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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Aquaman vs. Thing

Who gets clobbered? Come find out which character won more votes and what the CV staff thinks of this fight!

It's the king of the seven seas against the heavy hitter from Marvel's first family! I really wanted to use Aquaman in this segment (because he more than deserves attention), but finding a proper character to give him a good fight was proving difficult. I considered Red Hulk, but honestly, I thought that may make the match a bit too one-sided since his initial run gave him a plethora of high-end feats. So, I opted for a step below Rulk's rank: Thing. He's never had what it takes to earn a majority over the true powerhouses in his universe, but he has the drive, physicals and talent to give them at least a few clean hits before going down. The same could be said for New 52 Aquaman, so I figured at the very least, this battle could be entertaining to think about.

While one character took a massive lead, I was happy to see many thought it was still a good fight and, at the end of the day, that's really what this segment is all about. Even if the winner is obvious in your eyes, my goal is just to provide you with a brawl that's fun to think about and hopefully you'll also learn more about the characters involved (or have the opportunity to share knowledge). After leaving the poll open for five days, a whopping 70% thought Arthur Curry would eventually defeat Ben Grimm.

IT'S "BOW DOWN BEFORE THE KING OF ATLANTIS, SURFACE DWELLER" TIME!

Ben earned 27% of the votes and 4% thought it was too close to call. I find myself with the majority this time around. While Aquaman is disputably stronger and faster (he lifted a cruise ship, tossed a submarine, sent Superman flying with a strike), Thing is one tough dude and keeping him down won't be easy thanks to his high durability to blunt force trauma. I think if they decide to duke it out, this could be a fight that would do loads of damage to the surrounding area (fret not, it's unpopulated). But ultimately, I see no reason to believe why the member of the Fantastic Four would be safe from Arthur's trident (breached Darkseid's armor, after all) and that could be a massive factor. After thinking it over all week, I imagine Arthur is left battered and bruised, but ultimately he's the one left standing and clearly most of you think so as well.

Viner Argument of the Week for Aquaman is by Lvenger

"After much deliberation, I think this is going to be quite the battle. Definitely the closest fight of this feature yet even if the votes don't show that. However, I feel that the most likely character to win this fight would be Aquaman. In the New 52, we've seen Arthur lift cruise ships, tug boats and toss 100+ton submarines through the air. If cruise ships really do weigh in the average of the mid 100,000 tonnes, then this beats the Thing's 30,000 weight lifting feat. Of course, it's not about physical strength but striking power in a fight. Aquaman has shown to be able to sucker punch Superman quite a way although this hardly counts as a viable win or KO of Superman. Also he's carved massive holes in mountains and torn open submarines quite handily. To be honest, not many noteworthy Thing striking feats spring to mind after my research, not even his Sunday punch lol. Although Arthur's armour can be easily destroyed and his forehead chipped by a bullet, he did endure Wonder Woman's blow with a bloody lip. And his bullrush of Wonder Woman may come in handy against the Thing but Aquaman hasn't displayed any combat or reaction feats that show he can dance around the Thing. Thus it'll be a long slog between the two fighters.

Finally, Aquaman has one advantage over the Thing that the Thing cannot claim to also have. If Aquaman can get move the battle to the Hudson River, it's game over. Aquaman can outmaneuver the Thing in water as well as being the more experienced combatant underwater. The Thing's fight with Namor in AvX was poorly written IMO. Ben should not have been able to get the better of Namor on his home turf. Without story constraints in this fight, Aquaman should take the edge if the battle is moved near water. And the trident gives Aquaman another avenue of hurting the Thing. It's extremely durable and has pierced many foes in fights so far. This fight would be close and the Thing does have a chance of winning. But as much as I love Ben Grimm, I have to give the edge to Aquaman in this fight."

Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring, Comic Vine staff writer

"What are you doing to me, Gregg? My favorite super-hero, of all time, vs a man made of orange rock? I'm not breaking out of fanboy mode for this one. Aquaman is stronger, without a doubt. However, the Thing may be a bit more invulnerable. Aquaman doesn't need to be sitting in the ocean to be a formidable opponent. He's super-strong and can take the punches and sharp rocky edges from the Thing. Worse comes to worse, Aquaman can call upon some flying killer whales to eat Thing. Better yet, he calls upon Topo, his Krakken-esque friend to strangle Thing. That's right, Aquaman delegates to beat Thing because this fight is a waste of his time!"

Last but definitely not least, here's a tease for next week's fight. Be sure to check the homepage on Monday to see who the combatants are.

(Bane voice) LET THE GUESSING GAMES BEGIN!

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Want to suggest a battle? Feel free to comment below or send it to Gregg via Twitter.

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Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642:

Sue is the only FF that has a chance of doing something. That being said...

Why on earth wouldn't he notice her?

She might turn invisible but AQ has sonar and super human hearing. He was able to avoid projectiles WHILE BLIND underwater thx to his senses. And for Sue to do anything she has to be able to target Aquaman which with his speed is very difficult. Not to mention that when the Torch goes down they will literally be blind due to the darkness.

Now all of this and we didn't even mention that AQ can literally summon thousands of huge predators or even Krakens (they exist in main DC continuity), the new colossal Topo or any other of huge mythical creature that has made an appearance in the DCU (like some huge water dragons etc). Unlike Namor he doesn't need extra equipment to do so. He can casually let them pick the FF apart while he watches and move in for the KO.

Again I'm not saying that Aquaman would certainly beat them, but he has what it takes to do it.

Unlike Namor when you fight Aquaman underwater you are always outnumbered.

The Trident does piercing damage. And in a recent story ark a mind controlled Thor broke Ben's hand. He completely tore it from Ben with a swing of Mjolnir. A serious Thor annihilates Thing. It's not even debatable.

Also you are clearly misinterpreting the scans since Superman only managed to push Darkseid back with a sneak attack and then was completely punked when Darkseid caught him. Aquaman stabbed him in the chest, made a wound and drew blood. You are the only poster who tries to lowball this feat EVEN AFTER IT WAS USED IN THE WINNING ARGUMENT.

If AQ stabs Thing in superspeed the Thing will get hurt. It's ridiculous to even debate that.

Posted by kid Apollo

i disagree with this battle. Thing has gone toe-to-toe with the Hulk. the Hulk would tar Aquaman apart at the seems. shouldnt thing therefore be able to take the fish man?

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: I know all of this and I don't think Aquaman would summon hundreds of sea creature's to defeat 4 people that aren't even near godlike level.

Thor of course would annhililate Thing but I was merely stating that Thing has taken blows from mjolnir.

It doesn't even seem to be that Aquaman drew blood from Darksied. Superman did use a sneak attack but he actually hurt Darksied but Darksied quickly regained his senses and ovepower's Superman

Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Why wouldn't he if he needed? What kind of logic is this?

And just stop with the Darkseid scan. What "seems" to you doesn't matter since the artwork is pretty clear. It's accepted by everyone including the site's mods. Your lowballing borders on ridiculous. The wound from the trident is evident in 2 different books (JL and DCU Presents).

Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: Don't you think he'd know that it's a bit of over kill and that he wouldn't need hundreds of Sea Creatures.

The only time he does pierce Darksied in JL is when he stabs his eye which he had help to do and Wonder Woman did it alone so I don't see the point of bringing that up and in DCU presents he does pierce the armour even though there are 3 other character's helping him fight Darksied but there is no blood so I don't see why people state that he drew blood from Darksied so I don't see where you guy's got that from. they are both feats but it is impressive but he still had help it was 5 people on Darksied and in reality Darksied should've mopped the floor with all of them which he was sort of doing.

ANYWAY'S as I have stated many times Aquaman beats Thing in water and Thing wins on land i'm done now.

Posted by patrat18
Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: Aquaman doesn't kill off the bat. that's like saying Superman would pitch every member of the Fantastic Four into the sun plus she could easily make a shield she isn't that dumb man.

Edited by Ammara420

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Edited by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: In a battle he would whatever he had to win. Your argument has no logic whatsoever. The moment he perceives them as threats he can summon a literal army and enjoy the show.

Also you must have some problem with your eyes if you can't see what's happening in these scans. The "Kirby Dots" are Darkseid's blood. It's the same when they stab him in the eyes

Additionally the Thing is nowhere near as durable as Darkseid, so your opinion is invalid from the get go. Not to mention the feat was accepted in the official site winning argument, which further invalidates your opinion.

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: NO HE DOSE KILL OF BAT.thats how i can tell you don't read his books his first encounter with the trench he killed many of them.his first encounter with darkseids minions he killed them. aquamans a killer point blank he has to do what he has to when protecting an entire kingdom/seven seas. aquaman punches that shield it will break,or just push it lower in the water till it shatters.

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Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: I don't think he'll kill some of the world's greatest heroes in cold blood he doesn't kill all his enemies did he kill Ocean Master the Justice League etc the Trench were cannibilastic monster's and a threat to us the F4 are a different story.

@comicfan11: Yes but against foes that are heroes in cold blood I don't think the Justice League would sit so well with that. and I thought the Kirby Dot's was just energy not blood my mistake. Darksied is more durable yes but i'm just saying he couldn't wound Darksied without help which is also clearly shown in the panel's.

Edited by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: First of all in a forum battle everything goes. The goal for a character is to win using all his powers. In that case AQ will use everything he's got and tht includes his neverending army of nightmare creatures. Also AQ stone cold killed one of Manta's henchmen via Trident to the back, which you would know if you actually knew about Aquaman. In a forum battle he would have no hesitation.

Secondly.

Dude WHAT don't you get? It doesn't matter if AQ can beat Darkseid (AQ dies 11/10 in that case). THE POINT IS THE TRIDENT WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE AN EVIL GOD BLEED. IT WOULD DO MUCH WORSE TO THE THING. Can you understand that?

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: I did know about him killing Black Manta's men but these are heroes not hired Mercs. and if it was in the water he could call upon all of those creatures but on land he's screwed

Yes I DO. but I still think ON LAND Thing would win and IN WATER Aquaman would win what don't you and Patrat get about that.

Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: For the last couple of pages you were arguing a) that the Trident didn't hurt Darkseid and b) that the Trident would not hurt the Thing enough.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: a) it doesn't seem to when right after he's mopping the floor with them. b) I still don't think just because he hit's thing with the trident he wins. underwater as I have stated aquaman would win udnerwater and would hitting him with the triden in water help him pull a victory most probably. but on land even with the trident I still think Thing can take him.

Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642:

a) did the Trident make Darkseid bleed?

b) is the Thing more durable than Darkseid?

A simple yes or no will do.

Posted by Hawkguy

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: All of this is assuming F4 has extreme prep. In a random encounter there would be NO way any of them would be prepared for Arthur. Even if it started in a city Aquaman could easily hop to a body of water. With prep... I don't think the F4 could handle Atlantis, or just Arthur and Mera alone

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11:

a) if you count "Kirby Dots" as blood then Yes if not then No.

b) A big Hell No

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@hawkguy: But it's extremely one sided if you put it in the water with no prep. and adding Mera worsens it. on land the F4 beat Arthur and in water the F4 might be able to because of Sue don't underestimate Sue and don't make me bring in the Franklin Richards card.

Edited by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Good we agree.

The FF with prep take it. No doubt there.

Reed with prep can hurt Celestials and come up with plans to take down universal threats.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: Exactly On Land even without prep they win and in water with prep they win. but in water without prep they lose unless they bring Franklin with them.

Posted by comicfan11
Edited by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: like i said if they cause a threat to his seven seas he will kill them,he is one of a few on the team that would do it.oceanmaster is his brother why would he not give his brother a chance,if thtats the case why dosen't thor kill loki?

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: Yes I see you're point and even if he does and if they bring Franklin with them it's game over for Aquaman. andThor has killed Loki before.

Edited by Veshark

Hah! Arthur ftw!

Posted by patrat18
Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: what Franklin would do all he can to save his PARENT'S not the guy who's trying to kill them. and I don't understand what you mean for that last bit about Aquaman vs Thing

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: i gave you valuable points about why aquaman would kill thing, all he rely has to do is gouge his eyes out and smash his head.i made a thread for aquaman vs fantastic four check it out.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

I gave you valuable points about how they would stomp him.