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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Daredevil vs. Nightwing

A winner has been determined by the community and one character took a slight edge. Plus, find out what NIGHTWING writer Kyle Higgins and the CV staff thinks about this brawl!

Voting for the first edition of the 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' has come to an end! There are so many great matches to choose from and I'm stoked to use them down the road, but I thought Daredevil vs. Nightwing was an excellent way to kick things off. Both are hugely skilled, incredibly agile and use similar melee weapons. However, there are a few key differences between the two and that's what makes this battle so debatable. Over the week, 480+ Viners voted and plenty dove into extended debates on this battle between two heroes. The results are in and, while it was certainly close, Daredevil is the winner!

This image is clearly taken from a canon comic...

The Man without Fear earned 52% of the votes, while Dick Grayson took 42% and 5% thought it was a stalemate. I must say, I agree with the majority on this one. While there's no doubt this would be a superb melee to watch, I think Daredevil's superior displays of skill (far more frequent use of nerve strikes) and impressive reflexes (regularly cuts and deflects bullets) would let him edge out a victory. Yes, Grayson has a massive variety of gear on his side, but in a one-on-one fight, he's not exactly prone to using the more dangerous options (sonics, suit taser, etc) unless they're absolutely required. Sure, Grayson's obviously a superior detective and it is definitely possible he'd pick up on Matt's enhanced senses over time, but I think it's more probable Daredevil's technique would overcome before Grayson detects his weakness or can utilize the game changing resources he has. That said, the longer this fight goes on, the more it'll shift in Grayson's favor. It's by no means a stomp for either character and it's definitely a solid fight. A reasonable argument can be made for either hero, but in this case, the majority and I side with Daredevil!

Viner Argument of the Week

There were plenty of great arguments made for both characters and every week I'm going to highlight one in favor of the winning character. This week, I'm picking one by Comic Vine mod god_spawn. It's concise and manages to address quite a few key points.

"Daredevil. He's already shown better reflexes, close agility feats, better strength feats IMO, and DD's shown better skill feats. If you want to compare to top tier fighters so bad, Nightwing has been wrecked twice by Bane. He couldn't even touch Bruce when Bruce didn't want him to. And Nightwing has been given tough fights from Jason Todd. Whereas Daredevil has given Captain America good fights, Iron Fist good fights IIRC, and given Wolverine a good fight. People seem to think just because Dick was trained by Batman seems to make people believe that they are the cream of the crop when it comes to skilled fighting just because of that which is completely false. By that logic, Tim Drake would be in the top of DC and Nightwing isn't in there either. Nightwing does not always resort to his gear. Getting space from DD will be extremely difficult considering the radar sense will keep him one step ahead of Dick in terms of action and reaction. Just because Nightwing has something does not mean he will use it."

I think Daredevil wins, but what about some of the other Comic Vine staffers?

Corey ' Undeadpool' Schroeder:

"I think this is Daredevil's fight to lose. He's got the ninja training, he's got the radar senses but much more importantly: he's got the raw experience. It's something that not a lot of people are going to realize, I feel, but Murdock's in his mid thirties while Nightwing is still a pup in his very early 20s. So while Nightwing may have his body-language reads, Daredevil has almost the same thing with his heightened senses, but ol' Hornhead's very simply put in far more hours and that's something that can be neither taught nor bought. Daredevil all the way."

Jen 'MissJ' Aprahamian:

"I'm going to have to go with Nightwing on this one, although it's an incredibly close match. My "Deadliest Warrior" style battle synopsis looks like this: Nightwing would kick things off with an early ranged attack to assess his opponent's abilities, but Daredevil's radar sense would give him an early edge, and Nightwing's initial attacks (likely with batarangs and bolos) would be easily rebuffed. Nightwing, being an ultra-keen observer (as seen in NIGHTWING #19 and #20), would notice Daredevil's incredible reflexes, but would also identify things that other opponents might not -- including Daredevil's blindness. At this point, things would go hand-to-hand (with Daredevil bringing out the billy club as needed, and Nightwing countering with escrima sticks), and we'd get a beautiful, acrobatic fight. Daredevil would grab the upper hand and deliver a sound beating to Nightwing, but during the confrontation, Nightwing would catch onto Daredevil's other heightened senses. In order to grab the win, he'd briefly stun Daredevil with electrified escrima sticks and then use a sonic batarang to push Daredevil into sensory overload. And, of course, he'd stick the landing."

And what does Kyle Higgins, the current writer of NIGHTWING, think about this fight?

"In my opinion, it all depends on how quick (if at all) Nightwing can figure out that Daredevil relies on heightened senses/radar. If he can deduce that, he's a few gadgets away from screwing with DD's navigation system enough to make it a fight. Of course, there's also the variable of "what kind of mood is Mark Waid in while he's writing this" (come on, is there ANYONE else you'd rather see write this fight?!?). I'm pretty sure he could come up with sixteen clever ways to take down either character without the other breaking a sweat."

Lastly, here's a hint for next week's battle. Check the homepage on Monday to see who's facing off next!

Gregg Katzman is a freelance writer for Comic Vine and IGN Entertainment. This is the part where he shamelessly plugs his Twitter page in hopes of getting a new follower or two.

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Posted by AllStarSuperman

yes first! im mad though Nightwing should have won.

Edited by Dernman

You totally ruined your article for me now that i've seen those silhouettes. I've forgotten everything you wrote and can only think about placing different people to see/guess who fits. Giving us a mystery is like waving a bone in front of a dog. Ahwoooo! :p

PS I agree that Daredevil takes the win. Wait didn't I just say I forgot what you wrote? >__>

Edited by G_Money_Christmas

Is that War Machine and who else? Captain America? I voted Daredevil and I argued his victory as much as I could.

Also, these aren't DC vs. Marvel battles, are they? They're just whoever you'd like to see in a fight?

Posted by Nightwing_Beyond

Sonics. That is all.

Edited by BlueValleyKid

Nightwing can see

Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan

I voted DD 7/10, close fight regardless, great article too! I like the Viner Argument of the week part a lot as well. Now the only thing I need to know is who's silhouettes are those.

Posted by lilcraig92

I cant see why nightwing got smash by bane but not by deathstroke and they are clearly on difference levels.

It depends on the writer bcuz on secret six or wateva it is, I think he made bane and them run off.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@dernman said:

You totally ruined your article for me now that i've seen those silhouettes. I've forgotten everything you wrote and can only think about placing different people to see/guess who fits. Giving us a mystery is like waving a bone in front of a dog. Ahwoooo! :p

PS I agree that Daredevil takes the win. Wait didn't I just say I forgot what you wrote? >__>

:D

Is that War Machine and who else? Captain America? I voted Daredevil and I argued his victory as much as I could.

Also, these aren't DC vs. Marvel battles, are they? They're just whoever you'd like to see in a fight?

Correct, anyone in comics in fair game. That said... the next is Marvel vs. DC as well.

Edited by Nightwing_Beyond

@k4tzm4n said:

@dernman said:

You totally ruined your article for me now that i've seen those silhouettes. I've forgotten everything you wrote and can only think about placing different people to see/guess who fits. Giving us a mystery is like waving a bone in front of a dog. Ahwoooo! :p

PS I agree that Daredevil takes the win. Wait didn't I just say I forgot what you wrote? >__>

:D

@g_money_christmas said:

Is that War Machine and who else? Captain America? I voted Daredevil and I argued his victory as much as I could.

Also, these aren't DC vs. Marvel battles, are they? They're just whoever you'd like to see in a fight?

Correct, anyone in comics in fair game. That said... the next is Marvel vs. DC as well.

My guess is Captain America vs. Deathstroke. That right image looks similar to Deathstroke's pose from the cover of issue #15.

Edited by Azura_Thena

I am satisfied with the results. Seems Higgins shares a similar opinion as Mr. Katzman.

Posted by mattitude22

awsome fight cant wait for next weeks

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

Is that War Machine and who else? Captain America? I voted Daredevil and I argued his victory as much as I could.

Also, these aren't DC vs. Marvel battles, are they? They're just whoever you'd like to see in a fight?

I'm pretty sure it's Captain America Vs Deathstroke

Posted by csantilli27

I'm more of a Nightwing than Daredevil but even I have to say Daredevil would win

Posted by TheManInTheShoe

I found the picture that's shadowed (one of them at least) It's Cap and I'm pretty sure Deathstroke (with the sword and rifle on his back.

Posted by Azura_Thena

My best guess is Ultimate Captain America vs Deathstroke.

Posted by BlueLantern1995

Looks like next fight has War Machine but it also could be Deathstroke(which makes more sense), Captain America looks like the other person...so Captain America vs Deathstroke?

Edited by JamesKM716

I thought it was War MAchine, but now i am thiunking Deathstroke and Cap

Of which, i think Deathstroke is the obvious winner,.

Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

I think I was the 5%...

Posted by The Stegman

Daredevil would win, buy I voted for Nightwing outta favoritism.

Cap vs Deathstroke will be good though.

Posted by ShadowX

My guess is Captain America vs. Deathstroke or Caltain America vs. cain? Maybe?

Posted by Howard_Go

DD

Edited by GodDamnIronMan

Yes! Deathstroke vs Cap. America next match...

I wanted to say Cap. , but if it is all Standard Equipments for both...Deathstroke has slight advantage.

Edited by detective38

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: me too! I think if you have a very deep knowledge of both characters then youd ser it would be too close of a fight to call

Posted by daredevil21134

DD owns again

Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek

@detective38: Yeah I said that Nightwing in terms of hand-to-hand combat was on-par with Daredevil. Matt had the advantage of sonar senses, which could dodge most of the Bat-Gadgets, and was a superior martial artist (though not by much for it to be a stomp). Nightwing on the other hand, can hold his own against Matt and is a lot more versatile with his gadgets. A select few of the gadgets could KO Daredevil, like the Sonic Batarang. Bruce is a detective, so Nightwing obviously picked up some of Batman's tactics. That being said, Daredevil could KO Dick before he has a chance to figure it out. Oh, and I almost forgot.

:)

Posted by Dark_Vengeance_

Deathstroke.

Edited by paralaxsteve

This is a tough one and very evenly matched. But I think that Nightwing would win this one especially with that new body language reading power thing he has now.

Posted by Decept-O

How could it have even been this close? At least DD did win it. Good call posting the Viner Argument of the Week.

Posted by laflux

@k4tzm4n: God_Spawn's ego was already big enough before you highlighted him >.< . As for the next Battle, Captain America vs Deathstroke. SPAM DES GUNZZ BABY :DDD!!!1

Posted by slade_wilson

This shouldn't have been close. DD all the way.

Psyched for my battle with Cap next week!

Edited by HushoftheWind

I respect and like both characters but i kinda figure the masses would vote for DD or Nightwing since Marvel promote their character abilities and feats better (imo). I think a couple of years down the line once everyone see how bada$$ new 52 Dick Grayson this argument will be split 50/50 or even tilted more towards Grayson favor 52/48. Me personally i believe Dick would win ultimately b/c of DD's radar senses or heighten senses in general. I think's DD downfall in that match up and honestly with Grayson sporting a new ability (maybe new or heighten through training) of body reading it shouldn't take him long to know what DD abilities are. #myopinion

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Posted by SupermanJohnathanKentJr

Woo, I thought NW would win because Nightwing has some extreme fans. I'm glad DD pulled through. I have no clue who'd actually win since I've read so little on both. Nightwing recommendations would be much appreciated.

Posted by Timotheus316

I think next week is Santa Claus vs. Cable.

Posted by SavageDragon

I think this a fair assessment, and I like the aspect of different people weighing in on the result page. I think its a stalemate personally, Great article. I have a felling its Cap and Slade next time.

Posted by k4tzm4n
Posted by Samuel_Simmons

DD

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Posted by DJ1107

Captain America all the way.

Edited by mtrakos

nightwing would stomp DD

Posted by blackcobalt

Deathstroke vs Cap next? It's gotta be 'Stroke by a mile. Superhuman vs peak human is pretty obvious.

Posted by DJ1107

@blackcobalt: I thought these battles were about which were the best written series? Because if that the case Cap wins.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@dj1107 said:

@blackcobalt: I thought these battles were about which were the best written series? Because if that the case Cap wins.

No, sir.

Per the first article:

Welcome to the first Comic Vine Battle of the Week! Every Monday I'll create a battle and you'll have until Friday morning to debate who will win and cast your vote! Please try your best to avoid making this a popularity contest. Leave bias at the door and cast your vote with an open and informed mind. Who you like more is totally irrelevant. This is all about who you think would legitimately win in a fight based on the following rules. First up, we have a battle between two extremely agile heroes: Daredevil and Nightwing!

Edited by DJ1107

@k4tzm4n: ah. I still think Cap'll win. Mostly because ever since Brad Meltzer Deathstroke has been an overrated fighter & his character has just been all over the place.

Posted by Pokergeist

My best guess is Ultimate Captain America vs Deathstroke.

God I hope so. Ultimate Captain America with Weapons vs Deathstroke with Weapons is always a great battle.

Posted by manwithoutshame

How is Daredevil being middle-aged going to be an advantage against someone like Nightwing?

Posted by Alak

While I did argue my heart out for Nightwing, I'm not upset that Daredevil won. He's an elite combatant who has taken on opponents generally thought to be out of his league. As for next week's match-up, I'm going to have to do a lot of re-reading.

Posted by saiyan_earthling

Daredevil wins this.

Edited by LordRequiem

This is going to be a really cool series if it continues in this format. Extremely fair analyses all round. I voted Daredevil but I was close to thinking Nightwing. I don't think it's fair that Nightwing hasn't been able to touch Batman, that makes him seem a much lower level combatant than I thought him to be.

Edited by Arkhamc1tizen

daredevil

Edited by SpidermanWins

*cough* "sonics!" *cough cough*

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