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First Look Inside Marvel's SIEGE #1

Seven years in the making?

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Marvel has shared a first look at SIEGE #1.  It will be from the chart-topping team of Brian Michael Bendis and Oliver Coipel.  This is the end of the Marvel Universe as you know it.  What will be the price of victory?  Are you ready for the SIEGE?
 
Marvel says this is the comic book event (yay!) that has been seven years in the making.  Every major Marvel character will get involved in the 'greatest assembly of heroes and villains you've ever seen.'
 
There's also exclusive high quality prints by artists such as Marko Djurdjevic, Simone Bianchi, Billy Tan and more at http://prints.marvel.com.
 
Norman Osborn's endgame is revealed.  Not everyone will survive.  SIEGE #1 is on sale January 6, 2010 with a $3.99 price tag.  Siege: The Cabal is on sale NOW.
 
 
 

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right on, the u-foes kick ass. they should have been in the fantastic four film, nothing against dr. doom. but the guy didn't get his powers from cosmic rays

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correction: Marvel Zombies is even more repetitive... with less poorly written drama and more cornball antics. but give DC time. I'm sure they'll bring back the blackest night zombies whenever interest in their usual good writing dips.

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@Timm: its an event. a world event. by that argument, Marvel zombies is just repetitive too. its not like this is the 6th time DC has used this idea. its the center of 1.
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@Grim said:
" @Timm: gotta say, i feel like ez bake drama is more unmasking a hero to the world or blowing up a school/football stadium. A hero coming back to terrorize the living requires allot more of an understanding for said heroes, with each raised hero causing the drama to be that much more complicated. just the way i see it. "
or that much more repetitive.
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@Timm: gotta say, i feel like ez bake drama is more unmasking a hero to the world or blowing up a school/football stadium. A hero coming back to terrorize the living requires allot more of an understanding for said heroes, with each raised hero causing the drama to be that much more complicated.
just the way i see it.
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@Korg: well i'll give you House of M. Short and very much contained, but also not quite an event.
 But Civil War was all over the place, and secret invasion more so. You got the gist of it in title, but all of it was rather confusing unless you went to the tie ins that explained "that relationship" or "that conversation". I'm not basing the tie in argument off of my own experience by th way. I got most of it. im basing this off of the kids/teenagers i work with and my girlfriend's questions. When people who aren't religious readers get into these events, their lost. and if you have to spend 5 minutes explaining the events leading up, it only gets worse for them. 
 The only DC story i have ever had non-readers confused about is Final Crisis, which people dont really understand unless you explain it kinda backwards timeline wise("this happened becuase of this" instead of "this caused this to happen"). But i always have people asking for further insight on Marvel's events, for which i usually tell them to go ask someone who holds the events in a higher regard.
maybe this is a consistency issue. Maybe if you dont read the DC stories and characters weekly/monthly, you dont get the brunt of these stories. I already really apreciate Siege becuase like i said i can see at least some of the seeds planted in the last few years blossoming. But If you only started reading Titans/GL/ WW and all the rest becuase of the events, you dont get the emotional ties like actual DC readers do. Just like DC readers wouldnt get whats so cool about Siege if they havent read the last 3 events.
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*Groan* /facepalm
 
after reading that whole tirade, Grim actually made me hate BN even more than i did before.
 
the only thing worse than the redundancy of zombies is the dramatic speech ' getting in your head' zombies. just to be fair to DC, Necrosha is ridiculous too. 
  there's nothing i hate more than zombie superheroes or dead superheros who are resurrected as villains (often to avenge their own deaths and endanger others while doing it... ez-bake drama villain)

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@Korg: 
 
You just said every thing I wanted to say.
 
 @Grim: I am not saying you can't have an opinion but after you say it once do you need to continue raining on everyone's parade?
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@Grim said:
@Korg:
fair enough. But lets be real about this. If every event in the last 4 years has been at least 7 issues long, with at least 3 tie in comics you HAVE to read to understand whats going on, isnt it massively likely that this 4 issue event that is actually going to be about espionage and betrayal wont be able to cram it into 4? especially when Marvel has been the worst out of the two at keeping events within their title comics?  not bashing. im gonna enjoy siege like a mofo. just saying... "
I read House of M, Civil War, and Secret Invasion without needing to read any tie-ins to understand them (To be clear, I did read tie-ins, but it was not to gain a better understanding of events in the main title), so we're coming from very different places to begin with. I feel Secret Invasion could have been done in 4-6 issues, so I really see no problem with Siege being 4 issues. Blackest Night is already crawling along, and could clearly have been done in fewer issues. I also disagree about Marvel being the worse of the two at keeping events within their titular comics, especially where BN is concerned.
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@Watch Dog: ok, well i dont.  i like a minority of it. i like the characters, but most of their story/continuity decisions, in my opinion, are very juvenile.
everything i've said is just reasons why i, as a book reading fps playing dork, dont like their stories. i like the things i put my money into to at least SEEM like more than just a ploy to get my money. And mavrel's easy shock value stories just dont. I get that on tv.
 

@Korg:


fair enough. But lets be real about this. If every event in the last 4 years has been at least 7 issues long, with at least 3 tie in comics you HAVE to read to understand whats going on, isnt it massively likely that this 4 issue event that is actually going to be about espionage and betrayal wont be able to cram it into 4? especially when Marvel has been the worst out of the two at keeping events within their title comics?
 not bashing. im gonna enjoy siege like a mofo. just saying...
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@Grim: Any change is better than remaining stagnant. Do I agree with everything Marvel does? No, but I do like a vast majority of it.
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@Watch Dog: sorry. i was just responding to your post with an actual response. 
 i really do want to know your answer to my question up there. Theres no progress of any kind to be made of you and i just keep flaming on each other.
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@Grim said:
" siege is 4 comics. Which means its an insanely short event with too much crammed into each issue"
So you've already read it? Can you spoiler the important bits for me?
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@Grim: congratulations  you've managed to say the same thing yet again.
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@Watch Dog: 
ok, os your saying ist better to make a bunch or radical changes, and then slowly take them all back over the course of 3 years and 4 events, than it is to just plan an event to end with small changes that the company has already prepared to deal with for the long haul? is that what your saying?
 Yes, Siege is going to have an effect on the Marvel U. Its going to undo some of the effects of Civil War. its been almost no time, and just like One More Day, marvel is already taking back half of what they did.
 and if you read what i say instead of skiming and reacting, youll notice i never said BN didnt have as many tie ins. I was responding to someones coment that Siege was only 4 issues long so it would be over faster than BN. I have laready said BN has a billion tie ins, and i explained that it was becuase the BN was a world event, meaning that fans of other characters would love the chance to see their fave characters interact with their risen dead. and if you payed attention (which i know you didnt,its ok), you would also know that the big difference is that you dont need to read ANY of the extra BN tie ins if you dont want to. BN Flash, Batman, WW, REBELS, TITANS, all of them are just for the fans of those respective titles. They actually tie into the main story, but the main story doesnt tie into  them at all. There are no major plot points or twists in them. BN is completely stand alone, with the arguable exception of the GL tites, and there are only two of those a month.
 siege is 4 comics. Which means its an insanely short event with too much crammed into each issue, or you actually need to purchase half of the comics on the checklist, which means your now spending more unless you already buy ALL of those comics.
hopefully, that was all your confused about.
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@Grim: Alright, here is my opinion, you are making statements of opinion and trying to pass them off as fact.  BN has just as many tie ins as Siege if not more. how do I know? because I've bought most of them. BN is a good story but it is just a good story. it will most likely have little to no effect on the DC universe, which in my opinion makes Siege better. also if you are not reading GL you are missing half the story.  You have stated the exact same unfounded opinions in all of your posts, its redundent. so in closing if you nothing new to say move on.
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@Watch Dog: ohh thanks. im so glad you interjected that.
 go get an opinion and then get back to me WD.
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I'm already more interested in Siege than I am in Blackest Night, which I read 5 issues of (and subsequently dropped).

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@Grim: You like DC we git it. Move on and go read BN.
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@jefprice: Marvel has taken the market becuase they went bankrupt.
 As a result of their bad buisness decisions (everything from bad comcic ideas to bad media that they  just tossed monsy into), they had to be bought out by a toy company.
 With the boost, they made Spiderman and X-men. Which rocketed them in non-comics fans media. 
 Then they started flooding the comics stands with comics. There where around 8 X titles and 6 Spiderman titles, as well as everything in the MAX series, the complete Ultamates Line, and all of their normal comics. Marvel didnt become the lead becuase of better story telling. they became the lead because they got more money from their failure.
 and every comics story has risks. BN could have been a 110% failure after Marvel Zombies. But there is more though behind it. More planning and strategy than just "oh LOOK! ZOMBIES!". As a result, DC has a great idea that is more (rather than Civil War's  Less) contained to the event. When Blackest Night is over, there wont be 2 years of "Fall out from Blackest Night" and then "Brightness Returns" (which is what Siege is). It will be mostly done, the only fall out being in the Green Lantern comics that all of this was built for. 
 what Marvel's doing isn't simple risk taking, its fan fiction, written with no real thought to what it will mean to the 60 year old iconic characters.
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@Grim: Trust me you'll have a hard time finding someone who loves both DC and Marvel more then me, I've been read comics for nearly 20 years, And have read nearly ever issue of Marvel books. And more then a few of Dc's. Things like Brand New Day were done by Joe Q because they wanted it to be less risky, I understand what you're saying about BN being a big deal, but in the end....It's zombies. And the rest of those Marvel risky things are what led to Marvel taking over 60% of the market and landing them in the top 5 best selling US mags. Risks have to be taken or things get stale. GJ seems to be one of the few people who understand that at DC and this seems to be Marvels creed. I like em both, but Marvel has always had that edge for me.
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Dear God, is Bendis's dialog awful or what? Every character "sounds" the same, talking like confused, inarticulate junior high kids. Please get him to stop interrupting people in the middle of sentences for no dramatic purpose, especially in what is effectively exposition. "Realistic" dialog with all the pauses and interruptions and word-fumbling belongs only on audio transcripts.

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 I don't know why people are missing the point behind the similarities between Civil War and Siege.  The catalyst for this event was already established that it needed to be similar to Civil War.  Don't understand why people are so up in arms about it.

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The fact that the incidents are similar is intentional. Loki and Osborne reference Civil War as to how they hatch their plan. I think it's a fantastic idea. the U-Foes take on Volstagg. Awesome. The Avengers books have never ever been in better hands. I also love the fact that the Chicago Bears were wiped out too. hilarious

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So am I the only one who isn't excited to see Thor, Cap, & Iron Man back together again?  I was actually looking forward to seeing Thor & Iron Man throw down.
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@jefprice said:

" @Alexander Anderson said:

" @hero vs. villian said:


Oh yes, because DC's mega-events have been sooooo superior...oh wait, they've all been mediocre to poor too.   The entire mega-event uber-crossover concept is creatively bankrupt.  It's just a cheap tactic to force fans to buy as many different comics as possible. "
Yeah the Evil Dead meets DC event is much better then doing something like DR that has never been done before.... Oh... Wait. Lol I love them both, but the Marvel event is much risker and hasn't been done 400 times over. Come on, we waited all this time for .... ZOMBIES? 
 

If you actually care about the characters or read more than 2 issues of their comics, BN is a massive deal. Blue Beetle. Jade. Martian Manhunter. Terra. their resurrections alone are "oh $hit" moments. Imagine Gwen Stacy, Uncle Ben,  and Peter's parents coming after him, Zombified, unstoppable, and looking for even the slightest emotion to harvest from his body. 
The event itself is brilliant, and the only reason its being drawn out is because there are so many dead heroes and family that fans of the characters would love to see.  Either way its a much better idea than "Look! All of your favorite heroes are zombies! Now lets watch them jump from plante to planet and througout the multiverse!"
...?
and risky isnt better. Risky leads to one More day, and Captain America surrendering, and Norman Osborn (a man who did a lot of killing and evil, and gained the reigns to the strongest most technologically advanced organization in the world with just a little show of self preservation) aka Iron Patriot. IT leads to WWHulk (Hulk used to have limits) and the random power surge that was Scarlet Witch in House of M.
 im sorry. At least at the end of DC's event, the characters will have grown and changed without LexLuthor being the new Batman,  Clark Kent never being married, and Bruce Wayne and Martian Manhunter being alive becuase the ones that died where (and have been for the past 20 years) skrulls.
im really sorry DC cant make that happen for you, since thats obviously what you want.
 
 
and its 4 books with 20 tie ins. Which means more than ever that your going to need to buy half the tie ins to keep up with whats going on and get the most out of your story. At least DC's events let you understand the story without the tie ins, its just better with them.
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@Alexander Anderson said:

" @hero vs. villian said:

" Well, if it isn't another Marvel piece of @#$% event they're throwing in our faces. GO BLACKEST NIGHT!!! KICK MARVEL'S ASS! "

Oh yes, because DC's mega-events have been sooooo superior...oh wait, they've all been mediocre to poor too.   The entire mega-event uber-crossover concept is creatively bankrupt.  It's just a cheap tactic to force fans to buy as many different comics as possible. "
Yeah the Evil Dead meets DC event is much better then doing something like DR that has never been done before.... Oh... Wait. Lol I love them both, but the Marvel event is much risker and hasn't been done 400 times over. Come on, we waited all this time for .... ZOMBIES? 
 
@Vance Astro: the power isn't his, he's deflecting a blast off his sword and it goes into the crowd      
 
 
This is also only 4 books, which means you will know the complete story before BN is even over.
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@Grim said:
" @Alexander Anderson: i have a feeling he's going for registration on the Asgardians. The whole problem here is that instead of trying to get clear of the blast, he deflected it into the crowd. The blast would have just killed everyone on the field and maybe him if he just took it, but instead he knocked it into the stands (those lightning strike looking things) and then possibly amplified it. So Norman's whole deal is probably that these guys are floating over our  country just as untrained as the heroes involved in the Stanford incident, except with even more power. also, i'm completely willing to bet that the UF whateer guys are invisible or something. They just did something similar in Superman, where they made it look like Supergirl and two other kryptonians killed Mon-El. in reality it was Metallo and another guy (im not saying the newer characters names so as not to confuse anyone who isnt following), but the world saw Supergirl kill Mon-El (who btw, wasnt really dead).  so i can easily see the attackers either looking like the UF-whatsits, but being different people, or them being completely invisible to technology... which is probably the only thing that survived that blast. ...cant believe im defending this.... "
I can buy that I suppose.  Still feels contrived as hell, but I'll accept it if it means I can have my old Marvel Earth back.
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@CosmicSpiral said:
" Let's face it, Volstagg has nowhere near the power to do that type of damage so quickly and too many people know it. 
Since when?
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Does any one think it would have been more interesting to see Norman's "Iron Patriot" take on a personality within his head?   And see it as sorta like the Id (Goblin) Ego (Norman) Super Ego (Iron Patriot)? 
 
Yeah if it this happens u heard it here first. 
 
PS Im looking forward to Siege.  And well they did wipe out the bears, who need to be put out of their misery.  Yes Im from the Chi.  And would like to see some Marvel heroes based out side of NYC.  I mean the Runaways originally were probably the best & most original Stuff Marvel did this decade, and they were outa LA.  Yes i know the X-men are in Cali to now.  Which is a good fit.  Some prep school in up state NY is so Anglo 60's 
 
 
Ok Genis- Vell was pretty amazing, So was NOH-VAR until his weak ass new costume.  Serious Black and white with Iron Man power booster things? 

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@Alexander Anderson: i have a feeling he's going for registration on the Asgardians. The whole problem here is that instead of trying to get clear of the blast, he deflected it into the crowd. The blast would have just killed everyone on the field and maybe him if he just took it, but instead he knocked it into the stands (those lightning strike looking things) and then possibly amplified it. So Norman's whole deal is probably that these guys are floating over our  country just as untrained as the heroes involved in the Stanford incident, except with even more power.
also, i'm completely willing to bet that the UF whateer guys are invisible or something. They just did something similar in Superman, where they made it look like Supergirl and two other kryptonians killed Mon-El. in reality it was Metallo and another guy (im not saying the newer characters names so as not to confuse anyone who isnt following), but the world saw Supergirl kill Mon-El (who btw, wasnt really dead).
 so i can easily see the attackers either looking like the UF-whatsits, but being different people, or them being completely invisible to technology... which is probably the only thing that survived that blast.
...cant believe im defending this....
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I thought this looked pretty cool but I would read at least a couple of issues of a comic just about Volstagg riding around sword chopping terrorists and super villains so what do I know.

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@War Killer said:
" @Alexander Anderson said:
"How many people died at Stamford?  612 wasn't it?  Well by the looks of things the body count from this incident is going to be much, much higher.  Like, in the thousands.  So could somebody please explain to me how this isn't going to completely blow up in Norman's face?  Now admittedly I'm not up to date on what's been happening in Dark Reign, but I can't imagine how rogue supers blowing up a freaking football stadium full of innocent people is going to be good for Osborn.  He's supposed to be in control, right?  The whole Civil War happened so that things like this would never happen again...and now all of a sudden we have Stamford Part 2.  You've done a heckuva job, Normie.  I understand he'll try to spin this as Asgard's sole responsibility, but he's director of HAMMER.  Asgard is ultimately his responsibility, and this is a failure of epic proportions.  I can't imagine how Loki convinced him to back this moronic scheme.  More broadly, I support this only because it might restore some semblance of stability to the Marvel Universe.  I'm full up with these bloated mega-events, each one more disorganized and cynical than the last.  A few years of nothing but normal, non-crossover comic runs would make me so damn happy right now. "
Okay first off, they blew up a football field, so ot's not in the 1000's, and this book is about strategic planning, Nroman can't just get up and attack Asgard for no reason, he had to give the the American people a reason too, and by the look of this, I don't think the American people are going to be happy about this one bit, it's all about planning.  "
Soldier Field has a capacity of 61,500.  Even if it was only half full when that blast went off, and even if only half the people in the stadium were killed, that's still more than 15,000 casualties, not including staff, players and anyone in the vicinity of the field who was hit by flying rubble.  That's what, 25 times the casualties at Stamford?  And from the art we can easily see that it's a near-sellout crowd, so that estimate is insanely conservative.  Given how incredibly catastrophic the blast was, I wouldn't be surprised if the casualty rate was well over 50%.  That's over 30,000 dead, who knows how many injured, and millions upon millions of dollars worth of property damage.   This thing dwarfs Stamford.
 
As for Norman's amazing strategy, I realize that the idiot is setting this up to manipulate the public and leverage Asgard.  My problem with it is that his chances of success are so goddamn low here.  Yeah, an Asgardian was involved, but at the end of the day this disaster was caused by rogue supercriminals who Norman had a responsibility to keep locked up.  This is on his head, not Asgard's.  It is his job to make sure that the Hood's animals are under control.  It is his job to manage relations with Asgard.  It is his job to make sure that a Stamford-level event does not happen again.  And what has he done?  Actively allowed a disaster far more devastating than Stamford to take place.  This represents a staggering failure of judgment on Norman's part.  What possible benefit could he see from this?  It's guaranteed to turn the public ferociously against HAMMER, the Avengers, everything.  I can't even begin to imagine how he's going to spin this in something that is not 100% his fault.  Even the moronic Marvel public shouldn't be stupid enough to fall for some bullsh*t line about how this is an act of war by Asgard. 
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Okay. Read Dark Avengers Annual and Siege: The Cabal...... I'm sold. >:(

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Poor horse, way to blow up solider field marvel.

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I'm just upset that this involves Asgard. It's about the only group from the main Marvel universe I still enjoy reading. I'm not a fan of these big cross-series events since I think they happen all too often. I think the quality of them needs to jump up a lot if they expect me to shell out all that money to pick up the vital titles involved.

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I gotta say, the events here do look a little familiar. But for me, there's just nothing here to spark my interest. I'll probably check it out, but I personally hate cross overs that go through other comics, to me it just seems like a pathetic excuse to make people buy the other books to follow a story. So, I'll get the limited series, but that's it.

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@War Killer: It won't be in the 1000s? You obviously don't know how big a professional football stadium is. Soldier Field, that stadium holds roughly 61,500 people. And even on a slow night for the Bears its still going to be in the 50 to 60k range. This blows Stanford out of the water.
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Looks interesting but I'll probably pick this up at a later time or when it goes to trade.

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Let's face it, Volstagg has nowhere near the power to do that type of damage so quickly and too many people know it. If anything's going to come out of this, then the U-Foes will have to be pointed out too and another angle will be played beyond "Hey, some foreign guy happened to be around while stuff blows up". Also, I just see this as Loki manipulating Osborn (who hasn't been close to a super-genius villain at all) by destroying his credibility.

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nice!!! im getting this 

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@Alexander Anderson said:
"How many people died at Stamford?  612 wasn't it?  Well by the looks of things the body count from this incident is going to be much, much higher.  Like, in the thousands.  So could somebody please explain to me how this isn't going to completely blow up in Norman's face?  Now admittedly I'm not up to date on what's been happening in Dark Reign, but I can't imagine how rogue supers blowing up a freaking football stadium full of innocent people is going to be good for Osborn.  He's supposed to be in control, right?  The whole Civil War happened so that things like this would never happen again...and now all of a sudden we have Stamford Part 2.  You've done a heckuva job, Normie.  I understand he'll try to spin this as Asgard's sole responsibility, but he's director of HAMMER.  Asgard is ultimately his responsibility, and this is a failure of epic proportions.  I can't imagine how Loki convinced him to back this moronic scheme.  More broadly, I support this only because it might restore some semblance of stability to the Marvel Universe.  I'm full up with these bloated mega-events, each one more disorganized and cynical than the last.  A few years of nothing but normal, non-crossover comic runs would make me so damn happy right now. "
Okay first off, they blew up a football field, so ot's not in the 1000's, and this book is about strategic planning, Nroman can't just get up and attack Asgard for no reason, he had to give the the American people a reason too, and by the look of this, I don't think the American people are going to be happy about this one bit, it's all about planning. 
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i for one am very pleased and i cant wait
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@hero vs. villian said:
" Well, if it isn't another Marvel piece of @#$% event they're throwing in our faces. GO BLACKEST NIGHT!!! KICK MARVEL'S ASS! "
Oh yes, because DC's mega-events have been sooooo superior...oh wait, they've all been mediocre to poor too.   The entire mega-event uber-crossover concept is creatively bankrupt.  It's just a cheap tactic to force fans to buy as many different comics as possible.
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@Watch Dog: an idea that they kept pushing off and an actuall plan to do it are two different things. Saying "hey, maybe somewhere down the line we'll use this in a story again" is not the same as " This story with Donna troy and Kyle is an exact look at what they will be doing  7months later during our event".
 All publsihers are compelled to hint at whats to come if they know what it is that coming. They have been laying the seeds for Siege (deliberatly) since Civil War. But Invasion's ties to Avengers Disassembled was simply someone trying to complete the story by using elements from the past. A:D wasn't the foundation to Secret Invasions Sky scraper, SI was a whole different structure thats just using some of  A:D's schematics. Just like Libra being drawn into FC. It wasn't planned since his appearance all those years ago, it was just found and added in to fill the story.
 
its been a constant in the two companies for over a decade now. DC plans 2-3 years at a time, while Marvel pretty much reacts to the times very quickly. The upside to Marvel's reactionary tactic is that they can pretty much add any real life politics or stories to their comics, and change things that fans dont like into things they do relatively quickly. The upside to DC's is that their stories are all always striving towards something or hinting at something big, as well as being interwoven and connected on more than just a cameo appearance level. the downside is that Marvel is always just action action action, and every truly detailed story has to tell itself. The downside to DC's planning is that sometimes the readers aren't feeling something, but the next 3 years are already planned out so they cant just alter something so people like it more. And of course, if something doesnt ship on schedule the whole story starts getting throw off (Final Crisis-Legion Of 3 Worlds-Flash Rebirth) 
used to be a huge marvel fan, and i still try to give them their due. and if you notice, im not even really bashing them. Thats just what ive noticed...
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How many people died at Stamford?  612 wasn't it?  Well by the looks of things the body count from this incident is going to be much, much higher.  Like, in the thousands.  So could somebody please explain to me how this isn't going to completely blow up in Norman's face?  Now admittedly I'm not up to date on what's been happening in Dark Reign, but I can't imagine how rogue supers blowing up a freaking football stadium full of innocent people is going to be good for Osborn.  He's supposed to be in control, right?  The whole Civil War happened so that things like this would never happen again...and now all of a sudden we have Stamford Part 2.  You've done a heckuva job, Normie.  I understand he'll try to spin this as Asgard's sole responsibility, but he's director of HAMMER.  Asgard is ultimately his responsibility, and this is a failure of epic proportions.  I can't imagine how Loki convinced him to back this moronic scheme.
 
More broadly, I support this only because it might restore some semblance of stability to the Marvel Universe.  I'm full up with these bloated mega-events, each one more disorganized and cynical than the last.  A few years of nothing but normal, non-crossover comic runs would make me so damn happy right now.

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I saw this Marvel.com at school the other day and this truthfully blew me away, and reading just this preview, I understand how this story is going to start out, and I would like to make a comment that I love the fact that it's only new people that are hating this Idea, just saying.

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@reaper2923:  God I hope so, i hate Loki as a woman
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@Mbecks14:  The Villains attacking Volstagg are the U-Foes; Vector, X-Ray, Vapor, and Ironclad
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Loki having a sex change again?