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Disney buys Marvel: Opportunity awaits.

InferiorEgo's take on the Disney/Marvel merger

 


 

 Babs and I may overlap a little, but we both have different takes on all of this. So, please enjoy. Write your angry comments after reading, not before. I highlighted some special things just for you!
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Today is a milestone in comic book history. Mark your calendars. 08/31/09. Remember it. This is the day Disney merged with Marvel comics which will hopefully be one of Marvel’s smartest decisions in years.

So here’s something I posted on my facebook earlier today about the merger. Sorry, there’s no real humor in this post. I’m incredibly serious when it comes to posting somewhere that isn’t the pure awesomeness of the vine. I’ll elaborate afterwards, followed by some concerns from the users.

“I am now excited for Marvel, their last few straight-to-dvd films ranged from ok to awful. The animation and voice acting were lack-luster (not counting Hulk vs). I've been very displeased with Marvel the past two years and they really need a boost to get a lot of their old fans back on the wagon. They finally have the financial backing to make gutsy choices. I'm sick to death of safe stories and safe character development. DC gets a lot of flack for their stories, but at least they take chances and that makes their comic world much more interesting right now.


People are complaining that Mickey Mouse is going to pop-up in their Spider-Man comic. It's not going to happen. Warner Brothers owns DC, does that ever happen? No. Try and see the positives in this merger before assuming the worst. Disney wouldn't spend $4 Billion dollars on Marvel just to have Donald Duck and Wolverine duke it out every month.


Bravo Disney & Marvel... I can't wait to see what you two do together.”

You know what will change?

No more Marvel heroes and villains at Universal Studios. That’s a sure-fire bet. “Sorry, you can’t ride the Spider-Man ride. However, we do have our new Arachnid-Hombre ride!” Maybe that’ll happen, that would be so awesome.

Marvel’s been sitting on easy street the past couple of years. Their books make more money, their movies do extremely well, and their television shows are great. However, when it comes to their stories, they don’t try. Old Man Logan & X-Men: Magneto Testament were the only two books I’ve read in the past two years I’ve loved from start to finish. (I’m sure the super-sized Wolvie issue will be great) I got excited when they came out. That only happens now with Marvel’s kid-geared titles, including the awesomeness of Lockjaw & the Pet Avengers. As I said before, their animated films could be a lot better, especially with people doing animation for more than half a century.

They’ve been producing stories which aren’t that great and don’t take any chances. Why? Well, if the story fails, or even starts to fail sales drop and they (and retailers) are stuck with a whole bunch of copies of that book. They’ll have to cut costs, fire people, and then the world implodes on itself because Secret Wars III #5 only sold 13 copies. (or maybe not) With Disney comes financial backing like you could never believe. 

Why is that a good thing?

 They don’t have to worry as much about over-production and under-selling. Sure, it’s still a worry, but not as major since they’re owned Mickey Mouse. 

What does this mean for their books?

Well, hopefully they’ll decide to take risks in their storytelling, and not just with big name writers who can sell books by name alone. Give the fans something exciting again. Maybe go back to World War Hulk and have the Hulk win for Pete’s sake! Czar Hulk! 

And why all the hate on Disney?

They do some great stuff! I’ve seen lots of complaints on them being too kid friendly. Well, that’s what they do best. Will it affect Marvel? No. Does Disney affect Miramax or Touchstone? How about ABC or ESPN? Even on Pixar the influence is minimal. Even Disney has done some great darker films: Black Cauldron and Watcher of the Woods to name a couple. It doesn’t matter anyway, Marvel flat-out said they weren’t doing rated R films anymore. As I said before why pay a buttload (that’s a scientific term) of cash to sink a ship? Your books won't be censored, Wolverine will still go "SNIKT!" and then stab a dude in the face, and I'm pretty sure the X-Men will be filled with teen angst.

Warner Brothers owns DC and there’s only been less than a handful of times where there’s been a crossover, and one of them was the Looney Tunes episode “Green Loontern” and that was awesome. Look for the positive in this because this is a great thing. I wouldn’t mind seeing M.O.D.O.K. and Goofy solve crazy mysteries, would you? Someone in one in the main thread mentioned Norman Osborne in Snow White, that’s pretty awesome too. What if Marvel redoes some Disney stories with Marvel characters? You know how awesome that would be on a scale from 1-10? It would be a 12. A 12! That's 2 more than 10!

Listen, I know lots of you are really upset about this. The thing is, you shouldn’t be. There are so many new opportunities opened up here for Marvel. As I said before, I am truly excited for what will be coming down the drain-pipes in the next 5-10 years. I haven’t been this excited for Marvel since Age of Apocalypse, and this is coming from the guy who not only owns the ENTIRE run of X-Men 2099, but also J2.

So, I’m going to say this one time and one time only. For right now, “make mine Marvel!”

(Please don’t tell Mr. Didio I said that)

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Posted by CATMANEXE

excellant article and im in total agreement here. this is a win win situation.
the only thing thats going to happen...
Marvel fans will get more and better.
Disney fans will get more and better.
props to you guys for printing intelligence and truth over rumor and hype.

Edited by inferiorego
@CATMANEXE said:

" excellant article and im in total agreement here. this is a win win situation. the only thing thats going to happen... Marvel fans will get more and better. Disney fans will get more and better. props to you guys for printing intelligence and truth over rumor and hype. "

Thanks, and It is true... I own J2
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Posted by Citizen 14

G-Man. What a great Article.
I agree with you. This really might be a great thing.
I hope.

Posted by Korg

I'm angry, but I forget why, because I had to read this first!

Posted by G-Man
@Citizen 14 said:
" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Thanks?  I just told him to write it.
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Posted by jefprice

The only issue I have with any of this is the fact Marvel will be Disney. I don't like that everyone is merging all the time and that everything is going the way or Corp giants. However, if anyone can do it and still be themselves it's Marvel. 
 
 I'm not a fan of a lot of what the WB has done with DC, in fact I like less then half of it. The cartoons are really the only thing before Bales Batman that I cared for. Catwoman, Superman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin ETC are all on my crap list. But Disney is not WB. They respect characters and franchises. This indeed could be great.

Posted by inferiorego
@G-Man said:
" @Citizen 14 said:
" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Thanks?  I just told him to write it. "
Hahaha! I'm totally your puppet!
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Posted by danhimself
@G-Man said:
" @Citizen 14 said:
" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Thanks?  I just told him to write it. "

thanks G-Man!!!! that was a great article!!!!
Posted by The Crimson Nutcase
@Citizen 14 said:
" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Um FYI this is inferiorego...not G-Man
Posted by Tyler Starke

Well now that you put it that wayyy, good job my mind was changed!

Posted by Mr. Wilson

Good article only I am confused about the non 'gutsy' decisions made by Marvel observation.  Isn't DD the leader of the Hand, Norman Osborn controlling the universe and Asgard on Earth with Thor outcasted.  Heck One More Day was one of the GUTSIEST things ever in comics period.  In War of Kings the Universe is torn!  Iron Man is stupid! Bucky is Cap (for now at least. lol)   To me those are pretty exciting things.   
 
Besides that I toally agree. Marvel has slowly been lining their ducks in a row with acquiring Halo rights, Marvel Studios being produced (not sure if thats affected now though), Marvel Man, and now this?  Let the good times roll.
 
Posted by blade hunter

iv neve really read ur articles but i liked this one and J2 is awesome
Posted by Citizen 14
@G-Man said:

" @Citizen 14 said:

" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Thanks?  I just told him to write it. "
yeah. sorry. I had too tabs up. Reading this one and babs. I have no idea where your name came from. 
I meant, Inferiorego. 
You make some great points. I cant wait to the see some changes.
Posted by Stormultt

this will hopefully help marvels animation area HOPEFULLY
Posted by inferiorego
@Mr. Wilson said:
" Good article only I am confused about the non 'gutsy' decisions made by Marvel observation.  Isn't DD the leader of the Hand, Norman Osborn controlling the universe and Asgard on Earth with Thor outcasted.  Heck One More Day was one of the GUTSIEST things ever in comics period.  In War of Kings the Universe is torn!  Iron Man is stupid! Bucky is Cap (for now at least. lol)   To me those are pretty exciting things.    Besides that I toally agree. Marvel has slowly been lining their ducks in a row with acquiring Halo rights, Marvel Studios being produced (not sure if thats affected now though), Marvel Man, and now this?  Let the good times roll.  "
I originally had a paragraph in there going over most of the things you mentioned, but took it out because I felt the article was already too long. With Marvel, there are no absolutes (you can argue the same actually for DC, but Marvel is the topic now) everything reverts back to normalcy. One More Day is exactly that, reverting back to 20 years prior. Norman will be stopped in the next year or so, Thor will be let back into Asgard. DD will leave the hand. I haven't read, but really want to, War of Kings, I can't get the 4th issue into my shop. Steve Rogers coming back was the FINAL straw for me, especially when Bucky as Cap was working so well...
 
Anyways, I'm off of work, I'll be back later to discuss more.
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Posted by inferiorego
@Citizen 14 said:
" @G-Man said:

" @Citizen 14 said:

" G-Man. What a great Article. I agree with you. This really might be a great thing. I hope. "
Thanks?  I just told him to write it. "
yeah. sorry. I had too tabs up. Reading this one and babs. I have no idea where your name came from. 
I meant, Inferiorego. 
You make some great points. I cant wait to the see some changes.
"
hahaha thanks!
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Posted by Mr. Wilson
@inferiorego said:
" @Mr. Wilson said:
" Good article only I am confused about the non 'gutsy' decisions made by Marvel observation.  Isn't DD the leader of the Hand, Norman Osborn controlling the universe and Asgard on Earth with Thor outcasted.  Heck One More Day was one of the GUTSIEST things ever in comics period.  In War of Kings the Universe is torn!  Iron Man is stupid! Bucky is Cap (for now at least. lol)   To me those are pretty exciting things.    Besides that I toally agree. Marvel has slowly been lining their ducks in a row with acquiring Halo rights, Marvel Studios being produced (not sure if thats affected now though), Marvel Man, and now this?  Let the good times roll.  "
I originally had a paragraph in there going over most of the things you mentioned, but took it out because I felt the article was already too long. With Marvel, there are no absolutes (you can argue the same actually for DC, but Marvel is the topic now) everything reverts back to normalcy. One More Day is exactly that, reverting back to 20 years prior. Norman will be stopped in the next year or so, Thor will be let back into Asgard. DD will leave the hand. I haven't read, but really want to, War of Kings, I can't get the 4th issue into my shop. Steve Rogers coming back was the FINAL straw for me, especially when Bucky as Cap was working so well...  Anyways, I'm off of work, I'll be back later to discuss more. "
I know what you are saying, I was just showing that Marvel does the same as DC. Batman will be back, dead characters will return from Blackest Night, Darkseid will return big time again, and so on.  Just a point which is why some people gravitate toward indies.   
 
War of Kings is the best event I've ever read and btw there is a classic Rocket Racoon scene in that ish I think so be prepared. :)
Posted by Vindellavon

Does this have any real effect on the content written in the comic books? That's all I'm interested in.
Posted by War Killer

After reading Babs, this post and a one of CATMANEXE's post in Babs topic, I'm not so worried about this anymore

Posted by EvLJEsT

I just dont wanna see the disney logo next to the marvel logo on the left corner, or tons of Disney advertisements in the books either. I mean if they leave marvel with the majority of there creative idea then i say yes, but if things get censored then i might just stop reading marvel comics.

Edited by crush1974

You know what, I don't  hate this turn of events.  At first I Thought what a big bag of suck this might be.  then I really though about it.  This has huge potential for both companies.  Sure, its a possibility that it could fail and turn out as I had first though; but then that can be said of a lot of things.  A lot of people has poured on the hate for Disney and I cant seem to figure out why.  First Disney brings a huge marketing and distribution network to the table, not to mention the merchandising.  I have also been reading the people seem to thing the big warm and fuzzy Disney will water down the Marvel product; I could not disagree more here.  First fact is simple, Disney is not that warm and fuzzy and you don't have to look beyond their features to see this; Tarzan the villian ends up being hung by the neck, 101 dalmations saw the puppies kidnapped to be turned into coats, babi's mother is shot and killed early in the movie and ends w/ a massive forest fire that threatens everything.  the other fact is the Disney owns other media like touchstone pictures and similar ventures.  When taken as a whole, I think the possibilities are really astronomical. 

Posted by drdanny10293

i have no problem with this if disney let's marvel have complete creative control escpecially with X Force 

Posted by ARMIV

I read about it,and I cooled down when I read that they didn't want to change their characters. I rejoiced when I read that they were gonna give Marvel full creative right over what Marvel wants to do.
 
What lost me though,was when I read that Disney wanted to eventually produce Marvel's movies.
No.

Posted by Namor1987

I guess this could be advantageous to Marvel/Disney
Posted by drdanny10293
@ARMIV: that's a good thing animation wise but i swear if i hear wolverine sing *shudders in pure fear*
Edited by Brit

I hope it does not affect the comic books.. I hope they don't make X-Men the Highschool Musical!! F*CK its giving me the seizures!!

Posted by ARMIV
@drdanny10293 said:
" @ARMIV: that's a good thing animation wise but i swear if i hear wolverine sing *shudders in pure fear* "
I will boycott if they make Wolvie sing.
Posted by Paragon
@Brit said:
" I hope it does not affect the comic books.. "
It will not. In Babs' article she mentioned that a Disney exec said "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."  Marvel is a money making machine right now. Why screw with the formula?
 
So don't worry. We won't be seeing anything like this in the main Marvel books.

Posted by aztek_the_lost
@inferiorego: awesome article, you pointed out the fact that Marvel's been in a slump lately (story-wise) so this is exactly the opportunity they need, I like it :D
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Posted by drdanny10293
@Paragon: thank GOD
Posted by Brit

As long as they don't make any musicals with Marvel characters on it.

Posted by MrDirector786

I now think that this is one of the best things to happen to Marvel.

Posted by TerryMcC

Still they are the people who gave the Hunchback of Notre Dame  a happy ending and musical numbers, so anything thing could happen. 
 
In the end I'm betting it's all going to be much adu about nothing. 
 
And maybe this will at last explane just what the hell Goofy is, a man or a dog.... mutant.

Posted by Fenderman

I wanna know whats gonna happen to the rides at Universal in Orlando now.  Disney now not only gets the Marvel brand and all the great opportunities for movies, merch and book revenue, but man they can now just about shut down their main competitionin Orlando!!  Or, to really twist it in, they might leave those rides there and then Universal has to pay royalties to Disney for the use of it!  IF you have been to Orlando and seen all the Billboards there for Universal you know its a big rivalry as Universal says you can "ride higher", "shout louder", etc. at Universal than you can at disney and on those billboards are Spiderman and the Hulk.  Now those are going to Disney.  I take my kids to ORlando every summer and I look forward to seeing Spiderman and Storm and Daredevil walking around the Aerosmith Roller Coaster.  BTW, I agree. I dont think Disney will change much if anything. Marvel is a great brand, why ruin it?  ITs making money now so they wont alter anything. 
Edited by Om1kron

comparing warner brothers creative influence to disney's is downright retarded. go tell me where I can buy the transformers g1 cartoon dvd's since disney aquired the rights to those... oh that's right you cant because they had them pulled from the shelves. Warner brothers released the matrix and a horde of other r rated envelope pushing movies, of course they would benefit from owning the properties as well since they produce the superman and batman movies. Just like the advertising plug in I am Legend for a batman vs superman movie (pure fiction) but you wont see any of that with disney.  
 
It should be interesting to see what happens to say the least. But don't bet that disney wont be sticking their noses where it doesn't belong. 

Posted by FoxxFireArt

I've been hearing about this all over the net and everyone is in an uproar.
 
Nice to find someone who's just showing some facts.

Posted by ryanwh

I'm glad you made this followup, because nobody was listening in the initial thread. They were just crying and bloviating misinformation and flipping out like children. Maybe now they'll be forced to read a reasonable perspective, assuming they respond, like you suggest, after reading and not before.

Posted by Draconis Prime

Maybee well get lucky n see Mickey get eatn by Marvel Zombies!  lol

Posted by LordAndrew

As fun as it is to fantasize, it really is unlikely that we'll be seeing big changes.

Posted by whirlwind6

Disney will decide what movies get made.  Just like WB does with DC.  That's why we never get any non Superman or Batman DC movies (besides movies from different genres, like Watchmen and Jonah Hex).  Wake up and smell the corruption, people.
Posted by Korg
@whirlwind6 said:
" Disney will decide what movies get made.  Just like WB does with DC.  That's why we never get any non Superman or Batman DC movies (besides movies from different genres, like Watchmen and Jonah Hex).  Wake up and smell the corruption, people. "
Disney doesn't decide what movies get made. Marvel has an existing contract with Paramount, which is still valid. DC is coming out with a Green Lantern movie, so that's another piece of misinformation. Wake up and smell some actual facts.
Posted by CATMANEXE
@Brit said:
" As long as they don't make any musicals with Marvel characters on it. "
Marvel already did that themselves. Spider-Man The Broadway Musical.
 
@whirlwind6 said:
" Disney will decide what movies get made.  Just like WB does with DC.  That's why we never get any non Superman or Batman DC movies (besides movies from different genres, like Watchmen and Jonah Hex).  Wake up and smell the corruption, people. "



Oh noes!
Posted by OzzerOzby

So, Snow White and The Sinister Six?
Posted by ryanwh
@whirlwind6 said:
" Disney will decide what movies get made.  Just like WB does with DC.  That's why we never get any non Superman or Batman DC movies (besides movies from different genres, like Watchmen and Jonah Hex).  Wake up and smell the corruption, people. "
Pardon the candor but outside of Batman, Superman, and the indy stuff going on at Vertigo, who gives a damn about the DC superhero universe? Really now. Green Lantern only got interesting in the last couple of years and guess what, movie in the works. Beyond that? A whole lotta nothing.
And its worth pointing out even though Wonder Woman is a boring relic from 50s era female empowerment with a side of irony, she got a movie recently. Animated, yes, but then how does a woman in a ridiculous whorey outfit represent female empowerment in a modern world outside of a cartoon? Same for Turbo Girl. I like DC, really, but they don't even have a B grade, they've got their A grade (Bat and Sups) and they tumble down to C grade. Marvel has more known quantities if only because they got the designs right.
Posted by goldenkey

Disney did this because of the film factor.  The realization of timeless stories and endless material they can use along with the James Bond method of being able to cast differant actors for the same roll.  How many James Bond movies sucked, but becaues of what they can use for scripts they kept pushing them out and made money.  Now with the new Bond and seeing the success of Batman being relaunched you can update something good when it gets stale.  It's brilliant on Disney's part, and Marvel might be able to get some heavier advertising because of it now with their books.  I just hope they don't step on the staff writers feet and put their 2 cents in trying to mimic things that sell.  It could work, probebly better at first put only time will tell.  But there will be a lot more money for Marvel studios thats for sure.  Let's just pray the animation gets better, and maybe we can get a 3-D movie for a good hero.  Who wouldn't like to see Pixar make an X-men movie or an Avengers movie. 
Posted by TheOmegaMan
@Fenderman said:

"I wanna know whats gonna happen to the rides at Universal in Orlando now.  Disney now not only gets the Marvel brand and all the great opportunities for movies, merch and book revenue, but man they can now just about shut down their main competitionin Orlando!!  Or, to really twist it in, they might leave those rides there and then Universal has to pay royalties to Disney for the use of it!  IF you have been to Orlando and seen all the Billboards there for Universal you know its a big rivalry as Universal says you can "ride higher", "shout louder", etc. at Universal than you can at disney and on those billboards are Spiderman and the Hulk.  Now those are going to Disney.  I take my kids to ORlando every summer and I look forward to seeing Spiderman and Storm and Daredevil walking around the Aerosmith Roller Coaster.  BTW, I agree. I dont think Disney will change much if anything. Marvel is a great brand, why ruin it?  ITs making money now so they wont alter anything.  "


Actually, though Universal is known as competition for Disney if you check out this link provided it will show last years attendance totals. Magic Kingdom in DisneyWorld had about 17 million visitors while Universal had approx 6.25 million. So though Universal is in Florida I don't believe it did or will ever pose a threat to Disney.   
 
http://www.themeit.com/TEAERA2008.pdf 
 
But all in all i'm on board with this. I can't wait to see what Disney has in store for Marvel. Be afraid DC be very afraid!
Posted by The Black Hood
@jefprice: I have to say this tickles me in one regard.  Last week you schooled me when I complained about Marvel whoring out their characters to other studios and then the same studios making lackluster movies.  You're main point was how Marvel is still owned by Marvel and how DC was owned by a big faceless corporation run by euros.  Well now Marvel's sold out.  
 
Overall I think this will be a good thing for Marvel.  With solid financial backing maybe we won't have any more X-men 3, Wolverine Origins, or Ang Lee Hulks to deal with.
Posted by inferiorego
@ryanwh said:
" @whirlwind6 said:
" Disney will decide what movies get made.  Just like WB does with DC.  That's why we never get any non Superman or Batman DC movies (besides movies from different genres, like Watchmen and Jonah Hex).  Wake up and smell the corruption, people. "
Pardon the candor but outside of Batman, Superman, and the indy stuff going on at Vertigo, who gives a damn about the DC superhero universe? Really now. Green Lantern only got interesting in the last couple of years and guess what, movie in the works. Beyond that? A whole lotta nothing. And its worth pointing out even though Wonder Woman is a boring relic from 50s era female empowerment with a side of irony, she got a movie recently. Animated, yes, but then how does a woman in a ridiculous whorey outfit represent female empowerment in a modern world outside of a cartoon? Same for Turbo Girl. I like DC, really, but they don't even have a B grade, they've got their A grade (Bat and Sups) and they tumble down to C grade. Marvel has more known quantities if only because they got the designs right. "
I'm a hardcore DC fan, as well as many of the people on the site. I've essentially said this numerous of times, "Marvel is the gateway drug, and when you're ready for it, DC is the hard stuff." I was never this into DC until Marvel started dropping the balls the past three years.
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Posted by Korg
@inferiorego said:
"I'm a hardcore DC fan, as well as many of the people on the site. I've essentially said this numerous of times, "Marvel is the gateway drug, and when you're ready for it, DC is the hard stuff.""
I'm stealing this analogy. Just thought I'd let you know.
Posted by inferiorego
@Korg said:
" @inferiorego said:
"I'm a hardcore DC fan, as well as many of the people on the site. I've essentially said this numerous of times, "Marvel is the gateway drug, and when you're ready for it, DC is the hard stuff.""
I'm stealing this analogy. Just thought I'd let you know. "
That's fine with me
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