Comic Vine Battle of the Week: Arkillo vs. Hulk

I'm a big Hulk fan...even I have to admit the Hulk would lose due to the fact of that ring, if Arkillo uses it right. Like cutting the big guy's head off. Anything else without that ring, Arkillo is someone's toilet mess to clean up. Even if Arkillo with his massive ego uses the ring to enhanced his strength...is someone's last night drinking puke mess on the floor. It's impossible to even consider that idea. But at the DC's hall of 'why Superman will win or Batman will win...' isn't considering many of those factors. For years, I have wondered what would happen if Super Blue Cheez went against any Green Lantern(s) and who would win in a good fight? Well that simple...Green Lantern and the ring can project any type of radiation until the writers at DC decided to change that important factor. Lol. Shame on DC...Shame on any fan believing that Superman is all powerful. Which brings me back to Arkillo. He will win if he uses the ring to behead the Hulk. Anything else without that ring...A real mess on someone's front lawn. Don't even think CSI can place his butt back together.

even hulk has to feel fear.

So, I think Arkillo should win this. I don't even see this as a fair fight.

Hulk is far, far stronger than Arkillo. They are not even in the same weight class. If it's just a physical brawl, then there is no contest, Hulk wins.

Yet, the ring is far far stronger than Hulk (not in strength but as a weapon in general). If Arkillo has full use of the ring, it shouldn't be a contest. Arkillo wins.

Ring > Hulk > Arkillo

We know that Arkillo has the ring, we've seen him use it. It should be case closed.

Except that in true comic book fan form, people are saying that Arkillo is unable to make advanced constructs and would be unable to use the ring to defeat the Hulk.

Well, that may be, but I don't think it makes sense for the following reasons:

• Arkillo was the drill sergeant for new recruits, showing them how to make constructs and use their rings. It's fair to say he knows how to use it as necessary.
• While he may be a brute and prefer physical attacks, there is no reason to think he is limited to that.
• We have seen him make nets, bubbles, and advanced constructs of beings. Why wouldn't he put Hulk in a bubble or contain him some how?
• He has never faced anything like the Hulk. He would likely use the ring as a gamechanger.
• Hie biggest fights were against Mongul and Kilowog, both who had rings.
• Having a ring from a different corps grants some immunity to the rings attacks such as mind control or animation (speculation on my part)

Based on what we know, it makes sense to assume that Arkillo is extremely capable with the ring, despite a lack of feats demonstrating this.

• The ring would not have chosen someone incapable
• Sinestro would not have made him Drill Seargent to teach recruits about the ring if he didn't know how to use it
• He would not have risen to leader of the corps if he was incapable

We haven't seen him make many advanced constructs. That in no way means he is incapable and to assume he can't contradicts what we know.

Furthermore, look at some of the powers of the ring:

• Animating
• Energy Projection
• Energy Constructs
• Flight
• Mind Control
• Power Absorbing
• Radiation
• Probing

So some of the ways Arkillo could beat Hulk would be BFRing him with a bubble, using the mind control aspects to calm or deceive him, deprive him of oxygen, fly him into space....etc.

I see this battle as a really weird pair up. While we have a lack of feats for Arkillo, based on the information we have it should be a no brainer that Arkillo would use the ring to quickly gain the advantage after realizing he was outclassed. If he doesn't use the ring, then Hulk win's by default. This battle isn't a fair match-up, and victory is decided solely on if Arkillo uses the ring or not.

Considering there is no reason he wouldn't use the ring, Arkillo should win.

I know this is an old post, but how is Wolverine getting the jump on Hulk and ramming six twelve inch long claws into the sensitive areas of his brain to temporarily incapacitate PIS?

The fact it doesn't happen to more of Logan's antagonists is the real PIS. Claw punch through the head is the more realistic outcome if you trade mitts with a martial master wielding blades for knuckles you ask me ...

That said, head on, Hulk would win 9 out of 10 times. Wolverine would get overrun and overpowered despite his superior combat speed and skill. But, like a real wolverine in the wild (that can take out a polar bear by jumping on its back), Wolverine jumped on Hulk's back and temporarily took him out. Not inconceivable at all whatsoever. If you notice where he plunged his claws, being a master martial artist, he obviously knows anatomy and where to best compromise the brain ...

The pics you posted actually show Wolverine as Death as having gotten the upper hand on Hulk. He hesitated before plunging his claws into Hulk's face, fighting Apocalypse's conditioning, supplying the opening Hulk needed to, well, effectively SMASH. Had he not hesitated, Hulk would have ended up with Logan's claws through his head. Whether or not that would have been enough remains to be seen ... but Savage Wolverine #5 seems to suggest it wouldn't tickle.

Half his head off? Not aware of that showing. You have a reference?

I would say, regardless, that not all parts of the brain shut you down right away (anatomy 101 learned by the ineffable Hannibal Lecter - yes, I find my education in the highest of places). Wolverine got the jump, and obviously placed his claws in areas meant to inhibit Hulk from functioning and to shut him down (however temporarily), holding his claws in place till the lights went out. Can liken it to a pressure point attack - only one that's extremely vicious and would leave all save those with the most potent of healing factors dead on the spot. I liken it to Elektra's sais placed in specific nerve clusters that kept Wolverine immobile till removed and the healing factor could repair the damage - only her attack was far less damaging.

The Gorilla's were mutated if I'm not mistaken ... not like it was an ordinary run of the mill gorilla or anything. Closer to a miniature King Kong than "Amy" from the Congo movie. But yeah, not Hulk's strongest of outings. Gorilla just bit him anyway. Not like it was going to give a serious minded Hulk real trouble. More of a distraction than anything else ... one Wolverine took full advantage of. Kind of a stupid all round read I can agree. I just don't think it's terrible to see Hulk drop, however temporarily, to having 12 inch claws rammed through choice areas of his brain.

@theacidskull:

First, thanks for the scans. Looks like he tore into his own face and scalp, while the virus started infecting / mutating what was left - but it doesn't look like he literally tore half his head off or even dug into his brain. In any case, it's far different from having multiple blades rammed into vulnerable parts of your brain, and held there. But yeah, Hulk is bad@$$.

I realize there was a lot of tongue in cheek in that issue. Hulk didn't really unload or anything on the gorilla in question so I don't think the writer intended Hulk to struggle with it overly long. Shanna kicking the gorilla, even an ordinary gorilla (let alone gorillas that could bite into Hulk without breaking a tooth and give Wolverine pause), and having it fly back even remotely is extremely silly indeed, cannot deny.

Had Shanna not actually been shown able to adversely effect one with a kick, then I would have taken less exception. So yeah, we are in agreement there. It was silly.

Wolverine's faster, harder to hit, and so having seen him dance with three of the gorillas doesn't really bother overly much, or dampen their potential strength / power levels. Brute force trauma is Wolverine's bread and butter after all. We all know Hulk would have crushed the one with ease had the fight gone more than a few panels and had it gotten serious. The gorilla bit an unsuspecting Hulk, got smacked aside by Shanna, then Wolverine unjustifiably goes bonkers on Hulk's head. Not saying the comic was any good ...

What I am saying, is I feel Wolverine could drop Hulk with such a maneuver, albeit only very temporarily, and would not call such PIS.