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Does Marvel Publish Too Many Event Books?

Between 'Fear Itself,' 'Schism,' 'Shattered Heroes' and more, how can comic fans keep up?

Few things in comics are more evident than the love hate relationship that comic fans have with comic books and publishing companies. For those of us that love Superman, Supergirl and the rest of DC's roster, you may have spent the last few months feeling slightly distraught and apprehensive about the impending changes to the DCU.

New 52 Supergirl re-design
New 52 Supergirl re-design

And as much as DC's publicity has tried to quell your fears, the fact that there has been no mention of what will happen to characters like Stephanie Brown (Batgirl) and Wally West (the former Flash) can be a bit disheartening when these are some of your favorite characters. I know how you feel. Recently I wrote an article on Cassandra Cain and why I felt she deserved better treatment in the new DC Universe, instead of being stuck in limbo for the foreseeable future (which, as far as I can tell based on solicits for upcoming comics, is exactly what will happen to our poor Cass). But DC isn't the only company getting flack from it's fans about the state of mainstream comics. Marvel has been getting an earful as well -- and while the argument is different, Marvel fans have been equally as vocal.

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X-Men teasers

Year after year, month after month, Marvel has released big events that encompass their entire gallery of characters into some sort of life-altering, crazy event. Within the last few weeks, the publisher revealed they were once again gearing up for big Marvel events this fall -- however it would not be just one. Last week we saw the release of the teasers for Marvel's latest X-Men event -- first there was Schism, and after 'schism' was revealed to be caused by a split within the X-Men (Cyclops and Wolverine) and that Schism would break into an array of new books. Not to be outdone by DC's "new 52 number one's," Marvel will be launching an all new X-Men book, Wolverine and the X-Men #1' this October. The publisher will also be relaunching Uncanny X-Men as a #1 issue, and will make vast changes to the rosters of their X-Men books. We posted all the teaser images here which you can see for yourself. But the new X-Men era isn't the only big event Marvel has cooking.

'Shattered Heroes' event teaser
'Shattered Heroes' event teaser

Last week Marvel released teaser images for their all new upcoming event Shattered Heroes which implied that many of the Avengers would be 'broken' following the Fear Itself event, which is due to conclude this fall. When we put the preview images for those teasers up on Comic Vine, I, like many of you, let out a little groan. Yet another event from Marvel comics.We shouldn't be surprised since big events are just the way the Marvel Universe works, but have we had enough already?

The truth is, Marvel has been revolving many of their biggest and most impactful stories around major story arcs since the 1960's. So we should probably be used to reading them by now, right? Not exactly. Since the beginning of 2001, Marvel started publishing at least twice the number of events per year. Prior to that, Marvel was only doing an event per year. Now, events are intertwined and cross over into a plethora of books and tie-ins -- the repercussions of previous events stumble into new events. For example, Fear Itself will result in Shattered Heroes, and if I have to guess, whatever happens in Shattered Heroes will cause Marvel's next big event which will be introduced probably sometime in January.

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The Amazing Spider-Man #657

The game changer was probably Marvel's release of House of M and Decimation in 2005, which not only changed everything in the X-Men Universe, but the repercussions of that event can still be seen today (and are still referenced) in books like Avengers Children's Crusade. In 2005, Marvel released three events, House of M, Decimation, and Spider-Man: The Other. Secret War which had begun in 2004 flooded into 2005. In 2007 we saw six events, two of which (Civil War and Annihilation) started at the end of 2006 and went into 2007. In 2010 fans witnessed fifteen major Marvel events, five of which started in 2009 and ended in 2010. Its no wonder fans are complaining about the number of events and event crossovers that we are seeing today -- and personally, I think they have a reason to be complaining. Everything feels like a massive comic book event. No longer do Marvel books read like character driven stories that aren't prompted by some massive life-altering catastrophe. We are seeing more and more of "Is this the end of ______?" and less of the stories that focused on the development and nourishment of individual characters. Sure, sometimes the events that take place can change a character and force them to reflect. Take for example the death of Johnny Storm (Fantastic Four #588) which could be considered a crossover (it crossed into Amazing Spider-Man). In Amazing Spider-Man #657 Peter got to reflect on the life and death of Johnny, one of his closest friends. And as beautiful and poignant as it was, does someone always have to die for characters to appreciate them?

I don't blame the publishers for their decision to make these big events the center of their stories given the proof in numbers which books have the most sales. Books that featured the death of Johnny Storm and Spider-Man in Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man #153 revolved around big events. People want to read the issues where the heroes die this crazy death, but not enough people want to read the stories that are told in-between and focus on the development, evolution and growth of these characters.

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Even though the events and event cross-overs draw the biggest numbers, Marvel hasn't yet given up on character driven stories. In fact, I would venture to say that most of my favorite Marvel books out right now are disconnected from big crossover events -- and should probably stay that way. Daredevil, for example, which has been relaunched by Mark Waid is turning out to be an absolutely fantastic title. The book, so far, seems to be self contained, focusing on the return of Matt Murdock to New York City and to his former role as Daredevil. Not only is the story accessible because (so far) the focus has remained solely on Matt's character, but it's fun to read. It's interesting to explore the facets of Matt's character that make him so appealing in the first place.

Daredevil #4
Daredevil #4

Writer Marjorie Liu has been continuing to deliver a highly entertaining series with the release of X-23. X-23 focuses solely on the character development of X-23 -- even with all of the crazy shake-ups happening in the X-Men universe right now (Schism) X-23 has remained unscathed and has (so far) survived the wrath of the cross-over. It continues to be a book that revolves almost entirely on the different aspects of Laura's character, and how she deals with coming to terms with who and what she is.

As far as team books go, Uncanny X-Force has been almost entirely disconnected from any other cross-over event at Marvel, save for a Fear Itself mini-series which had absolutely nothing to do with the Uncanny X-Force ongoing title by Rick Remender. The story there, while confusing at times for new readers, continues to be totally enthralling. This X-Men team book is god because it has nothing to do with the big events in the Marvel Universe. Only time will tell if the title will remain under the radar and continue to remain separate from the rest of the goings on of the Marvel Universe.

If you have felt like there have been more events and cross-over events at Marvel in the last few years, it's because there have been. But as of right now, it's still good to know that there are still mainstream Marvel books that have not been influenced by these big events, and continue to be books you can go to in order to read a solid character driven story. What do you think of the number of Marvel's big events? Are you more inclined to purchase big event books, or character driven stories?

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They don't have events, they have storyline-by-group. Their books all overlap with each other within certain families. They just opt not to have as many books with their own status quos telling their own stories. I don't like it.

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Marvel does a lot of events but few of them are good.

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They basically said that when they stopped doing events, sales went down, so now we have events again. I don't really mind them because it is good that the Marvel Universe has a sense of being in one world. Typically these events are things that one hero or group of heroes cannot handle. Also these books sell, which is good for the industry. They can also be used to be a starting point for some new readers. 
 
What I don't tend to like is the splinter books like "Fear Itself: Whatever", basically a one off book or series that they could run in the characters actual book instead. Most of these books are never that great, sadly, but they do sell because of the event.

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You can't really compare the number of events Marvel publishes to that of DC.  DC publishes far less than the neverending stream that's being issued from Marvel within any given year, not just year to year.

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To be fair, DC's events usually suck and/or reset the universe... which is coming about every 5 years or less now. 
 
In fact, the only "event" DC's run that is remotely close to Marvel are War of the Green Lanterns and Blackest Night... the latter of which is arguably a ripoff of Marvel Zombies but is even less coherent as many of the heroes died and were turned into zombies... who ate people's hearts for fun.

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@ninjadude853 said:
yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes YES.   I started reading comic right at the end of Secret Invasion, and it just feels like theres ALWAYS some event or other big thing, just once i'd like to experience a little bit of time where all the characters just STAY IN THEIR OWN BOOKS AND LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE FOR AWHILE.
Uh... isn't that like every book outside of the event tie-ins?  And you usually don't even need to read the event to read a good tie-in. 
 
Any Bendis tie-in avengers book is a bad tie-in, FYI.  Sorry. 
 
The only  "bad thing" is that sometimes you don't learn what happened to baddies like Juggernaut or the Thing if you don't read the rest of the event.  But you often don't know what happened to [insert spiderman villain here] after he gets beat, or escapes, in ASM.
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Okay, two things.
A) Yes, Events are getting out of control.
B) Shattered Heroes is NOT an event!  It's like Dark Reign or the Heroic Age!  It's a change in status quo!   Get your act together Comicvine!

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Marvel publishes too many books, but only b/c they over-publish so many characters.  100+ comics would be ok, imo, if there was actually some variety.
 
Also, Marvel quotes their executives too much for the event teasers...do it really matter if it's Axel Alonso or Tom Brevoort who says the "In the future..." quote?

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Yes, yes, one thousand times yes, Marvel needs to tone down the event comics.  It honestly HAS gotten to the point where a series is impossible to appreciate on its own because its characters are constantly being brought into other stories and disrupted from any singular development. 
 
I like that you bring up X-23, Sara, because other than its self-contained cross-over with Daken: Dark Wolverine, that series has been allowed to exist by itself and I think it's much better for it.

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It may be because I started reading comics in the Era of Crossovers, but I like the idea of an interconnected Universe, where the actions of one hero affects the others and events have repercussions on other people living in the same World. On the other hand you can have that without having shocking crossover event after the other

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Sorry; I just realized I don't look for Marvel Series, I look for Marvel Events. Although, I admit I don't really mind because I don't actually buy any of those comics, I get them via Bittorrent. I mean it would be impossible for me to actually follow an event, comics are expensive around here and we don't get all the titles, I mean I can hardly follow two series, never mind a crossover event

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Marvel does publish too many event than it should plus the events are to crashed together. Like Dark Reign to The Heroic Age to Fear Itself.

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Idk I read DC and honestly the back to back blackest night, brightest day, war of the green lanterns was serious GL overkill for me.  Flashpoint wasn't really a big interest for me, although i did like a couple of the Tie Ins.  That being said I loved RIP and Final Crisis was pretty good too, except for the Final Crisis Aftermath books.  But I am kinda sick of crossovers event books so I hope DC gives them a rest for a bit.  Maybe one a year but don't do the back to backs any more.  

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Sometimes the 2 big companies are guilty of this and right not Marvel is doing it. The problem is Fear itself is the big summer event, but there are 2 smaller event going on with Schism with the X-Men an Spider Island. I do not think Marvel is over doing it but they have a terrible sense of timing and these could have been spaced out better.

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They actually do, Marvel has WAY to many Event and Arcs, to be honest they need to focus on one Arc then start the new one...we don't need these "In betweens" stories, mean reason is the cost...your already buying the Main Story why spend 3 to 5 bucks more on the side stories? Why I have a lot more DC comics then Marvel...just to much

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too 
 
And that, america, is why you need to raise taxes.  Edjumicatione

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I'm Pretty new to the world of comics so i havn't touched fear itself or flashpoint. 
 
I'm waiting for the new 52 before I start on DC and fear itself just takes up too many titles. 
 
howveer i have started Spider Island which thankfully is small and self contained though it does stretch into a few other books which i have found to be intresting. 
 
basically Spider Island sized events are good, fear itself sized events are bad when the happen too often, these kind of events should only be once a year because of how much content they have within and how big a deal it should be. but when u get 1 after the other of these big events the impact is just gone.

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All of this crap can be traced back to Fat Joe Q. When he became EIC in 2000, the Marvel U has been going a hundred miles an hour in the wrong direction.

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YOU THINK

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Yes. DC and Marvel both. It's a complete turnoff to new readers.

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Overall, I'd agree that Marvel's gone off the event deep end. I would also say that I read Fear Itself and don't mind that it tied-in with book I'm reading anyway (i.e. Uncanny X-Men, etc.) but I don't buy comics based on events. Characters, stories, and art interest me. If the "big, nothing-will-ever-be-the-same, (OMG EVERYONE DIES) event" is well-written, well-paced, well-penciled, etc: I'm all in. Otherwise... it's a pass. That goes for any publisher. 
 
Full Disclosure: I'm reading X-Men Schism too but I'm kinda on the fence about it so far.

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They have been but I still think they have more interesting characters on the whole compared to DC Comics who seems to always want me to give a crap about some golden age character who is incredibly lame and stupid.

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Does Marvel publish too many event books? Short answer "Yes." Long answer "Heeeeeeellllllll Yes"
 
They publish way too many event books and honestly it's going to hurt the comic economy, because they put these events out there to bring in "new readers" and what they don't realize is that if every single year they do a big event that "changes everything" then all the long time fans who enjoyed the stories that had been building up for years but were wiped clean by these events will be turned off. 
 
But more than that, everyone has an "event limit" in their minds. When an event "changes everything" and has a major catastrophe (cap dying, hulk destroying new york, cap dying again) it raises the bar for the next one and it makes us readers more dulled and jaded to these big events, so next year they have to up the ante again. Then after that they have to up the ante once more. And then ultimately you leave yourself with one of two possible outcomes. Either you will up everyone's ante so much, and make them so jaded, that you won't be able to reach where you placed that bar, or everyone will eventually just say "yeah I've seen enough" and you'll hit their event limit and they won't feel the need to read anymore. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was why comic stores like Atomic Comics collapsed over night with no warning, because once a company hits that "event limit" the population just says "that's it for me."

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@Cafeterialoca said:

Okay, two things. A) Yes, Events are getting out of control. B) Shattered Heroes is NOT an event! It's like Dark Reign or the Heroic Age! It's a change in status quo! Get your act together Comicvine!

I think most people would see a "change in the status quo" as being an "event."

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I think the biggest problem is that Marvel puts in waaaaay too many tie ins to each storyline.  
If you look at Dark Reign it had nearly 150 issues.  Before that Secret Invasion had 95, Civil War had 107.  After Dark Reign, Siege had 76 tie in's despite the main story being short.  Shadowland itself didn't even include the entire Marvel universe and it had 31 issues.  
 
Compare that to Blackest Night which had a total of 75 issues, less Siege despite the main storyline being twice as long.  
Flashpoint has about 58 issues right now.
 
I'm not going to say that DC doesn't do this, Return of Bruce Wayne had more tie ins then Shadowland did.  But loading a plethora of worthless tie ins is something Marvel does on a more consistent basis. 
 
If they didn't include so many tie in's these stories would be easier to keep up with and wouldn't convoluted the main storyline. 

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This is a really great question. 
 
I love the main event books, but find that I hate the tie-ins.  They're rarely anything worth mentioning, and almost never add anything significant to the main event. 
 
I also love the character/team-driven books, and think they should be more prevalent than anything else.   
 
So what's the answer?  Continue with the big events, but cut out the tie-in BS.  You can have a ton of books on the market without all of them being tied together.

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YES! A 100x times YES! When 3/4 of your year is nothing but events that's a sing that there are to many going on.

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Big events lose their impact if they happen all the time. I used to love big 5th week events when I was younger, because they were rare and therefore more special. I have a hard time caring nowadays, especially when one big event immediately slides into the next.

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@labarith said:
Brightest Day was, largely, just a "Heroic Age" for DC.
Problem is, Brightest Day came first. So how does that work again?
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@CombatSpoon86 said:
@insheepsclothes: Definitely agree with you there. Self contained events in their own titles are fine ( Spider-Island) but event's that have to involve more than 2-3 ongoing titles is just too much for me. 
There's no real reason for T'Challa to be involved in Spider-Island...but a six armed Panther has an inherent appeal I can't deny! To back up Bab's point, Black Panther will tie into Fear Itself for 3 issues. Then Spider-Island for god knows how long. Now Liss has done a fine job of making FI integrate well enough into his title. But I can't help but wonder what he'd be doing if it wasn't for these events. Another Example is how Fear Itself is affecting Uncanny X-men. Gillen's first issue was crap and the second and third vastly improved. The first read like he had no real idea how to work his story around both Schism/Fear Itself. Like I could see shades of what he wanted to write but quite hadn't figured out how to while hitting the editorial beats and remaining true to his original vision. it'd be nice to see Marvel fall back on all the crossover/tie in event madness and let the characters/stories breathe and grow into the the "massive changes" that occur monthly for at least a year or so. I'm all for self/family contained crossovers but the crisis of the month/year/day stuff is inane and annoying beyond belief. 
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I'm tried of events, they all follow the same script and it would be nice for writers to be able to write their own comics for a change

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Too much events are really tiring... I guess they're "Ok" from big nerds and collectors' pov. But if you just wanna read some stories with character you like, it's really tiring. Plus it keeps shaking the status quo OUTSIDE those characters' main books... which is silly if you ask me.
(killing/changing a character should be left to such character's own title - if he does have one)

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@ReVamp said:
Marvel publishes too many events. Period. DC publishes less and many times they aren't "events" but instead "crossovers".
True!
For me the difference is that Marvel focuses on the events impact towards the universe,while Dc is more about a characters actions and the effects that may occur towards others.
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@Dakens son said:
@ReVamp said:
Marvel publishes too many events. Period. DC publishes less and many times they aren't "events" but instead "crossovers".
True! For me the difference is that Marvel focuses on the events impact towards the universe,while Dc is more about a characters actions and the effects that may occur towards others.
Which is why, to me personally anyways, DC Events are about one hundred times better. (I mean they're actual READEABLE). Woot Woot.
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It's got ridiculous in the last few years, at least they used to have a bit of a break in between. The biggest thing I object to is how the events have to bleed into so many unnecessary areas of the marvel universe and encompass otherwise good titles turning them into nothing more than shallow tie ins, Thor was substantially better when it was just off on its own before siege and just after. I just don't see the need to keep pushing out massive story after massive story it just leaves you desensitised.  

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@ReVamp said:
@Dakens son said:
@ReVamp said:
Marvel publishes too many events. Period. DC publishes less and many times they aren't "events" but instead "crossovers".
True! For me the difference is that Marvel focuses on the events impact towards the universe,while Dc is more about a characters actions and the effects that may occur towards others.
Which is why, to me personally anyways, DC Events are about one hundred times better. (I mean they're actual READEABLE). Woot Woot.
Now I disagree!
Both companies have readable events,marvel just have more massive content in comparison with dc which is more personal(as for the heroes complexity)
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One of Marvel's problems isn't event titles it's multiple big event titles running at the same time, thus meaning a lot of smaller ones hold no continuity or weight. I remember sinking a lot of money into Chaos War which basically had a big reset button at the end, I felt cheated on the other end of that..while at the end of Civil War there was a huge impact on the world, just like House of M..both of which still have lasting effects..

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ok, i can vouch for BOTH being the fact that i am NOW a DC fan and a FORMER marvel fan. DC's books, well, EVENTS are all SINGULAR and affect the entire company sometimes. i began reading DC when identity crisis came out. i went to get crisis on infinite earths and read that to begin to see how the modern era came to be. but, after that i read all the other books and they had something which happened in the event books which spilled over into the other books. blackest night was a perfect example of this. it effected EVERYONE. with marvel, they tease these books for months, sometimes years ahead(last big event book i read was civil war) but they just keep on coming. civil war, then house of m. house of m led to decimation, which led to other stuff. the only singular events i last read from them were world war hulk, the x-events "the messiah trilogy"  messiah complex, war and second coming and that is it. you can not really read a marvel book and not have to take notes to try to backtrack. there are too many books to follow. can't do it anymore. 

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well its all bc of disney buy it I feel like they are pushing marvel to expand the brand..... they dont understand it makes the product watered down...

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I usually like At least a one big event every year, but at the pace now it is a bit much. I do enjoy them though.

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DC has lots of big events, true, but nowhere near as much as Marvel.  For the past decade it's been event after event after even.  We had Civil War and right afterwards Secret Invasion, which went into Dark Reign, then into Siege, then we had the Heroic Age, now Fear Itself, and now this Shattered Heroes crap. 
 
Enough is enough.  I for one am sick of it and am seriously considering dropping Marvel entirely because of it.  It's too much.  Too many big events, not enough time for stories that are actually entertaining and character focus and development.  Marvel needs to catch a clue and back off the big events or fans are going to start to walk...even the hardcore fans like myself.
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At the end of the day Marvel is trying to sucker people into buying as many comics as they can shove down their throat.  I fear they are rapidly reaching the point of diminishing returns with people struggling to get all the corresponding issues.  If they keep running up the numbers people are going to notice they could get a playstation and a bucket of games for the same price ...

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Yes... wait what that too simple? I do love a good event but I hate it when they feel like they are a stepping stone to the next event. I love it when the hero's world is shaken up but it just feels forced when it happens a few months apart from each other and they do not let the character get settle back in.   A reader should say to themselves " hey! we need a another shake up!" not "oh not another one"

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Its just Marvel's focus, look at the movies as an example. Marvel is telling the story of the marvel world. there is barely even the illusion of single ongoing books outside of spider-man, as its all being miexed into world changing even after event.  
 
That's fine if you like great operatic epic storytelling. It gets tiresome if you just want to focus on a single chracter for half a dozen issues.

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Marvel just seems to have their heads up their asses thinking these events are their gift to the people. They just jump from one to the other, it has gotten ridiculous to read. They have 3 running now, but I think Spider-Island is being handled the best, if only because, you don't have to buy a book called Spider-Island to get the story, it's in ASM and has optional tie-ins, like what Sinestro Corps was for GL and GLC. With keeping the main Spider-Island story in Spider-Man, I think that is somewhat a service to the fans, but aside from that, there doesn't seem to be a graceful way to do an event. If it's a cross over, people are unhappy because they might have to buy books they otherwise wouldn't read to progress the story, but if it's a separate book and ties into the other books, people complain they have to drop $3.99 for it. So, more character focussed events sticking to that characters book would be great, don't make it bleed too heavily into satellite books though.

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In my opinion, Marvel does crank out the events like crazy which in turn leaves us, the fans, to try to play catch up with the issues and the information that is getting released. Like for me, when Fear Itself hit, I was keeping up pretty damn good... until every single other tie-in came out and then, not even weeks later, came more news of the next, oh, three events. I love Marvel because of the sense of realism I get from mostly every issues, character, and event, but I also love to enjoy their work which lately I haven't been able to do because of all the buzz about the next events (that seem to already be happening) rather than the one that is happening in order for the next to transpire. So, yes, I do agree that Marvel is putting out too many events at one instance.
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I'm sorry but the people on here buying all the books, then complaining about all the events marvel is pushing are hypocrites pure and simple. You are feeding what you consider a problem then complaining about that problem which makes you come off as schizophrenic since you hate the events yet you buy them up. Marvel is essentially looking at this and going..."okay people are complaining about the events yet they are buying them since are sales are still up. We could stop the big events but are sales would most likely drop so we will keep pushing big events since even though people are complaining about it they will buy the books."

If you all really wanted to get marvel to stop doing so many big events just boycott buying their comics that feature all of these events in them. When sales start dropping marvel will look to its marketing department and fans response and change tactics and not push a ton of events. In the meantime I wouldn't be getting angry about this or DC's reboot since there other comics out their besides the ones marvel and dc publish. Since I personally can't stand big events and don't like starting over from scratch throwing everything away I've been checking out other titles instead. I finally got around to picking up all the issues of the Boys and have got to say I really have enjoyed it so far. Hell I even started reading Vampirella a comic I never thought I would touch since I saw the movie (it was beyond horrible) and thought the comic would be terrible. Instead I've found it so far to be not bad from what I've read of the first 8 issues of the relaunch.

Anyway that's just my two cents for whatever its worth.

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Its what fans do :3 Support your fandom <3

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I just wish Fear Itself would end. I found Secret Invasion more interesting.

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Plainly said, yes. 
 
I want good stories. But If I want a big, character driven event, I want it to be in one or two ongoing mags. Or in a few miniseries. Like New X-men and Death of Captain America.