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Comic Vine Battle of the Week: Colossus vs. X-O Manowar

Aric of Valiant or Piotr of Marvel? These two powerhouses are at odds and the winner will be determined by you. Yes, you. So get in here and vote.

Piotr Rasputin and his raw strength and durability or Aric of Dacia and the sheer power his armor gives him? Can Valiant's powerhouse blast away the X-Men's heavy hitter or will the Marvel character dish out a major dose of pain? Look, we realize not everyone is an expert on these two characters, so that's why voting will stay open until Friday morning (ET). There's no need to vote right away if you're not sure how this would go down. That should give you plenty of time to research both characters and cast your vote, yes?

Comic Vine Battle of the Week Rules

  • Random encounter.
  • Both are in character.
  • Colossus' power will not fluctuate. He'll remained armored.
  • Knockout, incapacitation, BFR or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too.
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. They start roughly 30 feet apart and visible. There's a lot of cover between them (a variety of idle vehicles, bus stops, dumpster bins, benches, etc.). The entire city region is on limits (rooftops, inside buildings, alleyways, sewers, etc.).
  • It's not mandatory, but if you take time to vote, elaborating as well would be extra awesome. Keep things informative and your post could be the next Viner Argument of the Week!

Click the following link to cast your vote. Again, it would be extra cool if you could get your elaboration on as well. If you vote for a side, be sure to tell us why. Oh, and do try to remember this is just a conversation about fictional characters fighting, so keep things informative and not personal.

CLICK HERE TO VOTE!!!

Viners, you have the week to research, debate and vote! This means there's no reason to vote right away if you don't have all of the info you need to make an educated decision. Check the homepage Friday for an updated article with the following:

  • Thoughts from the CV staff.
  • A Viner Argument in favor of the poll's winner (can't include scans and must be in the poll thread).
  • If we're lucky, blurbs from industry talent.

Feel free to make future match suggestions in the comments below or via Gregg's Twitter page.

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Posted by G_leno

Cant vote yet, I know nothing of XO.

Posted by Sovereign91001

I think Aric should win however I'll be very surprised if he does.

Posted by ColaNicole

@g_leno: I know nothing of either.

Posted by TheManInTheShoe

X-O Manowar ftw

Posted by ptigrusmagus

X-O

Edited by medulaoblaganda
Posted by TheManInTheShoe

@medulaoblaganda: Well, I've read enough comics to get to the conclusion that X-O Manowar is more powerful than Colossus

Posted by sagejonathan

I'm going to say X-O Manowar. I know very little about Colossus but if super strength and incredible durability are his only powers, I'm sure Aric could take him out without much problem. Also, we have yet to see all of Shnahara's abilities.

Posted by medulaoblaganda

@themanintheshoe: what are is powers? i want to challenge you in this argument lol wont that be fun?

Posted by micah

@medulaoblaganda: Mind if I take this one, X-O Manwars strength is enough to match if not overcome colossus his energy abilities are extremely powerful thus giving him the edge at long range add that with the fact he can fly at incredible speeds and don't forget this is a guy who is so durable he has destroyed alien spacecraft, U.S battleships and aircraft and even some enemies simply by flying through them

Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan

XO should take this.

Edited by D_Knight

I am not an expert in valiant comics i only read a handful post re-launch. I did read the first issue of unity were XO essentially leveled a section of eastern Europe and the powers at be in the valiant universe were scrambling to to find any hope of defeating the guy. Colossus is a power house but can only really punch his problems, even with the Juggernaut abilities he briefly head it would be hard to get in close to do much damage. I think a better match up would have been green lantern vs X0 since they both have the " most powerful weapon" in their respective universes.

Posted by medulaoblaganda

@micah: colossus can lift roughly 100 tons. colossus is very very durable to the extent that he fought and held is own against juggernaut. i dont know X-O at all. dont you think colossus can tank whatever X-O dishes out to him? for example, when x-o blast colossus, colossus with tank it big time. if is incredible flight speed is aimed at colossus, i bet you colossus will recover immediately. you dont underestimate colossus nigh durability. and what makes you think colossus is capable of destroying a spacecraft, us battleships and aircraft? colossus can do all that and even more. except flying. colossus doesnt fly anyway. you turn bro!!

Posted by k4tzm4n

@d_knight said:

I am not an expert in valiant comics i only read a handful post re-launch. I did read the first issue of unity were XO essentially leveled a section of eastern Europe and the powers at be in the valiant universe were scrambling to to find any hope of defeating the guy. Colossus is a power house but can only really punch his problems, even with the Juggernaut abilities he briefly head it would be hard to get in close to do much damage. I think a better match up would have been green lantern vs X0 since they both have the " most powerful weapon" in their respective universes.

I considered John Stewart, but Stewart's more versatile and has more/better feats.

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Posted by micah

@medulaoblaganda: X-O blast pack more than enough punch to stun colossus, colossus then will try to bum rush Manwar but knowing nothing about him will be taken off guard by his energy sword and savage, and brutal but effective combat techniques X-O will then take off to a ranged distance and go Dragon Ball Z levels of energy attacks on him. Colossus will either be K-O or will retreat, your turn :)

Posted by SoftMachineOo

X-O seems to powerfull for colossus.

Posted by dondave

X-O seems to powerfull for colossus.

Based upon what?

Edited by micah

@k4tzm4n: Next you should do Ninjak vs Storm Shadow or Snake Eyes

Posted by micah
Edited by dondave

@micah said:

@dondave: All of Valiant :)

None of his feats since the Valiant relaunch would allow him to drop Colossus

Posted by micah

@dondave: Excuse me, All of Valiant since the relaunch

Posted by Baltoro
@k4tzm4n said:

@d_knight said:

I am not an expert in valiant comics i only read a handful post re-launch. I did read the first issue of unity were XO essentially leveled a section of eastern Europe and the powers at be in the valiant universe were scrambling to to find any hope of defeating the guy. Colossus is a power house but can only really punch his problems, even with the Juggernaut abilities he briefly head it would be hard to get in close to do much damage. I think a better match up would have been green lantern vs X0 since they both have the " most powerful weapon" in their respective universes.

I considered John Stewart, but Stewart's more versatile and has more/better feats.

You're right k4tzm4n, XO isn't ready to go against the lanterns like Hal Jordan, Guy Gardener and John Stewart. Colossus has heart and the berserk factor going for him, how well does XO take a hit from an enraged Colossus? It will be a factor here, there's no way Colossus is going down without landing a punch.

Unlike Juggernaut, Colossus doesn't just punch his enemies away to give up the distance again, he stays on them when he smells blood and keeps pounding them into submission...he's got grappling and innovative attacks. He threw Wolverine into orbit, that requires throwing a man weighing more than 300 lbs approximately 25,000 miles/hr.

Posted by MaccyD

X-O can just stay up in the air, No matter what Colossus tries, he will always be on the defensive.

Also, anyone who doesn't read any Valiant, shame on you!

Posted by AlKusanagi

Pete is super strong and super tough, but his options end there. XO just has far more tools at his disposal.

Edited by Deadknight

I just don't see this being a contest. X-O just has the advantage, plain and simple. Thought-controlled armor with flight, lasers, and who knows all what else simply trumps Colossus, even with his impressive strength and durability. Heck, the current incarnation defeated and entire alien race and basically acted as a one-man nuclear deterrent against the US military. I don't think one man, even one like Colossus, stands much of a chance.

A better match in my opinion would be X-O vs Iron Man. Then we'd have the barbarian warrior Aric with advanced alien tech vs the weapons and tech genius Tony Stark in a suit that he himself created and knows virtually every aspect of. THAT would be a close match to call.

Posted by LenSnart

X0 manowar is too powerful

Edited by k4tzm4n

@maccyd said:

X-O can just stay up in the air, No matter what Colossus tries, he will always be on the defensive.

Also, anyone who doesn't read any Valiant, shame on you!

He can, but since when would that be in character? :P

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Posted by medulaoblaganda

@micah:

colossus heart was rip out suddenly.

Whoa! That was one intense scene and it gets so weird when suddenly Colossus is still alive after his heart was ripped out. dont you think colossus will survive? for what have seen here right now. this shows colossus can take any damage x-o dishes at him. colossus can fight all day without getting tired.

Edited by dondave

@medulaoblaganda said:

@micah:

colossus heart was rip out suddenly.

Whoa! That was one intense scene and it gets so weird when suddenly Colossus is still alive after his heart was ripped out. dont you think colossus will survive? for what have seen here right now. this shows colossus can take any damage x-o dishes at him. colossus can fight all day without getting tired.

That's Ultimate Colossus. He's not being used here.

Posted by dondave

@lensnart said:

X0 manowar is too powerful

Based on what? He has hasn't face anyone as powerful as Colossus.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@deadknight said:

I just don't see this being a contest. X-O just has the advantage, plain and simple. Thought-controlled armor with flight, lasers, and who knows all what else simply trumps Colossus, even with his impressive strength and durability. Heck, the current incarnation defeated and entire alien race and basically acted as a one-man nuclear deterrent against the US military. I don't think one man, even one like Colossus, stands much of a chance.

A better match in my opinion would be X-O vs Iron Man. Then we'd have the barbarian warrior Aric with advanced alien tech vs the weapons and tech genius Tony Stark in a suit that he himself created and knows virtually every aspect of. THAT would be a close match to call.

To be fair, put Colossus on that planet and he'd obliterate the Vine's forces, too. As of right now, there's literally nothing to indict that X-O can simply tank a hit from Piotr since he hasn't faced anything nearly as strong. He'll obviously survive, but the impact could definitely change the course of the fight. Throw in Aric's brash nature and it's safe to say he'll get within hand-to-hand range at least in the beginning of the fight.

Respectfully disagree. Iron Man has waaaaaaaaay more feats than modern X-O and is a much better tactician. Plus, I try to avoid the generic "similar character vs. similar character" matches. I'd much rather make people weigh totally different advantages and make them think about hold much value should be applied to each one.

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Posted by Deadknight

I'll just leave these moments to support my backing for X-O Manowar:

X-O vs alien army - X-O Manowar #13
X-O vs aliens in similar armor - X-O Manowar #9
Grenade punch. Enough said. - X-O Manowar #5

Posted by metaljeff77

I'm going to say X-O Manowar

Posted by Cavemold

Going with XO. Colassus isn't even the strongest mutant. Xo could take out any mutant. He's as powerful as a nuclear bomb And more

Posted by medulaoblaganda

@dondave: @dondave: if thats ultimate colossus, then which is stronger eath 616 or marvel now collosus, and ultimate colossus? dont forget earth 616 colossus held is own against the juggernaut in the past. if we are to use colossusnaught at full power, then x-o is in trouble haha.

Edited by k4tzm4n

@cavemold said:

Going with XO. Colassus isn't even the strongest mutant. Xo could take out any mutant. He's as powerful as a nuclear bomb And more

Saying "I disagree" doesn't properly express just how much I disagree with this statement.

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Posted by cobracaptain

X-O

Posted by k4tzm4n

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Posted by dondave

@k4tzm4n said:

@ealsong1 said:

my classmate's mother makes $62 hourly on the laptop. She has been laid off for nine months but last month her pay was $21431 just working on the laptop for a few hours. their website,,,,,,

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Sorry to inform you, but I think she lied to you.

LMAO

Posted by Pokergeist

@micah:

colossus heart was rip out suddenly.

Whoa! That was one intense scene and it gets so weird when suddenly Colossus is still alive after his heart was ripped out. dont you think colossus will survive? for what have seen here right now. this shows colossus can take any damage x-o dishes at him. colossus can fight all day without getting tired.

EPIC FAIL

That is Ultimate Colossus vs Ultimate Wolverine.

Seriously guy, try no to post random crap and not expect to get called out.

Posted by RisingBean

Damnit. I'm only a trade into X-O so far.

On paper he has all the bells and whistles and in some of the scans above seems even tougher then where I left off.

Pete has heart though.

Posted by thesleuth

X-O!

He packs enough power to at least K.O. Colossus IMO.

Posted by AssertingValor

Colossus' durability will be hard to succumb

Posted by Dstick88

I just don't see this being a contest. X-O just has the advantage, plain and simple. Thought-controlled armor with flight, lasers, and who knows all what else simply trumps Colossus, even with his impressive strength and durability. Heck, the current incarnation defeated and entire alien race and basically acted as a one-man nuclear deterrent against the US military. I don't think one man, even one like Colossus, stands much of a chance.

A better match in my opinion would be X-O vs Iron Man. Then we'd have the barbarian warrior Aric with advanced alien tech vs the weapons and tech genius Tony Stark in a suit that he himself created and knows virtually every aspect of. THAT would be a close match to call.

I have to agree here that would have been a great match up

Posted by jason_g

X-O all the way

Posted by dondave

X-O!

He packs enough power to at least K.O. Colossus IMO.

Based on?

Posted by Baltoro

I'll just leave these moments to support my backing for X-O Manowar:

X-O vs alien army - X-O Manowar #13
X-O vs aliens in similar armor - X-O Manowar #9
Grenade punch. Enough said. - X-O Manowar #5

Colossus isn't losing to a grenade buddy...or is he being limited to human form to make this a fair fight? If X-O tried to punch him he'd get his arm broken rather quickly. Then again some other guy on the voting thread was claiming X-O has Superman level strength, I think the X-O fans must be sharing a supply of some seriously good stuff to smoke personally.

Colossus would beat him in h2h fairly quickly.

Posted by Deadknight

@baltoro: True, Colossus would beat X-O in h2h most likely, but X-O is not limited to only his hands. His energy blasts and energy blades had hacked through numerous enemies and metals before. It's uncertain whether they would have a similar effect on Colossus, but they would undoubtedly do some serious damage.

Another point though, Aric's armor can also heal him - at one point it even regrew his entire hand. Colossus is one of the toughest beings around, but when he's finally put down, he can only stay down.

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