Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Aquaman vs. Thing

I gave you valuable points about how they would stomp him.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: i gave you valuable points about why aquaman would kill thing, all he rely has to do is gouge his eyes out and smash his head.i made a thread for aquaman vs fantastic four check it out.

@patrat18: what Franklin would do all he can to save his PARENT'S not the guy who's trying to kill them. and I don't understand what you mean for that last bit about Aquaman vs Thing

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: franklin would turn against them,but aquaman vs thing thing goes down

Hah! Arthur ftw!

@patrat18: Yes I see you're point and even if he does and if they bring Franklin with them it's game over for Aquaman. andThor has killed Loki before.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: like i said if they cause a threat to his seven seas he will kill them,he is one of a few on the team that would do it.oceanmaster is his brother why would he not give his brother a chance,if thtats the case why dosen't thor kill loki?

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: On that I can agree.

@comicfan11: Exactly On Land even without prep they win and in water with prep they win. but in water without prep they lose unless they bring Franklin with them.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Good we agree.

The FF with prep take it. No doubt there.

Reed with prep can hurt Celestials and come up with plans to take down universal threats.

@hawkguy: But it's extremely one sided if you put it in the water with no prep. and adding Mera worsens it. on land the F4 beat Arthur and in water the F4 might be able to because of Sue don't underestimate Sue and don't make me bring in the Franklin Richards card.

@comicfan11:

a) if you count "Kirby Dots" as blood then Yes if not then No.

b) A big Hell No

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: All of this is assuming F4 has extreme prep. In a random encounter there would be NO way any of them would be prepared for Arthur. Even if it started in a city Aquaman could easily hop to a body of water. With prep... I don't think the F4 could handle Atlantis, or just Arthur and Mera alone

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642:

a) did the Trident make Darkseid bleed?

b) is the Thing more durable than Darkseid?

A simple yes or no will do.

@comicfan11: a) it doesn't seem to when right after he's mopping the floor with them. b) I still don't think just because he hit's thing with the trident he wins. underwater as I have stated aquaman would win udnerwater and would hitting him with the triden in water help him pull a victory most probably. but on land even with the trident I still think Thing can take him.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: For the last couple of pages you were arguing a) that the Trident didn't hurt Darkseid and b) that the Trident would not hurt the Thing enough.

@comicfan11: I did know about him killing Black Manta's men but these are heroes not hired Mercs. and if it was in the water he could call upon all of those creatures but on land he's screwed

Yes I DO. but I still think ON LAND Thing would win and IN WATER Aquaman would win what don't you and Patrat get about that.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: First of all in a forum battle everything goes. The goal for a character is to win using all his powers. In that case AQ will use everything he's got and tht includes his neverending army of nightmare creatures. Also AQ stone cold killed one of Manta's henchmen via Trident to the back, which you would know if you actually knew about Aquaman. In a forum battle he would have no hesitation.

Secondly.

Dude WHAT don't you get? It doesn't matter if AQ can beat Darkseid (AQ dies 11/10 in that case). THE POINT IS THE TRIDENT WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE AN EVIL GOD BLEED. IT WOULD DO MUCH WORSE TO THE THING. Can you understand that?

@patrat18: I don't think he'll kill some of the world's greatest heroes in cold blood he doesn't kill all his enemies did he kill Ocean Master the Justice League etc the Trench were cannibilastic monster's and a threat to us the F4 are a different story.

@comicfan11: Yes but against foes that are heroes in cold blood I don't think the Justice League would sit so well with that. and I thought the Kirby Dot's was just energy not blood my mistake. Darksied is more durable yes but i'm just saying he couldn't wound Darksied without help which is also clearly shown in the panel's.

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@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: NO HE DOSE KILL OF BAT.thats how i can tell you don't read his books his first encounter with the trench he killed many of them.his first encounter with darkseids minions he killed them. aquamans a killer point blank he has to do what he has to when protecting an entire kingdom/seven seas. aquaman punches that shield it will break,or just push it lower in the water till it shatters.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: In a battle he would whatever he had to win. Your argument has no logic whatsoever. The moment he perceives them as threats he can summon a literal army and enjoy the show.

Also you must have some problem with your eyes if you can't see what's happening in these scans. The "Kirby Dots" are Darkseid's blood. It's the same when they stab him in the eyes

Additionally the Thing is nowhere near as durable as Darkseid, so your opinion is invalid from the get go. Not to mention the feat was accepted in the official site winning argument, which further invalidates your opinion.

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@patrat18: Aquaman doesn't kill off the bat. that's like saying Superman would pitch every member of the Fantastic Four into the sun plus she could easily make a shield she isn't that dumb man.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: invincible not intangible aquaman would feel or see her in the water and kill her

@comicfan11: Don't you think he'd know that it's a bit of over kill and that he wouldn't need hundreds of Sea Creatures.

The only time he does pierce Darksied in JL is when he stabs his eye which he had help to do and Wonder Woman did it alone so I don't see the point of bringing that up and in DCU presents he does pierce the armour even though there are 3 other character's helping him fight Darksied but there is no blood so I don't see why people state that he drew blood from Darksied so I don't see where you guy's got that from. they are both feats but it is impressive but he still had help it was 5 people on Darksied and in reality Darksied should've mopped the floor with all of them which he was sort of doing.

ANYWAY'S as I have stated many times Aquaman beats Thing in water and Thing wins on land i'm done now.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Why wouldn't he if he needed? What kind of logic is this?

And just stop with the Darkseid scan. What "seems" to you doesn't matter since the artwork is pretty clear. It's accepted by everyone including the site's mods. Your lowballing borders on ridiculous. The wound from the trident is evident in 2 different books (JL and DCU Presents).

@comicfan11: I know all of this and I don't think Aquaman would summon hundreds of sea creature's to defeat 4 people that aren't even near godlike level.

Thor of course would annhililate Thing but I was merely stating that Thing has taken blows from mjolnir.

It doesn't even seem to be that Aquaman drew blood from Darksied. Superman did use a sneak attack but he actually hurt Darksied but Darksied quickly regained his senses and ovepower's Superman

i disagree with this battle. Thing has gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk. the Hulk would tar Aquaman apart at the seems. shouldnt thing therefore be able to take the fish man?

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642:

Sue is the only FF that has a chance of doing something. That being said...

Why on earth wouldn't he notice her?

She might turn invisible but AQ has sonar and super human hearing. He was able to avoid projectiles WHILE BLIND underwater thx to his senses. And for Sue to do anything she has to be able to target Aquaman which with his speed is very difficult. Not to mention that when the Torch goes down they will literally be blind due to the darkness.

Now all of this and we didn't even mention that AQ can literally summon thousands of huge predators or even Krakens (they exist in main DC continuity), the new colossal Topo or any other of huge mythical creature that has made an appearance in the DCU (like some huge water dragons etc). Unlike Namor he doesn't need extra equipment to do so. He can casually let them pick the FF apart while he watches and move in for the KO.

Again I'm not saying that Aquaman would certainly beat them, but he has what it takes to do it.

Unlike Namor when you fight Aquaman underwater you are always outnumbered.

The Trident does piercing damage. And in a recent story ark a mind controlled Thor broke Ben's hand. He completely tore it from Ben with a swing of Mjolnir. A serious Thor annihilates Thing. It's not even debatable.

Also you are clearly misinterpreting the scans since Superman only managed to push Darkseid back with a sneak attack and then was completely punked when Darkseid caught him. Aquaman stabbed him in the chest, made a wound and drew blood. You are the only poster who tries to lowball this feat EVEN AFTER IT WAS USED IN THE WINNING ARGUMENT.

If AQ stabs Thing in superspeed the Thing will get hurt. It's ridiculous to even debate that.

@comicfan11: Ben has taking hit's from Mjolnir okay I don't think a trident will affect him that bad plus Darksied was barely fazed by the attack Superman was the only one who actually hurt him.

@patrat18: comicfan11 even said that Sue was the only one he couldn't get under water she is extremely powerful. he won't notice her moving plus she could turn invisible and just caught off all the air he needs.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: you know sue will have to move in the water right,also he has sonar,you really are underestimating him, thus i will make a thread about it

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: OK I just wanted to make clear how fast AQ is underwater.

As for Darkseid the point is that the Trident drew blood from Darkseid. It's invulnerable (like Wolverine's claws) and a character with the strength and speed of Aquaman hitting Ben with it is more than enough to hurt him reaally bad. Superman, WW and Green Lantern were not able to draw blood from Darkseid (apart from WW when she stabbed him in the eye like AQ, but the eyes are way more vulnerable than the body).

Those are my 2 points.

@comicfan11: How am I lowballing you're even admitting that he can't beat them underwater and I have clearly stated that Aquaman beat's Thing underwater but on land he doesn't. Plus Aquaman barely even hurt Darksied so I don't get you're point plus 3 other huge powerhouses were attacking Darksied Flash Wonder Woman and Green Lantern because if it was 1 on 1 Aquaman wouldn't have been able to hit Darksied with the trident.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Thing most certainly is not being lowballed. If something Ben is being overhyped.

And saying that Aquaman, with the Trident underwater can't hurt the Thing is (again) ridiculous. He hurt Darkseid and in previous continuity Imperiex Probes. Unless you want to make a case that Ben is tougher than Uxas or the Probes, you have no point whatsoever.

As for Reed he can easily grab him and bfr him before he can even react.

Bottom line is AQ is more than fast enough to tag them all before they even know they've been hit.

like this (just replace the hook hand with the Trident)

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And again I don't say he will certainly defeat the FF underwater but stop lowballing Aquaman.

@patrat18: The FF doesn't go into the water without anything dude it's not prep time it's common sense. Aquaman can't hurt Reed and would just tussle with Ben not even able to KO him plus he wouldn't be able to find Sue. He's getting Johnny that's for sure though.

@comicfan11: I understand but Aquaman can't hurt Thing and Mr Fantastic they will tag him because Sue won't just stand there and let them get pummelled.

Thing has dealt with stronger character's and it was once again PatRat who started comparing strength level's

Thing is getting Lowballed so I don't see you're point.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: all of what you said is prep time and all false, aquaman is fast underwater fast enough to put out johnny, reed and sue at the same time and stomping ben

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Aquaman can blitz the FF underwater and he moves faster than any of them by a ridiculous amount.

I'm not sure any of them can even tag him underwater. They have normal human reflexes.

Apart from that Sue might be able to win it, but as I told you before I don't care about that.

But you are majorly lownballing Aquaman's speed, where feats prove he can tag them all before they even know what hit them.

Also the Thing might be a 100 tonner but AQ is too, so I don't get the strength comparisons.

@comicfan11: He can't KO them that fast underwater Sue is already invisible so might not be able to find her but he does have that sonar hearing but Ben could take his hits and he wouldn't be able to hurt reed the only one he could KO is Johnny.

Thing is a 100+ tonner what's you're point even his feats prove it.

I know and I merely stated my disagreement with it and then Patrat decided to jump in.

haha of course aquamanbeat THing,
if pokemon ever taught us anything it's that
Water beats Rock types.

The DC vs Marvel crossover is not canon.

Aquaman vs Namor is not canon.

@patrat18: Stop restricting the fight's to underwater. Johnny has been able to go underwater due to reed giving him something plus Johnny could just boil the water. the F4 are not stupid they won't just follow him into the water. they will still probably be able to beat Aquaman underwater underwater. the Scenario goes the F4 have oxygen tanks for those who need it except Ben and Reed gives Johnny something so his power's could work underwater Aquaman takes on Thing straight away and Johnny tries to help Ben while Reed and Sue figure out a plan to take him out. Aquaman. Is slowly getting the upperhand because they are underwater he KO's Johnny and then proceeds to pummel Ben when Sue steps in and Slams into him an invisible wall and creates a bubble on his head cutting him off from the oxygen and water. Reed tells Johnny to burn the Water/Air around Aquman before Sue get's knocked unconscious so he does and then Reed Holds Aquaman down leaving Thing to give the KO blow. but this is just a 5/10 chance in water.On Land the F4 stomp Aquaman 10/10. but back to Thing vs Aquaman I give it 5/10 to Aquaman and 5/10 to Thing. because if it stays on Land Thing will eventually get the upperhand and win but if the fight is in water Aquaman will eventually get the upper hand and win.

@darknightspideyfanboy: You do realize that Aquaman was losing the fight until he called on a killer whale while Thing has been able to subdue and even KO Namor physically

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Aquaman underwater CAN and HAS speedblitzed in the past. Stop lowballing.

I don't know if he can beat the entire FF underwater and I don't care.

But saying he can't speedblitz 4 people with normal human reflexes (no member of the FF is faster reflex wise than a normal human) underwater is just ridiculous.

And also Aquaman (especially nu AQ) is most certainly class 100. Much more than the Thing ever was, going by feats.

Finally the Thing lost by a LANDSLIDE. Get over it.

this is under water aquaman can hold his breath for very long periods of time. johnny is useless underwater,reed would do what exactly at an enemy who can summon giant whales and owns the water and thing looses mainly because underwater aquaman is a 1000+ toner and way faster than him.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: aqua-man is a different beast compare to namor

@patrat18: Aquaman can't speed blit'z are you stupid he isn't the Flash. Johnny would already be up in the air Reed would have already figured out over 1000 ways on how to take down Aquaman and Sue would be blocking off his oxygen while Johnny burns the air around Aquaman and then Thing KO's him. I don't underestimate him he's one of my favourite character's but you're overestimating him the F4 have all easily beaten Namor and Hulk all together before so they could definitely take out Aquaman.

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642:

no prep for reed aqauaman would speed blitz everyone and drag them to the bottom of the ocean before johnny gets a chance to go nova, reed thinks up and idea, and sue to use her powers, you rely underestimate the king of the seven seas.