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Comic Vine Battle of the Week: Faora vs. Thor (Movie Versions)

What happens when these two formidable characters from the DC and Marvel cinematic universes go at it? Who's left standing? Well, that's up to YOU, so get in here and cast your vote!

Thor has a brand new movie out and Faora's heading to blu-ray this week, so having them engage in a brutal slugfest only seems natural. What would happen if these two powerful characters went head-to-head? Will the DC villain's speed and viciousness overwhelm Marvel's Avenger? Or, will Thor's durability and versatility eventually earn him the win against Superman's foe?

We understand not everyone will enter this one being knowledgeable on both characters, so please keep in mind you have all week to vote. Conduct your own research by checking out the movies or head to the poll thread (link provided below) and read the detailed arguments which will hopefully be made for both sides. Or, if you do know both characters well, go to the poll thread right now and let us know who you think will win and why. Impress us enough (post must be free of videos and scans) and you just may earn the Viner Argument of the Week. You can't put that on your resume, but it's still pretty darn satisfying award.

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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Rules

  • Combatants are in character.
  • Characters are standard versions and have standard gear (Faora is not adjusted to Earth's conditions).
  • Knockout, incapacitation or death all count as elimination.
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. They start roughly 25 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire city region is on limits. Seeing as this battle has the potential to go great distances, assume we're talking about a massive city.
  • It's not mandatory, but if you take time to vote, elaborating as well would be extra awesome. Keep things informative and your post could be the next Viner Argument of the Week!

Click the following to cast your vote. Again, it would be extra cool if you could get your elaboration on as well. If you vote for a character, be sure to tell us why!

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Viners, you have the week to research, debate and vote! This means there's no reason to vote right away if you don't have all of the info you need to make an educated decision. Check the homepage Friday for an updated article with the following:

  • My extended thoughts on the match.
  • A Viner Argument in favor of the poll's winner (can't include scans and must be in the poll thread).
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  • If we're lucky, blurbs from industry talent.

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@mr_athrilla: that fair reasoning, I haven't had the chance to watch it again. :\

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Why an A+++ lister vs a B villain? Wrong matchup

Sure, if you want to blatantly ignore all of the potential factors in this fight and only look at "who's more popular?" But that's completely missing the point of the segment, isn't it?

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Why an A+++ lister vs a B villain? Wrong matchup

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@asgardianxeno929:

the Spear would of killed movie Thor, because it was headed for his head.Comic Thor would of survived. Odin already established That they aren't Gods, and can in fact die. The reason you leave spears unmodified is because it's been well established that Thor is vulnerable to piercing attacks like knives and daggers. A spear to the head would of worked just fine I just re-watched that fight scene. nobody's weapons were glowing. Asguardians can die pretty easy. the steel trap in the SHIELD hele-carrier is proof enough.

That's the whole point of blocking, to pervert an a possibly fatal attack.and if were talking realism, people don't like getting punched in the face because it can absolutely can, and easily kill you. Not because it's an inconvenience. Look at Mohammad Ali, a lifetime of taking padded punches has left if with Parkinsons.

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You guys know there's only one answer to this.

They fight to a draw because: Thor's power > Faora's power.

Faora's fighting skill and speed > Thor's skill and speed.

Then they end up banging each other. amirite?

I dunno if that's a good idea. Faora comes off as a... black widow type of woman, if you get my meaning.

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Everyone keeps talking about Faora's speed. Granted, she runs very fast. She could easily close the distance to get in close to Thor, provided he just stays on the ground. But then people talk about her combat speed and completely ignore the fact that she gets tagged repeatedly in combat by humans. They get hits in when she closes the distance, especially when she's facing multiple opponents. They get hits in, they just accomplish nothing with them. She also takes hits from ranged attackers, especially when they have numbers. But they're also using conventional Earth weaponry. Thor is not.

Could she dodge those hits? Maybe. But we can only go with what's demonstrated. And what's demonstrated is that she doesn't. So any attempt to say that she would/could is pure speculation. She doesn't.

Thor manages to hit multiple enemies, which are flying and attempting to actively avoid his attack, when he's trying to bottleneck the invasion in NYC. Most of them get destroyed. The large worm thing takes serious damage. We don't know if it was destroyed, because we don't see it after it reenters the portal. But it still took some serious damage, regardless. And it wasn't even a concentrated blast. He was taking out multiple other enemies with the same attack. It's plausible that a concentrated attack would have obliterated it completely. Yes, that last sentence was speculative.

So it seems that not only can his ranged attack put out some serious damage, but Faora would at least have great difficulty or perhaps simply an inability to dodge it. Faora, however, has nothing remotely comparable to his lightning attack.

Thor can also manage his tornado attack that he used against The Destroyer.

Thor can fly.

Also: Faora can't fly.

Ranged Advantage: Thor.

Having seen Thor 1, 2 and Avengers, it seems obvious that Thor can take some serious beatings. Other than when facing Clark, Faora only faces conventional Earth weaponry, which has not been demonstrated to be a problem for Thor.

Thor managed to crush the arm of Tony's armor with one hand, simply by squeezing hard. Tony's suit is certainly not conventional weaponry, and the Kryptonian's face nothing like it. So it's difficult to use as a comparison. Still, the blasts from Tony and the blasts from The Destroyer are of little concern to Thor. He also takes a serious assault from Malekith and continues, largely undaunted. He takes a beating from Kurse and continues on. You see the trend.

Faora doesn't take nearly the super powered pummeling that Thor has demonstrated he can take.

Toughness/Resilience Advantage: Thor.

Sheer running speed? Faora clearly demonstrates that. Of course, simply running fast is of limited help in a fight.
Foot Speed Advantage: Faora.

I'm not seeing the argument about smashing dirt. Do you have any idea the output of a nuclear weapon? And they barely make much a crater. Besides, Thor was using an AOE attack, releasing his lightning. It's not obvious that he was simply trying to damage the ground, and it would be pointless anyway. That argument doesn't hold water. He does manage to smash ice sheets. Cars and planes are collateral damage in his fights, as are hillsides. Farora's own strength feats are in close proximity to Thor's. But when you take his lightning attacks into account, she only has a fraction of his damage output. And he has demonstrated that he can channel it directly through his hammer. So he can use it in close range or at a distance.

Tony's armor specifically absorbs much of the lightning attack, and it still takes damage from the remainder. The Kryptonian armor was never shown to have that capability. So we can't assume that it does. The reasonable assumption is that it will be damaged. And his lightning hits large areas and/or multiple targets. Even if he hits her in the chest, her helmet would likely still suffer damage from the blast. And the helmet was shown to not be nearly as resilient as the rest of the armor.

Discussing Faora's knife is pointless. Loki's weapon is Asgardian. Faora's weapon is Kryptonian. Faora's knife may be no more effective than my knife would be, or it might be just as effective as Loki's. We don't know. Also, Faora was prone to simply punching and kicking more than actually using her blade. So the fight may be over before it even becomes an issue. Any comment about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of her knife is simply speculation. We don't know.

Final breakdown:


Toughness/Resilience: Thor.
Combat Skill: Thor has the experience and Faora has the training. We can call this a tie.
Running Speed: Faora.
Combat Speed/Reflexes: Both are able to avoid attacks, handle multiple attackers easily and parry assaults. We can can call this a tie.

Raw Strength: More or less equal. We can call this a tie.

Damage Output: Thor takes this one.

Flight: Thor.

Ranged Attack: Thor.

Area Attack: Thor.

Tornado Attack: Thor.

All Thor has to manage is 2-3 hits at most, so that her armor is compromised, if she hasn't already been ko'ed. Once the armor is compromised, the fight is over.

Faora took close combat hits from humans. She also took multiple ranged hits from humans. Thor can hit multiple moving, actively dodging targets at range. He can also fly. He clearly has the ranged advantage. There's no reason to believe Faora would be capable of avoiding that assault and certainly not completely. Thor's charged attacks can hit the area, not just one point of impact. So he can manage that even in close combat. He can easily get a few hits in. That's not even a question. Faora has not been shown to have the decisive damage output. Thor can take hits and keep on going.

Even if you want to push and say that Faora has a speed advantage when it comes to reflexes, it's a marginal advantage. Even if she were able to get two hits in for every one of Thor's, it won't matter. She'll keep pummeling, while he tears apart her armor. Then the fight is over.

Thor.

I'm not saying he'll walk away completely unscathed. But he will be the one who walks away.

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You guys know there's only one answer to this.

They fight to a draw because: Thor's power > Faora's power.

Faora's fighting skill and speed > Thor's skill and speed.

Then they end up banging each other. amirite?

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Faora without question. Stomp.

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@sebast_allen: Yeah, showing me a picture of a random rock on Earth =/= a random rock on alien planet of unknown material

Not. Comparable. At. All.

Well that was a copout and a half...... Your right about it, but at the same time, don't you think any comments would be made about it if it was a different material

If you can't see the difference, I'm not even going to bother responding to your other statements.

Lol, that is another copout, c'mon, prove them wrong

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@sebast_allen: Yeah, showing me a picture of a random rock on Earth =/= a random rock on alien planet of unknown material

Not. Comparable. At. All.

If you can't see the difference, I'm not even going to bother responding to your other statements.

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@sebast_allen: ahahahahahha

Kurse throws a boulder of unknown size and composition and somehow it equals 340 tons?

WRONG.

See a quantifiable feat works like this

Nam-Ek throws a Locomotive at Superman.

Lets use Amtrak as an example, since they're a big train corporation in the US

The most common type of locomotive in their rolling stock is this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_Genesis#P42DC

That things weights between 268,000-275,000 pounds. Or 134-137 tons.

That is how you quantify a feat. Not "Oh look a big rock it must equal 340 tons. Oh look a big area, it must equal 2 miles"

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6063/kidgokureallifeboulder.jpg

that, on a science program was stated to be 340 tons, what kurse had in his hands was same or larger size, show me Faora tanking anything remotely on that level, or he flies through her.

Lets look at other ridiculous statements

  • Lightning killed Leviathans? Nope. They just backed off back into the portal. At no point do we see them die byt this attack
    • Nope, it blew up up the monsters underside, then they ran, how would she tank ot dodge it i ask again
  • He didn't fail to hold it up. The beams he was standing on collapsed under him. The structure couldn't hold the weight, not him
    • It knocked him out, that was my point
  • Thor combat speed? He shows none. At all. He never fights in the air with Mjolnir. He never reacts at superspeeds, he never attack someone at speed. Unlike the Kryptonians who've done all of that.
    • He fought in the air against the destroyer and batted away it's super fast beams casually, while fighting malekith shot point blank projectiles at thor, thor dodged them and still hit malekith, when malekith hit thor into the air, a second later thor blitzed him via bullrush. And mjolnir could tag Faora, and if he hits her with a full power strike of lightning, or mjolnir, she's out

At the end of the day Thor has no combat speed, inconsistent durability and no real impressive strength feats that you can quantify.

Inconsistent how? he tanked leviathen breaking hulk with a bleeding nose and Kurse with some bruises and cuts, he has tanked harder shots than supes

All you have is ridiculously, illogical statements.

Lol.

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@sebast_allen: ahahahahahha

Kurse throws a boulder of unknown size and composition and somehow it equals 340 tons?

WRONG.

See a quantifiable feat works like this

Nam-Ek throws a Locomotive at Superman.

Lets use Amtrak as an example, since they're a big train corporation in the US

The most common type of locomotive in their rolling stock is this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_Genesis

That things weights between 268,000-275,000 pounds. Or 134-137 tons.

That is how you quantify a feat. Not "Oh look a big rock it must equal 340 tons. Oh look a big area, it must equal 2 miles"

Lets look at other ridiculous statements

  • Lightning killed Leviathans? Nope. They just backed off back into the portal. At no point do we see them die byt this attack
  • He didn't fail to hold it up. The beams he was standing on collapsed under him. The structure couldn't hold the weight, not him.
  • Thor combat speed? He shows none. At all. He never fights in the air with Mjolnir. He never reacts at superspeeds, he never attack someone at speed. Unlike the Kryptonians who've done all of that.

At the end of the day Thor has no combat speed, inconsistent durability and no real impressive strength feats that you can quantify.

All you have is ridiculously, illogical statements.

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1. Nope. He hasn't. And destroying featless fodder isn't impressive

2. You can't quantify the size of the area destroyed. Not even slightly.

3. See 2. You can't quantify anything. At no point, given that they spent about 30-60s running before they went to the edge of the cliff and they don't have super speed, the distance probably isn't even 1 mile.

4. Thor got stopped by the hill**** Superman crashed through a mountain and was like "meh"

This is how i replied to a supes vs Thor, it would be like the same outcome



Destroyers beams moved that fast, and thor batted them away casually, he dodged point blank projectiles, he fought in a war and didnt get tagged while fighting,he can make hurricanes to slow Supes down and atleast he can fly) , he has so many options it's not even funny. He wins dude, show me how Supes has feats that can tank leviathen killing lightning, let alone dodge it (he was not as fast as lighning)

How about you answer everything i said:

In the THOR:DARK WORLD

Kurse's (who is much more stronger than THOR) best strength feat is lifting and throwing a rock barely.

And what were the kryptonians, throwing cars? dude, boulders half that size of what kurse picked up have been shown to be 340 tons, and kurse didnt barely pick it up, he owned it. Those ships that went through metal and concrete like a kot knife through butter failed to get past the shield, kurse one shotted it and the jail cells. Kurse is way stronger than the kryptonians physically, leviathen killing hulk failed to make thor hurt, Kurse was making thor bleed, and thor still tanked

Kryptonians are throwing roads and cars like toys

refer to above

and even Thor's major attacks couldn't harm the superman because he is INVULNERABLE except other kryptonian

That explains why he got stomped when he failed to hold up that thing in the start of the movie, because it was kryptonian, dont be foolish, just because only kryptonians fought doesnt mean he can't be hurt by anything else! Hulk punched harder than zod, he would hurt supes, thor decimates miles of land in one shot, harder than anything supes can take kurse hits hard enough to make thor bleed. And thor has way more durability feats than supes

also mjölnir or Thor wouldn't tag with a kryptonian because IT'S NOT GIVING A COMBAT SPEED !

Thats like saying a bullet cant hit usain bolt because it has travel speed and not combat speed. In thor 2 it was bending and curving and going where thor willed it to. It was faster than supes, it went so fast that in space it was still causing friction and it can still be amped by lightning to hit harder.

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@sebast_allen:

1. Nope. He hasn't. And destroying featless fodder isn't impressive

2. You can't quantify the size of the area destroyed. Not even slightly.

3. See 2. You can't quantify anything. At no point, given that they spent about 30-60s running before they went to the edge of the cliff and they don't have super speed, the distance probably isn't even 1 mile.

4. Thor got stopped by the hill**** Superman crashed through a mountain and was like "meh"

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1. spoken like a true fanboy

Well taking into account that he has reacted to things that move faster than her and that his lightning would own her i dont think so.

2. and failed to destroy anything Vanaheim.

ground > ice

Did you watch thor 1? it was destroying miles of land, miles of land even as ice compressed will be as hard as the armour, you should rewatch the fight.

And he only destroyed a very small area. Jotunheim was still fine as evidenced by the fact that it shows up in movie 2. Don't overplay the feat.

Nope destroyed miles, and it took place 2 years later, plenty of time for rebuilding

Kryptonians were laying waste to concrete roads and buildings left and right just by crashing into them.

Thor was going through hills in thor two against kurse

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Faora.

But Thor's going to win anyway...he just had a new movie released last week...

Hell no!
Thor should win this fight. I haven't seen Thor 2 but there are so many users who can make stellar arguments for Thor.

But here, in CV, pretty sure Faora's gonna win.

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@queenfrost_: This exactly.

All things considered though, people are still having problems distinguishing between comics and movies. It has not been said that magic affects Kryptonians in the movie, so that point can't stand. Also, the Asgardians called it advanced science in Marvel's bid towards realism.

Apart from that, Faora's speed in MoS was very impressive. Her skill also. She didn't just blindly charge with hopes of landing a hit (like Thor did against both Ironman and Hulk in the Avengers).

Loki expecting he drop from the helicarrier in the Avengers to finish Thor does not bode well for his durability also.

Plus Faora had a knife, and we all know how well that worked out for Loki who didn't show strength anywhere near hers. If she goes for the kill with a slash to the neck, Thor is in quite a heap of trouble.

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Thor did show skill when fighting, in Thor 1 he showed skill when depowered and fighting all the frost giants, avengers he was dodging hulk easily and countering, had no problem fighting iron man, and in Thor 2 he showed skill on Vanaheim killing the fodder (hell, he didnt need to since he oneshotted someone with a mjolnir to the chest), and at one point he snapped a dude's neck with one arm while running through a bunch of guys.

@theironlord said:

Thor was getting tossed around by Hulk in Avengers, while Hulk himself wasn't really that powerful in his movie incarnation. To paint the picture more clearly, Hulk smashed Loki like he was nothing, while Thor was fighting Loki more like they were equals. Faora, on the other hand, was giving Supes run for his money, and she wasn't even at her peak. Zod and Superman were battling for like 15 minutes, throwing shots at each other, going through buildings, satellites, and in the end there was not a scratch on either of them. Assuming Faora is somewhere at the level of those two, I can't see movie Thor being able to do more than Kryptonian punches in the face for 15 minutes.

But, of course, her speed wins it for her instantly. You can't punch someone you can't catch or even tag. As much as I like Thor, he goes down... and not in the way he wishes he would ;)

In the comic between Thor and Avengers it explained that Odin's use of dark magic to send thor to earth weakened Thor and Odin, and he still did great while trying to calm hulk down.

Hulk is bigger and is strong enough to lift loki (not heavy), just grabbing him by the leg and slamming him a bunch wasnt really a fight, loki was expecting hulk to just submit.

Oh, I'm sure countering and dodging Hulk - huge and clumsy giant - is the same thing as countering tiny, much, much faster than himself Faora. I'm being sarcastic, just to be clear.

As for your second point, nothing (about weakened Thor) was explained in the movie, which is the only thing taken under consideration here. Not a word in Avengers about any depowering whatsoever.

If you claim Thor is as strong as Faora, or even stronger, he should have no problem manhandling Loki like a rag doll. Faora would have no more problem with slamming him than Hulk did. I mean, the Kryptonians were throwing trains in MoS like they were nothing, so if Thor's just as strong, a 200lb man shouldn't be a problem.

I know it was a bit of a cheap shot from Hulk, which by the way is just poor writing by Joss Whedon, because Loki getting surprised like that, especially by Hulk, is really stupid. But that just proves my point. Thor wouldn't even feel his heart being ripped from his chest before it was already in Faora's hand. One fast move before Thor has a chance to react and it's done for him.

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@thetruebarryallen: Comic versions don't apply here.Kryptonians aren't weak to magic their vulnerable.Not that movie versions showed that they were.

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Faora for the win. She has tanked/survived things that Thor has run away from, or has injured him. On the Helecarrier, Thor run away from aircraft gunfire, where as Faora would of just taken the hit. Thor would of fallen to his death if he didn't escape that steel trap Loki put him in.Faora would of survived unscathed. In Thor 2, Sif blocks a spear headed for Thor's head. Said spear wouldn't of scratched Faora. So she wins the durability battle.

It's not known how Magic affects Kryptonians. But it doesn't matter since Movie Thor isn't magical. Its just really advanced science.movie Asgardians are just aliens with God-like powers.

Just because she blocked it doesnt mean it would have killed thor, getting punched doesnt necessarily kill you, but people dont like getting punched. and, as shown in the film, the weapons werent normal, the shields had some sort of energy shield, the swords got all glowy too, why leave spears unmodified too? especially for being that dont die as easily as humans

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My vote for this fight goes to Thor.

In the most recent addition to the cinematic version of Thor, Thor 2, it was shown that Thor can take a freakishly amount of punishment without much effect. He didn't even seem in too rough of shape during his battle against Malekith and was able to dish out a solid amount of damage. Due to the fact that his hammer has magical properties it should give him a slight edge over Faora since she is a Kryptonian and IIRC they do have a slight weakness to magic.

This being said Faora is incredibly quick and agile, she'll land some pretty hard hits against Thor and cause him some pain, but Thor should be able to recover from the hits. Faora also isn't adjusted to the climate of Earth so if Thor is able to breach her suit she'll be struggling with the atmosphere along with a God trying to beat the pulp out of her.

The fight is tough, the fight is long, the fight belongs to Thor.

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Thor did show skill when fighting, in Thor 1 he showed skill when depowered and fighting all the frost giants, avengers he was dodging hulk easily and countering, had no problem fighting iron man, and in Thor 2 he showed skill on Vanaheim killing the fodder (hell, he didnt need to since he oneshotted someone with a mjolnir to the chest), and at one point he snapped a dude's neck with one arm while running through a bunch of guys.

Thor was getting tossed around by Hulk in Avengers, while Hulk himself wasn't really that powerful in his movie incarnation. To paint the picture more clearly, Hulk smashed Loki like he was nothing, while Thor was fighting Loki more like they were equals. Faora, on the other hand, was giving Supes run for his money, and she wasn't even at her peak. Zod and Superman were battling for like 15 minutes, throwing shots at each other, going through buildings, satellites, and in the end there was not a scratch on either of them. Assuming Faora is somewhere at the level of those two, I can't see movie Thor being able to do more than Kryptonian punches in the face for 15 minutes.

But, of course, her speed wins it for her instantly. You can't punch someone you can't catch or even tag. As much as I like Thor, he goes down... and not in the way he wishes he would ;)

In the comic between Thor and Avengers it explained that Odin's use of dark magic to send thor to earth weakened Thor and Odin, and he still did great while trying to calm hulk down.

Hulk is bigger and is strong enough to lift loki (not heavy), just grabbing him by the leg and slamming him a bunch wasnt really a fight, loki was expecting hulk to just submit.

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Faora. Shes faster and just as strong as Thor.

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Thor haves no chance even landing a punch he is screwed

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Thor was getting tossed around by Hulk in Avengers, while Hulk himself wasn't really that powerful in his movie incarnation. To paint the picture more clearly, Hulk smashed Loki like he was nothing, while Thor was fighting Loki more like they were equals. Faora, on the other hand, was giving Supes run for his money, and she wasn't even at her peak. Zod and Superman were battling for like 15 minutes, throwing shots at each other, going through buildings, satellites, and in the end there was not a scratch on either of them. Assuming Faora is somewhere at the level of those two, I can't see movie Thor being able to do more than Kryptonian punches in the face for 15 minutes.

But, of course, her speed wins it for her instantly. You can't punch someone you can't catch or even tag. As much as I like Thor, he goes down... and not in the way he wishes he would ;)

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Faora for the win. She has tanked/survived things that Thor has run away from, or has injured him. On the Helecarrier, Thor run away from aircraft gunfire, where as Faora would of just taken the hit. Thor would of fallen to his death if he didn't escape that steel trap Loki put him in.Faora would of survived unscathed. In Thor 2, Sif blocks a spear headed for Thor's head. Said spear wouldn't of scratched Faora. So she wins the durability battle.

It's not known how Magic affects Kryptonians. But it doesn't matter since Movie Thor isn't magical. Its just really advanced science.movie Asgardians are just aliens with God-like powers.

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Now from what I remember of MOS even when protected (by their suits) from the rays of the sun they were still able to gain super strength and speed so I'll base my argument with that in my mind as well as the idea that the sudden initial exposure to the yellow sun isn't the only reason they are disoriented and that adjusting to the overall atmosphere of earth factors in with that disorientation.

I can see it going either way but with Thor having the more favorable matchup. Even while in the suit Faora has shown enough strength to fight Thor and speed that in my opinion is just too much for Thor to handle as long as she is able to maintain that advantage and not letting Thor to be able to direct lightning towards her or getting a hit she can whittle down Thor but here's where Thor can shine. Movie Thor has shown great durability taking a heavy beating from both Kurse and even Aether-powered Malekith without even a hint of getting knocked out so assuming Thor can use that to his advantage all he needs is one good hit that would damage Faora's suit enough that her suit would expose her to Earth's atmosphere and he effectively takes care of her speed advantage. I'd also assume that the strength of the lightning that Thor can unleash should just as well be a factor in slowing down Faora. In the end you take away Faora's speed advantage it gives Thor enough time to go for the knockout, even if say Faora manages to use her speed to make a temporary tactical retreat I doubt Thor's just going to standby and wait.

Granted my information that I'm basing my assumptions off could be off and that a slight change in my information could turn this fight around or make it a stomp in favor of one character but as it stands with my understanding of the info I give it to Thor.

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@misternefarious: are you serious? The kryptonians were way stronger than hulk, yeah I'll give hulk movie version credit for punching the huge worm thingy from avengers, but these kryptonians had way more durability and they were speed blitzing everyone. Faora had really good fighting skills as well, she was a trained soldier from krypton. The characters in this movie were easily throwing cars through buildings, throwing trains at each other, it was insane. It was like a dragon ball z fight. But thor showed really high durability feats on his 2nd movie too. He beat malekith and the tall buff bull mask looking monster. So at the end of the day it could go either way but my money is on faora because of the ridiculous speed advantage

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im voting faora despite the cliche "good guys always win" and i know the fan boys are all going to vote for thor. but whatevs. she is too awesome. the power of superman mixed with her military training and ruthlessness, no way to win

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This is awesome, gotta see Thor 2 first though. Im leaning Faora.

I said the EXACT same thing when I first saw this! Good thing tomorrow is $5 movie day at my local theatre.

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faora: super fast and super strong

thor: super strong

winner: faora

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I'm surprised by the comments about Thor being a mere brawler and lacking combat skill... In the first Thor film he showed amazing fighting skills without Mjolnir and wiped the floor with a handful of S.H.I.E.L.D agents. In regards to the fight, I'm leaning towards Thor. Though Faora's speed gives her a massive advantage, which I'm sure is going to keep being mentioned.

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Thor showed a really high durability in TDW but he and Loki can be slaped by a mere human girl and that doesnt make any sense, so its confusing... plus Faora is too fast for him

plus Kriptonians dont have magic weakness yet in MoS universe

Faora shoud win

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Faora. Thor showed no ability to use super speed in combat.

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She fought a pretty young, inexperienced Supes, and still lost. Thor, even movie Thor, has been doing this for ages.

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@fallschirmjager said:

@caseyjustice said:

Thor, for two reasons:

1: Experience. Faora is military trained, but Thor has THOUSANDS of years of combat experience under his belt.

2: The suit. If Faora is not acclimated to Earth conditions, one good crack in the suit (which Mijolnir will readily provide) and she's severely handicapped.

1. For all his years of experience, he shows almost no skill. He brawls in every single fight he's in. Just like comic Thor. Faora on the other hand, displays skill as she dismantles Superman.

2. Those suits tanked small arms fire, Superman's heat vision, 40mm grenade shells, atmospheric reentry, 30mm depleted uranium shells from A-10 warhogs, missile blasts and other massive explosions and more. Its laughable to think they would break so easily. Mjolnir doesn't have feats to suggest it can break them.

Perhaps the suit can hold it's own, but the helmet she wears (which prevents sensory overload) definitely will not hold up well against Thor. *See "Man of Steel: "It hurts doesn't it?" clip. All it took were a few punches and a smash through a gas station to disable Zods helmet.

The fact that Faora is not acclimated to Earth's atmosphere is the deciding factor. No eye lasers and no flight really weaken her in the ranged department. What's to stop Thor from flying up and doing that finishing move he did to the destroyer armour? Picture it: Thor will Fly up and charge up his tornado, if Faora tries to leap and attack she will most definitely be seen coming from a mile away and be swatted out. Thor charges up his tornado, resulting in Faora floating in the air (against which she really can't do anything) following which Thor lights her up like a Christmas tree.

Yes she's fast, skilled and strong. And yes she will definitely give Thor hell. But Thor deserves at least some credit for his warrior background, another scenario involves him without a doubt get into a scuffle with Faora during which her protective helmet will be damaged at which point sensory overload will ensue, resulting in Thor capitalizing and landing the finishing blow.

Thor Wins IMO.

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Faora. She is much faster than anything Thor has ever encountered. Faora was casually dodging and countering Superman's speed, who is much faster than Thor.

Faora can tag Thor. I really, really don't see Thor ever tagging Faora, and certainly not landing a hit at full force.

However, I do applaud this thread. You know why? Because it compares Thor to a character weaker than Superman. Says a lot.

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Faora would solo the entire cast of the avengers.

ridiculous stomp in her favor.

Pretty much, I love how people think Faora is a "generic" kryptonian lol.

Movie versions she'd stomp Thor badly...

What would happen.

Faora: You're weak blondy

Thor: (takes tend years to summon lightning spinning his little hammer)By Odin's mighty Hammer, Smith Thi....*%$arghhh

Faora:speed blitz!!!!!

Thor: K.O. WTF just hit me

Faora: Pathetic...

Seriously, on top of that she was giving Clark some trouble(who would demolish Thor) and she has no morals...

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im sorry but Faora

shes too fast and good at fighting

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Usually the best way to figure these things out is break down their various skills, equipment, and powers into different catagories then compare and contrast until you can come up with a clear cut decision.

Fighting Skills:

Thor- Has fought in countless battles and has thousands of years of experience in laying down the six herbs and seven layers of pain. His fighting style is mainly a brawler that relies on brute strength and his hammer while putting little focus on defense and blocking.

Faora- Hasn't been in as many battles as Thor but does have military training and showed exceptional skill when fighting Superman. Her fighting style takes advantage of her massive speed, skill, and strength to evade attacks or block them them before going on the offensive.

EDGE: Faora. Anyone whose been in a real fight knows speed and skill will beat a brawler that relies on brute strength and doesn't use much defense.

Weaponry:

Thor- Mjolnir. One of the most powerful weapons to ever come out of Asgard. Combined with his super strength he was able to land hits on the Hulk that did a fair job of knocking Banner around. It also gives him ranged attacks in the form of lightning and throwing said hammer.

Faora- She didn't use much weaponry in the film other than her knife really. Combined with her speed, strength, and edge in fighting skill she can give Thor a run for his money in close combat. She doesn't have any range abilities though.

EDGE: I'll get to that when I talk about their armor and defense abilities. Weaponry really boils down to how effective it is against your opponent's defense.

Defense/Armor:

Thor- Asgardian plate armor that has what looks like leather of some sort between the plates and some sort of metallic scale armor covering his arms. Face and head are bare and thus vunerable to attack. That being said, he did take blows from the Hulk without even getting a black eye. This is the same Hulk that took out a massive alien ship with one punch.

Faora- Covered head to toe in an extremely tough battle suit. She took punishment from A-10 Warthogs, missiles, and depleted urnanium shells without any real damage other than being knocked around a bit.

Weaponry vs. Defense/Armor:

Thor's hammer VS. Faora's Armor- Thor's hammer and lighting do put out a vicious offense but when he fought Iron Man his hammer caused similar damage to what Tony's suit recieved from military hardware. Thus, Thor's hammer can do similar damage to missiles and such which Faora's armor handled without and problem.

Faora's knife VS. Thor's Armor- She can hurt him with it and easily do so. Even Loki was able to stab Thor in the Avengers and his strength level is far below Faora's. Her knife is much longer and she's got the speed and fighting skills to get around a brawler that fights with little focus on defense.

EDGE: Faora. She's more likely to land a lethat blow with her knife than Thor is with his hammer. He can certainly take her punches no problem, but she has more than punches. Her armor can take the punishment his hammer can dish out. That being said it would be a game changer if Thor could get knock her down and place the hammer on her chest like he did with Loki.

Mindset:

Thor- Honorable warrior that will might actually try to talk at first and get her to surrender as he might be afraid of killing or crippling her.

Faora- Vicious. Plain and simple. While Thor is talking she's likely to rush in and start the fight, which could possibly catch him off guard.

EDGE: Faora.

CONCLUSION: I love Thor and i'm a hardcore Marvel over DC fan but after some serious thought about the match up, she wins in many catagories. It's almost physically painful for me to admit, but Faora actually has Thor severely outclassed in a one on one fight.

Winner: Faora.

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Movie Thor is quite a bit weaker than comic Thor, while Kryptonians are still as over-powered as they've always been, so the Kryptonian wins. Comic Thor vs. comic Kryptonian would be another matter. Also, Antje Traue is even prettier than Hemsworth, and that's saying something, because he's a very pretty man.

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Remember, only posts in the poll thread can be considered for Viner Argument of the Week.

(Why? It's easier checking just one thread after 5 days of posts)

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@ironshinobi88: Lol...And how exactly do he catch her??I'll wait for your response..

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Faora's got speed and combat training for her here. I don't see how she can deal with Thor and the Hammer. HE can short circuit her suit and snap her neck like Supes did with ZOd.

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Let me take a shot at this.

Firstly this battle is going to be one hell of a slug fest. One packs insane speed and reflexes while the other durability and brutal strikes. To be honest I am going to give thid too Thor. Faora is extremely powerful don't get me wrong, she was beating the crap out of Superman himself. To be honest speed can only get you so far unless your Flash. Thor has insane durability in his movie apperances. ( He spent most of Thor 2 getting rag dolled )As much as Faora hits him he'll keep getting right back up no matter the hit. One hit from Mjolnir would lay her out pretty well as she didn't seem to have the best of durability. Thor can have Mjolnir return back from a throw and hit her because she wouldn't know It comes back to him. of don't see her skill doing much here as she's not going to be able to counter hammer smashes from Thor. As I've said one will lay her flat, and another will lay her unconscious. Thor's weather manipulation will help too as he has good aim and power with it. Two examples would be one In Avengers when he used it to close the Chitari portal. ( Used Stark tower as focal point ) Second on Malekith in Thor 2 when he burned of half his face with a simple lighting blast. Sooner or later Foara is going to get cocky and play around since it will be hard for Thor to tag her or he'll tag her with a hammer toss. So yeah in my opinion Thor got this.

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I have to go with Faora.

I mean, it's movie versions we're talking about. Thor is outmatched as far as fighting skills, speed and agility are concerned. Perhaps even strength and durability. But those two I wouldn't be so sure of.

I say, she breaks his arms (leaving him with no way to swing mjolnir) before he even knows what happened. Then goes for 'Superman Snap' and that's all she wrote.

Speed is the crucial thing here. Movie thor is really slow compared to her, so I can't really imagine anything he can do to hurt her.

But then again, I think Thor will be the winner, simply because he has a much bigger fanbase and I can't really see him losing.

My vote: Faora. All the way.