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EXCLUSIVE: WORLDS' FINEST #6 4-Page Preview

Damian takes on his "sister" in the upcoming issue of WORLDS' FINEST.

One of the criticisms readers of WORLDS' FINEST have had about the series is that five issues in (if you don't count the zero issue), the series has felt disconnected from the rest of the DC Universe. The main reason for this is the fact that the two central characters of the book, Power Girl and The Huntress, haven't really had a lot of interaction with other DC characters. The release of the series' sixth issue, however, is going to change all of that.

Next Wednesday, November 7th, Damian Wayne will face his "sister," Helena Wayne, The Huntress in WORLDS' FINEST. Their encounter has the ability to bring The Huntress' character into the "Bat Family" fold, but will it? Or will this "sibling rivalry" be a one-shot deal? We will have to wait and see. Check out the exclusive preview of the upcoming issue provided by DC Comics, below, and let us know if you will be picking up this comic book next week.

• What happens when Huntress, the former Robin of Earth 2, meets Damian? The same thing that happens when anyone meets Damian: a massive fight!

• Huntress has managed to keep her true identity on this Earth a secret so far, but with Damian on her trail, can the world’s greatest detective be far behind?

Written by: Paul Levitz

Art by: Kevin Maguire, George Pérez, and Scott Koblish

Cover by: Kevin Maguire

Variant Cover by: Kevin Maguire

Page Count: 32

U.S. Price: 2.99

On Sale Date: Nov 7 2012

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Posted by MikeStark

My money's on Robin though, It should be interesting.

Edited by chipsnopotatoes

@sifodinson said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

I wrote that I hate hate posts like this , not hate posts in general .

You insult the character and your post comes off overly agressive even when he does the right thing , stopping a potentially dangerous visitor from another dimension from stealing . Damian has every right there is to defeat Helena . The only reasons she might get away with stealing like a common crook could be that the writer favours her because she is the main character .They are going to team up after this issue anyway , so chill .Helena is going to be fine and probably not going to be humilated that much .

And I don`t dislike her (at least at this point) , but I`d love to see either Selina or Bruce come alive for a couple of hours to give the kyle brat a spanking for stealing xD That would be poetic justice . After all her mother went trough she should know better...But sadly , that would be too silly for mainstream comics xD

.

Ah well. Then it's a good thing I don't give a rat's ass what you hate.

Does the right thing? Come now. Little demon tyke's a murderer. I don't really care for a team up. All I want to see is Helena smacking him around. He would look good with cement makeup.

SHE IS IS NOT A WAYNE :D.

People do realise that Helena Wayne and Damian Wayne aren't actually brother and sister right?

Their fathers were two completely different people.

I keep reading this “oh I hope she meets her brother” crap. No, just no. They’re not related. They’re from different planets in different universes. Even if their fathers are genetically identical, they’re still two separate people.

Of course, she's a WAYNE. Saying she isn't is just plain dumb. What do you think her last name on Earth 2 was? Who was Batman on Earth 2? As for them not being brother and sister, you're absolutely right. They're not.

Posted by chipsnopotatoes

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

I don`t really care that Damian has killed a couple of villains to be honest . I don`t see how that makes him unsympathetic when characters like Jason Todd or Wolverine can kill all the time and are fan favourites .

And yeah , stopping Helena from continuing to steal from Wayne Enterprises definately is the right thing to do .

Eh, I don't really care that you find him sympathetic or that he's a fan favorite or whatever circumstance they're shown in. As I said before, I want to see the naturally conceived offspring wipe the floor with GMO'd one.

Edited by MaxSchreck

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Posted by Teerack

Cool. I've been hoping Batman and Catwoman would learn they have a daughter.

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Edited by angelrifa

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

I don`t really care that Damian has killed a couple of villains to be honest . I don`t see how that makes him unsympathetic when characters like Jason Todd or Wolverine can kill all the time and are fan favourites .

And yeah , stopping Helena from continuing to steal from Wayne Enterprises definately is the right thing to do .

Eh, I don't really care that you find him sympathetic or that he's a fan favorite or whatever circumstance they're shown in. As I said before, I want to see the naturally conceived offspring wipe the floor with GMO'd one.

Racist ! EXACATLY WHAT YOU ARE ...lady .. Damian is a human and a kid .

Helena is a grown woman ..and she is not a Wayne of our Batfamily....

SHE NOT A PART OF OUR WAYNE FAMILY....

Posted by chipsnopotatoes

@angelrifa: @angelrifa said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

I don`t really care that Damian has killed a couple of villains to be honest . I don`t see how that makes him unsympathetic when characters like Jason Todd or Wolverine can kill all the time and are fan favourites .

And yeah , stopping Helena from continuing to steal from Wayne Enterprises definately is the right thing to do .

Eh, I don't really care that you find him sympathetic or that he's a fan favorite or whatever circumstance they're shown in. As I said before, I want to see the naturally conceived offspring wipe the floor with GMO'd one.

Racist ! EXACATLY WHAT YOU ARE ...lady .. Damian is a human and a kid .

Helena is a grown woman ..and she is not a Wayne of our Batfamily....

SHE NOT A PART OF OUR WAYNE FAMILY....

LOL. Call it what you like but I'm strictly with Michael Pollan on this one. And didn't know you were a WAYNE offspring too unless you're really being presumptuous.

Posted by bladewolf

I have no interest in this series, but I'd read this issue if I could borrow it from someone. Just might be funny to see Damian kick Huntress around

Posted by chipsnopotatoes

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

Posted by sifodinson

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

you're a sick person lady ...........you are a sick racist....

You should not read comics ........

Posted by angelrifa

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

You're a fucking racist!

You insult the origin of a child .. Nobody likes people like you ....I hate racists.. ( We all hate racists )

Edited by Ehecatl1234

I love racism! Especially over fictitious comic book characters! Seriously, you guys are fucking retarded.

Anyway, I’m sorry; I have to agree. Damian is WAY to overhyped. I don’t care if he has League of Shadows training. Repeat after me: Dick, Tim, Helena—they have BATMAN TRAINING. Fucking batman! He stands toe-to-toe with any League of Shadows villain and overcomes them. He’s quite arguably the greatest martial artist in the DC universe. How is training under him somehow magically insufficient compared to League of Shadows training? So much so in fact that a ten year old can defeat people like Tim and Dick who are twice his age? What, does Batman just suck that much? Was he lying? Did he just not try hard? Did he sleep too much?

I’m sorry. Helena should beat Damian. She’s got every advantage. She’s got 20 years of training under Batman and Catwoman, one of the world’s best martial artist and a master thief who also was a martial artist. She’s also got a height, weight, length, and strength advantage over Damian. I’m sorry, but he is outclassed. This over-hyping of his abilities because of who his bloody mother was is just bloody bullshit and someone needs to be able to put the kid in his place. Instead, he does whatever he wants with a shit attitude and complete recklessness and never suffers for his mistakes. It gets old. Helena would be exactly the kind of woman who should be able to do that. She’s more qualified than most for that task.

But here’s the real question—can THIS Helena Wayne do it? Honestly, despite all we know of her past, I’m surprised this New 52 Helena Wayne is even capable of dressing herself. She’s such a far fuckin’ cry from the 80s that it’s not even funny. I mean, shit… Levitt’s writing has been complete balls because despite what we know of her past, she doesn’t act like someone who was raised by BATMAN and CATWOMAN. I mean, she’s surprised that Gotham is bad? …What? How is that even fucking possible? She’s Batman’s daughter. I don’t care if it was Earth 2. Bruce becomes Batman for always the same goddamn reasons! There’s no way his daughter wouldn’t know that. In the last issue, she was stunned—stunned-- by how abuse towards woman was such a big deal… WHAT!? What woman on earth, any earth, would possibly be that way? Especially one who was the daughter of Catwoman, a woman who always has some semblance of abuse prevalent in her past!? What mother who pulled herself up by her bootstraps and said she was going to be a survivor would not teach her daughter this? For fuck’s sake! What was Helena, locked in the basement for 20 years?

And here, she’s rummaging through Wayne Enterprise accounts to steal and is completely surprised to be caught by a Bat-family member, not to mentions it looks like she’s drinking coffee on that table leaving whatever DNA behind, being criticized for her shit stealing despite being the daughter of a master thief, telling Damian she’s gonna steal again whenever she wants like some brat… Why is she there anyway? Didn’t Karen have a business? Couldn’t she get the money from there? What happened? Did they not invest in those 5 years? Are they incompetent in business as well? Karen’s had to sleep around apparently to make things work. Are they really this stupid?

Now compare if you will to the Helena Wayne of the 80s. This was a woman who was matured, intelligent, and believable as a daughter of Bruce and Selina. She had a law degree, knew how to run Wayne Enterprises when her father died, and was also a competent detective and crime fighter. There was a reason the team up between her and Karen was called “The World’s Finest”, because they WERE the world’s finest and best to offer when all the other heroes had died. They earned that title. When the New 52 came, I was expecting THAT Helena Wayne. Not this naïve, clueless bumpkin who acts like a 13 year old girl despite being in her 20s. This is not the Helena Wayne I fell in love with. This is not a worthy Huntress, especially during a time when fans are (rightfully) still pissed and feeling the injustice of having their Helena Bertinelli reduced to a footnote and a fake identity.

Posted by sifodinson

@Ehecatl1234 said:

I love racism! Especially over fictitious comic book characters! Seriously, you guys are fucking retarded.

Anyway, I’m sorry; I have to agree. Damian is WAY to overhyped. I don’t care if he has League of Shadows training. Repeat after me: Dick, Tim, Helena—they have BATMAN TRAINING. Fucking batman! He stands toe-to-toe with any League of Shadows villain and overcomes them. He’s quite arguably the greatest martial artist in the DC universe. How is training under him somehow magically insufficient compared to League of Shadows training? So much so in fact that a ten year old can defeat people like Tim and Dick who are twice his age? What, does Batman just suck that much? Was he lying? Did he just not try hard? Did he sleep too much?

I’m sorry. Helena should beat Damian. She’s got every advantage. She’s got 20 years of training under Batman and Catwoman, one of the world’s best martial artist and a master thief who also was a martial artist. She’s also got a height, weight, length, and strength advantage over Damian. I’m sorry, but he is outclassed. This over-hyping of his abilities because of who his bloody mother was is just bloody bullshit and someone needs to be able to put the kid in his place. Instead, he does whatever he wants with a shit attitude and complete recklessness and never suffers for his mistakes. It gets old. Helena would be exactly the kind of woman who should be able to do that. She’s more qualified than most for that task.

But here’s the real question—can THIS Helena Wayne do it? Honestly, despite all we know of her past, I’m surprised this New 52 Helena Wayne is even capable of dressing herself. She’s such a far fuckin’ cry from the 80s that it’s not even funny. I mean, shit… Levitt’s writing has been complete balls because despite what we know of her past, she doesn’t act like someone who was raised by BATMAN and CATWOMAN. I mean, she’s surprised that Gotham is bad? …What? How is that even fucking possible? She’s Batman’s daughter. I don’t care if it was Earth 2. Bruce becomes Batman for always the same goddamn reasons! There’s no way his daughter wouldn’t know that. In the last issue, she was stunned—stunned-- by how abuse towards woman was such a big deal… WHAT!? What woman on earth, any earth, would possibly be that way? Especially one who was the daughter of Catwoman, a woman who always has some semblance of abuse prevalent in her past!? What mother who pulled herself up by her bootstraps and said she was going to be a survivor would not teach her daughter this? For fuck’s sake! What was Helena, locked in the basement for 20 years?

And here, she’s rummaging through Wayne Enterprise accounts to steal and is completely surprised to be caught by a Bat-family member, not to mentions it looks like she’s drinking coffee on that table leaving whatever DNA behind, being criticized for her shit stealing despite being the daughter of a master thief, telling Damian she’s gonna steal again whenever she wants like some brat… Why is she there anyway? Didn’t Karen have a business? Couldn’t she get the money from there? What happened? Did they not invest in those 5 years? Are they incompetent in business as well? Karen’s had to sleep around apparently to make things work. Are they really this stupid?

Now compare if you will to the Helena Wayne of the 80s. This was a woman who was matured, intelligent, and believable as a daughter of Bruce and Selina. She had a law degree, knew how to run Wayne Enterprises when her father died, and was also a competent detective and crime fighter. There was a reason the team up between her and Karen was called “The World’s Finest”, because they WERE the world’s finest and best to offer when all the other heroes had died. They earned that title. When the New 52 came, I was expecting THAT Helena Wayne. Not this naïve, clueless bumpkin who acts like a 13 year old girl despite being in her 20s. This is not the Helena Wayne I fell in love with. This is not a worthy Huntress, especially during a time when fans are (rightfully) still pissed and feeling the injustice of having their Helena Bertinelli reduced to a footnote and a fake identity.

She is 27 and Damian is 10 that's not a fair fight- Helena is much older than Damian .

breaking into Wayne Enterprises She steals money..

She is a criminal ...Helena could work for their money...

Edited by chipsnopotatoes

@sifodinson said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

you're a sick person lady ...........you are a sick racist....

You should not read comics ........

@angelrifa said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

You're a fucking racist!

You insult the origin of a child .. Nobody likes people like you ....I hate racists.. ( We all hate racists )

Racist! Racist! Do you two parrots even know what you're talking about? Damian was a eugenics experiment. Google eugenics and racism. Now there's a connection.

Posted by sifodinson

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@sifodinson said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

you're a sick person lady ...........you are a sick racist....

You should not read comics ........

@angelrifa said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

You're a fucking racist!

You insult the origin of a child .. Nobody likes people like you ....I hate racists.. ( We all hate racists )

Racist! Racist! Do you two parrots even know what you're talking about? Damian was a eugenics experiment. Google eugenics and racism. Now there's a connection.

and you're an evil old woman....

You insult the origin of a person that's racism .

Edited by chipsnopotatoes

@sifodinson said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@sifodinson said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

you're a sick person lady ...........you are a sick racist....

You should not read comics ........

@angelrifa said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@MaxSchreck said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

Okay ... that means that the guy who compared your attitude towards Damian with racism wasn`t so wrong after all .No offense , but you put someone down because of the way he was born .

Racist? For preferring the natural over the artificial? Come on, that's like saying it's racist to prefer water over soda. It seems like Damian has this ridiculously contrived origin ("genetically modified to be perfect" pffft) so that he can be written as this Bat-Godling. Sorry, but I'm not impressed.

So I don't think some reject from the Island of Dr. Moreau should be given preferential treatment over other Bruce's other kids -- Helena, Dick, Tim, etc. Big deal, sue me.

You're a fucking racist!

You insult the origin of a child .. Nobody likes people like you ....I hate racists.. ( We all hate racists )

Racist! Racist! Do you two parrots even know what you're talking about? Damian was a eugenics experiment. Google eugenics and racism. Now there's a connection.

and you're an evil old woman....

You insult the origin of a person that's racism .

Perhaps you need to go back and check the dictionary, my dear child. Your reasoning is as mature as Damian

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

Edited by MaxSchreck

@Ehecatl1234

Damian never suffered for his recklessness? Are you kidding me? Have you ever read a comic book with him? He is basically put in his place all the time when he does something stupid in one way or another.

And how the hell can you complain about a character who according to you never suffers for his recklessness and defend a character that has acted like common thief and got caught? If there is anyone who deserves to be put in his place in this book it is Helena.

And Damian is not just some sort of experiment . He is as human as you and me , the only differnce between him and any other ten year old is that he is slightly stronger ,more endurable , intelligent and that he had a really f***** up upringing .You can`t blame him for that .He should be judged by his behaviour and not by his biology . And in this book he has caught a thief that stole from his families fortune . He has the right to kick Helenas butt like any other Batfamily member would -

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

I'm actually excited for this issue. Been wanting Helena and Karen to be interacting with Earth-0 characters for some time. And now we get to see Damian beat Helena for all her thefts she made recently..or try to anyway...

Posted by SlickyMike88

I hope that little bitch(Damian) get's his ass whuped , I can't stand crime fighting children at his age :P Well Hit girl is tolerable:)

Posted by CitizenJP

Damian is going to lay down the iron-backhand pimp slap.

Posted by Mrfuzzynutz

Finally seems that we will have something happen in this book, My love for these characters is all that is keeping me coming back each month, because this is the only way I can get my Power Girl/Huntress fix, aside from Ani-Comi books, but those are kind of weak as well.

Hand to hand I think Damien would beat Huntress without a question, but I think she will try to outsmart him, because as smart as Damien may be, he IS only 10 and has not seen every trick in the book.

And he has not gone up against Selena yet to my knowledge so maybe the cat will be able to teach the lil bat a thing or two

Posted by cameron83

Even though I'm not a mod,I don't suggest you guys use profanity....even If you're joking.

Seriously,a$$ is as far you can go on this site

Posted by Green ankh

looks fun. But id like to see a battle of Robins! I think Jason would beat the snot out all the others.

Posted by MaxSchreck

@Green ankh:

Kinda off topic , but the one that would beat the snot out of all the others would be Dick . He beat Jason at least twice.

Posted by UltraBiel

I'm hating the new Huntress...But Damian is such an ass, that I wanted him to be kicked like there was no tomorrow!

Posted by MaxSchreck

@UltraBiel:

Depends on who is writing him . I think some writers just don`t get the message that he isn`t the same character that was introduced to us in Batman and Son anymore . Perhaps they should change his origin a bit , give us a scene or two in which he defies Talias will and prove that he can be a hero , just like Grant Morrison did in Batman and Robin .

Posted by Spideycap

Damian's a beast.

Posted by Maxman3

This is an encounter I've been dreaming of since they released Worlds Finest #1

Posted by ccraft

@BatBen9135: So true, I cant wait until they make damian older, hes gonna be unstoppable!

Edited by JKs_Queen

I hope Huntress(Helena Wayne) kicks the crap of that Brat(Damian!!!!

Huntress Rocks!! :)

Edited by JKs_Queen

@chipsnopotatoes:

Wait I don't get how they get racist from you saying that he came from a bubble doesn't racist have to do with race not how you are born, like in freaky experiment which I wish would have failed. I agree with you that kid is annoying and intolerable, he is a murder and psychopath(just like his mother) and I hate that DC kept him, Helena is better, her mother is awesome, and not to mention she is the first and REAL child of Bruce Wayne

Posted by MaxSchreck

So , who won ? And how ?

Posted by JKs_Queen

@MaxSchreck: It was damn draw!!! Paul Levits wrote it to where Helena didn't want to hurt him so she became like a punching bag!!! The only thing she did was block him and would dodge! uhh!:(

Posted by entropy_aegis

First issue of this series for me(and most likely the last).Huntress and PG have like next to no personality,Damian was'nt written as well as he should have been,the plot does'nt intrigue me either.

2.5/5 IMO.

Posted by entropy_aegis

@Ehecatl1234 said:

I love racism! Especially over fictitious comic book characters! Seriously, you guys are fucking retarded.

Anyway, I’m sorry; I have to agree. Damian is WAY to overhyped. I don’t care if he has League of Shadows training. Repeat after me: Dick, Tim, Helena—they have BATMAN TRAINING. Fucking batman! He stands toe-to-toe with any League of Shadows villain and overcomes them. He’s quite arguably the greatest martial artist in the DC universe. How is training under him somehow magically insufficient compared to League of Shadows training? So much so in fact that a ten year old can defeat people like Tim and Dick who are twice his age? What, does Batman just suck that much? Was he lying? Did he just not try hard? Did he sleep too much?

I’m sorry. Helena should beat Damian. She’s got every advantage. She’s got 20 years of training under Batman and Catwoman, one of the world’s best martial artist and a master thief who also was a martial artist. She’s also got a height, weight, length, and strength advantage over Damian. I’m sorry, but he is outclassed. This over-hyping of his abilities because of who his bloody mother was is just bloody bullshit and someone needs to be able to put the kid in his place. Instead, he does whatever he wants with a shit attitude and complete recklessness and never suffers for his mistakes. It gets old. Helena would be exactly the kind of woman who should be able to do that. She’s more qualified than most for that task.

But here’s the real question—can THIS Helena Wayne do it? Honestly, despite all we know of her past, I’m surprised this New 52 Helena Wayne is even capable of dressing herself. She’s such a far fuckin’ cry from the 80s that it’s not even funny. I mean, shit… Levitt’s writing has been complete balls because despite what we know of her past, she doesn’t act like someone who was raised by BATMAN and CATWOMAN. I mean, she’s surprised that Gotham is bad? …What? How is that even fucking possible? She’s Batman’s daughter. I don’t care if it was Earth 2. Bruce becomes Batman for always the same goddamn reasons! There’s no way his daughter wouldn’t know that. In the last issue, she was stunned—stunned-- by how abuse towards woman was such a big deal… WHAT!? What woman on earth, any earth, would possibly be that way? Especially one who was the daughter of Catwoman, a woman who always has some semblance of abuse prevalent in her past!? What mother who pulled herself up by her bootstraps and said she was going to be a survivor would not teach her daughter this? For fuck’s sake! What was Helena, locked in the basement for 20 years?

And here, she’s rummaging through Wayne Enterprise accounts to steal and is completely surprised to be caught by a Bat-family member, not to mentions it looks like she’s drinking coffee on that table leaving whatever DNA behind, being criticized for her shit stealing despite being the daughter of a master thief, telling Damian she’s gonna steal again whenever she wants like some brat… Why is she there anyway? Didn’t Karen have a business? Couldn’t she get the money from there? What happened? Did they not invest in those 5 years? Are they incompetent in business as well? Karen’s had to sleep around apparently to make things work. Are they really this stupid?

Now compare if you will to the Helena Wayne of the 80s. This was a woman who was matured, intelligent, and believable as a daughter of Bruce and Selina. She had a law degree, knew how to run Wayne Enterprises when her father died, and was also a competent detective and crime fighter. There was a reason the team up between her and Karen was called “The World’s Finest”, because they WERE the world’s finest and best to offer when all the other heroes had died. They earned that title. When the New 52 came, I was expecting THAT Helena Wayne. Not this naïve, clueless bumpkin who acts like a 13 year old girl despite being in her 20s. This is not the Helena Wayne I fell in love with. This is not a worthy Huntress, especially during a time when fans are (rightfully) still pissed and feeling the injustice of having their Helena Bertinelli reduced to a footnote and a fake identity.

To say Batman can overcome any LOS member is false,most of those guys have given him beatings and stalemates.Batman is one of the best but most certainly not the best.Cass Cain,Sensei and Lady Shiva are better than him and they're LOS trained.

Bringing Dick and Tim is pointless because they've already proven capable of defeating Damian and they'd destroy Huntress as well.

Logically looking you'd be correct on the physical advantages but remember Cass Cain as a 9 year old snapped a dude neck and killed those huge deer like animals(wildebeest?),simply put Helena is'nt beating Damian and the time he's adult few could(going by his future).

But I do agree with you when it comes to the series.

Posted by Ehecatl1234

Ah no... You’re wrong. Period. You cannot convince me or anyone with any sense that a woman who trained under a man who studies EVERY martial art. Who goes out of his way to be at the peak of his condition physically and mentally would train people INFERIOR to the League of Shadows! Even if what you’re saying was remotely true, then why is her fighting style so like his own? Did she train with the League? No she trained with Batman. So that means he’s fighting using Batman’s training. Obviously Batman isn’t inferior to the League if Damian is learning and using what he teaches. And this kid, this 10 year old kid is beating a woman who is 22. She’s got DOUBLE his training and experience. And moreover, he’s reckless. He’s arrogant. He’s doesn’t always think things through. She should be able to strategically use that against him. She’s the daughter of Batman. She should be able to be calmer, more rational, more able to control the situation and the fight. It doesn’t make him look bad if she wins. It reinforces her training, re-establishes her connection to the people who raised her, and shows that she is competent. I understand he’s supposed to be a little badass. I do. I understand he’s got some genetic mojo going on. And for as much as I HATE how over-hyped he is, he’s not a bad character. He’s got a good story going on and if it weren’t for the way people over-blow him, I might actually admit I like him. But if he can beat Helena Wayne—then fuck, why not let him beat Batman too while we’re at it! This woman was trained just as long as he was for double the amount of time. She experienced a whole fucking war that practically destroyed her planet. She was trained for years upon years. And Batman being as obsessive and over-protective as he has been repeatedly shown to be EVEN IN THIS VERY BOOK would make sure she had the best. Selina, who is a survivor at heart, would make sure of that as well. Fuck, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bruce sent her to train with the Amazons on his world!

Helena should be a badass. In the 1980s, she was. She and Karen ran shit on Earth 2 after everyone basically died. She took control of Wayne Enterprises, kept the city safe, kept the world under control. She was one of the World’s Finest fighters alive and She was equal to Batman in every regard. She inherited the right to be compared to him and be his equal! This 10 year old killing machine shouldn’t just beat her. Just like he shouldn’t just beat Dick or Jason or Tim—which he has before. But no—everyone just turns their brain off when going up against him. They don’t try to use his cocky attitude and reckless aggression against him. They forget they have a brain and get beat like children. Oh, and if you’re saying that Dick, Jason, and Tim should beat Helena, uh no… Equal footing I’ll believe and accept. Win some, loss some, sure. Outright beat? No. Helena has trained as much and in some respects longer than them. Dick maybe not. Maybe she’d loss to Dick.

But what’s it matter? Damian does win. By throwing her a dumpster, planting his foot on her chest, and proclaiming “I am Robin!” Yeah. Way to go Levitz! You just told everyone your character was trash, was not the ‘REAL’ Robin, and was under Damian’s boot. Way to destroy your own characters and their backstories just to give Damian his 15 seconds of badassery. Way to go, Paul.

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Posted by daredevil21134

GO Damian