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Everything Wrong with 2012's Comic Book Movies

Did The Dark Knight Rises,The Avengers or The Amazing Spider-Man have more "flaws?"

Regardless of which one is your favorite, there's no denying this year was an awesome cinematic experience for comic fans. Marvel's The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, The Amazing Spider-Man, Dredd... there was something for all of us to enjoy.  After the likes of Green Lantern in 2011, this year was certainly one to appreciate.
 
But as expected, this also brought a dark cloud over our community. The trio of big movies divided many comic book fans as they picked their favorite and attempted to cite why it was superior (sorry, Parker, poor choice of words) to the others. Well, a Youtube account called "CinemaSins" has popped up and made 3 hilarious videos pointing out "everything wrong" with this year's big 3 CBMs. 
 
Remember, a fair amount of these "flaws" are just thrown in for comedic value. No matter what I say, a discussion on which movie was "the best" or "the worst" is bound to break out. Please keep the conversation friendly or not even Odin will be able to save you from the ban hammer.

    
   
  
  
 
 
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Posted by StMichalofWilson

This is the classic complexity of a comic book movie. There are some that will win the appeal of audiences while being a box-office flop or not much of a high price, or it's the other way around, where the movie's a disgrace but gain a lot of money. TDKR, Dredd, and Amazing Spider-Man are examples. Then there's the movie that has a little of both: an appeal to both fans and money-grubbers. The perfect example is (of course) The Avengers. The only flop was Ghost Rider.

Posted by Urban_Ronin

These are hilarious

Posted by sunhawk

Turn off your brain and just enjoy the movie FFS.

Posted by joshmightbe

I do find it funny when people bitch because Thor didn't solo all the bad guys in Avengers, It was a team movie, they had to give everyone some time in the spot light, Thor will get to be the big badass again this summer. I feel bad for Hulk cause most people I've talked to think he was the best part of the movie but he can't get another shot at a solo flick until after the sequel

Posted by Icon

I thought Avengers (which was riddled with holes) would have had more "flaws" than ASM. Some of the problems with ASM there seemed a little nitpicky.

Edited by bloggerboy

TDKR was very flawed but it was still smarter and emotionally more involving than The Avengers and TASM combined. Throw in the Raimi Spider-Man movies and all The Avengers prequel movies for good measure.

Nolan's Batman movies are one of the few of the genre I can actually call films.

Posted by sagejonathan

I noticed most of the problems, but I still enjoyed the movies immensely.

Posted by comicfan123

Well, to me personally, The Dark Knight Rises was outstanding, if dark and dreary. The Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man were also excellent, but I myself had lots more fun watching them.

Posted by joshmightbe

@bloggerboy: Hard to take your estimation of a films intelligence seriously when you say things like "more smarter"

Posted by MysteriousUsername

Dark Knight Rises was a huge disappointment for me. I had just re-read Knightfall and everything.

Posted by worldFlash

This brings the question to mind did you even watch any of these movies? I mean half of these reasons are explained in the movies. Tony Stark being friends with Bruce Banner, and the card scene was supposed to be emotional due to Phil not getting Cap to sign his cards and him being a big fan of Cap. Some of it was true, but most was explained in the movie.

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Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@CaioTrubat said:

Wow they have like only three videos in this account and they already have more than 20000 subscribers.

Not to mention his profile picture/account is extremely bland.

Posted by iaconpoint

Except for pretty much all of the Batman ones, most of the rest of those are opinions, not mistakes or plot holes. A few funny ones in Avengers, lots and lots and lots of sad/true ones in Batman, and HOW RUDE!!! ones in Spider-Man.

Posted by fica990

@joshmightbe:

Well, maybe english is not his native language so he maybe doesn't know the grammar perfectly (nor do I). What's your point? And I agree, TDKR (and that was the worst of the trilogy) was better than Avengers and ASM. Half of these "wrongs" in the clip above are explained in the movie. And I'm not saying the movie is perfect, it's not, but imo it's better than overrated Avengers... Someone said that we just turn off the brain and watch the movie, well avengers (and any other movie) can't be the best CBM if it requires from you to do that... But that's just my opinion...

Posted by joshmightbe

@fica990: Anyone with first grade level knowledge of the English language knows that the Er in the word means the word more is unnecessary just as Most is unnecessary when there's an Est at the end of a word.

Posted by RedOwl_1

Some of those flaws are really bad... yet that was really funny.

Personally I loved them all:

  • The Avengers was epic. period.
  • The Dark Knight Rises was beautiful, not the most perfect movie but had a lot of emotions and stuff involved, more than the other giving 20% more meaning :D
  • ASM was cool, I believe that being Hipster is a lot better than being emo and whine for everything. Peter Parker *and everything* is a lot cooler than in all those Raimi's movies.
Posted by Mr. Kamikaze

Missed one of the major ones for DKR. How did Bruce get from a country on the other side of the ocean to a locked down Gotham City without anyone noticing?

Also, ASM...one that personally bugged me. The bridge scene...he just left all those other cars there...dafuq bro.

Posted by carnivalofsins00

I know this is supposed to be for comedic purpose, but this was pretty unfunny. It actually makes me upset how unfunny this was.

Posted by Daughter_of_Gotham

My problem with Dark Knight Rises, was John Blake.

Not as a character. But as Robin. Everything he did until the allusion to the Robin name was fantastic.

Posted by comicace3

I find the spidey one hillariouse but I still like the movies.

Posted by JakeN7

@modunhanul said:

Uhm, I thought Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance was 2012 movie?

Literally the WORST movie I've seen in my life. And I've seen Battlefield: Earth and The Last Airbender!

Yeah, it came out in February but I'm glad it wasn't mentioned.

Posted by batshrine

Love how Spiderman, the least popular of those 3, committed the least sins

Posted by bloggerboy

@joshmightbe: Well we all make grammar mistakes every now and then.

Posted by snootchie_bootchies

Lame!

Posted by sparty-dbq

The DKR video was easily the funniest. I can even think of a few things that they didn't mention. Like how Bruce was able to leap out of the pit without the rope because apparently he wasn't really trying when he had it. Or Bruce's allusion near the end that tells Gordon who he is. Are you telling me that in over 30 years in law enforcement in a harsh, crime-ridden metropolis, that was the ONLY time that he's had to console a child victim?

Posted by pspin

These are funny but some are not true. Oh well.

The Honest Trailers are hilarious too.

Posted by TheCannon

It was only a good year for two movies. The Amazing Spider-Man f*cking sucked. They didn't cover even a fraction of things wrong with that movie.

Posted by MysteriousUsername

@sparty-dbq said:

The DKR video was easily the funniest. I can even think of a few things that they didn't mention. Like how Bruce was able to leap out of the pit without the rope because apparently he wasn't really trying when he had it. Or Bruce's allusion near the end that tells Gordon who he is. Are you telling me that in over 30 years in law enforcement in a harsh, crime-ridden metropolis, that was the ONLY time that he's had to console a child victim?

Gordon never forgot the day that rich little brat stole his favorite coat.

Posted by dreamfall31

Biggest flaw of Amazing Spiderman was re-telling the entire origin of how he became Spiderman.

Posted by Gambit1024

@bloggerboy said:

Nolan's Batman movies are one of the few of the genre I can actually call films.

Movies and films are the same thing...

Posted by MysteriousUsername

@dreamfall31 said:

Biggest flaw of Amazing Spiderman was re-telling the entire origin of how he became Spiderman.

At least they changed things up a bit this time, reminded me of when I first read Ultimate Spider-Man, as I didn't expect the changes and it made the story feel fresher.

Posted by KnightofSteel

Funny, but I still loved TDKR especially the ending where it was epic while Nolan really left it up to the audience to decide which "route of fate" Batman and Blake took.

Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus

Alright, Avengers Movie Sin Counter #42 was freaking hilarious! Dark Knight Rises Movie Sin Counter #4 makes me chuckle. And Amazing Spider-Man Movie Sin Counter #8 had me floored and wailing in laughter. So great!

Edited by FadeToBlackBolt

I love that every problem with Rises can be explained by the viewer not being a f*ckwit.  
 
For example; 
How did Blake know where Gordon came out? He went to the outflow tunnel that the kid from the boys' home was found in.  
 
Of course, an IQ above 60 is required to actually watch Rises. 
 
Honestly, I've had enough with how f*cking stupid the people on this website are. 

Posted by MysteriousUsername

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

I love that every problem with Rises can be explained by the viewer not being a f*ckwit. For example; How did Blake know where Gordon came out? He went to the outflow tunnel that the kid from the boys' home was found in. Of course, an IQ above 60 is required to actually watch Rises. Honestly, I've had enough with how f*cking stupid the people on this website are.

I disagree. Half the "sins" are freakin' jokes anyway and being stupid has nothing to do with not liking Rises.

Sure, you can explain away what seem like plot holes, but you sure as heck can't make half the crap that movie throws at the viewers any better.

For instance: Robin. He's treated like a hot head despite his actions being completely justified, knows who Batman right the heck out of nowhere with little real justification as to how he figured it out, and his name is literally Robin just so that the movie can pull an inane twist out at the end that most people saw coming anyway.

Rises isn't a horrible movie, but it is still one of the most flawed and disappointing films I've seen all year.

Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@MysteriousUsername said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

I love that every problem with Rises can be explained by the viewer not being a f*ckwit. For example; How did Blake know where Gordon came out? He went to the outflow tunnel that the kid from the boys' home was found in. Of course, an IQ above 60 is required to actually watch Rises. Honestly, I've had enough with how f*cking stupid the people on this website are.

I disagree. Half the "sins" are freakin' jokes anyway and being stupid has nothing to do with not liking Rises.

Sure, you can explain away what seem like plot holes, but you sure as heck can't make half the crap that movie throws at the viewers any better.

For instance: Robin. He's treated like a hot head despite his actions being completely justified, knows who Batman right the heck out of nowhere with little real justification as to how he figured it out, and his name is literally Robin just so that the movie can pull an inane twist out at the end that most people saw coming anyway.

Rises isn't a horrible movie, but it is still one of the most flawed and disappointing films I've seen all year.

Actually, being stupid has a lot to do with it. The fact you called things that are easily explainable plot holes kind of proves that.  
 
Robin is treated like a hothead by ONE person, who disliked him because he questioned his decisions. Not exactly something to shake your head at. The knowing Bruce was Batman thing was obviously an initial suspicion that was confirmed by the fact Bruce and Batman disappeared at the same time. He would have investigated it, but that first meeting placed the seeds of what would later be a certified conclusion.  
 
The big issue people seem to have with Rises is that they say it explained too much, then they bitch that it didn't spoonfeed everything them. In short, they are contrarian douchebags who decide to hate on something that tried to be intelligent and treat the viewer with respect, because a movie can't be smarter than a comic fan can it? No, no, no. Comic fans are the intellectual saviours of the masses, it's why guys like Bendis and Hickman are literary genii. 
Posted by MysteriousUsername

@FadeToBlackBolt:

Did you just call me stupid for doing something I didn't actually do?

I didn't call any of those things I mentioned plot holes, I just felt they were issues with the film pertaining to the character. They got on my nerves not because they messed up the plot, but because they just kind of annoyed me by being there. Like how the first Batman vs Bane fight went down, I understand the justifications but still felt the scene didn't really have impact of it's comic counterpart.

I don't dislike films that make me think, I loved Inception for instance(I know it's not the best example, but hey, it's the one I remember best), but when all I'm thinking is "goodness when will this movie get to the fun parts?" then I don't think the film counts as enjoyable to me at that point.

You really need to calm down with the generalizing here, people have varied reasons for varied opinions.

Posted by DeusVult

First of all, the first two videos are both more then 3 minutes. Secondly, what morons made these videos, I could answer like 80% of there supposed "flaws" with the movies.

Posted by MysteriousUsername

@DeusVult:

Try and take the vids with a grain of salt, they're clearly meant to be jokes.

Posted by DeusVult

@MysteriousUsername said:

@DeusVult:

Try and take the vids with a grain of salt, they're clearly meant to be jokes.

You know what, your right. If you look at it from a comedic point of view its really not that big of a deal. you should check this one out, its a hilarious "honest" trailer for TDKR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

Posted by MysteriousUsername

@DeusVult:

Haha! That's pretty great.

Posted by neiliusprime

this made my day :)

Posted by Loki2u

@FadeToBlackBolt:

Thank you. I agree with you completely. :)

Posted by Xanni15
Edited by entropy_aegis

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Of course, an IQ above 60 is required to actually watch Rises.

LOL,I do not believe for one second that the movie was a flawless masterpiece,it had issues(particularly Talia's underwhelming role) but why do certain comic fans call it crap? I'll never know honestly.

@Gambit1024 said:

@bloggerboy said:

Nolan's Batman movies are one of the few of the genre I can actually call films.

Movies and films are the same thing...

Eh a true cinema fan could write a thesis on the differences lol.For the general movie goer like you and I it makes no difference at all.

Posted by D3athstroke

Those movies are made by people who never ever heard about those characters

Bane was disaster

And Loki... poor Loki

Posted by Timotheus316

These youtube reviews were funny and i watched all 3. I told my wife, when I go to a superhero movie I try to suspend my views and reality and just enjoy the damn movie not pick it apart to see what's wrong with it. Sure, they all had flaws but what movie doesn't? It's a SUPERHERO MOVIE. They don't exist!

Posted by MaxSchreck

I loved the Avengers ... Amazing Spider Man was cool ,too , but I was very dissapointed by the dark knight rises . In my opinion it did not really feel like a Batman movie anymore . Nothing was really true to the source material anymore , except maybe Catwoman . As an action movie its pretty good I guess , but as a Batman movie it was one huge dissapointment for me .

Posted by jordama

I just realized that I only saw one of the "Big 3"

Edited by bloggerboy

@Gambit1024 said:

@bloggerboy said:

Nolan's Batman movies are one of the few of the genre I can actually call films.

Movies and films are the same thing...

Well technically they are not since you don't shoot movies on film anymore.

But what I meant was more of the structure and the strengths of the medium. A film is trying to tell it's own story, not just adapt something from another genre without bringing anything substantial to the mix. The Avengers is just the adaptive kind of a movie. It plays it safe and does it so well. It's an entertaining popcorn flick, a summer movie.

But something like The Dark Knight (which is a fantastic crime thriller) is more like a film, wrestling in the same league as something like Heat. While The Dark Knight Rises is way more mainstream I'd still rank it closer to a proper film than just a movie adaptation. Social commentary is also one of the most prevelant attributes to all great films throughout the medium's 100 year history. That's also what Nolan's Batman movies have while The Avengers have...alien invasions with ZERO relevance or symbolism.

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