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Does Batman always win? Batman vs Captain America

Steve Rogers versus Bruce Wayne is without question one of the most heated debates in comic book history. Does Batman "always win" or is the super soldier going to take him down? We provide our thoughts!


Place your bets.

"Batman always wins. Why? Because... he's Batman."

That's an on-going joke surrounding the character, but I thought I'd take it a step further and have some fun with the statement. "Does Batman always win?" will hopefully be a monthly feature where I'll pit Batman in close match ups, weigh the advantages of each combatant, and then declare a winner (just like I did with Movie Dredd vs Movie Batman). The battle will always be standard comic book versions with their standard gear and it will take place in a neutral setting: a traditional and unpopulated city block at night. This will be a random encounter with ample starting distance. That means there's no prep!

Don't make him "one punch!" you, Hal.

Why Batman? Batman is simply a human at the end of the day, and that makes his accomplishments that much more impressive. Not only is Batman one of the most well known comic book characters around, he also demands your respect as a combatant. Even if you don't like him, you still have to admire the fact that he's extraordinary skilled, brilliant and has a huge array of equipment packed away in that belt of his. He can hang with some of the best and most dangerous street level characters around, and since that's the level I'm the most knowledgeable on, I'm excited for many of the matches I have in store for all of you (I'm welcome to suggestions, too!).

I present to you my first "Does Batman always win?" segment: Batman vs Captain America. Both are accomplished tacticians and highly talented combatants, but they each bring drastically different advantages to the table. They've faced before in non-canon crossovers and both times they were pretty evenly matched. Do I agree with that or do I think one should clearly be the victor? Read on to find out!

Captain America's advantages

There's no bat spray to counter a shield to the face.

Bruce Wayne has reached peak human condition with years of dedicated training. He was chopping through bricks and kicking down trees at just 25 years-old, but despite being beyond what any real-life human is capable of, Captain America is still his physical superior. Thanks to the Super-Soldier Serum, Captain America is technically defined as enhanced human and this provides him with strength, speed and endurance above The Dark Knight.

Captain America has been seen bench pressing 1,100 lbs and is capable of running a mile in just over a minute. While top running speed isn't the most critical factor, it still plays a role and proves that given the opportunity, Steve Rogers can absolutely keep pace with Bruce Wayne. In fights, strength is always a big factor. It means strikes can be more powerful and he can overcome in the event of a grapple. And with endurance, it obviously means the Super-Soldier won't fatigue as quickly as Wayne. That's not to discredit Wayne in that regard, of course. The events of 'Knightfall' prove Wayne can push his body to absurd limits, but Captain America simply has the unfair advantage of the SSS.

Agility that shouldn't be underestimated.

On top of being physically superior, Captain America has the perfect offensive/defensive weapon at his disposal: a virtually unbreakable shield. In Cap's hands, the shield is a colorful weapon worthy of your fear. Not only can he wield it incredibly well when it comes to striking his opponent in close combat, but he can also throw it with a ridiculous amount of accuracy (he's managed to turn off a lighter on the floor), has the technical mind needed to calculate amazing ricochet shots, and can use it to block a majority of incoming attacks. To me, ricochet shots are quite a wildcard worth taking into account here. The disc to the back of the head or torso is sure to throw someone (yes, even Batman) off their game.

Additionally, Captain America has made the claim that he can simply "see faster" than regular humans, and that grants him the reflexes to use the weapon with incredibly efficiency when it comes to defensive measures. That's going to be key here considering Batman has the edge in hand-to-hand capabilities.

Naturally, Captain America has some experience facing characters similar to Batman. He's had a few fights with Daredevil (though most have had significant factors) and had no real trouble holding his own (in all of them except for the recent one in Waid's DD), taken down Taskmaster, has proven to be roughly equal to Black Panther, and had a close encounter with classic Iron Fist.

Batman's advantages

Can skill overcome physicals?

While Captain America has Batman outclassed physically and has one incredibly resourceful weapon, Bruce Wayne has some praise worthy advantages of his own. First and foremost, Batman is more skilled than Captain America. Rogers is very talented in his own right (once claimed to be adept at every style), but Batman has a level of skill that few street levelers can compete with. Somehow through years of extensive studying, his Bat brain has "perfected every known fighting discipline." (JLA: The Ultimate Guide to the Justice League of America). Not only is he more talented than Rogers in unarmed combat,but Dick Grayson has also made the claim that Wayne knows every single pressure point -- and we've seen Wayne disable foes with nerve strikes quite a few times before.

Shoryuken!

But, this isn't unarmed combat. Captain America has his shield and luckily for Batman, he has a wealthy amount of weaponry at his disposal. While Captain America has just one weapon (albeit an impressive one), The Dark Knight has variety on his side. America's super soldier has no counter for a cryo pellet, various gases, smoke pellets, light explosives and electric attacks. That's barely even scratching the surface of what Wayne can implement in combat, too.

Smoke pellets can further compliment Batman's already beyond impressive stealth capabilities as well. Batman has flawlessly vanished while he was right in the target's line of sight. To me, this totally defies logic, but it's a consistent feat in his career and therefore something he can do on a regular basis. If needed, Batman can use this environment to his advantage with proper use of his smoke pellets and grappling line. From there, it's a game of ninja cat versus steroids cat. Batman can regain the edge thanks to his stealth, but at the same rate, there's no guarantee the strike will be a critical game changer.

Batman has an extensive history of fighting characters physically superior to him. Deathstroke would be a prime example of this (since he's also enhanced). While Deathstroke has made short work of him, it's worth noting that Batman didn't implement his gear and Slade Wilson is, as he bluntly stated himself, more vicious and trained to kill. While Rogers has no problem crossing that line when required, it's not in character for him to be that aggressive in this encounter. Then there's Bane, a man of course less powerful than Captain America (off venom since that's how a majority of their fights went down), but still Batman has been able to overcome him thanks to his greater talent in martial arts.

The Verdict

Flip a coin.

Of course these characters fluctuate from writer to writer, but I believe that written to their full potential and thrown into this scenario, the outcome would be a stalemate. To think either has a blatant advantage to make the outcome obvious is simply false to me. Both bring valuable aspects to the table and it's completely logical to see either taking it. While Batman has the edge in skill, it by no means renders him untouchable to Cap, and one clean connect from his enhanced level strength or shield (be it a strike or ricochet) holds the potential to turn the tide. Meanwhile, Batman's stealth abilities and massive array of equipment that Cap has no immediate counter for are equally big wild cards to me. I legitimately believe it's entirely conceivable for either to be the victor in this case.

G-Man's thoughts

"I would say, even though Batman is supposed to win, you could expect Cap to win. ESPECIALLY because of The New 52. It just seems Cap has way more experience taking on a large variety of threats with many on a galactic level.

Batman, we have to assume, hasn't dealt with too many foes outside of his rogues gallery. Yes he fought Darkseid in JUSTICE LEAGUE 1-6 but what other huge threats did he face? Has he lead the JL on many missions or other teams? Cap has more experience and is prepared to go up against foes like Ultron, Kang the Conqueror and even Galactus. There's always the infamous "prep" time but unless Batman defeats him quickly, Cap would have the skills to keep dodging his attacks and the stamina to outlast Batman."

Who do you think would win and why? Sound off!

Gregg Katzman is a freelance writer for Comic Vine and IGN Entertainment. If this feature does well, expect another one next month! Be sure to follow him on Twitter for early spoilers every week about Rants & Raves and Best Battles!

625 Comments
Posted by DecoyElite

@docluthorvondoom: Insults aren't allowed. If you can't handle treating others with respect then I would suggest going to a different site.

Edited by Alexander505

@spider11211 said:

I do not think you are giving Cap enough credit for his fighting skill, he is also very highly trained in many forms of combat.

Not enough credit? Cap is so overestimated on Comic Vine, that the Mr k4tzm4n should start to write "Does Captain America always win?"

Posted by 3PAR_Muscle

@alexander505: I have to agree. The SSS did not give Captain America fighting skills. It gave him agility, strength, and speed. He was chosen for the program for his heart and leadership ability that was already inside of him.

There is no question that Batman is the far better fighter of the two. He has extensive training in multiple martial art forms and tactical skills that rival anything Captain America has delivered. This is not to knock on Cap, mind you, it's just perspective.

In a fighting ring, where it was an enclosed space, I would absolutely give Rogers the advantage. Sure Wayne is the better pure fighter but in closed quarters size, strength, & speed will prevail. Change the setting into a normal environment out there in the world and there's simply no way Captain America has a shot at surviving against Batman. Batman will always do what it takes to win and his greatest asset is his cunning, "think on his feet" ability. Batman always finds his opponents' weaknesses and does so early on.

In my opinion this conversation isn't even worth having. Captain America is cool and all that but he's sort of a really poor man's Superman. Batman, on the other hand, rivals Wolverine more as the "anti-hero" type.

Posted by spider11211

@spider11211 said:

I do not think you are giving Cap enough credit for his fighting skill, he is also very highly trained in many forms of combat.

Not enough credit? Cap is so overestimated on Comic Vine, that the Mr k4tzm4n should start to write "Does Captain America always win?"

I do not agree...AT ALL.

Batman is treated as gold here.

Posted by Rob_From_GopRant

@3par_muscle: I agree.

Batman with all his gadgets would be victorious in a normal environment. Straight up UFC style in a cage- Cap would win easily. All his physical attributes are enhanced.

A Bruce Wayne that has prep time and studied Cap - well their is no contest, Cap would fall very fast. Batman is a smart dude.

Edited by The_Good_Loser

Bottom line is, Batman admitted defeat.

Posted by spider11211
Edited by TheImmortalWOMBAT

Look folks, Im a loong time Cap fan, as well as Batman. As we all say and have said time and time again, prep time= Batman win. However, according to the rules set forth, he doesnt have that luxury. I'd say after the first shot from cap that connects to Batman is when Batman begins to loose here. Its not a matter of how but when. Cap was shot with a 9mm handgun in the ribs and managed to pull it out and run down a member of hydra that shot him with no visible of distress. I've seen bats get stabbed and damn near keel over afterward. You can know every fighting tech style in the world but it wont make a difference if your opponents arm wont bend like your used to because of his strength. Cap sends 220+lb dudes(regular humans[which batman is btw]) with a single solid connect. Even if he blocks 4 strikes but 1 gets through, the one that gets through could be crippling. Batman is Batman, but he cannot defy physics. Getting punched in the ribs with a (im guessing) right hook that generates likely 2,400lbs of force means bloody piss for a while. Not too mention Cap IS ALSO EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT BAT_BONERS!! Knows 7 languages(or more), expert tactician(EXPERT!!), leads a group of super beings that are HUNDREDS of times more powerful than him and has even faced Thanos(with the gauntlet) among others. Sorry, mystique and legend(along with a dogma esq following) do not constitute a win over a superior opponent in their element. Caps great with spur of the moment stuff, Bats, not so much against powerful opponents with no time to "investigate".

Cap Wins after what looks like, a long well even matched fight which actually doesnt last too long after breaking six of Bats ribs and then it hurts to breathe. "If he cant breathe, he cant fight!"

Posted by ComicStooge

Bottom line is, Batman admitted defeat.

In a non-canon crossover where Storm beat Wonder Woman.

Posted by spider11211

Look folks, Im a loong time Cap fan, as well as Batman. As we all say and have said time and time again, prep time= Batman win. However, according to the rules set forth, he doesnt have that luxury. I'd say after the first shot from cap that connects to Batman is when Batman begins to loose here. Its not a matter of how but when. Cap was shot with a 9mm handgun in the ribs and managed to pull it out and run down a member of hydra that shot him with no visible of distress. I've seen bats get stabbed and damn near keel over afterward. You can know every fighting tech style in the world but it wont make a difference if your opponents arm wont bend like your used to because of his strength. Cap sends 220+lb dudes(regular humans[which batman is btw]) with a single solid connect. Even if he blocks 4 strikes but 1 gets through, the one that gets through could be crippling. Batman is Batman, but he cannot defy physics. Getting punched in the ribs with a (im guessing) right hook that generates likely 2,400lbs of force means bloody piss for a while. Not too mention Cap IS ALSO EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT BAT_BONERS!! Knows 7 languages(or more), expert tactician(EXPERT!!), leads a group of super beings that are HUNDREDS of times more powerful than him and has even faced Thanos(with the gauntlet) among others. Sorry, mystique and legend(along with a dogma esq following) do not constitute a win over a superior opponent in their element. Caps great with spur of the moment stuff, Bats, not so much against powerful opponents with no time to "investigate".

Cap Wins after what looks like, a long well even matched fight which actually doesnt last too long after breaking six of Bats ribs and then it hurts to breathe. "If he cant breathe, he cant fight!"

Well said!

Posted by CaptainAmerica1986

CAP!

Posted by nme2all

Id say cap in some, and bats in another

They would be evenly matched but there are things that Batman cant augment that are countered by his technological aids. Things given to Cap as a result of the super soldier forum. Strength, speed, reflexes etc are all genetically determined and unless Batman was the most gifted person on the planet and born with these, they can only be enhanced so much and no one possess all the best of the best genetics so at a human level everything would only be enhanced as best as it can get. Caps SSS enhances everything to its peak. This also means also his internal workings such as synapses which connect everything, are faster and will stay at peak and operate at a level beyond what Batman has, as you can only train that so much as itll peak depending on his gifts he was born with. Every one of these weakness or flaws are non exsistent with Cap. Yes Batman has phenomenal attributes, but physically if pushed to maintain it at high levels, he would be forced to retreat as he doesnt have that edge of the SSS. No amount of training can enhance them. Batmans strength here is he has reached his personal peak levels and perfected using them.

As for the martial arts, mastering them all gives more tools for one to use in battle and batmans technical expertise at combining them is unparalled. All good but useless if you cant hit or dodge something you cant hit or dodge. Some other things are enhanced too such as Caps sight, hearing, touch which also contribute to Caps unique fighting style, which would have deteriorated in Batman also. And Caps injuries wouldve healed far better than Batmans, (broken bones, knees and other joints, muscle ligaments) which never heal back to %100, slowing him slightly more also. That wouldnt be evident due to Bats superior endurance and ability to push his body to incredible limits. Them both benching the same amount of weight has been noted but did they say how many times that amount was pushed? big difference doing it just once as to doing it 20 times...

Another thing is Cap has fought in actual wars for extended periods of time and has killed alot of people. Purposely. Batman refrains from killing and his wars have mostly been invasions of sorts and of short duration. That could also be an edge for Cap. But Cap wouldnt do that with Batman and also refrains from going all out as he is aware of his strength when fighting non powered humans so could be a hinderance.

The shield also is only an extension of Cap and he doesnt actually need it and is a common mistake made. Its been shown also but he is a far better fighter with it due to the fighting style hes developed using it.

One on One in a straight fight id give it to Cap. The SSS gives him that edge that will mean he will outlast him at a greater intensity with little or no fatigue meaning he wont lose any of his fighting prowess, and he would be able to do multiple feats without any loss of speed and strength or fightong awareness.

Preperation I'd call it a draw - I noticed that most here gave that to Batman forgetting that Cap could also prepare and bring S.H.I.E.L.D tech in with him (He is afterall affiliated with them) to counter Batman and he is evenly matched for pre planned tactics as Batman is. Batman is afterall an amazing detective and Cap is an amazing captain in the army.

Cap is a far better thinking fighter on his feet than Batman and Bats a far better investigative fighter than Cap. Hence his leadership abilities and teamwork as opposed to Batmans loner style.

Batman would have the advantage where his stealth and tech knowledge is a factor, in that kind of fight id give it to him.

But in a comic world all this could be irrelevent and cap could trip over a stray dangerous peanut and accidently fall, decapitating himself with his shield. These things happen...

Posted by hulksmash134

when there are marvel and dc crossovers then DC refuse to let their characters lose so batman will always win but Captain America should always win

Posted by baneofdemon22

They're my two favorite heroes, so I was happy to see them fight to a stand still in the crossover.

Posted by lifeofvibe

its not a tie if one gots more energy then the other

Posted by GodDamnIronMan

lol, couldn't believe an overdone thread can last 12 f**king pages...

wow, just wow.

Posted by lifeofvibe

@goddamnironman: its batman vs captain america its as controversal as goku vs superman

Posted by CHE_GUEVARA

Captain america ,easily.

Batman's gizmos would be useless against cap's shield wnd he is also physically outmatched against cap am.

Edited by coolbeans101

I dont even like cap all that much, and batmans my favorite charactor of all time, but i, unlike some batman fans around here, can admit when he would lose a fight.

Intelligents- both heroes are very very smart, but in overall intelligents batman definitly has the edge, but that doesnt mean didly squat when you have no prep time and youve got a very skilled combatant on your ass. What really matters is stratagy and tactics, and being that both these guys are among the best in the respective universes its too close to give a decisive edge to either of them

Physical attributes- obviously these go to cap, i dont really need to explain

Fighting ability- again a toss up... both are increadibly skilled and id even give the edge to batman slightly, but its just not enough to say batman would win this fight. Caps to skilled to simply be beat with just hand to hand combat.

Projection- its obvious that batman has the projection catagory in his favor. But lets be honest how many of these would be that effective against someone like cap, its not like hes never seen a smoke pellet before!

Anyway, in the end this in no way would be an easy fight for cap, but i dont see him losing this or at least not as much as some of you have suggested. Looking at some of the comments youd think batman is fighting some brawler off the streets. Were talking about captain america for god sakes! Hes not stupid, nor is he useless without his sheild, and given that there so evenly matched in everything else besides their physical attributes cap just does more damage in the end than batman does.

Posted by nightwing737

Cap, they are about even so the match would go on for hours but since Cap has better endurance Batman would get tired before cap so cap would eventually win.

Posted by PapiNacho

@che_guevara: Can the shield protect Cap from gas?

Also Batman never admitted defeat, he said Cap might win, as in the possibility existed that he could actually lose. Batman takes this 6/10.

Posted by Veshark

@che_guevara: Can the shield protect Cap from gas?

Also Batman never admitted defeat, he said Cap might win, as in the possibility existed that he could actually lose. Batman takes this 6/10.

Cap has a healing factor to fall back on. He can accelerate his metabolism to flush out poisons and toxins from his body, so I'd imagine he has a high resistance to knockout gas. And he's been in the superhero game long enough to know to avoid gas.

It's worth noting that in the same JLA/Avengers crossover, Prometheus encounters Cap and downloads Batman's skills into his brain, claiming, "It should be enough". Cap proceeds to wipe the floor with him. Now of course this doesn't factor in Batman's gadgets or tactical mind, but I thought I'd point it out.

Posted by PapiNacho

@veshark: Of course, but Prometheus doesn't posses Bruce's drive or pain tolerance. As to the gas bit, while I agree that Cap would most likely avoid it at least temporarily; the most likely outcome is that he would eventually get tagged by it or any of Bruce's weapons. Your point about Cap's resistance is valid thought, and I while don't know if it would take him down it would at the very least slow him down enough for Batman to beat him.

Posted by Veshark

@papinacho

Yeah, of course I'm not saying that's how an actual fight between the two would turn out, but I'm just showing an instance that implies Cap can match Bats in HTH. Assuming we're only comparing hand-to-hand combat, and if we consider the JLA/Avengers crossover to be a valid reference point.

That's certainly one tactical option for Bats. But it should be noted that spamming knockout gas isn't really Batman's go-to fighting style. I can only think of two instances where he used knockout gas, and it was against mobs (though of course, there may be more). I always see any encounter between these two as starting out with gadgets vs. shield before devolving into a HTH match.

Posted by PapiNacho

@veshark: Well yes, by no means did I mean to imply Cap didn't have comparable h2h skill but like I said I think Batman can take this 6/10. It really depends on how driven each one is to take the fight. Additionally he does have an electricity gadget that he uses relatively often to tag meta-humans that has taken down an amazon.

Posted by Veshark

@papinacho

I'd give it a 5/10 to either character. Being a relatively well-versed fan of both, I agree with this article's conclusion that both Bats and Cap stand a good chance at victory. A fair argument could be made for either hero taking the majority. I'm not sure what electricity gadget you're referring too though.

Posted by PapiNacho

@veshark: Fair enough. The gadget I'm referring to is shown in the scen from JL # 2 were Batman empties his belt on Superman, being completely ineffective. On the other hand in S/B Public Enemies it took down an amazon and in I,Vampire it temporarily knocked down Mary Queen of Blood (who I would describe as a high mid-tier meta.)

Posted by Veshark

@papinacho

Ahh, the taser. Well, for that Public Enemies instance, one has to keep in mind that pre-52 Amazons are generally no greater than peak humans. Contrary to what many think, they were retconned to baseline human levels. In Amazons Attack, we see nonpowered vigilantes being able to beat them. As for the I, Vampire instance, did this Mary possess superhuman speed?

I don't really see a taser tagging Cap, seeing as how Cap has actually explicitly stated that he can 'see bullets', meaning his mind operates at that speed. Two lines of electricity shooting out of a gadget is a lot easier to dodge than multiple bullets.

Posted by PapiNacho

@veshark: In the case of I,Vampire it is probable that she did being that she was the second most powerful living vampire in the DCU. Having said that it is probable that she allowed herself to be tagged knowing it would only knock her down. On the other hand the point I've trying to make is that all of Batman's gadgets could turn the tide of the battle. If he dodges the taser there is the sonics, smoke pellets etc. Many of these could even be used in combination.

Posted by Veshark

@papinacho

Well that's the basic argument in every Bats vs. Cap debate, really. Bats' skills and gadgets vs. Cap's superior physicals and indestructible shield. Both advantages could be argued as being able to turn the tide of the battle. Cap doesn't have to dodge every gadget Bats throws at him; that's what the shield is for. And Bats has nothing that will penetrate the shield, his only hope is to circumvent it.

Regarding Batman using multiple gadgets together, one factor to consider is that that doesn't really suit Batman's fighting style. He's not really known for spamming weapons, which is why I still believe that this will eventually boil down to a HTH fight. He only uses gadgets if they're called for, but he doesn't wholly rely on them in combat.

If you look at many of his fights, there are instances where he could've just spammed multiple knockout gas pellets and freeze grenades and called it a day. Now of course it's also a matter of making the story interesting, but if you consider characterization, Batman's more of function over numbers.

Posted by CyberWarrior

There is absolutely no way Batman always wins. But he wins this one no doubt.

Edited by Alexander505
@the_good_loser said:

Bottom line is, Batman admitted defeat.

You don't understood what the comic said...ie, Batman speak in the conditional (you could beat me), does not mean that Cap can defeat him of sure, Batman just recognizes that in two fights, Cap could win one, but has not admitted the superiority of the Captain, and neither that Cap can defeat Batman all the time.

Edited by Wolverine08

50/50 split in my opinion.

Posted by Mee09
Posted by Unicornslayr

Cap would win. Realistically Batman is just a man. Captain America has part of the Hulk (Super solider) potion within him. He got Super strength, speed, and a healing regeneration power.

One shield toss and Batman's neck is broke. One punch is all it takes to break his ribs. Sorry Bats.

Posted by Alexander505

Super strength??? LOL

Edited by Brutal_J
Posted by THORSON

batman should win every fight. there is no reason why this powerless hero should lose a battle. \

batman is soo amazing.

Posted by THORSON

@brutal_j said:

@shazam117: superman already beat thor

how did this become a thor superman thread?

Posted by mike01

THIS HAS BEEN DONE In THE COMICS and captain America won.

Avengers VS JLA COMIC

BATMAN ADMITS THAT CAPTAIN America would eventually win if they fought long enough.

there's no arguing with the COMICS

Posted by entropy_aegis

@mike01 said:

THIS HAS BEEN DONE In THE COMICS and captain America won.

Avengers VS JLA COMIC

BATMAN ADMITS THAT CAPTAIN America would eventually win if they fought long enough.

there's no arguing with the COMICS

I kinda get why hack writers get jobs,this post proves it. Fans cant even comprehend something as straightforward as those 2 panels,it's simple Batman deduced that Cap was a good guy and decided that they were better off working with each other complimenting his prowess to boot. Cap didn'nt win squat,however Batman did beat Cap in another crossover so...

Posted by mike01

Bat ADMITS cap would win if he took the time. Besides cap is much stronger and has way more experience. He's a soldier not a rich snob in a flying rat suit.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@mike01 said:

Bat ADMITS cap would win if he took the time. Besides cap is much stronger and has way more experience. He's a soldier not a rich snob in a flying rat suit.

If you want to side with Captain America, that's perfectly fine -- a good case can be made for either character in this fight. But, reducing Batman to "a rich snob in a flying rat suit" shows you're not giving him the credit he deserves and takes away from how much weight your opinion holds. Don't think you'll convince anyone Rogers wins with that attitude ;)

Staff
Edited by Wolverine08

Shield throw decapitates tank turrets and catches up to ICBMs.

Captain America throws shield at Batman and Bruce can't dodge.

Steve wins.

"Murica.

Edited by dccomicsrule2011

I find it funny when people say Batman conceided Cap would beat him when they obviously haven't read their own scan.

Good God people it's called reading and comprehending - it's not that hard.

Posted by ClarkKent12

Well Batman won in the crossover in '96, and don't give me the fan voting thing, that was only Marvel vs DC and Marvel won the votes, which meant they got more victories... The voting didn't decide each fight.

Edited by trexrice

Fanboys notwithstanding, No gadgets, no shield, no weapons- just hand to hand combat- Cap would win. The Super Soldier serum prevents the build-up of lactic acid in his muscles. In other words, he does not fatigue. He would wear Batman out.