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Does Batman Always Win? Deadpool vs. Batman

The Merc with a Mouth gets to take on The Dark Knight! Will his healing factor and endless babbling eventually let him break the bat... or will Wayne's skill and technology overcome the pesky A-lister?

This is the "Does Batman Always Win?" I've been itching to write since I first came up with the segment. Yes, it was a dream come true to write about Batman taking on the Ninja Turtles last month, but come on, this is Deadpool we're talking about! I've been a huge fan of Wade for years now, so the thought of him facing off against one of my favorite heroes over at DC is truly exciting and super fun to speculate. While both characters are certainly dangerous, they're essentially polar opposites when it comes to how they operate in combat. Batman's often a man of few words and gets right down to business. Wade Wilson? He's become downright infamous for prolonging fights with skilled characters and driving his opponents insane with a tsunami of banter.

It's go time.

To make sure the segment is neutral, the matches will always be a random encounter (this means neither has knowledge on the other or prep time) and in a generic, unpopulated city setting at night (NOT Gotham). They'll start roughly 50 feet apart, have their standard gear and they will be in character. Naturally, they have the objective to defeat the other character. Just like over in the Battles Forums, the winner will be declared based on who I think takes the most victories in this scenario if it played out 10 times. Additionally, it's worth noting that this segment is treating all pre-New 52 Batman feats as canon (New Earth, of course).

Will Wade's healing factor and physicals let him wear down the Caped Crusader... or will Batman overcome the popular Marvel character?

Fighting Skill

Not an ideal scenario for Bruce.

Unfortunately, Deadpool's goofy nature sometimes takes the wheel and this leads to a rather understandable misconception that he's not too skilled and is ultimately a clown with a healing factor. But, as I just said, it's a misconception. While he's often used as the brunt of a joke thanks to his comedic nature and a healing factor which allows him to take anything and then some, I believe these not-so-flattering examples are outweighed by the moderately skilled to impressively formidable ones. Over the years, Wade Wilson's had the opportunity to endure violent encounters with some of Marvel's biggest and most dangerous names (and if you dare cite Squirrel Girl, just remember she's bested Doom, Thanos, Wolverine and more...).

He's had the talent to give Iron Fist a decent (yet short) encounter twice, he's been able to one-up Bullseye, gone toe-to-toe with Killmonger, flawlessly humiliated Shatterstar, has given Cable hell, held his own against Wolverine numerous times, and, as you likely know by now, is basically Taskmaster's kryptonite because of his sporadic methods. Oh, and best of all? He's kicked Steve Rogers in the junk. I mean, he's also legitimately taken an edge over him in unarmed combat, but an unexpected kick the groin is far more praiseworthy, right?

Ultimately though, Batman is indeed more skilled than him and there's just no disputing that one. While Wade has what it takes to hang with some great characters, Batman not only knows a greater variety of technique, but he's frequently displayed it, too. So, what was the point of me babbling about Wade's skill? It was to prove he's not some chump that Batman will effortlessly smack around... and I'm certain more than a handful of people out there came into this feature with that outcome in mind. Deadpool may not be as exceptional as his opponent in this case, but he has the moves required to at least make it amusing when it comes to this factor.

Edge: Batman

Equipment

A clean conclusion.

Deadpool's equipment is simple yet effective. Blades, firearms, and assorted grenades is usually what the character brings to the table. They're all things the Dark Knight has faced before, and the argument "Wade shoots Batman in the face" is beyond silly and vastly underestimating DC's famous hero. I think more often than not, it's reasonable to believe this is a battle that'll come down to close range. That said, Deadpool certainly has the feats to justify the possibility of tagging Batman or utilizing an unexpected attack with a grenade (his fight with the Great Lakes Avengers, for example). Again, it's not something I view as a large factor or could happen for a majority, but the slight possibility does exist and because of that it is worth noting it could play a role in a handful of matches (at most). While Wade's swords can definitely dish out some major damage to Batman if they connect, they can also potentially be disarmed thanks to Wayne's greater degree of skill.

Meanwhile, the sky is the limit when it comes to Batman's arsenal. Naturally, standard batrangs won't be a factor here, nor will sonics (see Suicide Kings), but there's plenty of other things at Wayne's disposal to hinder or even take down the merc. Deadpool's withstood electric attacks (see Suicide Kings again), but he doesn't simply tank the attack like a boss. It's an assault which is noticeably felt by him, and such an attack would grant Bruce a moment to essentially follow-up as he pleases. Additionally, while Wade can withstand a fair degree of tranqs, he's not immune and he's never proved immune to knock out gas, either. Seeing as Batman recently had no gripe using that against Emperor Penguin (after acid and electric attacks), it's totally a potential outcome upon Batman realizing traditional methods just won't cut it. After all, it's by no means the first time Batman has realized he needs to use the wealthy variety of equipment he keeps on him at all times. Upon seeing Wade's not an ordinary human, I see no reason to believe he'd hesitate using any of these options.

Edge: Batman

Mentality

A realization he could have here, too.

When it comes to Deadpool's mindset in combat, you might as well flip a coin. As much as I'd love to believe Deadpool's always focused on winning, that simply isn't the case. His methods are erratic, and that's really putting it lightly. He's prone to babbling and, while that does throw some characters off their game a good deal, I simply don't see that working with Bruce. We're talking about a man who has numerous villains who are solely focused on trying to mess with his head and use his failures against him.

Unless someone tells Deadpool Batman's parents are dead, I honestly don't see Wade's banter taking a toll on the Justice Leaguer and his pattern of prolonging fights with formidable foes is sadly something that will hurt his odds here, not help him. Every extra second Batman's in the fight grants him the chance to use more of his toys -- and that spells bad news for Wilson.

Edge: Batman

Physicals

Bruce Wayne continues to train excessively and is classified as being peak human. He's moved before gunmen could react, displayed incredible strength feats, and has consistently proven his endurance is nothing short of phenomenal. That said, Wade Wilson is indeed his superior in this regard. Classified as having low level superhuman strength in CABLE & DEADPOOL and being at least enhanced in every other regard, his speed and agility won't be an easy factor for Wayne to handle. Wade has also consistently been able to attack before gunmen can pull the trigger and has a few solid strength feats of his own.

Wade's agility and speed shouldn't be overlooked.

The biggest obstacle here for Batman has to be Deadpool's famous healing factor. It has granted him excellent tolerance to blunt force trauma and he's even been able to operate while enduring considerable damage, including numerous puncture wounds. Now, keep in mind that being unkillable doesn't make one unbeatable. Just because Batman cannot kill Deadpool doesn't mean he can't incapacitate him or eventually knock him out with his technology. He's by no means unstoppable and many characters have displayed this over the years. As Shen Kuei proved, damaging Wade's throat can offer an immediate opening. Yes, Deadpool was having a fanboy moment at the time and gushing over Cat, but the point still remains. Batman's strikes aren't likely to knock him out any time soon, they will certainly be felt. Wade won't be easy to drop at all, but it can be done in due time. Regardless, he's one tough cookie thanks to his healing factor and his enhanced to superhuman level physicals will absolutely play a role.

Edge: Deadpool

Verdict

Man, this is a really toughie for me. I'll confess I'm partially rooting for Deadpool on the inside, but the likelihood of him taking his time against a skilled opponent significantly hurts his odds in this one. That's unfortunate for him because he begins this match with an advantage: Batman not knowing about his healing factor thanks to it being a random encounter. It's a huge factor Wayne isn't immediately expecting and will have to work hard to overcome as the fight progresses. The longer Batman is in this fight, though, the easier it is for him to realize he needs to fully incorporate his technology to end this one. Wayne's not an idiot and this is something he'll definitely do as the fight continues, especially since he has the skill required to hang with Deadpool for a decent amount of time.

Wade gives him one helluva good fight and surely has what it takes to overcome from time to time, but sooner or later, Batman's more than intelligent enough to realize he needs to unleash to be the one left standing. It isn't easy for me to say it, but I'm giving Batman the slight edge thanks to his skill, tactical mind and effective gadgets.

In the end, I think Batman takes 6/10.

Sleep well, Wade.

Good news, Viners! We have two very special guests chiming in on this one!

Gerry Duggan, co-writer of DEADPOOL:

"Batman doesn’t ALWAYS win. He’s 0-2 with his parents for instance. And yes, he was young, but that’s not an excuse. Deadpool could beat Batman. Eventually, Batman would want him to. After listening to Deadpool babble for hours his defeat would be a mercy."

Scott Snyder, writer of BATMAN:

"Oh, Gerry... I think it'd be a good fight, but ultimately I think Batman would take him down pretty handily. That said, I think Wade would make an awesome addition to Arkham and I can't imagine he wouldn't actually enjoy his time there and be quite popular."

Who do you think should win? Speak your mind below!

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Gregg Katzman is a freelance writer for Comic Vine and IGN Entertainment. This is the part where he shamelessly plugs his Google+ and Twitter page in hopes of getting a new follower or two.

203 Comments
Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf

Deadpool should win. Healing factor really makes it hard for Batman to KO him.

Posted by Shallbecomeabattoo

I agree wholeheartedly. If they were both locked in a cell which only opens when one of them dies, Wade would win this, but since this is about a battle that ends in a knockdown and does not need a kill for a win, Bruce takes this. What I would like to know though is if Wade and Joker would like each other!

Posted by PunyParker

Deadpool will surely win!!

-I'M BATMAN

Ok ok,Batman....jeez..

Posted by HellionVulcan

Deadpool for me .

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Posted by akbogert

I actually think Deadpool should win.

One big thing this assessment doesn't seem to have taken into consideration is Wade's fourth wall-breaking capacity. You said "Unless someone tells Deadpool Batman's parents are dead, I honestly don't see Wade's banter taking a toll on the Justice Leaguer" but no one would need to, because he's Deadpool, so he would know to make fun of Bruce (also he would know Batman's name is Bruce...and would probably have opinions about whether TDKR was overrated). Heck, Wade might even appeal to the writer for an edge.

Posted by The Stegman

Low blow with Wayne's parents Gerry, low blow. >.<

Edited by k4tzm4n

@akbogert: I know you're kidding, but I imagine some people will take it seriously, so I will for a moment, too. While Deadpool often breaks the fourth wall (this is something Gerry/Brian certainly haven't shied away from), I see no reason to believe Deadpool possesses our knowledge of Batman simply because Batman isn't a popular "character" in their universe (I imagine this is due to super fun legal issues). To my knowledge, those movies don't exist to him and he's never read a Batman book, so I don't see how breaking the fourth wall would benefit him in this scenario or immediately allow him to know Batman's biography/even the basics. That said, there is the purposely vague and hilarious time "Deadpool" went to DC, but his time there was super brief before returning and the majority of it was spent getting stabbed by Deathstroke.

HOWEVER, there was the one time Spider-Man randomly said "I'm Batman," so...

*$#&!

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Posted by ccraft

Batman wins

Edited by Saren

t was to prove he's not some chump that Batman will effortlessly smack around... and I'm certain more than a handful of people out there came into this feature with that outcome in mind.

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Edited by SynCig

I agree with the article on every point. Especially pointing out Deadpool's skill because that is something that seems lost on many (largely due to Way's run on the character). Batman would edge out Deadpool. It may not be a perfect example but I think it is sorta like the Talons in the Court of the Owls/Night of the Owls story.

Posted by kennybaese

@akbogert said:

I actually think Deadpool should win.

One big thing this assessment doesn't seem to have taken into consideration is Wade's fourth wall-breaking capacity. You said "Unless someone tells Deadpool Batman's parents are dead, I honestly don't see Wade's banter taking a toll on the Justice Leaguer" but no one would need to, because he's Deadpool, so he would know to make fun of Bruce (also he would know Batman's name is Bruce...and would probably have opinions about whether TDKR was overrated). Heck, Wade might even appeal to the writer for an edge.

The fourth wall thing is an interesting idea. I think that in a straight forward fight, Batman would probably take him, but adding that into the mix makes things a lot more interesting. I'd be interested to see what @k4tzm4n thinks about this idea.

Posted by lilben42

I agree.

Edited by Dernman

Wish I saw the Shatterstar and Squirrel Girl fights.

Posted by Night Thrasher

I think Deadpool wins because this statement trolls the most amount of people. :-P

Edited by Saren

@k4tzm4n said:

I see no reason to believe Deadpool possess our knowledge of Batman simply because Batman isn't a popular "character" in their universe (I imagine this is due to super fun legal issues). To my knowledge, those movies don't exist to him and he's never read a Batman book, so I don't see how breaking the fourth wall would benefit him in this scenario or immediately allow him to know Batman's biography/even the basics.

There was the time Spidey made fun of Christian Bale's Batman voice, though.

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Posted by k4tzm4n

@citizenbane: Well, then I have to stand corrected on that one point.

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Posted by Nerx

My two cents here

Batman gets shot in the mouth ;)

Posted by akbogert

@k4tzm4n said:

@akbogert: I know you're kidding, but I imagine some people will take it seriously, so I will for a moment, too. While Deadpool often breaks the fourth wall (this is something Gerry/Brian certainly haven't shied away from), I see no reason to believe Deadpool possesses our knowledge of Batman simply because Batman isn't a popular "character" in their universe (I imagine this is due to super fun legal issues). To my knowledge, those movies don't exist to him and he's never read a Batman book, so I don't see how breaking the fourth wall would benefit him in this scenario or immediately allow him to know Batman's biography/even the basics. That said, there is the purposely vague and hilarious time "Deadpool" went to DC, but his time there was super brief before returning and the majority of it was spent getting stabbed by Deathstroke.

HOWEVER, there was the one time Spider-Man radnomly said "I'm Batman," so...

*$#&!

Yes, probably one of the best moments in Runaways ever.

And actually I wasn't kidding. That's a fundamental component of why I like Deadpool, and to have him suddenly lack comic book awareness because it would make a fight (that shouldn't be possible) unfair would actually sort of undermine the legitimacy of the verdict for me.

Posted by Trevel8182

Edited by LordRequiem

I think Deadpool could take this.

Edited by Moon_Bat_87

@k4tzm4n: You will need to send me more information on Squirrel Girl....I cannot believe she defeated all of those opponents you listed.

Anyway back on task. In order to make a judgment on this fight, what are Deadpool's healing/durability feats when it comes to getting punched/kicked to the point of being knocked out? I understand he is close to being unkillable, but I am not clear as to how his healing factor is calculated against blunt knockout trauma.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@akbogert: I never stated I don't think it would happen because it's "unfair," I stated I didn't think it would happen because I wasn't under the impression Deadpool has read DC comics or is even familiar with the character. Regardless, something like that would depend 100% on the writer. They can make it so he's seen all of the Batman films, but this is something he's never mentioned (again, to my knowledge), so for us, it's entirely unknown. IF he enters the match with that knowledge, it would of course make his banter more effective and potentially make Bruce slip up in time (especially if he brings up the death of Damian). But, that's one big "if," and, in my opinion, it's one that's purely speculation from us.

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Edited by BlueLantern1995

Deadpool teleports with sword in hand and slices Batman's head off. Epic Spite. Batman's out of his league. This may not be his first tactic(as he'll play around a little) but in the end that's the outcome.

Next thing you know, people will say Batman can beat Wolverine...wait a minute you don't think that...so a person who has more power than Wolverine is beaten by someone you think is beaten by Wolverine. I know Deadpool's talking is a handicap but its not THAT BIG A HANDICAP. Besides how can Batman lay a hand on him?

Edited by Moon_Bat_87

@k4tzm4n: You will need to send me more information on Squirrel Girl....I cannot believe she defeated all of those opponents you listed.

Anyway back on task. In order to make a judgment on this fight, what are Deadpool's healing/durability feats when it comes to getting punched/kicked to the point of being knocked out? I understand he is close to being unkillable, but I am not clear as to how his healing factor is calculated against blunt knockout trauma.

Also I think we need to start saying that Batman is beyond peak human simply based on strength feats.

Posted by dondave

Good Article

Posted by akbogert

@k4tzm4n: That's true...but then the whole feature is "purely speculation" :P Considering the fact that you only barely gave Bruce the edge without accounting for the possibility that at least some of these 10 encounters involve him exercising that major aspect of his character, I'm willing to say it makes enough of a difference that if Deadpool doesn't win like I think he should, it's at the least a tie.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@bluelantern1995 said:

Deadpool teleports with sword in hand and slices Batman's head off. Epic Spite. Batman's out of his league. This may not be his first tactic(as he'll play around a little) but in the end that's the outcome.

Next thing you know, people will say Batman can beat Wolverine...wait a minute you don't think that...so a person who has more power than Wolverine is beaten by someone you think is beaten by Wolverine. I know Deadpool's talking is a handicap but its not THAT BIG A HANDICAP. Besides how can Batman lay a hand on him?

Maybe if this was Marvel Ultimate Alliance where he bamfs around like Nightcrawler, but it isn't. And to top it off, he doesn't even have a teleporter anymore.

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Posted by JJ62

I agree. Batman is a better martial artists by far, Is a smarter fighter and has better equipment. 8/10 is far more likely IMO.

Just outta curiosity, why is Batman vs Deadpool closer than Batman vs Daredevil?? I think objectively Daredevil is a much better fighter than Deadpool.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@jj62 said:

I agree. Batman is a better martial artists by far, Is a smarter fighter and has better equipment. 8/10 is far more likely IMO.

Just outta curiosity, why is Batman vs Deadpool closer than Batman vs Daredevil?? I think objectively Daredevil is a much better fighter than Deadpool.

While I'd agree Daredevil is slightly more skilled than Deadpool, it's Wade's physicals which make him more difficult to keep down.

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Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan

I agree with everything up until the verdict. I think Deadpool would actually win this after a long, witty, drawn out fight. Sure that does give Bats time to use his gadgets but I think Wade's healing factor and unorthodox style of fight would eventually grant him the victory. Also he wouldn't shy away from trying to kill Bruce IMO.

@k4tzm4n Deadpool shoots Batman in the FACE!!!!!!!!! :P

Edited by k4tzm4n

I agree with everything up until the verdict. I think Deadpool would actually win this after a long, witty, drawn out fight. Sure that does give Bats time to use his gadgets but I think Wade's healing factor and unorthodox style of fight would eventually grant him the victory. Also he wouldn't shy away from trying to kill Bruce IMO.

@k4tzm4n Deadpool shoots Batman in the FACE!!!!!!!!! :P

Ha! Hey man, I think it's a close one and can understand why you think Wade takes it, but I think some of Batman's gear will prove critical. Electric attacks will stun him and he's not immune to knock out gas, after all.

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Edited by Moon_Bat_87

Okay after getting a private message from k4tzm4n, I think I will have to go with this fight being a draw 5/10 both sides. The times Batman wins, he will need everything he can muster. Maybe if Batman using gas, acid and electric attacks was to become more consistent I would agree with the 6/10.

Posted by TDK_1997

Good article.I think that DP's healing factor and speed will be a real problem but Batman can overcome that.

Posted by Supreme_Maj

It's so bad about deadpool when he first arrived in the marvel Universe this guy was almost unbeatable he was so fast, so ruthless he was cable and domino nightmare, in one issue of x-force he watch Shatterstar training and he could see 36 ways of killing him he handle the first x-force team alone, use to beat black Tom Cassidy like a child, first encounters with wolverine it was too easy for Wade. And one day they change him into a joker always not taking thing seriously that is why people think that batman can beat him easily but the way i see it if is the wade who inter the marvel universe Dick, Tim, Todd and Selina will cry their Bat.

Posted by JJ62

@k4tzm4n: What does Deadpool have physically over Batman aside from his HF and possibly agility??

From what I've seen isn't Deadpool still just human level in strength, speed, etc.

Edited by LifePool

When it's a fight to the death, Deadpool will ALWAYS win, but since this is to a knockout, I'd hand it to Bats for everything the author listed, except for fighting skill where I think Wade's more adept, since most of his style is "as it goes along" per-se, and unpredictable in that manner.

Posted by ShadowX

What about Deadpools teleportation(Like in mua2) device that he has. Or is that not standard gear for him

Posted by k4tzm4n

@shadowx said:

What about Deadpools teleportation(Like in mua2) device that he has. Or is that not standard gear for him

Current Deadpool does not have a teleporter.

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Posted by ShadowX

@k4tzm4n: alright. Wasn't sure. Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by JamDamage

this is another popularity contest. If they don't know each other, the battle would go with Wade. I'm thinking Joe Kelly Wade, Rick Remender Wade, not Daniel Way Wade. If then, on a lot of occasions, Wade is straight up a bad ass. His healing factor gives him the advantage of stamina like no other, and the dude is pretty damn smart. He's also beaten Taskmaster and Superskrulls. Give Batman the time to think of how to beat Deadpool, and he wins all day long, but not if they just walk into each other. Deadpool wins this battle.

Posted by MadeinBangladesh

Deadpool will make himself lose becuase he knows in the real world, Batman always wins.

Posted by w0nd

@k4tzm4n said:

I see no reason to believe Deadpool possess our knowledge of Batman simply because Batman isn't a popular "character" in their universe (I imagine this is due to super fun legal issues). To my knowledge, those movies don't exist to him and he's never read a Batman book, so I don't see how breaking the fourth wall would benefit him in this scenario or immediately allow him to know Batman's biography/even the basics.

There was the time Spidey made fun of Christian Bale's Batman voice, though.

HAHA what's that from

Posted by blazinasian112

Good article...I think Deadpool takes the majority

It's so bad about deadpool when he first arrived in the marvel Universe this guy was almost unbeatable he was so fast, so ruthless he was cable and domino nightmare, in one issue of x-force he watch Shatterstar training and he could see 36 ways of killing him he handle the first x-force team alone, use to beat black Tom Cassidy like a child, first encounters with wolverine it was too easy for Wade. And one day they change him into a joker always not taking thing seriously that is why people think that batman can beat him easily but the way i see it if is the wade who inter the marvel universe Dick, Tim, Todd and Selina will cry their Bat.

He was a bad mofo in the 90s...I still like DP, but would wish they would show the serious killer instinct side of him every now and then

@dernman said:

Wish I saw the Shatterstar and Squirrel Girl fights.

Edited by Moon_Bat_87

After talking with @k4tzm4n via Private Messaging in further detail, I would like to change my opinion from 5/10 split to 6/10 in favor of Batman because he has gadgets that he uses on a regular basis that can bring down Deadpool.

Posted by Doctor_Whovian

Batman. When in doubt (or no doubt whatsoever), the answer is always Batman.

Edited by inferiorego

It's a draw. Deadpool shoots Batman in the face, but Deadpool drops dead from a series of gases Batman put into the air designed to nullify the healing factor of Deadpool as well as just out-right kill him.

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Posted by Vaeternus

The Dark Knight has this.

Posted by Dark_Vengeance_
Posted by Supreme_Maj

Wade wins this I don't know what people are talking about wade not having great fighting skills even Wolverine origins showed how skillful he is "the perfect soldier" capable of cutting a bullet in two before even be changed into a meta by stryker.