but it makes more sense than a human scientist coming up with the technology and only the Justice League being allowed to use it.

The Public (Still) Adores Them

When this series began, superhumans were feared and most likely hated. After Darkseid started attacking and abducting humans, it was up to the Justice League to save the day. This opened their eyes to how much superheroes are needed and should be appreciated. They were truly seen as heroes. They became the new celebrities in the world. No longer would the police chase after them (and shoot at them from helicopters.

It does seem a little odd that they would still be so incredibly excited to see them after five years of them operating as a team. The public usually has fickle tastes. They latch onto something until the next big thing comes along.

Etta Candy

Steve Trevor is still in the picture and has been assigned a new aide. Enter Etta Candy. We've seen a lot of changes since the events of Flashpoint ushered in a "new" universe. There have been lots of changes but somehow when the three timelines were merged together, it changed the race of Etta Candy.

Obviously there is nothing wrong with changing the race. It's just a little confusing how that would actually happen. Pretty much everyone else stayed the same in that regard.

The big question is will we see an actual reason for the change or was it done just to add diversity to the character/universe. Obviously there are certain stories that could be tastefully told concerning race but if the change was made just to make a change...

The Watchtower

Where will the Justice League call home? We've seen the Hall of Justice in the pages of JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL. A team like the Justice League can't and shouldn't necessarily have a public base of operations. That just invites attacks from their enemies.

We don't get to actually see it from the outside but it is mentioned that the Watchtower is "orbiting somewhere above us." This is also a way for the team to stay away from those in the government that are concerned about their status. It also prevents them being constantly hassled to deal with minor problems when they need to focus on large and deadly threats.

Feelings on the Justice League International

Batman seemed on board with the JLI. He encouraged Booster Gold to take the reigns and lead the team. Their first mission didn't go too well and it seems he wasn't exactly thrilled with them. Batman made his thoughts on the team pretty clear. This could possibly open the door to a crossover/clash between the two teams.

There is the possibility that Batman simply wants to give the illusion that the two teams are separate entities. If he continues to support them on the side, it allows him to have some control over them while the government assumes it's the one controlling the team. We'll have to wait and see how an encounter between the two teams plays out.

There was a few other developments here. You'll want to check out the issue to see what else happened.

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Posted by saoakden

Well this seems interesting, I want to read it! Poor JLI, at least we know how Batman feels about it.

Posted by Grim

havent read my issue yet. I think i may be dropping JL though. I mean, it seems like Stormwatch is currently the premier force in the nDCu, which makes it kinda hard for me to get interested in anything the JL does. Its like "obviously its not THAT important if Stormwatch is letting the super-friends over there handle it."

we shall see.

Posted by FoxxFireArt

What's with that dude saying "They're Super Friends" and holding his hands as if giving gang signs. lol

Changing the ethnicity of a character is hardly new. They did it to Nick Fury in the Marvel Ultimate Universe. Though, have they ever done it the other way around?

I've never really signed in to the idea that super heroes would be ostracized. Not with the celebrity and tabloid mentality that I see all the time in magazine covers and reality TV programming. Look at the Kardashians. What is their claim to fame? One made a sex tape then got a TV show, and that somehow earned her thousands of rabid followers and spin off shows. Super heroes actually do stuff to save people.

Posted by Skaddix

Really Stormwatch Premier Team? They just had a traitor, lost 3 members and had to be saved by two new guys who were not even on the team at the time. Hardly, a Premier Superhero Team. The JL was more competent in their first fight then that supposed team was in a fight that was definitely not their first. I mean sure Hal and Bruce may rib each other put Stormwatch was a great deal worse and they pride themselves on being professionals.

But Maybe that is just me.

Posted by TDK_1997

The new issue looks awesome

Posted by zackattack529

Honestly,

i think Geoff should ditch this book, stick to aquaman, and let Peter Tomasi write this book. i think Tomasi has proved he can write team books extremly well. and i like the characters he writes for in his titles. i think he can hit this one out of the park..im just not feeling geoff johns on this title.

who's with me here?? or who is not and why???

Posted by ssejllenrad

JL vs JLI... DC's answer to Avengers vs X-Men. Only better. Because it's not drawn by JRJR... Nyahahahaha! Kidding. :p

Edited by SmoothJammin

Why does Booster always lead the JLI?

Instead he should swap places with Blue Beetle(Kord), who can contribute more to mankind. Only, he'd have to change his name now that I think about it. Booster is tacky as all hell

Edited by Skaddix

@ssejllenrad said:

JL vs JLI... DC's answer to Avengers vs X-Men. Only better. Because it's not drawn by JRJR... Nyahahahaha! Kidding. :p

Well JRJR only drawing the first 5 Issues.

I am thinking JL vs Stormwatch. Maybe we should test these fights in battledome problem is most lacking feats.

Still either way should be fun.

Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg, Flash, Hal Jordan , Superman and Wonder Woman

vs August General, Batwing, Booster Gold, Firehawk, Godiva, Guy Gardner, and OMAC

or

vs Apollo, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor, Jenny Quantum, Martian Manhunter and Midnighter. Hmm Stormwatch needs one more.

Posted by Eyz

Lemme get this straight... So now Etta Candy AND Waller look exactly alike???

I wouldn't ever think it possible, taking into consideration the previous versions of those characters....

Also, a big BOO for this new Etta, who looked chubby and now is yet another slim athletic woman!...

sigh...

Posted by Mrakbarman

i think that the JL needed GL for umbrellas was quite a development too! they found some use for him :)

Posted by Miss_Garrick

Etta! Yay! Have her and Steve be a couple again!!

Posted by virginiaforniquer

ilikI like what's going on so far. One of the few things I'm truly pleased with in the new 52

Posted by GothamRed

If batman was lying in the JLI books than he has earned the title of of biggest douche in the universe

Posted by The Stegman

I'm so happy that Steve Trevor is back into main continuity!

Posted by DarthShap

@Eyz said:

Lemme get this straight... So now Etta Candy AND Waller look exactly alike???

I wouldn't ever think it possible, taking into consideration the previous versions of those characters....

Also, a big BOO for this new Etta, who looked chubby and now is yet another slim athletic woman!...

sigh...

I do not which is worst. Etta Candy, Amanda Waller or...Dr Sivana.

Posted by DarthShap

@The Stegman said:

I'm so happy that Steve Trevor is back into main continuity!

When did he cease to be?

He was in the previous one, married to Etta Candy. And it was good character development for both because Steve is waaayy too bland to be with Diana.

Posted by Shotgun

Why the f*ck does Diana hardly get any lines? Even in the panels that she does show up, everybody else does the talking.

Posted by DarthShap

@SmoothJammin said:

Why does Booster always lead the JLI?

Instead he should swap places with Blue Beetle(Kord), who can contribute more to mankind. Only, he'd have to change his name now that I think about it. Booster is tacky as all hell

And Ted Kord isn't? ^^

That being said, I loved their duo from the Giffen-Dematteis run.

Posted by Sobe Cin

Looking at the cover and wondering- How is Hal Jordan still a member of the team? If this story arc is supposed to be set in the presence and he is right now or at the very least, at the beginning of the Green Lantern book powerless without a ring? How can he still be ring slinging with Justice League, if the only way currently is the Sinestro is deputising him with a ring? Does Jordan have a ring, or is this book really just taking place before everything else again, when it can't because the events Justice League International have occured? SO my main concern, how does Hal Jordan have a depowered ring (according to his own title) and still fighting with the Justice League?

If I have revealed spoilers I apologize, but the continuity is out of whack and we are only 7 months in with the relaunch.

Posted by foxandwall
@GothamRed said:

If batman was lying in the JLI books than he has earned the title of of biggest douche in the universe

I guess he was lying in the JL book, because without his help, the JLI may even cannot survive the first mission. 
Posted by DarthShap

@Sobe Cin said:

Looking at the cover and wondering- How is Hal Jordan still a member of the team? If this story arc is supposed to be set in the presence and he is right now or at the very least, at the beginning of the Green Lantern book powerless without a ring? How can he still be ring slinging with Justice League, if the only way currently is the Sinestro is deputising him with a ring? Does Jordan have a ring, or is this book really just taking place before everything else again, when it can't because the events Justice League International have occured? SO my main concern, how does Hal Jordan have a depowered ring (according to his own title) and still fighting with the Justice League?

If I have revealed spoilers I apologize, but the continuity is out of whack and we are only 7 months in with the relaunch.

Obviously, the writers did not work together enough on this one.

Geoff Johns really should spend more time with...errrr...Geoff Johns.

Posted by Sir Duke

To everyone complaining about Hal having a ring when he's not supposed to, Morrison's JLA run was so good because Superman was blue and made of energy. Oh wait, not. It made it immediately dated, needlessly complicated things, and robbed an iconic run of iconic Superman. Continuity serves the story. If continuity is hindering the story, it should be ignored. Good stories are the ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER.

Edited by DarthShap

@Sir Duke said:

To everyone complaining about Hal having a ring when he's not supposed to, Morrison's JLA run was so good because Superman was blue and made of energy. Oh wait, not. It made it immediately dated, needlessly complicated things, and robbed an iconic run of iconic Superman. Continuity serves the story. If continuity is hindering the story, it should be ignored. Good stories are the ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER.

Is it so difficult to realize that maybe, it became dated in the collections but was not when it was originally published?

Are you saying that it is too difficult for you to put things in perspective and in context?

And are actually comparing Grant Morrison to Geoff Johns? And saying that Johns' arc is the best because he did not respect continuity and Morrison did?

This is absurd. Damn "complicated things"!

Posted by Gambit1024

@DarthShap said:

@Eyz said:

Lemme get this straight... So now Etta Candy AND Waller look exactly alike???

I wouldn't ever think it possible, taking into consideration the previous versions of those characters....

Also, a big BOO for this new Etta, who looked chubby and now is yet another slim athletic woman!...

sigh...

I do not which is worst. Etta Candy, Amanda Waller or...Dr Sivana.

Of those? Waller. That's a change I'll never like and understand.

Posted by DarthShap

@Gambit1024 said:

@DarthShap said:

Of those? Waller. That's a change I'll never like and understand.

I really do not know. Sivana is pretty awful here. To me, it's a tie between those two.

Posted by LordRequiem

Cool developments.

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

I think the party of boom tube transportation technology is the most intriguing. I remember it from the first arc and am actually quite pleased that Victor can still access it as a transportation tool for the league. Awesome stuff I say.

Posted by Danial79

@Sobe Cin said:

SO my main concern, how does Hal Jordan have a depowered ring (according to his own title) and still fighting with the Justice League?

That's a really good point, especially since Johns is writing both.

Posted by The Poet

picking this up today...should be fun :)

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Posted by Bernicky

Speaking of JLI/Booster, I think the book is okay but I want Booster to have own series again :I

Posted by DarthShap

@Bernicky said:

Speaking of JLI/Booster, I think the book is okay but I want Booster to have own series again :I

The thing is in the past he protected the time stream. Before The New 52, DC felt that continuity was something to be proud of and so much so that it protection was sacred hence Booster being its protecor.

Now...not so much.

Posted by MonkeyToe

I like this issue. It is light and, yeah a little campy, but I think campy works for this title. I don't really care about the Green Lantern drama with his ring. He has a ring, but it can only be powered by Sinestro, so maybe the JL adventures happen just before or just after Hal goes on a mission with Sinestro and he still has some juice left in the tank. I don't need the details on how and why for that for me to enjoy this book.

What does bother me is Batman's treatment of the JLI. Like many people have already stated, Batman has been instrumental in the creation of the JLI. Not only that, but the team at least succeeded in their first mission, just as much as the JL did in theirs.

Posted by cagedleo730

Since Johns is writing both Green Lantern and JL, he knows where it all fits. Will he tell us? I was listening to a podcast about people being angry for not knowing the chronological order of Fear Itself, Spider Island and X-Men Schism. Knowing the order beforehand would spoil the surprises in each, such as Collosonaut and Thing becoming a Worthy. If the chronology doesn't make sense after the fact, then it's fair game. As for Etta Candy and Amanda Waller, are people confusing them because they can't tell black people apart? Or are the art styles making them look similar? There'll always be people complaining about diversity know especially since at the time of these character's creation making them non-white was basically non-existant. Could they create new supporting cast. Yes, but why should they to placate the thousands of fans of a minor character? It's the same much ado about nothing when Laurence Fishburne is cast as Perry White or Idris Elba as Heimdall

Posted by DarthShap

@cagedleo730 said:

As for Etta Candy and Amanda Waller, are people confusing them because they can't tell black people apart? Or are the art styles making them look similar?

I think it is called sarcasm. I believe it was used to make fun of the fact that the two went through drastic changes with the New 52 to fit profiles more "classic" or more "acceptable". There is nothing wrong with being a beautiful, thin black woman, it is just that Etta Candy used to be this chubby white woman and Amanda Waller, "a wall".

@MonkeyToe said:

I like this issue. It is light and, yeah a little campy, but I think campy works for this title. I don't really care about the Green Lantern drama with his ring. He has a ring, but it can only be powered by Sinestro, so maybe the JL adventures happen just before or just after Hal goes on a mission with Sinestro and he still has some juice left in the tank. I don't need the details on how and why for that for me to enjoy this book.

I do not really care about the chronology either. I am however concerned with the character development. Where is the Hal Jordan who got over his "addiction" to the ring and stopped being a dick? Where is the grown up character who wanted to focus on his job and relationship with Carol?

Posted by Outside_85

You should add that this is the justice League from Earth-3...it doesnt appear to be connected to anything going on in the rest of the DCnU.

Edited by Or35ti

Nice, I was really hoping Cyborg would be able to create boom tubes to teleport the team. From these panels it sorta seems like the Justice League kind of think of themselves as superior or elite (bashing the JLI, not letting anyone else on the Watchtower)... It all looks like they're kind of mean, tho I haven't read the issue yet so I won't judge.

But will someone please tell me why Wonder Woman is not flying in the second image with Superman, Green Lantern and Cyborg and why she's in Hal's little bubble with the non-fliers Batman, Aquaman and Flash?

Posted by The Average Bear

Well, now they have a dramatic entrance

Posted by notarandomguy

Reading the review first than the issue, is a mistake.... I didn't like the review and I love the book, this is a great issue I don't see what could be wrong with it.

Posted by MonkeyToe

@DarthShap said:

I do not really care about the chronology either. I am however concerned with the character development. Where is the Hal Jordan who got over his "addiction" to the ring and stopped being a dick? Where is the grown up character who wanted to focus on his job and relationship with Carol?

I definitely see the point you are making and I'm not dismissing it. But maybe he considers the threats he faces with the JL as different from the ones he faces one as a GL. JL threats should at least keep him mostly planet side rather than being forced to patrol the universe, which seems to be what kept him away from Carol. There could be a difference there. And like I said, it could be that he is helping the JL when returning from missions that Sinetsro is forcing him to undertake. Might as well do some good on the way back, right? Besides, Carol has also shown the willingness to don the ring when circumstances require it. Maybe the JL is his GL patch. After all, quitting something cold turkey is rarely effective.

As for the Hal that stopped being a dick, that is Carol's Hal, not necessarily the JL's Hal. That may seem like a contradiction, but it really isn't. I think we can all admit that we act a certain way around our significant others than we do around my peers. My wife constantly tells me I am so much meaner around our friends than I am when I am just around her. Maybe his dickish behavior is his defense mechanism between himself and his fellow leaguers.

Posted by DarthShap

@MonkeyToe said:

@DarthShap said:

I do not really care about the chronology either. I am however concerned with the character development. Where is the Hal Jordan who got over his "addiction" to the ring and stopped being a dick? Where is the grown up character who wanted to focus on his job and relationship with Carol?

I definitely see the point you are making and I'm not dismissing it. But maybe he considers the threats he faces with the JL as different from the ones he faces one as a GL. JL threats should at least keep him mostly planet side rather than being forced to patrol the universe, which seems to be what kept him away from Carol. There could be a difference there. And like I said, it could be that he is helping the JL when returning from missions that Sinetsro is forcing him to undertake. Might as well do some good on the way back, right? Besides, Carol has also shown the willingness to don the ring when circumstances require it. Maybe the JL is his GL patch. After all, quitting something cold turkey is rarely effective.

As for the Hal that stopped being a dick, that is Carol's Hal, not necessarily the JL's Hal. That may seem like a contradiction, but it really isn't. I think we can all admit that we act a certain way around our significant others than we do around my peers. My wife constantly tells me I am so much meaner around our friends than I am when I am just around her. Maybe his dickish behavior is his defense mechanism between himself and his fellow leaguers.

You make good points but none of them are addressed in the slightest in the book itself and to me, it is juste trying to make excuses for why Hal is behaving out of character (and by that I mean out who he is currently in his book).

Posted by MonkeyToe

@DarthShap said:

You make good points but none of them are addressed in the slightest in the book itself and to me, it is juste trying to make excuses for why Hal is behaving out of character (and by that I mean out who he is currently in his book).

I understand that you are off-put by the difference. I'm not. But it's just a matter of opinion. I'm not trying to find excuses for Hal in JL because I don't need an excuse to enjoy this comic every month. I enjoy it because I enjoy reading it. I was simply expressing an opinion so that maybe it would help others get past the difference in behavior for Hal in JL from GL.

Also, you have to remember that it is going to be nearly impossible to convey the kind of depth that Hal has in GL in a book that feature 6 other characters. The JL title isn't ABOUT Hal, so every page they have to dedicate to explaining why he is acting the way he is acting or his status as a GL, it's ABOUT the JL and how they are still in the throes of a tumultuous team dynamic and about how the world and the government views the team.

Edited by DarthShap

@MonkeyToe said:

@DarthShap said:

You make good points but none of them are addressed in the slightest in the book itself and to me, it is juste trying to make excuses for why Hal is behaving out of character (and by that I mean out who he is currently in his book).

I understand that you are off-put by the difference. I'm not. But it's just a matter of opinion. I'm not trying to find excuses for Hal in JL because I don't need an excuse to enjoy this comic every month. I enjoy it because I enjoy reading it. I was simply expressing an opinion so that maybe it would help others get past the difference in behavior for Hal in JL from GL.

Also, you have to remember that it is going to be nearly impossible to convey the kind of depth that Hal has in GL in a book that feature 6 other characters. The JL title isn't ABOUT Hal, so every page they have to dedicate to explaining why he is acting the way he is acting or his status as a GL, it's ABOUT the JL and how they are still in the throes of a tumultuous team dynamic and about how the world and the government views the team.

What I meant was that I did not expect it to be addressed because, to me things are way simpler than that. Geoff Johns just believe he needs conflict between the members for his team book and Batman and Hal Jordan are his best pick and he chose to ignore his own character development, and pretty much everything happening in the rest of the CNU.

I am just mentioning it because here, it is very obvious since it is the same writer and also, I do not remember noticing it so much in past JLA titles, in Morrison's JLA in particular (where he chose to include continuity way more because...he is Morrison ^^).

Edited by Mbecks14

Why isn't Etta Candy heavy?? I can get over the race change, there are a surpluss of white red heads in comics anyway. And I'm all about adding diversity to the DCU. But must everyone have a perfect body? They already slimmed down Waller. They want to represent different groups of people? Great! But I think it's unrealistic to have everyone skinny and beautiful.

I know they trimmed Etta down before when she struggled with an eating disorder, but that's a different reason.

I do hope Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor get a thing going again.

Posted by MonkeyToe

@DarthShap said:

What I meant was that I did not expect it to be addressed because, to me things are way simpler than that. Geoff Johns just believe he needs conflict between the members for his team book and Batman and Hal Jordan are his best pick and he chose to ignore his own character development, and pretty much everything happening in the rest of the CNU.

I am just mentioning it because here, it is very obvious since it is the same writer and also, I do not remember noticing it so much in past JLA titles, in Morrison's JLA in particular (where he chose to include continuity way more because...he is Morrison ^^).

Agreed! It definitely keeps me entertained, that's for sure.

Edited by Captain13

@Mbecks14 said:

But must everyone have a perfect body? They already slimmed down Waller. They want to represent different groups of people? Great! But I think it's unrealistic to have everyone skinny and beautiful.

Cyborg is the only ugly person in the DCnU. Sorry, I was just about to send the memo.

Also, I hate Flash and GL in this book. They're depicted as man-children, and as long as their attitudes are the way that they currently are, they shouldn't be on the Justice League. I think the other five would be more effective as a team without those two.

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Posted by The Impersonator

nice!

Posted by blacmindZen

I find comments about any aspect (race, body type) of the love interests of a particular superhero to be asinine. Obviously if major story arcs involve them, then you have reason to gripe, but give it a minute. She only made one instant cup of coffee. I'm guessing it was black. Nick Fury looking like Sam Jackson is not as disturbing as Toby McGuire as Spiderman or Terrence Howard as War Machine. Or Nicholas Cage as a flamepissing skeleton in a less than flame inspiring piss of a movie. A character changing races is not a big deal to me unless it's a flagship character. Wolverine as an Asian Canadian I would have a problem with. But then again his relationship with Yuriko would make a lot more sense. So all that to say, the new 52 is going to go through growing pains AND continuity has been a problem. The problem for most of the posters here is, change is killing you. Just roll with it and allow these writers, most of which haven't disappointed that horribly in the past, to satisfy new and old fans.

Posted by blacmindZen

@Mbecks14: I personally don't mind everyone with the exception of male villains look stumpishly ugly with worts. I like looking at beautiful women. If Gotham City was full of supermodels and the occasional ugly supervillain, fine by me. I still mad they draw Aunt May as a homely GILF. She is obviously hot, but artists are sticking to your realism premise on this one.

Posted by nonfiction91

the biggest development is that geoff johns is lazy and has gained so much expereince he went full circle and became an amatuer again

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