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Does Batman Always Win? Results: Taskmaster vs. Batman

Do we think Batman or Taskmaster would win? And more importantly, who did the community side with and why? Also, writer Fred Van Lente chimes in!

The Comic Vine community has declared a winner after a week of voting and debate, but first -- if you don't mind -- I'd like to share my thoughts on the match. And if you do mind, you can always scroll past my section, yes? Anyway, this has been a battle that has been heavily demanded for quite some time now and understandably so. Sure, Taskmaster acts like a total jobber from time to time, but he also has some very impressive showings and his skillset makes him incredibly dangerous in a random encounter. That said, do I think Wayne will beatdown Taskmaster or will the Marvel mercenary defeat the Caped Crusader?

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Taskmaster is a dude who has the means to beat Batman in a random encounter. He's sporting the skill of some of the deadliest and most versatile characters in his universe, has relatively generic yet effective weapons and has superb accuracy. His pain tolerance and strength may not be up there with Bruce's, but he's damn fast and has solid reflexes -- yes, that's without his double-speed, too. The guy has danced around Venom with ease and even swatted away bullets with a chain. He's had the skill to humiliate the likes Cat and has given Captain America very commendable fights. On paper, the guy has most certainly what it takes to surprise Bruce in a random encounter and take a slight edge. It's pretty much a clear cut case of a villain who would defeat Batman in the first encounter, but Batman would surely take a rematch. But then we have to take into account the fact they're in character, and Taskmaster doesn't exactly have the best history when it comes to how he acts in combat.

When you're facing a tactical genius, it's not really the smartest idea to babble about your ability and show off. This is unfortunately something Taskmaster is unaware of and has been seen doing on more than a few occasions. If he does so, it would absolutely lead to his downfall against such a skilled detective and adaptable hand-to-hand fighter with so many devices on him. Now, there's obviously no guarantee Taskmaster will act this way every time in a random encounter, but based on his history, I think it's fair to say this will be a big factor more often than not.

Not one of Flash's finer moments.
Not one of Flash's finer moments.

"Why does it matter if he brags and explains about his talents? He's still got the skill of Cap, Bullseye, Elektra and more!" Well, like I said above, Batman is one of the most tactical characters in the DC universe and absolutely among the most skilled. After all, we even saw him recognize and act accordingly when it came to utilizing all kinds of different styles during an encounter with Wrath. Simply put: he has the means to cope with a majority of whatever Taskmaster throws his way. A pure melee contest between the two would take ages and one clean connect with Taskmater's blade can turn the tide, but Batman is by no means limited to unarmed and melee weapons here, is he? Given Batman's own formidable degree of skill, brilliant mind, array of equipment and Taskmaster's own history against characters around Batman's level (i.e. Captain America, Daredevil), Wayne outsmarting Tasky just seems too likely to me. Additionally, when fighting someone with such a wide knowledge of hand-to-hand techniques, it's fair to assume Taskmaster would prolong the battle to observe his enemy and pick up as many new moves as possible. Again, this would be unwise and continue to reduce his chances of victory against Batman.

Overall, Taskmaster certainly has what it takes to bring down the Dark Knight in a random encounter, but I think his personality will lead to his downfall as the fight progresses and unfortunately for him, that's something which tends to pop up and simply cannot be overlooked. Throw in Batman's gifted mind, wide variety of styles to implement and a healthy variety of equipment and I have to give Batman the slight edge after a VERY good fight.

Gregg's Verdict: Batman 6/10

But who cares what I think? What about the Comic Vine community? Well, it turns out they agree with me. And if you're going to scream "POPULARITY CONTEST," perhaps you should instead double your efforts in the poll thread next time. Drop scans, make compelling arguments, lure in more voters, etc. There's obviously no denying that popularity will always play some kind of role in polls, but you do indeed have the power to make a difference.

Comic Vine's Verdict: Batman wins with a decent edge. Here's the poll results:

  • Batman: 52%
  • Taskmaster: 40%
  • Too close to call: 7%
BAT-KICK FOR THE WIN!
BAT-KICK FOR THE WIN!

Viner Argument in favor of Batman is by god_spawn

"I honestly think Batman wins. Why? Well, a few simple factors, but I'll start with why Taskmaster could potentially beat him. The primary reason is skill. Taskmaster is easily a top tier competitor with plenty of tricks in his bag. When you get away from the stupid things like not beating Deadpool since, well those fights were terrible, and being afraid of Moon Knight (I just find these stupid but we can argue that mess later), he's done his fair share of feats. He's stalemated Captain America twice, has fought Daredevil a few times (I'll get to why he lost later), he's beaten up Black Widow and Headsman with his hands chained, and he's held his own against both Captain Americas in the form of Steve and Bucky at once by himself. He's hit the likes of Spider-Man using a ricochet cane using Bullseye's aiming ability. He's knocked down giant Skrull Pym, Stature, and Antman like characters using a single shield throw and ricochet ability and then proceeded to knock them out via nerve cluster shots to the neck, demonstrating a knowledge of some pressure points. They were not looking, however, it was still an impressive feat, IMO. You add into this his equipment, it's sort of versatile, not Batman versatile, but it's simple yet effective. Between his sword, shield, bow, and baton. Add in a few trick arrows as well and he can fight on a few ranges. Add in Taskmaster's ability to pick up on fighting styles and even predict some, he is going to give Bats one helluva fight.

We all know Bruce's skill and stats. Punching through bazooka proof glass. Blocking bullets with his gauntlets. Dodging machine gunfire. Knowing 127 different martial arts. He knows 400+ ways to incapacitate someone without spilling blood. He's proven to be one of DC's top tiers. Add in his extremely versatile bag of tricks from different batarangs, sonics, cryopellets, flashbangs, different types of gases, etc.

So I see Bruce walking away from this because of one major factor: Taskmaster's ego is huuuuuge. He's lost to Daredevil twice because of it. He should have bested Moon Knight, but he got cocky, I would however, disregard the part about him being scared of Moon Knight. That part just doesn't sit right with me, but he still has ran away from some fights before, regardless. You see, Taskmaster goes into a lot of fights thinking he has them in the bag. Just because he can predict styles and has all of this skill he walks around like he is the best, but all of this has never made him untouchable when it comes to other top tier martial artists. And Bruce does have his own style to him so Tasky might enjoy taking some of his moves and that could hinder him like it has before. Bruce is the exact opposite. Bruce is proficient and precise. So while I honestly might give Taskmaster the edge in skill, I do see Bruce's skill being perfectly capable of facing Taskmaster and with the terrain being a city (perfect for the Dark Knight) and his mindset and versatility in his equipment will end up carrying him to a slim majority of 6/10. If this were a serious Taskmaster though, I'd probably say the inverse, but for now I say the Bats takes it."

Also, we have a special guest chiming in!

Fred Van Lente, writer of TASKMASTER

"Depending on how you wanted your story to play out, I could see either scenario working plausibly. Since Batman's superpower seems to be that he's got the foresight and planning ability of a 1990s movie serial killer, one way he could win would be that he's always had a fighting style he's kept hidden from the news cameras, so he's able to spring something totally unexpected on Taskmaster when he least expects it.

On the other hand, Taskmaster is one of the rare villains intelligent and practical enough to avoid taking on Batman unless he had no other choice. Even then, I'd hope he would avoid confronting Batman directly. He'd use one of his many weapons from a distance or send his henchmen students to wear Bruce down until Tasky thought it was safe to enter the fray.

Not that he'd be the only villain to ever try that and fail, of course "

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Psst! Here's a little something for the people who really wanted Taskmaster to win.

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I didn't get the chance to chime in on this one (busy, busy week) but I went with too close to call.

As many have stated, between is photo-reflexes and plethora of combat against some of Marvel's most capable, Taskmaster's ego is really his downfall. How many have prattled on to the Bat only to have him steal victory from them with those precious seconds? And while Taskmaster has simple equipment, he is definitely more than well versed in them and can use them to near-perfect efficiency. Batman's is far more modern and expansive, but that does not mean it is automatically better than Taskmaster's. At the risk of making a comparison, Spartans only used four weapons in their army but trained with those four to perfection.

The real hinge is which Taskmaster shows up. If he fights even halfway serious, going for a win, I think he can pull it off. If he shows up, runs his mouth, looking to embarrass the Bat and inflate his already massive ego? Batman nails him.

This is by no means an expansive explanation, just a quick aside as to why I personally think it was too close to call.

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Taskmaster's fight with Elektra has to be one of the most misunderstood fights in comics.

He didn't beat her with skill. He isn't better than she is. She was beating the $h!t out of him and he couldn't land a shot until he switched to Matt's style. She even says something along the lines of "It threw me for one fatal second" and he capitalizes on her distraction.

When they fight again after she comes to terms with Matt and their drama she KO's him in two strikes. I read a lot about how he has this huge ego and that fight supports it haha.

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I am just pissed at Marvel, yet again. They have screwed up the Taskmaster so much with his memory problems being tied to his skills. He can't remember his wife? He can't remember his daughter?
He remembers Constrictor but not his wife?
He seems to remember Norman Osborn for long enough to be in charge of the Initiative and get a seat, albeit as a 'yes man', on the Cabal, but can't remember his daughter?

The destruction of the comic Marvel Universe under Quesada has been dramatic and near complete.

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Batman is starting to become overrated

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To me, Taskmaster is one of the closest matches we would have on here with Batman. Taskmaster adapts to his enemies, and can use their abilities against him. His combat skill is near unbeatable. I mean, he was an Avenger's teacher for a while. (Loved The Initiative!)

His ultimate downfall is his personality. Batman would realize Task was mimicking him, and change everything to throw him off.

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. And he's blatantly stated he knows 463 ways to incapacitate someone without spilling blood.

That was in the Kevin Smith miniseries, right? Was that canon?

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Read what the staff write before says nosense,at least try to do a good debate next time

The voice of the people has spoken, but they are blinded by fandom.

Seriously, Taskmaster.

But who cares what I think? What about the Comic Vine community? Well, it turns out they agree with me. And if you're going to scream "POPULARITY CONTEST," perhaps you should instead double your efforts in the poll thread next time. Drop scans, make compelling arguments, lure in more voters, etc. There's obviously no denying that popularity will always play some kind of role in polls, but you do indeed have the power to make a difference.

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@cameron83 said:

@butros said:

When has Batman stalemated Deathstroke? Also Taskmaster and Deathstroke are different imho.

and the fanboyism is strong in here.

Mainly by biased ignorant Batfans that blindly support the character without a valid argument (usually by underestimating the other character severely and overestimating batman by making him do things he has never done...and when he has lost to much worse).

But anyway,I agree completely with the verdict and the reasoning.

It runs strong no matter what the character, my friend. It's not solely "Batfans" that are guilty. It just depends on the day and the person.

There comes a point when you just have to accept that it happens, and get over it. Because simply "reacting" to it only serves to stoke the fire of flamewar.

Sadly this is true...even taskmaster has fanboys...even though,before today,I didn't even know he had fans lol

Not saying he isn't popular or awesome...but I didn't even think he was THAT well-known.

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Nope, don't buy it. In a first time fight with no prep time, Taskmaster would be a complete match for Bats in a fight. It would pretty much be a stalemate in a physical confrontation. It's Batman vs Batman.

Oh yeah, except one of the Batmans has a gun... Batman vs Batman with a gun. Batman with a frikkin' gun wins.

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Nope, don't buy it. In a first time fight with no prep time, Taskmaster would be a complete match for Bats in a fight. It would pretty much be a stalemate in a physical confrontation. It's Batman vs Batman.

Oh yeah, except one of the Batmans has a gun... Batman vs Batman with a gun. Batman with a frikkin' gun wins.

Except, since Batman never fights with guns, he's going to be at a disadvantage because he's not used to them... therefore Batman wins.

(sorry, I just had to be difficult like that)

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@k4tzm4n: BoTW someone who's not in the bat family .....bloodshot vs deadpool..ninjak vs psylock ....ironman vs X O manowar....hit girl vs x-23....invincible vs superboy..etc what about villain vs villain?

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@kcvic said:

@k4tzm4n: BoTW someone who's not in the bat family .....bloodshot vs deadpool..ninjak vs psylock ....ironman vs X O manowar....hit girl vs x-23....invincible vs superboy..etc what about villain vs villain?

Fear not, the next one will have no bat characters. Can't have 'em 3 weeks in a row!

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@lesterlawton: Captain america is nothing compared to Batman and neither is Taskmaster.

Besides,Taskmaster beating Cap is likely PIS.

You struck me as a batman fanboy in your 1st comment....but now, you're worst...

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Why do these encounters always happen at night? Why can't both parties be teleported to an arena where they can both clearly see each other, and cannot use the terrain to any advantage? If Batman is in any urban area at night, he has an edge. Also, make it happen at random. No prep time... Any hero can win with prep time.

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@nrgb2814: All of the city and building lights remain on and it's not like Taskmaster has never fought in a city at night. Also, these are ALWAYS a random encounter.

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@k4tzm4n: Oh, ok! I must have just skimmed over that part to get to the results. Hahaha! Sorry for being a bother!

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Frankly, stealth wouldn't be much of an issue. To an extent, perhaps, but Taskmaster has dominated Daredevil's blind-fighting style, so he could pull off fighting with lights-out.

That being said, the reasoning by god_spawn is solid. I like Taskmaster and all, but truly his ego is his downfall.

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I voted Taskmaster. Not only could he match Batman's every move, but he's also willing to kill.

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@beserkerfury: Most of Batman's victories (outside of random street thugs) involve PIS, otherwise he would have died years ago.

This is ironic coming from a guy with the username Lesterlawton,supporting Taskmaster and with a Deadshot avi.There's no such thing as photographic reflexes so I guess that makes Tasky PIS,and it's impossible to kill someone with a toothpick so Lester is PIS too.

Batman wins,going by feats alone he stomps,in theory he wins after a good fight.

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I voted for Taskmaster, because I honestly thought he could win in a fight since he can change up his moves. Though I will agree that he does have a terrible, big ego.

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batman does NOTwin all his fights. do I have to remind yinz of bane and/or knightfall saga?

it could turn into a stand-still. nobody has ever thought of that Damien wayne is taskmasters true son from another mother?

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@iridium: I think Taskmaster remembers anything that has to do with combat. He can remember "Constricter" but not the men they both were before. Their time with SHIELD and things of that nature. He can remember fighting Cap and Spidey, but not be sure if he prefers Salmon to Steak.

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People need to stop bumming batman, it makes me sick!!!!! taskmaster wins, end of.

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Winning!

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First of all,anyone who calls fanboys those who disagree with the result,are retarted.The whole point of these fights is the honest exchange of opinions and angles of thought.Those who cant understand that,are the real fanboys.

Also,my opinion in this result is that it laid on the table the most stupid of reasons why Taskmaster loses.In the Taskmaster miniseries,I dont remember him fighting for the money.He fought for a purpose.Plus,with this new condition of him losing memory of everything,makes that statement even more hilarious.Also,it was said that Taskmaster will try to study his opponent(Batman) and give him time to prepare a strategy.I can recall many fights were Taskmaster didnt give time to his oponents.Did he give time to Electra?Did he give time to The Avengers?To Captain America or Bucky maybe? NO! This whole "Does Batman Always Win" is mostly a fan tribute to Batman.Even if Batman doesnt stand a chance,everyone will say "but he is a genius so he will find a way to win" in the same fashion I can say "Taskmaster will draw his bow and stick an arrow between Batman's eyes,just because he can.

The saddest thing is that Taskmaster never got the recongition he deserved cause of guys like you.He could be a major villain with a huge list of comic stories for him.If you wanna call me a fanboy,do it.I dont care.Sit down and think for a while what I said before you turn all aggressive on me

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@wavemotioncannonI disagree with the outcome. I think Taskmaster could win the majority against Batman in a random encounter. People keep harping on Batman figuring out TMs copying his moves and ignore the fact HE ALREADY knows enough styles to beat Bats before the fight even began. This man has fought or studied the cream of the crop of martial artists in the MU and is well equipped to beat Batman. Even without the weapons generating gauntlets , his standard equipment is more than enough to take on Bats not counting the "double time" skill. Batman could definitely win the rematch but in a random encounter , arrogant or not Taskmaster is up to the job.

Im so 100% with you here.That's exactly what I believe its going to happen.But hey,Batman always wins man.You cant win over the fanboys.

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@metalpsips: First of all,anyone who calls fanboys those who disagree with the result,are retarted.

*next post*

Im so 100% with you here.That's exactly what I believe its going to happen.But hey,Batman always wins man.You cant win over the fanboys.

Uh... okay.

And I'M the reason Taskmaster is treated like a fool (by letting his mentality get in the way) in many instances? Funny, I never knew I had such power over Marvel's writers. Also, just a heads up, the writer who chimed in and implied Taskmaster would lose a direct encounter? Yeah, that's the dude who wrote the very Taskmaster limited-series you cited, by the way.

As for this segment "being a fan service" to Batman: have you read the other segments I've written? I provide them at the bottom of the page for a reason, after all. He hardly wins every time and I think it's irrational to call BS on Taskmaster vs. Batman at least being a close fight where personality and tactical intellect could play big roles.

@umbrafeline said:

batman does NOTwin all his fights. do I have to remind yinz of bane and/or knightfall saga?

it could turn into a stand-still. nobody has ever thought of that Damien wayne is taskmasters true son from another mother?

No one is saying he wins all of his fights?

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Seeing how close the votes were and then think of the popularity which in my opinion counts a lot here I think most people who actually thought about here before choosing Taskmaster won.

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LOL at that image with Taskmaster impaling Bats with a sword.

Kudos to Microsoft Paint!:D

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Everyone Else > Batman. Except Taskmaster of course.

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Everyone Else > Batman. Except Taskmaster of course.

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@k4tzm4n: I'm sorry. I tried to like Batman! I really did :'( He just isn't my cup of tea it seems.

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@k4tzm4n: I'm sorry. I tried to like Batman! I really did :'( He just isn't my cup of tea it seems.

It's totally fine if you don't like Batman. You're entitled not to, after all. But my disappointed clip is because I thought your post was implying everyone but Taskmaster beats Batman -- beats as in combat, not likability. My bad!

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@k4tzm4n:

Im sorry mister,but first of all there is no reason to be all ironic to me.I was polite enough to explain my thesis.Also,the first part of my comment you quoted,was directed to a couple of users who spammed that "fanboy / fandome" words to people who had some honest disagreements with the whole battle.

Also,my dissapointment with the battle is not with the verdict,but with the reasons you based it on.The fact that the writer of Taskmaster agrees with that,doesnt mean that what you based the battle on,was the right thing.

What also makes me wonder,is how you didnt even TRY even the slightest bit,to make this fight between those two a bit more detailed.You had Batman facing a hell of guy who would offer a SPECTACULAR fight with great comebacks and surprises,and you chose to just say "Ok Tasky is good,but you know,he talks too much,and Batman is a genius and will find a way to end it" and that was it! You dont even respect your own Batman VS topics.

The only thing I can imagine making you hostile is that part of my comment where I said "never got the recongition he deserved cause of guys like you" but this is my fault,as I didnt make it clear that Iwas not referring to you,but to the whole Batman fanbase who just support Batman without even thinking.Im sorry for that one,my bad.

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batgirl (cassandra) has muscle memory and NOT the skills of cap, spidey, daredevil, elektra and others and has beaten batman, you telling me taskmaster wouldnt win? please

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@metalpsips:

Im sorry mister,but first of all there is no reason to be all ironic to me.I was polite enough to explain my thesis.

I don't know about that. You're calling people "retarded" (how about you don't do that anymore?) if they call someone a fanboy and then literally less than 10 minutes later, you bold and quote someone who implies people who vote for Batman are fanboys. I'd say that's totally worth calling out, wouldn't you? How about you try to just totally strip personal attacks out of debates because they have no weight in them at all?

Also,the first part of my comment you quoted,was directed to a couple of users who spammed that "fanboy / fandome" words to people who had some honest disagreements with the whole battle.

So calling them fanboys and retarded is a reasonable response because...? If someone posts something blatantly false, prove them wrong with facts, not insults. At any rate, I'm happy to move on from this subject.

Also,my dissapointment with the battle is not with the verdict,but with the reasons you based it on.The fact that the writer of Taskmaster agrees with that,doesnt mean that what you based the battle on,was the right thing.

I'm well aware of that, but when one of your key points is written by a certain writer and said writer disagrees with your verdict, it doesn't help much. That's my point.

What also makes me wonder,is how you didnt even TRY even the slightest bit,to make this fight between those two a bit more detailed.You had Batman facing a hell of guy who would offer a SPECTACULAR fight with great comebacks and surprises,and you chose to just say "Ok Tasky is good,but you know,he talks too much,and Batman is a genius and will find a way to end it" and that was it! You dont even respect your own Batman VS topics.

I'm pretty sure the four+ paragraphs I spent talking about this fight beg to differ, but hey, you're entitled to think that if you want.

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Personally I still give Tasky the edge, maybe I'm overestimating him but I've seen him adapt pretty well in his mini series when he fought Red Shirt.

Also I might be underestimating how well Batman's gadgets would work against Taskmaster's sword and shield.

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@decoyelite said:

Personally I still give Tasky the edge, maybe I'm overestimating him but I've seen him adapt pretty well in his mini series when he fought Red Shirt.

Also I might be underestimating how well Batman's gadgets would work against Taskmaster's sword and shield.

Yeah, that was definitely an awesome feat, man. It's too bad he's not handled like that on a more frequent basis.

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BS, Taskie takes this one too bad i was too late for the poll not that it made a difference.

That's the spirit!

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batgirl (cassandra) has muscle memory and NOT the skills of cap, spidey, daredevil, elektra and others and has beaten batman, you telling me taskmaster wouldnt win? please

Wasn't Batman's fight with Cass just a sparring session? I don't remember him pulling out any gadgets and I can't remember why they were fighting exactly.

Anyway Cass's powers work differently than Taskmasters. Cass predicts based on movements while Taskmaster duplicates and develops counters.

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@k4tzm4n: Yeah, that was the best bit of the mini, didn't like his new original all that much though.

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@k4tzm4n: BS, Taskie takes this one too bad i was too late for the poll not that it would make a difference Batman is way more well known than Taskmaster so no surprise Batman won by popularity.

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Ya Bats takes it. I didnt see the Kraven vs Batman whats up with that?

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@k4tzm4n: BS, Taskie takes this one too bad i was too late for the poll not that it would make a difference Batman is way more well known than Taskmaster so no surprise Batman won by popularity.

Batman only had 52% so actually a few more votes for Taskmaster could have made a big impact.
Although assuming that everyone voted for Bats because they know who he is seems a bit silly to me given that this is a comic book site and Taskmaster isn't exactly an indie character IMO.

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@k4tzm4n: I called retards those who call others fanboys for no real reason.Those who are fanboys should be called fanboys.

Also,about the 4 paragraphs.Yes,its 4 paragraphs and well done to you for spending time and effort writing them,but the point is not the size,but the quality.In those 4 paragraphs you should analyze more than those 2-3 shallow things,dont you think? The funny thing is that I aknowledge that its all well written but with no real depth in it(my opinion at least)

Just to make this straight.Dont you honestly thing that you overlooked that Tasky doesnt always show that kind of behaviour to which you based his defeat on?In general (although you said that you aknowledge that in other ocassions Tasky has various behaviours) you chose to give the edge to Batman just for the sake that Tasky sometimes (and based on the writer) has a huge ego.In "Siege: The Initiave" that was not the case for example.Also,you missed a great opportunity to give Batman a challenge against the best MU martial artist and in the contrary,you said a couple of words and suddenly Batman is the winner.

In my eyes this fight would be like this
Taskmaster reads Batman for a while to see what type of fighter he is,he decides what fighting styles to use against him,he fights against him,observes his moves and prepares counter-attacks in case Batman gets a chance.Batman doesnt get a clue that Taskmaster copies him (moreover,Taskmaster doesnt always brag about his photographic reflexes to his opponents).Batman decides to go on the aggressive,Taskmaster knows the move and counters. Thats a simple battle scenario that could happen in any Taskmaster story.I just believe that Batman as much as skilled he is,he cant fight against someone who can throw at him a full blast of every top notch's martial artist's move.

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@k4tzm4n:

Dont you honestly thing that you overlooked that Tasky doesnt always show that kind of behaviour to which you based his defeat on?

"Now, there's obviously no guarantee Taskmaster will act this way every time in a random encounter, but based on his history, I think it's fair to say this will be a big factor more often than not."

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@k4tzm4n: I said that I know you took it into consideration,but it makes it a bit unfair to chose to condemn him for something its not sure to happen.I believe this battle should be decided based on the solid characteristics and abilties of the characters through the comics.Things such as behaviour can differ from writer to writer.In the story where Tasky was against Moon Knight,he was shown as a disgusting coward,whereas in the miniseries he was shown as a badass one man army.Thats my point