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Five Developments from SUPERMAN #7

With his past being established in ACTION COMICS, we're seeing changes in the current time as well.

Superman has pretty much been established in the current "New 52" universe. We've been seeing his early days in the pages of ACTION COMICS and in JUSTICE LEAGUE. In SUPERMAN, it's been about where he's at today.

Surprisingly, despite the stories focused on his past, there are still developments popping up in the current ones. Some of the revelations deal with what is and is not established now that the "New 52" has updated and tweaked certain aspects of Superman's history and character. With each issue, we're seeing what has carried over from before and is being re-introduced along with events that are completely new to who Superman is.

SUPERMAN #7 offers some more insight into the Man of Steel. Be sure to read that issue as there will be some spoilers below. With all the action that takes place and the set up for a potentially big villain for Superman, you won't want to miss it.

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The Public's Opinion on Superman

We seen the public's adoration for Superman countless times in the past. He's pretty much always been portrayed as the ultimate boy scout. He's been a true hero and everyone loves him for his actions in saving the lives of innocents.

In the pages of JUSTICE LEAGUE #7, we saw that the public does love them but when the action breaks out on the streets, there's more of a differing of opinion. In the aftermath of a battle, we hear the thoughts and opinions of those that witnessed it all. There are many that do adore him but not everyone feels the same. It's refreshing to see that some are still a little skeptical. The argument has come up often whether or not the heroes' presence attracts the super villains. Superman's battle in trying to save others still results in a lot of damage to public property.

STAR Labs Picks Up His Leftovers

STAR Labs has already been established in this new DC Universe. After his battle, Superman waits around for some workers to arrive and take his opponent and technology away. This frees Superman from having to deal with it since most likely there's other lives to save or perhaps personal responsibilitles he needs to take care. It keeps the area safe and secure. Any dangerous technology is taken off the street and STAR Labs has the opportunity to study and contain it. Hopefully everyone working there can be trusted absolutely.

Helspont is Imprisoned on Earth

There's been hints of Helspont's presence in STORMWATCH and GRIFTER and now he's showing up in the pages of SUPERMAN. This major villain from the Wildstorm Universe proved a major threat for the likes of the WildCATS and Mr. Majestic.

Setting Helspont up as a possible Superman villain is a brilliant move and makes the merging of the DCU and Wildstorm Universe that much better. We don't know what this will mean for Majestic but Superman's villains are a mixed bag. Some are great but many fall short. Helspont is exactly the kind of villain that could spice up Superman's rogues gallery.

Clark Kent's Beat at the Daily Planet

We haven't seen a whole lot of the Daily Planet in the "New 52." We know the planet was acquired by Morgan Edge and Galaxy Communications and Lois was promoted in overseeing their television news reporting. Clark refused to be part of that as he did not agree with some of their practices in the past.

Clark is seen working at the Planet (with his actual presence there a surprise to many). It turns out he is now in charge of covering the Superman beat. This most likely was Lois's focus in the past but with her moving up, Perry assigns the next best reporter. Obviously Clark has an edge but feels conflicted in reporting on himself. This is something that's gone both ways in the past. In some tellings of the origin it was Lois that broke the big news on Superman and in others, it was Clark and that's what landed him the job at the Daily Planet.

Superman's Quick Change Has Become Easier

When danger arises, Clark has to jump into action and change into his Superman costume without anyone seeing him. Moving at super-speed is always an option but doing so creates a huge gust of wind. You also have to wonder where he keeps his cape as that's not something you could easily tuck into your pants without it becoming all bunched up.

In ACTION COMICS we saw that Superman obtained Kryptonian armor that synced to his DNA (which is why the S-emblem, a symbol representing the House of El, appearered). Now it looks as if that Kryptonian armor is more than just synced to his DNA. The Kryptonian biotech allows the costume to be safely concealed…within his body?

The other question is what does this mean for his cape? Does he still have his regular cape or is it somehow connected/incorporated into his Kryptonian biotech? We'll have to wait until this is explored further.

That's it for this issue. There is still plenty more to see. You can see that Helspont has some plans in mind for Superman. You'll want to see how it begins to play out. There's also mention of another character that went through some crazy changes before the "New 52." Who knows what might happen to this character now?

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Posted by venomyak

Realy like the costume bit, reminds me of Extremis.

Posted by InnerVenom123

Why bother having the S-shirt under his regular clothes if the armor can just appear?

Edited by DarthShap

I think they are trying way too hard to make him cool and edgy. The underwear, the new technosuit made of nanotechnology, the Wildstorm/Marvel-esque reaction of the people five years in.

Also, I do not understand why they prefer to prioritize original or Wildstorm villains. Maybe Morrison asked DC to let him have his entire classic rogue gallery.

Other than that, it was a decent issue. Dan Jurgens was never the best Superman writer but he gets the job done.

Posted by saoakden

I like what they did with the costume. I haven't read the issue yet but I get the feeling he doesnt do the remove the button shirt to reveal his \S/ anymore. Its still cool that he can just put it on with his mind. Seems more convinent for superheroes. It reminds me of Iron Man since Extremis.

Posted by Phaedrusgr

I can't say I'm thrilled. In general, I like the majority of the changes that came with the New 52. I can't say the same about three main characters though and Supes is one of them.

Posted by buttersdaman000

WHAT THE F#%K!!!! THAT NEW NANOTECH SH!T IS SO LAME!! WORST CHANGE FOR NEW52 SUPERMAN. SUCH AN EFFIN DISGRACE!!

Posted by Deadcool

@buttersdaman000 said:

WHAT THE F#%K!!!! THAT NEW NANOTECH SH!T IS SO LAME!! WORST CHANGE FOR NEW52 SUPERMAN. SUCH AN EFFIN DISGRACE!!

What the hell? Why?

Posted by Lexino

I don't think the armour is in his body or part of it. As you can see, when he rips his shirt out, there's his S emblem on a blue top, this top grows into the armour. In other words, the armour shrinks into the top when he's done. Something like that.

Posted by BoyWander

So Superman's suit is like Ironman's now?

Posted by NightFang

@venomyak said:

Realy like the costume bit, reminds me of Extremis.

Posted by Deadcool
Posted by joshmightbe

Well folks phone booths are a little hard to come by now days

Posted by Novaar

I like it and agree with the sentiment!

I actually really like the biotech suit. I've always been interested in Kal-El as an alien and I think the new 52 makes him feel more like one. It also answers a number of the picky little questions (like what he does with his cape).

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@Deadcool said:

Concerning Superman. I doubt it.

15 years ago, we had that:

...by a guy called...Dan Jurgens who wanted the character to be...cool and edgy.

Posted by Deadcool

@DarthShap said:

Concerning Superman. I doubt it.

15 years ago, we had that... by a guy called...Dan Jurgens who wanted the character to be...cool and edgy.

I am sorry, but what is that supposed to mean?

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@Deadcool said:

@DarthShap said:

Concerning Superman. I doubt it.

15 years ago, we had that... by a guy called...Dan Jurgens who wanted the character to be...cool and edgy.

I am sorry, but what is that supposed to mean?

That writers keep thinking that Superman has a problem, find new solutions to "fix it" (so that he's finally cool and edgy) and that a few months/years later, they realize how lame it actually was.

All Star Superman is arguably the best Superman comic book ever, it is not 15 years old, it was not trying too hard to "make Superman cool" by giving him new armor tech, electric powers or guns, it just understood the character, what makes him great. There is no problem to fix.

Finally, the fact that you chose a picture mentioning "15 years" goes to show how little you seem to know about comics and Superman comics in particular. Do you know a lot of people who miss the 90's comics?

Posted by Deadcool

@DarthShap said:

That writers keep thinking that Superman has a problem, find new solutions to "fix it" (so that he's finally cool and edgy) and that a few months/years later, they realize how lame it actually was.

... Ok, What does edgy mean?

All Star Superman is arguably the best Superman comic book ever, it is not 15 years old, it was not trying too hard to "make Superman cool" by giving him new armor tech, electric powers or guns, it just understood the character, what makes him great.

Funny thing because Grant Morrison is writting this Superman, and he also wrote All-Star Superman.

There is no problem to fix.

All-Star Superman is so perfect because it just has 12 issues, eventually it would be more difficult to write a character that powerful, and the storylines wouldn't be able to keep it up, what they are giving to te character is more defined characteristic than the ones he used to have, if you have an undefined character that would mess the things in the future with other writers trying to explain the mess of his power levels. I love what is happening to Superman, not because is cool or "edgy" (The "Urban Dictionary" is not helpng me to understand what are you trying to say with that word), I like this character because he is not full of crap.

Posted by Deadcool

@DarthShap said:

Finally, the fact that you chose a picture mentioning "15 years" goes to show how little you seem to know about comics and Superman comics in particular. Do you know a lot of people who miss the 90's comics?

...huh? actually I was looking for a "Nostalgia Glasses" picture, the caption has nothing to do with my feelings, I just found that picture in google search.

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the issue wasn't bad. Some intresting development and some of "revelation" discussed in the article I thought were pretty cool. (I am really enjoying the reaction of the masses to the heroes both JL#7 and this issue)

I have definitely enjoyed some Superman stories in the past (All-Star and Red Son are 2 of my favourite stories) but I dunno most of the times I just don't dig solo superman stories. I think he works great in a team setting or in relation to some other character (Batman, Louis etc.)

I think the biggest problem I am having with superman in the new 52 (both Superman and Action Comic) is that the stories are going too slow with respect in getting readers up to speed with who this new version of Superman is. Superman is character that we all know so well, but in the new 52 we don't know to what extend things have changed with him (look at this article as an example, and there are still a ton of unanswered questions), I dunno, I guess its the same dynamic with The Flash and Aquaman books, but I freaking love those books. There is something about this new version of Superman that I just can't put my finger on it.

I guess the terrible first run of Superman didn't help either, Action Comic is good but with Morrison its more about the long term picture so my expectation are different.

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@Deadcool said:

@DarthShap said:

That writers keep thinking that Superman has a problem, find new solutions to "fix it" (so that he's finally cool and edgy) and that a few months/years later, they realize how lame it actually was.

... Ok, What does edgy mean?

All Star Superman is arguably the best Superman comic book ever, it is not 15 years old, it was not trying too hard to "make Superman cool" by giving him new armor tech, electric powers or guns, it just understood the character, what makes him great.

Funny thing because Grant Morrison is writting this Superman, and he also wrote All-Star Superman.

There is no problem to fix.

All-Star Superman is so perfect because it just has 12 issues, eventually it would be more difficult to write a character that powerful, and the storylines wouldn't be able to keep it up, what they are giving to te character is more defined characteristic than the ones he used to have, if you have an undefined character that would mess the things in the future with other writers trying to explain the mess of his power levels. I love what is happening to Superman, not because is cool or "edgy" (The "Urban Dictionary" is not helpng me to understand what are you trying to say with that word), I like this character because he is not full of crap.

"Edgy" basically means new and provocative considering the past. Basically, "It's not your Grandfather's Superman!" and all that 90's EXTREEEEEME BS.

Grant Morrison is writing Action Comics, not Superman. And what Morrison is doing on Action Comics is not gratuitous, it makes sense. He uses the character publication history -the fact that when he was created, he was a new type of character in the medium and and a different personality at that time- as part of the story and as character development.

Five years in however, the reaction he gets does not make much sense and is inconsistent with Justice League 7.

And power levels are not the problem because the villains pretty much adapt to it. No matter the so-called "power level", the hero will struggle but ultimately defeat the villain.

@Deadcool said:

@DarthShap said:

Finally, the fact that you chose a picture mentioning "15 years" goes to show how little you seem to know about comics and Superman comics in particular. Do you know a lot of people who miss the 90's comics?

...huh? actually I was looking for a "Nostalgia Glasses" picture, the caption has nothing to do with my feelings, I just found that picture in google search.

What can I say? You chose the wrong picture then.

Posted by Deadcool

@DarthShap said:

"Edgy" basically means new and provocative considering the past. Basically, "It's not your Grandfather's Superman!" and all that 90's EXTREEEEEME BS.

... I... Think that understand...

Grant Morrison is writing Action Comics, not Superman. And what Morrison is doing on Action Comics is not gratuitous, it makes sense. He uses the character publication history -the fact that when he was created, he was a new type of character in the medium and and a different personality at that time- as part of the story and as character development.

Oh, I see, I am not reading Superman.

Five years in however, the reaction he gets does not make much sense and is inconsistent with Justice League 7.

Different writers that probably don't talk to each other.

And power levels are not the problem because the villains pretty much adapt to it. No matter the so-called "power level", the hero will struggle but ultimately defeat the villain.

Yeah, but you will need way too powerful villains to fight Superman, or a good excuse that at the end it would be just considered PIS. I liked how Lex Luthor defeated Superman in the first issues of Action Comics, both Lex and Superman need some kind of effort to fight each other, and Superman stills powerful and Lex is smart, but not in a retarded "comic" way.

What can I say? You chose the wrong picture then.

Maybe I did.

Posted by DarthShap

@thveej said:

I think the biggest problem I am having with superman in the new 52 (both Superman and Action Comic) is that the stories are going too slow with respect in getting readers up to speed with who this new version of Superman is. Superman is character that we all know so well, but in the new 52 we don't know to what extend things have changed with him (look at this article as an example, and there are still a ton of unanswered questions), I dunno, I guess its the same dynamic with The Flash and Aquaman books, but I freaking love those books. There is something about this new version of Superman that I just can't put my finger on it.

I love Action Comics but it is definitely NOT being written with the so-called "new readers" in mind, otherwise, you would not have time travel and grown up Superman and the Legion in the very first arc. The Legion has one of the most complicated continuity in the DCU, with several reboots and dozens of characters who evolved through the decades, they are not even properly introduced here. And Lightning Lad has a robotic arm.

Posted by ravisher

im not even a marvel fan boy but i know thats ironmans suit

Posted by Eyz

The only thing/change I'm not not personally liking is the costume...the way it pops up...it so silly to have it work that way...Okay, it does make it more "alien," but in such a useless "gimmicky" way...

@DarthShap said:

I think they are trying way too hard to make him cool and edgy. The underwear, the new technosuit made of nanotechnology, the Wildstorm/Marvel-esque reaction of the people five years in.

^That! a thousand times that!!

Posted by azza04

Ehhh Mixed feelings so far. I'm just looking forward to Earth-One volume 2.

Posted by tensor

i like it, even the suit change makes alot more sense

Posted by ColonelRunAway

@DarthShap:

Concerning Superman. I doubt it.

15 years ago, we had that:

...by a guy called...Dan Jurgens who wanted the character to be...cool and edgy.

Sir, applause are in order.

Posted by WildStyle

I'm really surprised DC went for the Extremis suit for Superman. I'm not even that big of a Superman fan and I can see they're trying way too hard.

Posted by SupremeHyperion

tryin a little too hard to make him super-cool. Think he is going to become another bad superman clone character. they should just kill off superman puting an end to him (with the ability to bring him back anytime they want as usual) but give the mantle to another krypton like conner. that way they can do what they want with the superman character and they could even give him a bad a$$ black and red suit.

Posted by pspin

I don't think that they are trying to hard to make him cool, having extrimis- type armor makes a lot more sense then having to find an ally or phone booth every time a villain attacks. The only reason everyone is complaining sis because Iron Man did it first. Since Superman is an alien, having some sort of alien tech is pretty logical and makes sense.

Posted by sinestro_GL

This looks like a job for 'Action Comics' to save the day.

The first arc of Superman wasn't great (to say the least)...hopefully the next few ones get better...but hopefully not too long, as I am considering dropping the Superman title.

Posted by The Mighty Monarch

Helspont isn't 'imprisoned' on Earth, he was imprisoned on the Stormwatch headquarters and now he's FREE.

And the public reaction here actually MAKES SOME GOD DAMN SENSE. The public's reaction in Justice League was a miserable failure of sociology. Not to mention that continuity of any series should no longer be compared to Justice League, because that series now has the MOST disconnections from other series of all the new 52.

Posted by Dynamiteawesome

So will Superman become naked if he is knocked unconscious?

Posted by Outside_85

Well its nice to see that stupid head-wear or head designs still exists in both Marvel and DC...

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Posted by Kal'smahboi
@InnerVenom123 said:

Why bother having the S-shirt under his regular clothes if the armor can just appear?

See, that's why I don't think it's exactly like Extremis. It looks to me more like the armor rearranges itself into the full suit, rather than coming from inside him. 
 
@Dynamiteawesome said:

So will Superman become naked if he is knocked unconscious?

You still have DNA when you're unconscious, buddy.
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@joshmightbe said:

Well folks phone booths are a little hard to come by now days

lol

Posted by The_MVPs

@DarthShap said:

I think they are trying way too hard to make him cool and edgy. The underwear, the new technosuit made of nanotechnology, the Wildstorm/Marvel-esque reaction of the people five years in.

Also, I do not understand why they prefer to prioritize original or Wildstorm villains. Maybe Morrison asked DC to let him have his entire classic rogue gallery.

Other than that, it was a decent issue. Dan Jurgens was never the best Superman writer but he gets the job done.

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Posted by Kuwagata

Is it trying too hard to give him a cell phone? No? Well, in a world of alien super-science and magic, why wouldn't he have other fantastic upgrades?

Jurgens didn't design that suit, but since it's already there, why not do something with it? No way in hell you could wear all that under regular clothes.

And far as as the public goes, it sounds like some expect it to be written as a hive mind. People vary greatly in intelligence and opinions, so whatever the writer has their random citizens say really just fits the context of the particular story.

Posted by HolySerpent

I agree with buttersdaman. I hate the way the custom suddenly appears using nano tech

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Posted by LordRequiem

Helspont as a Supes villain is genius, he needs some who can challenge him in more ways than one. The suit formation reminds me of TRON: Legacy, definately a good thing.

Posted by IronAngelX

So Superman is just able to "think" his costume on now? I remember reading an Actio Comics issue and he put on this white suit that turned into the Superman suit. When did this become a thing? Is this something that started with the New 52? Or am I just not reading something correctly?.

Posted by The Mighty Monarch

@Gambler said:

@DarthShap said:

I think they are trying way too hard to make him cool and edgy. The underwear, the new technosuit made of nanotechnology, the Wildstorm/Marvel-esque reaction of the people five years in.

Also, I do not understand why they prefer to prioritize original or Wildstorm villains. Maybe Morrison asked DC to let him have his entire classic rogue gallery.

Other than that, it was a decent issue. Dan Jurgens was never the best Superman writer but he gets the job done.

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How is the nanotech suit 'edgy?' It's just futuristic / high tech.

How is people reacting like normal human beings 'cool and edgy?' Would you prefer they all act like unrealistic morons like in Justice League?

Posted by DarthShap

@The Mighty Monarch said:

How is the nanotech suit 'edgy?' It's just futuristic / high tech.

How is people reacting like normal human beings 'cool and edgy?' Would you prefer they all act like unrealistic morons like in Justice League?

You misunderstood me. It is the fact that Superman is now a "controversial figure" (sounds like something Michael Cole would say about John Cena ^^) that is supposed to make him so "cool and edgy".

And about the costume, I guess I said it made him look"egdy" because it reminded me of other characters from the mid-80's to late 90's who wore this kind of costumes and were part of this Grim n' Gritty EXTREEEEME movement. In some ways, as a costume that grows on the character by linking itself to its DNA/skin, it is similar to the venom symbiote, the witchblade, the weatherman's interface, Vic Stone's "nanites" in the Technis Imperative, the Ronin's technology etc...

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@DarthShap: Co-Signed

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Posted by The Mighty Monarch

@DarthShap: Except the costume doesn't appear to have a mind of its own. It's just a costume that he can 'turn' on and off. Well, ok, I don't know that for a fact, but I'm pretty confident that's the case.

I don't see him being depicted as 'controversial' just.... people have divided opinions. Which real people do. Perez tried to make Superman 'controversial' for the first six issues, here there's an equal division of people going "Whoo! Superman's the coolest guy ever!" and people going "I'm not sure I trust him." And other people going "Why do we have to go around cleaning up his messes?" in more of a 'thanks for saving us, but do you have to just fly away as soon as the battle's over?'

And I might be a bit jaded because of how terrible the public was depicting in Justice League #7 last week. Where every single person was convinced that the Justice League could fix the economy and bring world peace and balance the national budget. That was so far beyond dumb that I'm so happy to see a more logically varied public opinion.

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@Lexino said:

I don't think the armour is in his body or part of it. As you can see, when he rips his shirt out, there's his S emblem on a blue top, this top grows into the armour. In other words, the armour shrinks into the top when he's done. Something like that.

we can clearly see it coming out of his arms...

And personally I like it. How he puts on a suit is not something that "changes the essence of Superman". They changed his suits and instead of just throwing another "It's Superman...just roll with it" at us they gave an actual reason as to why we can't see his collar or extended sleeves. Don't really think my liking of this character was ever based on how he "suits up"

Posted by drgnx

I like the new suit. He wears it under his cloths, but it makes sense that it can add elements and remove elements (cape, belt, etc...) I'm not sure if it completely disappears, I thought it turned into a t-shirt or something.

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@Kuwagata said:

Jurgens didn't design that suit, but since it's already there, why not do something with it? No way in hell you could wear all that under regular clothes.

@pspin said:

I don't think that they are trying to hard to make him cool, having extrimis- type armor makes a lot more sense then having to find an ally or phone booth every time a villain attacks. The only reason everyone is complaining sis because Iron Man did it first. Since Superman is an alien, having some sort of alien tech is pretty logical and makes sense.

Suspension of disbelief is a big part of comic book. From the get-go, we accept to believe that a pair of glasses can make sure that no one would recognize it.

Morrison and Quitely explained that Clark wears baggy clothes and has a bad posture. Byrne explained that Superman's head was always vibrating so that no one could see his face.

Now those explanations are OK but unnecessary. We were ready to believe that a pair of glasses would do the trick, just like a domino mask protects the identities of the Robins or Green Arrow (and on top of that, the guy also happened to have a rather uncommon beard).

The other thing is if we get a rationale explanation for one of this elements, it needs to stay forever because once a point has been addressed, the suspension of disbelief no longer works. As a result, the writer is kind of like forcing your successors to keep the explanations. But the nanotech is probably not going to stay forever, just like the baggy clothes, the bad posture and the vibrating head and in the end, nothing will have been achieved, except breaking the suspension of disbelief once again.

Posted by Chibi-Iroh

People don't seem to realize that outside of his big comic book fanbase not many people like Superman because he was too much of a boy scout, the red underwear made him look silly, and he is too overpowered plain and simple. In order for Superman's audience to grow and for him to make the transition there have got to be some changes. The removal of those wretched red trunks was a good step in the right direction. Having a a suit that is from Krypton and has some historical ties to his people was also a great step and the way he changes now based on the fact that his suit is an alien material makes sense and its great. The thing that most comic book fans don't seem to understand is that in this day in age comic books aren't doing as well as they use to and the company's cant just pander to us anymore they have to branch out and try to gain more fans and more followers if they want to survive and we should recognize that as fans who want to see our favorite characters survive.

Posted by The Mighty Monarch

@DarthShap said:

@Kuwagata said:

Jurgens didn't design that suit, but since it's already there, why not do something with it? No way in hell you could wear all that under regular clothes.

@pspin said:

I don't think that they are trying to hard to make him cool, having extrimis- type armor makes a lot more sense then having to find an ally or phone booth every time a villain attacks. The only reason everyone is complaining sis because Iron Man did it first. Since Superman is an alien, having some sort of alien tech is pretty logical and makes sense.

Now those explanations are OK but unnecessary. We were ready to believe that a pair of glasses would do the trick, just like a domino mask protects the identities of the Robins or Green Arrow (and on top of that, the guy also happened to have a rather uncommon beard).

No, a lot of us WERE NOT. I know suspension of disbelief is a big part of superhero comics, but that was a point frequently mocked and/or questioned. A lot of us DID NOT believe that a pair of glasses would do the trick, it's as big a joke as saying Aquaman is useless on land; actually bigger since few comic fans would mock Aquaman as bad, but plenty of readers would question the validity of Superman's 'disguise.'

And I also think Byrne's explanation is stupid. Wouldn't Superman get a headache from his head constantly vibrating? Morrison's explanation was much better.

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