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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Daredevil vs. Bloodshot

Who's left standing after these two duke it out? Come see the results and key arguments made for both sides!

This week, Valiant's super-soldier took on the man without fear from Marvel. While Daredevil is undeniably more skilled and more agile, his moves just weren't enough to convince the Comic Vine crowd that he'd win this fight. Ultimately, a majority of the community -- 56% to be exact -- sided with Bloodshot. However, Daredevil's experience gave him a respectable chunk of the poll, earning 38% of the votes. Only 6% believed this was too close to call and was basically a coin flip.

Bloodshot does indeed have some key advantages in this fight. First and foremost, his nanites grant him a superb healing factor. He's endured massive amounts of damage and kept on trucking (most recently his face was smashed into the pavement with so much force it lifted nearby cars... he was chatting moments later). Additionally, the nanites can help numb his pain and he'll absolutely need that since Daredevil has a significant edge in skill and will be landing way more hits. His nanites also offer him a huge wild card: a sonic scream and a synaptic burst. Both moves are rare and appear to be only be used in last resort scenarios, but the fact remains, the scream could give him a huge edge and the burst would spell game over for Matt immediately. Seeing as he may withstand a relentless assault here, it's fair to assume these could be used. In addition to being tough as nails, Valiant's anti-hero also has enhanced level strength. If he gets his hands on Daredevil, he holds the potential to dish out some major damage.

On the other hand, there's no denying there's a rather large gap when comparing their skill, agility and reflexes. Bloodshot's stated as having enhanced speed, but at the end of the day, the dude has done nothing with his speed or skill to even come close to what Murdock has displayed. Daredevil's a master of pressure points and nerve strikes and, when asked on Twitter, current BLOODSHOT writer, Christos Gage, said he believes nerve strikes would indeed work on Bloodshot -- but he'd recover faster than a normal human. Still, upon seeing regular strikes and blunt force won't cut it, it's absolutely plausible to believe Murdock could start dropping various nerve strikes and, in turn, slowly disabling his opponent and leaving him open to even more hits. Thanks to his batons, he could also temporarily incapacitate Bloodshot by tying him up (like he did recently against Deadpool) and there's simply no disputing Murdock has a large edge when it comes to mobility (both reflexes and agility). Murdock has casually danced around talented gunmen and has the reflexes required to even deflect projectiles with his billy clubs. This will definitely cancel out Bloodshot's use of firearms at a distance, especially since Bloodshot has never shown any accuracy feats which would put him on par with someone like Bullseye -- a phenomenal marksman Daredevil can dodge.

In the end, the majority made some good arguments in favor of Bloodshot. It does seem logical to assume Bloodshot will take quite a beating, but his endurance and brutal mentality should allow him to eventually turn the tide with one good connect -- be it a firearm in close range, resorting to his scream/burst or finally getting ahold of Murdock. It'll take awhile for him to land a game changing hit and it's absolutely fair to think Daredevil will reign supreme, but when Bloodshot finally does get a window of opportunity, you can bet he's going to make proper use of it.

Let's check out some great arguments presented for both sides.

Viner Argument of the Week for Bloodshot is by SavageDragon

"'Pain is a weakness leaving the body.'

That slogan is often associated with the Marine Core or other armed services or even some professional sports, but in the case of Bloodshot, its a standard that he lives by.

Bloodshot's powers are as documented

Nanotech infused bloodstream that can heal at the sub-celluar level, reconnecting torn tissue and nerve fibers and heal massive organ trauma. These billions of nanites can him resistant to extremes of heat and cold and toxic environments.

Enchanced stamina, sight, hearing (ultrasonic) speed, strength and reaction time.

Ability to "morph" or shapechange for brief periods of time.

"Neuron-nanite quantum interface" allows Bloodshot to retrieve, transmit, and manipulate electromagnetic wavelengths and frequencies and directly interface with and CONTROL electronic computerized machinery

Total badass

So given these powers and Duane Swierczynski's run on the Valiant mercenary and all the brutal punishment Bloodshot has withstood and dished out I see very little that DD could do to Bloodshot that would put him down. Lets face it to, both combatants are "in character" and Bloodshot is a KILLING MACHINE both literally and figurative. He doesn't hesitate, and would not against the Man Without Fear. Considering DD's martial arts and amazing acrobatic skills I believe it would be a good fight, but after the barrage of bullets, explosives, knives and all manner of weapons are exhausted I see Bloodshot coming out on top. This soldier has literally been blown apart by drone strikes, grenades, heavy machine gun and even chainsawed and he has put most of the people who stand against him in the ground. Bloodshot's fight to lose. I say he wins it 7/10 times."

Viner Argument of the Week for Daredevil is by Paniac

"I'll go with Dardevil. Let me explain why.

First, i won't use the fact that Dardevil has fought numerous opponents just as impressive as Bloodshot while the opposite isn't true : That would'nt be fair for the Valiant's soldier . DD appeared in thousand of issues during decades. Bloodshot did not, but that doesn't make him less dangerous.

Sure, Bloodshot is a viscious and well trained figther and carries an impressive arsenal, but better marksmen than him have tried and failed to shot DD on countless occasions. BS is no Bullseye by far. Bullets can give him a win or two at best, but no more. It's the same for his sonic scream : It's definitly a very powerful weapon against DD, but he doesn't use it frequently and, most of all, he won't know how efficient it is. Only the smartest among DD's adversaries have been able to understand that the guy in red is blind and use enhanced senses, and BS is not the smartest man in the world. This could give him at best another one or two victories IF he uses it, and even if he does, the environnement gives Matt a little chance to escape long enough to recover.

Then it comes to hand to hand, where Dardevil seriously outclasses his opponent. He will land numerous hits on the guy, then realize he is one of these pain-in-the-ass-healing-factor-dudes. Sure, he could be suprised at first and let an opening to BS for a winning punch, but overconfidence isn't really one of Murdock's weaknesses, so it's pretty unlikely.

Now, many people assume that Dardevil can't win because he can't incapacitate Bloodshot for long due to his regenerative abilities and pain tolerance, even with pressure points or, for example, by making him fall from a roof. This would be true in a deathmatch, but the battle rules say "Knockout, incapacitation or death all count as elimination.". There is no time limit, so if this happens, it doesn't matter if Bloodshot is out for only a few seconds : he lost. Period. The Cosmic Judge of the Comic Vine Battles (yes, he exists !) will show up, raise Matt's arm and give him the victory.

Of course, DD could also tie him up like a sausage... That would actually be funny !

Though fight, but Dardevil wins in most cases I think."

Viners, There's no teaser for next week's battle because it'll be an all-new BATMAN BATTLE OF THE MONTH! Get pumped.

Previous 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' results

Want to suggest a Battle of the Week? Feel free to comment below or send it to Gregg via Twitter. It doesn't have to be Marvel or DC!

35 Comments
Posted by reaperOnyx

Even though, I love DD, I kinda saw this coming

Posted by Master_Thief

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

Posted by k4tzm4n

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats an unfair fight

Fixed :P

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Edited by MuyJingo

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

I don't think Batman would have a chance with the spidey sense...

Then there's the strength advantage....

Posted by TheImmortalBeaver

@muyjingo: I'd agree, but only in the first fight. Batman's thing is always preparation, and while that might be a huge part of Otto's MO as well, he would have the immediate physical advantage in almost every key area. Beyond that, it would be hard to say who would win, as any subsequent fights would take place with both of them having foreknowledge of the other combatant, and they would both prepare accordingly. There would be so many gadget-based counters and counter-counters that it'd be hard to call.

...assuming that Otto doesn't just lose due to his arrogance. That's entirely plausible.

Edited by sasquatch888

@muyjingo:

@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

batman could win i dont know how but he could ...thats the nature of batman....winning vs impossible odds mentally of physically ...look at court of owls ...has otto's resolve been tested like that as spidey...in a physical confrontation it would seem like superior spidey would win but batman has made a career out of beating overconfident superpowered foes so my money's on batman,,,his will is unmatched and otto has so much conflict in his motivations he's torn living a lie and arrogant

Posted by AllStarSuperman

I Agree Batman >> superior spiderman...... NOT!!!

Edited by Patera_All

Only one thing bothers me worse than when people whine about "Batfans" saying he wins no matter what... and thats when stupid Batfans prove them right.

Edited by MuyJingo

@sasquatch888: @theimmortalbeaver: Yeah I agree...but look at the parameters of these battles.

No prep, no knowledge, first time meeting in a city at night 50 feet apart.

Batman would have to retreat against spider in that case...

Edited by cdw101

How the hell did this turn into a batman argument?!! how annoying!!!!!!

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Edited by sasquatch888

@muyJingo

Yeah I agree...but look at the parameters of these battles.

No prep, no knowledge, first time meeting in a city at night 50 feet apart.

Batman would have to retreat against spider in that case...

.you are right about that,,,unless batman caught superior by surprise and i dont mean sneaking up on him ,,,i mean by surprise gadget wise he'd have to retreat ,,,superior could possibly underestimate batman and batman does know every known martial art so anythings possible ,,,batman also knows pressure points and judo and all about leverage so he could use an overconfident spidey-ocks strength against him...i know batman is just a normal human but he's peak in most attributes and were talking about batman a guy who had a an extra savage personality purposely pre embedded in his brain in case he had a mental breakdown (during batman R.I.P.) this dude thinks of everything ,,,he should NEVER be underestimated ...if anything he's most likely the most dangerous non super powered adversary in comics ...even pre 52 darksied backed down from batmans threats .

Posted by ZZoMBiE13

I'm not invested enough in this either way. But it was interesting to read the Viner Arguments even though I didn't personally weigh in with the poll. I'm just not passionate enough about either entrant to try and sway the results, better to let the truer fans duke it out in this scenario than to punch and uninformed fanboyish vote.

Good article, as always. Thanks @k4tzm4n

Edited by k4tzm4n

@zzombie13: Thank you.

Everyone else: you're welcome to talk about Batman (it is a Batman Battle of the Month next week, after all), but try to do so without making it personal. Disrespecting and name-calling people who don't share your opinion is just petty and only goes against the point you're trying to make.

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Posted by Netshyster

The idea that Batman has any hope of beating Spider-Man is ludicrous, there wouldn't even be anything you could really call a fight.

Edited by ckal

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

LOL stop.

@muyjingo:

@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

batman could win i dont know how but he could ...thats the nature of batman....winning vs impossible odds mentally of physically ...look at court of owls ...has otto's resolve been tested like that as spidey...in a physical confrontation it would seem like superior spidey would win but batman has made a career out of beating overconfident superpowered foes so my money's on batman,,,his will is unmatched and otto has so much conflict in his motivations he's torn living a lie and arrogant

LOL this post. Batman fans -facepalm-

@k4tzm4n said:
@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats an unfair fight

Fixed :P

QFT

Posted by Med

I liked this matchup. Instead of a match between two combatants with similar skills and tactics, we get a scenario with two characters who excel at very different things. It's very interesting and prevents a basic 'Who's better?' argument. You really end up thinking of the scenario. Good on you, Katz.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@med said:

I liked this matchup. Instead of a match between two combatants with similar skills and tactics, we get a scenario with two characters who excel at very different things. It's very interesting and prevents a basic 'Who's better?' argument. You really end up thinking of the scenario. Good on you, Katz.

Thank you very much, med. Happy to see the time I put into these are appreciated :D

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Posted by Jsavs

For anybody wondering on the spiddrman/batman fight........its already been done. just go to youtube and type in death battle.... would be nice if comicvine and screwattack could somehow join together for these "battles"

Posted by k4tzm4n

Just so everyone knows, I previously said I wouldn't make Batman vs. Spider-Man.

However, I didn't say anything about other versions of both characters :-O

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Posted by TrueMarvel

Superior Spiderman would destroy Batman. It won't even be fair. SpiderOck at this point in his development is Marvel's Version of Batman gone wrong. I'm dead serious. Read some of that bullshit, and you will see that batman stands very little chance, unless SpiderOck beats himself. By that I mean, HE makes a mistake that causes his undoing. And in a fight where neither combatant has prior knowledge of each other? So batman can't prep? Batman will get his ass handed to him. Badly.

Seriously read some Superior Spiderman comics. "SpOck" as of know is pretty OP(overpowered)

Posted by TrueMarvel

@muyJingo

Yeah I agree...but look at the parameters of these battles.

No prep, no knowledge, first time meeting in a city at night 50 feet apart.

Batman would have to retreat against spider in that case...

.you are right about that,,,unless batman caught superior by surprise and i dont mean sneaking up on him ,,,i mean by surprise gadget wise he'd have to retreat ,,,superior could possibly underestimate batman and batman does know every known martial art so anythings possible ,,,batman also knows pressure points and judo and all about leverage so he could use an overconfident spidey-ocks strength against him...i know batman is just a normal human but he's peak in most attributes and were talking about batman a guy who had a an extra savage personality purposely pre embedded in his brain in case he had a mental breakdown (during batman R.I.P.) this dude thinks of everything ,,,he should NEVER be underestimated ...if anything he's most likely the most dangerous non super powered adversary in comics ...even pre 52 darksied backed down from batmans threats .

You are clueless. Spider-Sense kinda eliminates any sort of surprise batman has in store. Spiderman knows Martial Arts too: "The Way of The Spider". According to the marvel universe, it surpasses any human level martial arts style. And saying Batman can be savage is redundant considering Spider Ock has NO PROBLEM killing. None. Not underestimating batman, but spiderock/spiderman is ALWAYS underestimated.

Posted by Onemoreposter

@muyJingo

Yeah I agree...but look at the parameters of these battles.

No prep, no knowledge, first time meeting in a city at night 50 feet apart.

Batman would have to retreat against spider in that case...

.you are right about that,,,unless batman caught superior by surprise and i dont mean sneaking up on him ,,,i mean by surprise gadget wise he'd have to retreat ,,,superior could possibly underestimate batman and batman does know every known martial art so anythings possible ,,,batman also knows pressure points and judo and all about leverage so he could use an overconfident spidey-ocks strength against him...i know batman is just a normal human but he's peak in most attributes and were talking about batman a guy who had a an extra savage personality purposely pre embedded in his brain in case he had a mental breakdown (during batman R.I.P.) this dude thinks of everything ,,,he should NEVER be underestimated ...if anything he's most likely the most dangerous non super powered adversary in comics ...even pre 52 darksied backed down from batmans threats .

Yeah. An absolute epic moment in comics. I miss Michael Turner every time I see that page.

Posted by sasquatch888

@ckal said:
@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

LOL stop.

@sasquatch888 said:

@muyjingo:

@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats a fight

batman could win i dont know how but he could ...thats the nature of batman....winning vs impossible odds mentally of physically ...look at court of owls ...has otto's resolve been tested like that as spidey...in a physical confrontation it would seem like superior spidey would win but batman has made a career out of beating overconfident superpowered foes so my money's on batman,,,his will is unmatched and otto has so much conflict in his motivations he's torn living a lie and arrogant

LOL this post. Batman fans -facepalm-

@k4tzm4n said:
@master_thief said:

Batman Vs Superior Spiderman

Now thats an unfair fight

Fixed :P

QFT

its funny to me ...has'nt batman been winning since 1939, is'nt batman one of the best hand to hand combatants in the dc universe , i think Otto won his first battle vs spidey when he switched bodies with him , is'nt batman the worlds greatest detective ...if he was on the avengers (hypothetical) batman would have already figured out spidey is otto ,,,many people on here really hate batman because he does anything possible and his resourcefulness is unmatched in comics but i dont write his stories ,i just read them and all i see is batman overcoming impossible odds ,(knightfall, court of owls, Batman R.I.P) against the sickest most twisted minds in the dc universe ...from an alley way fighting thugs to apokolips using mr miracle's weapons to slap box darksied he's done it all . i just call it like i see it. his tactical mind is superior to otto but not his physical attributes ( i read superior spidey too) ...i get it ,but the list of foes defeated by batman with superior attributes has more names than the phone book . ..remember batman loves when his foes underestimate him ,,,that helps him win ,,,just like his foes here are underestimating him here ,,,he would surprise you and win

Posted by SavageDragon

@k4tzm4n Thanks for the shout out Gregg! Really appreciate getting on the board especially for Bloodshot, Valiant is awesome. Keep it up these are great articles, maybe at one point we will see a matchup between either DC's Demon Knights or Justice League Dark against some Marvel supernatural teams.

Posted by sasquatch888

@truemarvel: i do read every issue of superior yeah he's amazing but you know you know its gonna end eventually ...you know Slott will bring back peter parker so as superior as he is he's destined to lose in the end ,,,isnt that what were all waiting for to see how his deception goes down in flames? obviously his whole purpose is to lose. batman fought white martians remember that? after the justice league was defeated batman saved them, ottos been around a year as superior and you got him beating batman,,,he mostly beat all of spideys usual suspects and hes fought locally in new york ...batman is international ....aliens fear batman lol

Posted by jwalser3

Even though, I love DD, I kinda saw this coming

Posted by k4tzm4n

@k4tzm4n Thanks for the shout out Gregg! Really appreciate getting on the board especially for Bloodshot, Valiant is awesome. Keep it up these are great articles, maybe at one point we will see a matchup between either DC's Demon Knights or Justice League Dark against some Marvel supernatural teams.

It was a good argument!

Yeah, magic users will be tough to use, but we'll get there one day.

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Posted by cameron83

@jwalser3 said:

@reaperonyx said:

Even though, I love DD, I kinda saw this coming

this. I mean,I can see why Daredevil can win,but the odds are more in favor of Bloodshot,who can heal from any attack DD can throw and has an attack that exploits DD's main weakness.

Posted by SoA

voted DD but im not upset i knew it would be close

Posted by hart7668

Still waitin' on that Pre-52 Grundy vs Pre-52 Mongul!

Posted by Life_Without_Progress

@reaperonyx: after all the brutality Ock has been dishing out on minor & major supervillains, Bruce really doesn't stand a chance against him

Posted by Jake Fury

Nice work @k4tzm4n and I am still taking credit for getting you into Valiant ;-)

As for the fight, I was late chiming in (as always) but I think Bloodshot's durability and extra abilities give him the win. I could see DD disarming him pretty quickly of his standard weapons and giving him a pretty brutal pounding with his speed and striking skills. I just don't think that'd be enough to put down Bloodhsot and in the end his scream and burst would be last resorts that would succeed in putting Matt down.