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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Movie Batman vs. Movie Dredd

"I am the law" takes on "I'm Batman!" Who's left standing?

The second live-action Comic Vine Battle of the Week places Gotham City's hero against the Mega-City One's badass officer. Judge Dredd obviously has a raw firepower advantage. His signature firearms offers a scary amount of projectile options and he's not afraid to use lethal force. Batman, however, has an edge in this environment and his use of stealth and skill could let him bring it into close range.

After a week of debate and voting, the Comic Vine community thinks Karl Urban's Judge Dredd would take out Christian Bale's Batman. 52% sided with The Dead Man, while 40% had The Dark Knight's back and only 7% thought this was too close to call.

Winner: The Law.

I agree with the majority on this one. I think the environment does favor Batman and give him a fighting chance, but I view Dredd's firearm (the Lawgiver) and other equipment as a solid advantage. It obviously takes more than a gun to beat Batman, but this isn't your ordinary gun and this certainly isn't your ordinary goon. If he wants to, he can engulf an entire section in flames, use explosive rounds or even deploy gas. Seeing as he won't hesitate to use fatal measures, I see no reason to believe why he wouldn't resort to any of these options, especially upon seeing Batman's use of a grappling line and stealth may make it too difficult to land a direct hit.

If Batman can get close, then yes, I do believe he would take it. Do I think this is a possible outcome? Absolutely, I wouldn't make a match if I couldn't imagine either side taking a victory, after all. The ample starting distance could let Batman take to a rooftop and then utilize his gear (batarangs and smoke) to get in close. From there, his superior hand-to-hand technique could eventually end it. At the same rate, Dredd could get off a lucky shot in close range, especially since we saw he's a more than capable close range combatant.

Wayne dominating in close range is definitely possibility, but I think Dredd's lethal and tactical mind of his own means he's going to make proper use of the Lawgiver and that's unfortunately something the Wayne's cowl won't be able to withstand. Bruce's undeniably more skilled and this environment does boost his odds, but ultimately, I think Dredd's mentality and sheer power will serve him well.

Viner Argument of the Week for Judge Dredd is by Jonny_Anonymous

"In my opinion Dredd takes this. Let's take a look at each character:

Experience

If this is DKR version of Batman that mean's he's went through three big events in his life, the League of Shadow's attack on Gotham, the Jokers reign of terror and Bane's takeover, in between each of these Batman has fought common thugs, Gotham is a ruff city but this isn't the comic book version and apart from the afore mentioned events most of the time Gotham isn't any worse the some of crappier cities in real life . Bruce has maybe spent about 5 active years as Batman with an 8 year gap between DK and DKR that's a pretty short amount of time in the grand scheme of things and the only pepole in that time to really test him physically was Bane and Ras.

At the start of Dredd, Jo is already a vet shown to be highly respected by the Hall of Justice's upper brass and tasked with helping train rookies, he's shown to be well versed in street smarts, strategy and the Rule of Law also Judge Dredd patrols Mega City One, a city that covers the ENTIRE eastern seaboard, that is a hell of a lot more territory to cover than Gotham and not only that but MC1 is a city that's went over the edge, it's almost complete anarchy with riots murders and straight up block wars happening on a daily basis, the citizen to judge ratio is so small (1 to 10,000 in the comic) that some blocks rarely even see them at that allows gangs to run some blocks like there own personal forts, even the events that take place during DREDD are implied to happen on a daily basis.

Winner: Dredd

Gear

Batman's standard gear would include his bat suit that is resistant to small arms fire directed at centre of mass but it's unknown whether it would hold up to sustained fire, it's also shown to be weak against piercing weapons and blunt force trauma, it's also unlikely to protect against armor piercing rounds or explosives. As for Batman's ranged weapons he has his Batarangs and grappling gun (has he ever used it in an offensive manner?) Bat's may also come equpped with smoke pellets and the Bat caller thing.

Dredd Is going to come equipped with a fully loaded Lawgiver Mk II that contains seven different modes of fire contained in three separate magazines, Hotshot (superheated round) Rapid (fully automatic) Full Metal Jacket (empties mag) High Ex (high explosives) Incendiary (white phosphorus) AP (armor piercing) Stun (electric discharge), the Lawgiver is DNA specific so that only it's owner can use it without it self-destructing (not that that matters since Bats wouldn't touch it) Dredd will also have number of stun and gas grenades. As for Dredd's armor and helmet it's bullet resistant but not bullet proof as shown when he's shot and wounded by armor piercing rounds but this is of little consequence since it will serve as enough protection against batarangs and blunt force.

Winner: Dredd

Physicals

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Batman comes out on top in this category, we actually get to see his training and he shows his fighting prowess by taking out almost every adversary by hand to hand and only ever really having problems with Bane and Ras.

Dredd is a competent brawler and will be well trained by the Hall of Justice but we don't really get to see much of it on screen, the only h2h is short and brutal and Jo seems to struggle slightly, his only advantage would be his pain soak since he was able to take a AP round to the gut and after clamping it keep on chugging like it was nothing.

Winner: Batman

Recap:

So in short if Batman get's in close his skill will eventually overpower Dredd's damage soak and take him down BUT Dredd has to much tactical skill and the long range firepower to allow that to happen.

DREDD WINS"

The majority and I think Judge Dredd wins, but let's see what some other people have to say about it.

Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring, Comic Vine staff writer

"Two men with grizzly voices. One of them is the stick of justice and the other one is the law. Listen, I'm a huge Batman fan, but movieverse Batman is a bit of a whinebox. "Oh no, my knee hurts! Oh no, my back is killing me!' Stop whining and start fighting! You know what movie Dredd did when he got his butt kicked? He fought back. LIKE A MAN! Seriously. Dredd is tougher. Dredd is better. Dredd will win. HE IS THE LAW."

Duane Swierczynski, writer of JUDGE DREDD

"Is there even a debate? Dredd would have the rich boy in bat PJs doing a hard 50 in the iso-cubes before you could blink."

Agree? Disagree? Give the comments section a piece of your mind, Viners.

Lastly, here's a teaser for next week's battle. This brawl will hit the homepage on Monday, so check back then!

Previous 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' results

Want to suggest a battle? Feel free to comment below or send it to Gregg via Twitter.

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Edited by laflux

Taskmaster and Batman.

Posted by theTimeStreamer

so taskmaster vs ....... a batman family member. not sure who.

Posted by Lvenger

Looks like Taskmaster vs Batman will be next week's battle. Is there any point to this though if you were planning to do this in your Does Batman always win? article? Just curious is all. Should be an interesting match up.

Edited by Jonny_Anonymous

Haha I love Duane Swierczynski's comment lol

Edited by k4tzm4n

@lvenger said:

Looks like Taskmaster vs Batman will be next week's battle. Is there any point to this though if you were planning to do this in your Does Batman always win? article? Just curious is all. Should be an interesting match up.

Sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by Lvenger

@k4tzm4n: Well obviously, there's nothing to see here

Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

I agree with the verdict. IT IS THE LAW.

Next battle will be interesting. We probably all know who will win though.

Posted by BlueLanternBeast

I'm pretty sure we've had this match-up before. It was when we were doing the Batman Vs... ones

Edited by TheBournePoster

Here is the Batman picture.

Posted by k4tzm4n
Posted by k4tzm4n

Here is the Batman picture.

What? That looks NOTHING like the image used in the article.

Edited by Vulcan786

It does, background and silhouette.

I think the other one is Taskmaster, ill try and find a matching picture.

EDIT: Done and done

Edited by New_World_Order

Let's get one between powerhouses.

Posted by cameron83

@laflux said:

Taskmaster and Batman.

I say Taskmaster....

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

"Inhabitants of Gotham, this is Judge Dredd. In case you people have forgotten, this city operates under the same rules as the rest of the country. Batman is not the law... I am the law."

Posted by Lvenger

Let's get one between powerhouses.

I agree though powerhouse fights are trickier to judge the outcome too. Not to mention the arguing they can cause.

Posted by DEGRAAF

See i would think the first thing Batman would do against Dredd is take his weapons from him (knocking the gun away and depowering the bike with a taser or something, at least Dredd away from his bike and gun)

Posted by MuyJingo

Still rooting for an Ironman vs Batman matchup. Since this is about popularity and debating who would win, it should be interesting.

Posted by ShadowX

Two batmans in a row? I know tehy are differnt universes but yeah idk... Im sure it will be good.

Posted by johnkmccubbin91

Great that Dredd won, cause although I love Batman, Dredd is the law.

Posted by TheBournePoster
Posted by sinestro_GL

Batman next week again? Not complaining or anything...but I kinda like some variation...

Posted by AlKusanagi

Batman vs Squirrel Girl.

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Posted by RoTheKid

@k4tzm4n I've got a suggestion for a fight. But, do you do animation battles as well? I'm thinking the current Marvel Avengers Assemble team vs. the Justice League team from Justice League: Doom. Is that "legal"? What do you say, Gregg?

Edited by HushoftheWind

Can Batman catch a freaking break, damn. Shouldnt that be Prometheus vs Tasky and instead Batman. jeez. Doesn't Batman already have a segment called "Does Batman always win?"

Posted by RoTheKid

@k4tzm4n Oh, Gregg, I have another suggestion. If you're doing animation battles, how about the team from Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon vs. the Justice League team from Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths.

Posted by cameron83
Posted by WaveMotionCannon

Totally with the Dredd victory.

I think Taskmaster has a good chance to take Bats out also, this one will be good.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@rothekid: Yes, I'm absolutely going to eventually use animated characters.

It does, background and silhouette.

I think the other one is Taskmaster, ill try and find a matching picture.

EDIT: Done and done

Cool picture, but I totally don't see the resemblance!

Posted by druzod2501

I chose Bats because I still have a hard time believing that even movie Bruce woudn't find a way to consistantly evade Lawgiver's superior firepower.

And after watching the movie I'm convinced Karl Urban should NEVER be the next movie Batman

Edited by mightypug78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sI6eFarFE

i fought the law and the law won

Posted by RedHood13

If this was a battle between the comic version Bats would've won, but if movie Bats can't take a rotwheiler he cant take Dredd

Edited by God_Spawn

K4tzm4n vs K4tzm4zter for next week? I already have an argument written out. MWAHAHAHAH!!!

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Posted by herrweis

OK,so so far we got 6 batman universe characters in these comic vine battles.nightwing, red hood,catman, deadshot, movie batman and now comic batman.aren't there other people than bat characters?

Posted by progenitor

Albert Wesker (games) vs. Aldrich Killian (IM3).

Posted by GodDamnIronMan

Totally agree with the outcome.

As for the next battle, I can see Taskmaster take it....but Batman has shown some serious endurance in New52...hmmm....could go either way, probably vote for "Too close to call".

Posted by Decept-O

Agreed about the outcome of this one but again, too close of a margin from voters. Oh well.

Another Batman battle? Um..OK.

Posted by k4tzm4n

I love how everyone thinks they know what the next battle is.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY OWLMAN VS. THE HOOD.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@thundergodswrath said:

Let's get one between powerhouses.

They're way more difficult to balance and things tend to get uglier in those discussions, but I've been brainstorming for a few of them down the road.

Posted by Pokergeist

Posted by manwithoutshame

"Eat Judge Boot Batboy!"

Posted by Raiden1106

Guessing next is Cassandra Cain and Taskmaster

Edited by Shallbecomeabattoo

Still disagree heavily with the outcome. Especially Matt's statement reeks of Nolan Batman hate, which was the main advantage on Dredds side. Oh well...

Posted by Deranged Midget

Definitely agreed on the result. Dredd's gear is insanely superior to anything that Bruce has and his armour has no chance of tanking any of his shots, especially the armour-piercing rounds, which Dredd took through the chest, patched up and continued on with no evidence of injury slowing him down.

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Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

This was an obvious win for Dredd. Anyone with common sense could've figured this out. The only people in denial are Bat fanboys. Earth 2 Bats vs Taskmaster should be good.

Posted by SoA

im going to say tasky takes it

Edited by iaconpoint

I'm a huge Batman fan to the point I have my bathroom and car decorated in Batman gear, but anyone who voted for DKT Batman over movie Dredd didn't see those movies. DKT Batman would die a quick a painless death in any other universe, especially the one in the Dredd movie. Christian Bale Batman went out like a kitten, Karl Urban Dredd roared like a lion.

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