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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: Aquaman vs. Thing

Who gets clobbered? Come find out which character won more votes and what the CV staff thinks of this fight!

It's the king of the seven seas against the heavy hitter from Marvel's first family! I really wanted to use Aquaman in this segment (because he more than deserves attention), but finding a proper character to give him a good fight was proving difficult. I considered Red Hulk, but honestly, I thought that may make the match a bit too one-sided since his initial run gave him a plethora of high-end feats. So, I opted for a step below Rulk's rank: Thing. He's never had what it takes to earn a majority over the true powerhouses in his universe, but he has the drive, physicals and talent to give them at least a few clean hits before going down. The same could be said for New 52 Aquaman, so I figured at the very least, this battle could be entertaining to think about.

While one character took a massive lead, I was happy to see many thought it was still a good fight and, at the end of the day, that's really what this segment is all about. Even if the winner is obvious in your eyes, my goal is just to provide you with a brawl that's fun to think about and hopefully you'll also learn more about the characters involved (or have the opportunity to share knowledge). After leaving the poll open for five days, a whopping 70% thought Arthur Curry would eventually defeat Ben Grimm.


Ben earned 27% of the votes and 4% thought it was too close to call. I find myself with the majority this time around. While Aquaman is disputably stronger and faster (he lifted a cruise ship, tossed a submarine, sent Superman flying with a strike), Thing is one tough dude and keeping him down won't be easy thanks to his high durability to blunt force trauma. I think if they decide to duke it out, this could be a fight that would do loads of damage to the surrounding area (fret not, it's unpopulated). But ultimately, I see no reason to believe why the member of the Fantastic Four would be safe from Arthur's trident (breached Darkseid's armor, after all) and that could be a massive factor. After thinking it over all week, I imagine Arthur is left battered and bruised, but ultimately he's the one left standing and clearly most of you think so as well.

Viner Argument of the Week for Aquaman is by Lvenger

"After much deliberation, I think this is going to be quite the battle. Definitely the closest fight of this feature yet even if the votes don't show that. However, I feel that the most likely character to win this fight would be Aquaman. In the New 52, we've seen Arthur lift cruise ships, tug boats and toss 100+ton submarines through the air. If cruise ships really do weigh in the average of the mid 100,000 tonnes, then this beats the Thing's 30,000 weight lifting feat. Of course, it's not about physical strength but striking power in a fight. Aquaman has shown to be able to sucker punch Superman quite a way although this hardly counts as a viable win or KO of Superman. Also he's carved massive holes in mountains and torn open submarines quite handily. To be honest, not many noteworthy Thing striking feats spring to mind after my research, not even his Sunday punch lol. Although Arthur's armour can be easily destroyed and his forehead chipped by a bullet, he did endure Wonder Woman's blow with a bloody lip. And his bullrush of Wonder Woman may come in handy against the Thing but Aquaman hasn't displayed any combat or reaction feats that show he can dance around the Thing. Thus it'll be a long slog between the two fighters.

Finally, Aquaman has one advantage over the Thing that the Thing cannot claim to also have. If Aquaman can get move the battle to the Hudson River, it's game over. Aquaman can outmaneuver the Thing in water as well as being the more experienced combatant underwater. The Thing's fight with Namor in AvX was poorly written IMO. Ben should not have been able to get the better of Namor on his home turf. Without story constraints in this fight, Aquaman should take the edge if the battle is moved near water. And the trident gives Aquaman another avenue of hurting the Thing. It's extremely durable and has pierced many foes in fights so far. This fight would be close and the Thing does have a chance of winning. But as much as I love Ben Grimm, I have to give the edge to Aquaman in this fight."

Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring, Comic Vine staff writer

"What are you doing to me, Gregg? My favorite super-hero, of all time, vs a man made of orange rock? I'm not breaking out of fanboy mode for this one. Aquaman is stronger, without a doubt. However, the Thing may be a bit more invulnerable. Aquaman doesn't need to be sitting in the ocean to be a formidable opponent. He's super-strong and can take the punches and sharp rocky edges from the Thing. Worse comes to worse, Aquaman can call upon some flying killer whales to eat Thing. Better yet, he calls upon Topo, his Krakken-esque friend to strangle Thing. That's right, Aquaman delegates to beat Thing because this fight is a waste of his time!"

Last but definitely not least, here's a tease for next week's fight. Be sure to check the homepage on Monday to see who the combatants are.


Previous 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' results

Want to suggest a battle? Feel free to comment below or send it to Gregg via Twitter.

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: but thing in good writing would never beat them, he would never beat hulk, never beat thor, and definitely never beat namor, in water thats insaine. aquaman on the other hand has beaten superman. the thing can't even beat superboy which aquaman has done

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: AQUAMAN NEVER BEAT SUPERMAN are you on crack. and Thing has beaten Namor ON LAND in water never what don't you get about me saying that ON LAND Thing wins but if it goes into the water Aquaman wins just like how it goes when Thing beats Namor and when Namor beats Thing.

Edited by Batmanikk

Obviously TMNT not sure who the left one is ...

Edited by Lvenger
Posted by MuyJingo

Aquaman taking a 70% lead? Who would have thunk :|

Deadpool vs the TMNT might be interesting, but I think the turtles are outclassed again..

Posted by butters911

Oh man, Tobias as the Thing is hilarious

Edited by k4tzm4n

@godtriggerhulk said:

Right silhouette looks like it has a gun, they shoot the TMNT

Having a projectile doesn't immediately mean victory against them.

Edited by redo7

either Deathstroke/Deadpool vs TMNT

Posted by djrobe

Thing wins!

Edited by HushoftheWind

i just notice this is DC's first victory over Marvel and it took the King of Atlantis to do it. Way to go Arthur.

Posted by Cezar_TheScribe

Aquaman has gone toe-to-toe with Superman.

Edited by 80sGangInfestedArcades

Hell yeah! it's the ultra violent Tmnt from the 1980s comic's this is gonna be a great battle! and Deathstroke & Deadpool are excellent fighter's but neither one of them could take on all four turtle's at the same time that's what their trained for shredder's countless ninja's/assassin's/mutant's also gangs/mobs all the way to krangs cyborg style ninjas/mutant's/killer robots etc deathstroke would be eventually overpowered they would find his weakness same as deadpool even with his healing ability he might be able to handle one or two turtles maybe but all of them would hack him into peice's were he'll have to reginerate again but he wouldn't be able to handle all of them wolverine hacked up deadpools arms in a couple of seconds alone no problem and deadpool couldn't even keep fightin he was in pain lookin for his arm turtles would continue to cut him to pieces i don't know who could take all four of them without crazy powers.

Posted by dominicfortune

What a revolting development, the Thing was robbed by a bunch of wet behind the ears Yancey streeters !

Posted by k4tzm4n

the thing with that shadow image lookes bulkeir

Well, I'm blacking out / whiting out these images via MS Paint so odds are the outlines may be a bit off...

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: please show me a recent scan of thing beating hulk, not some old pic a recent scan of thing beating namor under water.face it it was bad writing thing cannot beat him plus the trident,and aquamans fighting skills are better than thing.the trident was abel to penetrate darkseid, who is 1000 times more durable than thing.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: LMFAO none of those scans prove Aquaman beat Superman or even went toe to toe with him it was Martian Manhunter who disguised himself as Superman and didn't even fight back XD. and Superboy who cares he isn't even that powerful or strong at the time Aquaman beat him.

I shall point you too AvX versus issue 1 Thing vs Namor although Thing doesn't K.O. Namor he subdues him underwater which is bad writing I don't get what you don't understand when I say that Aquaman would beat Thing underwater but on land I think Thing takes it.

and that scan with Darksied is laughable because their are 3 other powerhouses helping Aquaman out and Darksied doesn't even seem to feel pain at all.

Posted by Hawkguy

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Yeah those would be sweet too. I just think anyone vs Superman is unfair, he's had too many godly feats. If he did lose in one of these it would be because people would vote for the other guy, thinking they're sending a "message" or "fighting the power", some stupid shit like that

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@hawkguy: Agreed but the current Hyperion is no pushover he survived the destruction of 2 universes and was able to hold apart 2 planets was able to physically match Hulk completely destroy the High Evolutionary and Help Thor take out Terminus by taking out Terminus`s brain. I still think Superman would win but Hyperion would be one tough nut to crack. I find that against certain character`s Superman is underrated mainly magic related character`s which is stupid.

Posted by G_Money_Christmas

I think it's Cyborg vs. TMNT. I could be wrong, though.

Posted by AWeekInGeekdom

Suggestion: Next matchup I'd love to see Terminator vs Robocop. Make it happen :P !!

Edited by Yung ANcient One

How am I suppose to vote on the next battle? Deadpool Vs TMNT



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Posted by SuperJedi17

Deathstroke VS TMNT. Should be good.

Posted by TimeLordScience

@citizenbane said:

Oi, K4tz.......the image title is "dptmnt.jpg". So.....Deadpool vs TMNT? Unless the DP is intended to be misleading.

you're quite clever, I think you've probably got him dead to rights with that

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: the point of the darkseid scan is to show you that the trident would cut thing and kill me a recent scan cause im still not seeing it.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: A recent scan of Thing vs Namor in the water with Thing winning

It's clearly bad writing and Thing doesn't incapacitate him but he still wins.

Edited by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: but you agree it's terrible writing aquaman would stomp the fantastic four with no effort underwater. not only is aquaman fresh out the water can lift 60+ tons he also has his trident thing looses.

Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: It is terrible writing and now way would Aquaman stomp the F4 underwater I'm sorry but what's stopping johnny from going Nova or Reed figuring out a way to beat Aquaman or Sue to block off all the oxygen he needs and blocking him from getting to water. Underwater Aquaman beats Thing but on land Thing beats Aquaman simple logic. and the point about Aquaman being a 60+ tonner doesn't help because Thing is a 100+ tonner.

Edited by patrat18


no prep for reed aqauaman would speed blitz everyone and drag them to the bottom of the ocean before johnny gets a chance to go nova, reed thinks up and idea, and sue to use her powers, you rely underestimate the king of the seven seas.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: Aquaman can't speed blit'z are you stupid he isn't the Flash. Johnny would already be up in the air Reed would have already figured out over 1000 ways on how to take down Aquaman and Sue would be blocking off his oxygen while Johnny burns the air around Aquaman and then Thing KO's him. I don't underestimate him he's one of my favourite character's but you're overestimating him the F4 have all easily beaten Namor and Hulk all together before so they could definitely take out Aquaman.

Posted by darknightspideyfanboy
Posted by patrat18

this is under water aquaman can hold his breath for very long periods of time. johnny is useless underwater,reed would do what exactly at an enemy who can summon giant whales and owns the water and thing looses mainly because underwater aquaman is a 1000+ toner and way faster than him.

Edited by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Aquaman underwater CAN and HAS speedblitzed in the past. Stop lowballing.

I don't know if he can beat the entire FF underwater and I don't care.

But saying he can't speedblitz 4 people with normal human reflexes (no member of the FF is faster reflex wise than a normal human) underwater is just ridiculous.

And also Aquaman (especially nu AQ) is most certainly class 100. Much more than the Thing ever was, going by feats.

Finally the Thing lost by a LANDSLIDE. Get over it.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: Stop restricting the fight's to underwater. Johnny has been able to go underwater due to reed giving him something plus Johnny could just boil the water. the F4 are not stupid they won't just follow him into the water. they will still probably be able to beat Aquaman underwater underwater. the Scenario goes the F4 have oxygen tanks for those who need it except Ben and Reed gives Johnny something so his power's could work underwater Aquaman takes on Thing straight away and Johnny tries to help Ben while Reed and Sue figure out a plan to take him out. Aquaman. Is slowly getting the upperhand because they are underwater he KO's Johnny and then proceeds to pummel Ben when Sue steps in and Slams into him an invisible wall and creates a bubble on his head cutting him off from the oxygen and water. Reed tells Johnny to burn the Water/Air around Aquman before Sue get's knocked unconscious so he does and then Reed Holds Aquaman down leaving Thing to give the KO blow. but this is just a 5/10 chance in water.On Land the F4 stomp Aquaman 10/10. but back to Thing vs Aquaman I give it 5/10 to Aquaman and 5/10 to Thing. because if it stays on Land Thing will eventually get the upperhand and win but if the fight is in water Aquaman will eventually get the upper hand and win.

@darknightspideyfanboy: You do realize that Aquaman was losing the fight until he called on a killer whale while Thing has been able to subdue and even KO Namor physically

Edited by comicfan11

The DC vs Marvel crossover is not canon.

Aquaman vs Namor is not canon.

Posted by TheShutup

haha of course aquamanbeat THing,
if pokemon ever taught us anything it's that
Water beats Rock types.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: He can't KO them that fast underwater Sue is already invisible so might not be able to find her but he does have that sonar hearing but Ben could take his hits and he wouldn't be able to hurt reed the only one he could KO is Johnny.

Thing is a 100+ tonner what's you're point even his feats prove it.

I know and I merely stated my disagreement with it and then Patrat decided to jump in.

Edited by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Aquaman can blitz the FF underwater and he moves faster than any of them by a ridiculous amount.

I'm not sure any of them can even tag him underwater. They have normal human reflexes.

Apart from that Sue might be able to win it, but as I told you before I don't care about that.

But you are majorly lownballing Aquaman's speed, where feats prove he can tag them all before they even know what hit them.

Also the Thing might be a 100 tonner but AQ is too, so I don't get the strength comparisons.

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: all of what you said is prep time and all false, aquaman is fast underwater fast enough to put out johnny, reed and sue at the same time and stomping ben

Edited by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: I understand but Aquaman can't hurt Thing and Mr Fantastic they will tag him because Sue won't just stand there and let them get pummelled.

Thing has dealt with stronger character's and it was once again PatRat who started comparing strength level's

Thing is getting Lowballed so I don't see you're point.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: The FF doesn't go into the water without anything dude it's not prep time it's common sense. Aquaman can't hurt Reed and would just tussle with Ben not even able to KO him plus he wouldn't be able to find Sue. He's getting Johnny that's for sure though.

Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: Thing most certainly is not being lowballed. If something Ben is being overhyped.

And saying that Aquaman, with the Trident underwater can't hurt the Thing is (again) ridiculous. He hurt Darkseid and in previous continuity Imperiex Probes. Unless you want to make a case that Ben is tougher than Uxas or the Probes, you have no point whatsoever.

As for Reed he can easily grab him and bfr him before he can even react.

Bottom line is AQ is more than fast enough to tag them all before they even know they've been hit.

like this (just replace the hook hand with the Trident)

And again I don't say he will certainly defeat the FF underwater but stop lowballing Aquaman.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: How am I lowballing you're even admitting that he can't beat them underwater and I have clearly stated that Aquaman beat's Thing underwater but on land he doesn't. Plus Aquaman barely even hurt Darksied so I don't get you're point plus 3 other huge powerhouses were attacking Darksied Flash Wonder Woman and Green Lantern because if it was 1 on 1 Aquaman wouldn't have been able to hit Darksied with the trident.

Posted by comicfan11

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: OK I just wanted to make clear how fast AQ is underwater.

As for Darkseid the point is that the Trident drew blood from Darkseid. It's invulnerable (like Wolverine's claws) and a character with the strength and speed of Aquaman hitting Ben with it is more than enough to hurt him reaally bad. Superman, WW and Green Lantern were not able to draw blood from Darkseid (apart from WW when she stabbed him in the eye like AQ, but the eyes are way more vulnerable than the body).

Those are my 2 points.

Posted by patrat18

@theincrediblesuperhulk8642: you know sue will have to move in the water right,also he has sonar,you really are underestimating him, thus i will make a thread about it

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@patrat18: comicfan11 even said that Sue was the only one he couldn't get under water she is extremely powerful. he won't notice her moving plus she could turn invisible and just caught off all the air he needs.

Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642

@comicfan11: Ben has taking hit's from Mjolnir okay I don't think a trident will affect him that bad plus Darksied was barely fazed by the attack Superman was the only one who actually hurt him.