First Look: ALL-NEW X-MEN #32

True, If theirs one credit I'll give about Ultimatum. It's that so far with the exception of Doom everyone who died during that event has stayed dead.

@micah:

Yeah, that is how they retconned him to being "alive". But it really goes against the Ultimate-verse's mantra of, "whoever dies, stay dead."

Miles Morales deserves all the shine he getting, all new x-men is bout to get turnt up!

Well the thing is Doom wasn't dead apparently. Ben Grimm killed a stand in that Doom left in charge to run the country why he was away. But alot of the Ultimate Universe A-list characters are either dead or missing. The X-Men have been all but destroyed, the original Ultimates are a mess, and the Ultimate Fantastic Four don't feel like the Four anymore.

every five minutes? exaggerating a little aren't we? they've crossed over twice...three times if you want to get technical....once with Spider-men and another two times with Cataclysm...and in Cataclysm we got almost zero interaction between the two universes other than Galactus and Valeria Richards

as for the "we've ran out of ideas"....this was addressed during Spider-men...they're response was basically that times change

I for one welcome more crossovers as long as it's not over done and at this point it's not even close to being over done....I look forward to the possibility of 616 Jean, Bobby, and Kitty meeting their 1610 counterparts

I also REALLY REALLY look forward to Spider-men 2 when that eventually comes out

@micah:

You know its bad when they do the unthinkable and bring back dead characters (i.e. Doom).

You see, people run out of ideas all the time...that doesn't automatically make this a bad idea, just a new idea (which could be good OR bad, granted). I'm ll for it. DC visits alternate universes all the time, this isn't that different. I for one am excited to see more crossovers between 616 and Ultimate, now that the two universe are so different post-Ultimatum.

What they need to do is give us some decent Ultimate stories. You can clearly tell they don't have the confidence they had in the Universe way back when the first Ultimates came out (although Miles Morales: The Ultimate Spider-Man has been great). Anything that doesn't have Miles in it, shrivels out and dies.

I feel like Marvel wants to get rid of the Ultimate-verse and just dump the good Ultimate characters into the 616-verse.

They can't go back, some kind of temporal wall or other stuff, probable aftermath of Age of Ultron. They tried during Battle of Atom, but just can't.

It's like Marvel no longer cares, and is going "all in" with every story they could possibly tell that hasn't been told yet. Doesn't matter what "rules" it is or isn't breaking.

Part of me admires that, because at the end of the day, all that should matter is "Did you enjoy the story?". But another part of me is mourning a time when creators cared as much about canon and convention as the rest of us (instead of writing whatever will help them get into Hollywood).

I guess I'll be giving this a look.

Yeah I remember that. They completely trampled over that quote.

I probably missed something, but why are the original X-men still in modern times and not back where they should, or aren't they worried about messing up something with the present (did I miss something about them being from an alternate time/clones or something)? I really want Miles to just do his own thing instead of having him forced into things with others. Spider-men was cool because it showed a nice passing of the torch (in a way) and allowed him to develop as a character and know what he was doing, was alright.

Hey... remember when 616 and the Ultimate Universe WEREN'T crossing over every five minutes?

...yeah. Good times.

Hey! Remember when that one guy at Marvel said:

"If the 616 and Ultimate Marvel universes EVER have a crossover it means we've ran out of ideas?"

Yeah... I remember that too.

The fact that it's not a 616 version of Miles just makes me not interested in this story. I hope it doesn't drag on to long since Miles wont be staying in 616 and it wouldn't really have much of a lasting effect.

This should be fun. I enjoyed Bendis's Spider-Men, which was a somewhat similar concept.

As an aside, are they going to stick with Angel/X-23 "we have nothing in common and have barely spoken but we're going to sort of date because we're in the same comic" thing? Not that it's something I care about a lot, but there seems to be a lack of convincing relationships in comics right now.

so hope ultimate jean meets 616 jean. would. be. AWESOME.

@bladewolf said:

I kind of agree. And it's always fun to see some of these parody covers.

All-New X-Men have crossed over into modern times...they've been to outer space...now let's see how things go when they visit another reality!
...wait, what?

THis is gonna be awesome!

if you keep doing something on and on, it looses its meaning.

oh god, no, please i hope this is a joke

This is one wild idea...but I'm really looking forward to it!