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Comic Vine Battle of the Week: Arkillo vs. Hulk

It's time for a fight between two powerhouses and YOU determine who wins!

It's tough to believe we're already on the third Comic Vine Battle of the Week. First, Daredevil knocked out Nightwing and then Deathstroke took down Ultimate Captain America, but now it's time to step up the power levels. Previously, we were dealing with characters who could demolish a street during their fight. Now, we're giving you a battle which could level an entire town as the two characters duke it out. In one corner, we have Marvel's Green Goliath... and in the other, we have the current leader of the Sinestro Corps.

Hulk's strength grows over time and there's no doubt he has the physicals to contend with a Lantern. When speculating over a match for him, Hal or Sinestro were brought up, but I believe any tactical Lantern should eventually take a victory over the brute. What's stopping them from victory through BFR (battlefield removal)? Answer: not much, really. So, I thought Arkillo would be the best opponent in this case. Yes, he does indeed use constructs, but they're often projectiles or melee weapons. He has a tendency to get down and dirty (as seen with Kilowog), and against someone like the Hulk, I have a feeling that could result in a hugely entertaining fight. Will Hulk remain the strongest there is... or will this cosmic threat keep Hulk down for the count?

Comic Vine Battle of the Week Rules

  • Combatants are in character.
  • This is a totally random encounter. This means neither character has knowledge on the other.
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated and at night. Assume they start roughly 50 feet apart.
  • Both characters have standard gear.

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Voting will remain open until this Friday morning (ET) and a new article will go on the homepage shortly after. It'll include one Viner's argument for the winning character (can't be a scan fest, people), the staff's thoughts and if we're extra lucky, thoughts from writers and artists! Viners, it's understandable that debates over "who would win?" can get heated, but please try to keep the conversations informative and not personal.

Feel free to make future match suggestions in the comments below or via Gregg's Twitter page.

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Posted by Deranged Midget

Aww dude, you should've totally used Kilowag in this battle! Now THAT would've been awesome! Wicked choices though and you definitely delivered on the increased power standing.

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Posted by Outside_85

Since Lanterns of just about any variety need to be able to think to use their rings, whats stopping Hulk from rupturing their ears with at thunderclap?

Posted by Ghidoran

@outside_85: Because there's absolutely no way the combined forces of the entire lantern corps haven't figured out a way to counter that.

Edited by Rich711

This is totally a mismatch. I don't even see Sinestro or Hal Jordon beating Hulk.

Posted by TeamUnitedNerds

@outside_85 said:

Since Lanterns of just about any variety need to be able to think to use their rings, whats stopping Hulk from rupturing their ears with at thunderclap?

I don't think Hulk would be smart enough to do that. Also, thinking and hearing are two different things

Posted by The Average Bear

@outside_85 said:

Since Lanterns of just about any variety need to be able to think to use their rings, whats stopping Hulk from rupturing their ears with at thunderclap?

I don't think Hulk would be smart enough to do that. Also, thinking and hearing are two different things

I'm sad that that even had to be said...

Posted by dondave

@rich711 said:

This is totally a mismatch. I don't even see Sinestro or Hal Jordon beating Hulk.

Then you should read up on what Green Lantern's are capable of

Posted by Outside_85

@ghidoran: Most of the various Lantern Corps tend to be crewed by cannon-footer that die whenever someone sneezes on them

@teamunitednerds: You were saying?

Edited by Yurtigo

Hulk always wins.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

This is a great battle but I'm not sure if I'm gonna vote, I'm not really up on my Yellow Lantern knowledge

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Posted by k4tzm4n

This is a great battle but I'm not sure if I'm gonna vote, I'm not really up on my Yellow Lantern knowledge

Well, you have five days to expand your knowledge!

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Posted by Teerack

Hulk. Like not even a contest Hulk :P

Not to mention...

Posted by RustyRoy

Atrocitus or Doomsday would've been a better choice IMO. But thumbs up for originality.

Edited by jaybefre

Total mismatch here. We all saw what happened when GL fought Superman in the New 52 JL. His brute strength overpowered GL's ring. Same here with the Hulk who some could argue is stronger than Superman. And you chose Arkillo? Who is not even the strongest Sinestro corps member?!? Hulk hands down wins this. No contest.

Posted by Doctor_Whovian

"...but I believe any tactical Lantern should eventually take a victory over the brute."

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read so far today.

Posted by SPM1M

If it was Sinestro or Hal then i would squeeze them a victory but i dont know much on arkillo other than wat i saw in the sinestro corp war in which case i dont think he has the power to contend with hulk, he gow trashed by kilowog dropping a carrier on him im sure something like that would not put down hulk just hurt him

Edited by k4tzm4n

"...but I believe any tactical Lantern should eventually take a victory over the brute."

That's the most ridiculous thing I've read so far today.

Thinking a powerful and tactical Lantern can win via BFR over current Hulk is the "most ridiculous" thing you've seen on the internet today? I must say, I'm quite jealous of your internet browsing experience, because thinking a skilled ring-wielder can BFR Hulk is certainly a rational thought to many.

But you disagree and you've clearly proven your point by calling it " most ridiculous." Thanks for your polite and elaborate post. You've truly changed my mind on the subject.

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Edited by TheAcidSkull

*cracks fingers*

alright, here i go.

I'm assuming this is the standard savage hulk, in which case i think he wins. for starters, Hulks base level strength is not what it use to be, and i don't mean that in a bad sense. not at all, in fact the base Line has become even higher, which can be clearly seen from current examples. Hulk, even when the conditions were stacked against him, was able to lift a 15 billion ton mountain which was dropped from the sky, and dwarfed Andes. This is the time when banner was actually in control of the hulk, and no, this isn't world war hulk, NOR prof hulk for that matter, it was banner in hulks body. this means that hulk was at his weakest, which is why his friends were taunting him, to make him angry, but thats hardly enough, because banner deep down is a rational man, and he can't just simply get savage hulk like the hulk can, meaning he could not expand his strength above a certain limit. this was proven by leader BTW.

This isn't the only example of hulks amazing strength, during his time on sakaar, he literarly held a planet from falling a part, and this planet mind you was larger than earth( In the Planet Hulk PB) The equatorial diameter of earth is 7,926 miles, while sakaar's is 12,150 miles.

People will agrue that this is the WORLD war Hulk so he is stronger than savage, but it's not true. Hulks amp, only came after the end of planet hulk, while during THIS specific time, he was actually weakened , so yeah, this means that he's awesome. and as i was saying, hulk has actually recently become much stronger than he use to be :

hulk Draws Blood from hyperion and fights him head on with no sing of stopping.

And Hyperion Has Held two planets apart from each other and has even survived the two planets exploding.

Now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that Hulks Punches= UNIVERSAL FORCE , but it does show how powerful the hulk really is if he was able to hurt someone with such durability. this leads me to believe that the constructs won't be much of a problem for hulk, he has the durability and power to break away from them, and he also has enough versatility. yes, you heard me right. While hulk may not shoot lasers, and i hope he never does actually, he can utilize his powerful quite well. As i know, these lanterns need concentration, which is not easy when hulk can basically break that with his thunderclaps, or at least distract him long enough to punch or hurt him.

Here he sends Blastaar and the armies of the Negative Zone flying.

Savage Hulk has wracked Hyperion with a single thunderclap -- that also reverberates for blocks and shatters Dr. Spectrum's prism

Not trying to underrate the guy but seriously, thunderclaps should not be taken lightly, neither should shock waves.

But lets assume that hulk can't get to the Arkillo, i'd say he'd still win. Why? Stamina And Durability. Hulk is very durable, seriously, especially to blunt force. Hulk has taken blasts from thor, galaxy master(an entity that roamed the cosmos and destroyed entire planets, assaults Savage Hulk who impossibly manages to fight through him in Incredible Hulk #112 and forces him to switch to chemical gas tactics, which don't work anymore), and he is basically VERY VERY hard to KO. Not to mention the fact that his durability, and power, increase with his anger. this has been stated twice by wolverine, saying that hulk was becoming hard to cut. But blunt objects are not the only thing that could be made right? there are also huge swords and spike that could be formed as well, but savage hulk can, and will take them. I've debate many times that hulks durability is not weak to sharp objects, but some hulks have specific kinds of durability , WWH was more weak to sharp objects than the other hulks, but still each time either the object was amped by magic or the old power. While savage hulk on the other hand...

Hulk Moves So fast That he is seen as a blur( did i meantion that hulk is faster now?)

Hulk resisted a quantum Molder which ultron used to soften and reshape adamantium. He healed pretty easily and the owned Mad tinker.

This shows that hulk can basically take anything thrown at him. Add the fact that he has an awesome healing factor too, which by the way becomes faster when angered. this has also been stated by wolverine, and has actually be proven. ( the HF of any hulk is the same, EXPECT the grey one)

this should prove that hulk can heal faster and greater when he is angry, Carmilla Black injects hulk with a poison and after hulk gets mad he gets back right up.

Wearing down Arkillo is also an open option though, hulk doesn't get tired, hell even the much reasonable prof hulk, who's powers don't grow with anger, damaged to fight for days straight, and he was still going.

fighting hel hordes for days without no help.

In conclusion, hulk can take him, he's got everything he needs. and even more.

Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale

I'm going to take the middle ground, how many feats does he have ? and I'm gonna doubt the strength of the constructs, but again it's a power ring here.

So I'll say off of things to work with Hulk slightly

Posted by k4tzm4n

@theacidskull: Yes, it's current Hulk. Thanks for constructing an argument!

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Posted by Crazy_Wilhelm

Arkillo would go down swinging for a loss in my book. Should've picked Atrocitus, guys. That would be a better fight.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@k4tzm4n said:

@theacidskull: Yes, it's current Hulk. Thanks for constructing an argument!

^__^ when it comes to the hulk, i'm the best there.....wait no, thats not right

anyways, thanks for a great battle, t'was fun.

Posted by Extremis

@deranged_midget: yeah agreed Kilowog Would have been awesome!

But no disrespect to the OP, still a gnarly choice.

Posted by k4tzm4n

@theacidskull: You're welcome. Hopefully someone supporting Arkillo can give you a good debate.

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Posted by TheAcidSkull

@k4tzm4n said:

@theacidskull: You're welcome. Hopefully someone supporting Arkillo can give you a good debate.

* sit's waiting*

O.O

Posted by TheAcidSkull

@k4tzm4n:

BTW who do you think will win?

Posted by Jackmaa

Well, a Yellow Lantern is for me unexpected, I would have seen a Red One, who draw his power from rage itself.

But still it's a valuable choice, maybe Hulk will take the first blood after a long rage missile-like got fired in his face.

And the Hulk is a powerfull beast who strikes fear of a certain death in the heart of his foe. So at that point Arkillo can even the odds for he grows more powerful. And I guess he can strike down the Hulk.

So to me it's Arkillo.

Edited by RocketOrange

Absolutely Arkillo on this one. Arkillo has the power of all the yellow lanterns. That extreme ability in and of itself is enough to send Hulk literally out of Earth's atmosphere.

Posted by evilvegeta74

There are very few Dc characters who should actually be pitted against the Hulk. Characters such as Superman , Majestic, Darkseid , etc....... anything other than match ups on those levels is a waste. The Hulk is the strongest one there is, and now he has his intelligence again. Arkillo is way out of his league. I think that if you are gonna pit the Hulk against someone, get straight to the nitty gritty, Bring on Helspont , Darkseid , Majestic, and Superman. The Hulk doesn't need a warm up match, he is the strongest one there is.

Posted by The Stegman

Not a mismatch at all, people who think so don't know what Lanterns are capable of. However, I will say the Hulk will edge out a win after a looooooooooooong fight.

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Edited by hart7668

Does Arkillo have anything going in his favor? I mean, maybe if he takes the fight into space and tries to fly Hulk into the sun, maybe, but I seriously doubt Arkillo has anything going for him.

Posted by SoA

hulk over all but after a tough fight, arkillo is super strong, durable and vicious. arkillo can also fire energy blast and have his constructs fight for him ., he also will not stop fighting until he is completely beat down . however he is not too intelligent so he wouldn't be able to really mess with hulk by showing him his innermost fears .

Posted by Deadpool_9

I say Hulk takes it.

Hulk gets stronger the more angry he gets, so as the battle rages he will get stronger.

Arkillo's ring is powered by fear. Although there will be plenty of fear in the hearts of surrounding civilians, Arkillo needs a power battery or manhunter to recharge. I don't think he will have time, in a battle with the Hulk, to recite the oath and recharge. Therefore, as the battle goes on Arkillo looses power.

I agree that a BFR tactic would give any lantern an edge. They could pull him up to space where a weightless Hulk would be powerless. Or they could launch him into the sun... good luck to Hulk getting back to Earth.
If the battle were Hulk vs another lantern (Sinestro, Hal, John, etc..) I think they might take it. But Arkillo has some personality flaws that hinder him, in my opinion. As mentioned, he does tend to fight hand to hand instead of relying heavily on the ring. Hulk wins in hand to hand. Also, I think Arkillo commonly goes into berserker mode and would not have the wits to BFR the Hulk. Other lanterns might have the focus to recognize that is the way to win the fight, but I say Arkillo berserks out and goes in close for hand to hand.

Posted by Royal_Rumble_Man

Hulk

If it is sinestro it will be different

Posted by kid Apollo

this ones the toughest one yet i think, sure Hulk could beat plain old Arkillo, but with a ring things get a little interesting. and theres versions of the Hulk thatre weaker than others but ive read quite a bit of Lantern based books and the Hulks always been a favorite so ive got say that HULKS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!

Posted by Deranged Midget

, Bring on Helspont , Darkseid , Majestic, and Superman. The Hulk doesn't need a warm up match, he is the strongest one there is.

Hulk would have one heck of a fight with someone of Superman's caliber. He would get decimated by someone on Majestic's, Darkseid's or Helspont's level. That's just not a fair comparison mate.

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Posted by evilvegeta74

@evilvegeta74 said:

, Bring on Helspont , Darkseid , Majestic, and Superman. The Hulk doesn't need a warm up match, he is the strongest one there is.

Hulk would have one heck of a fight with someone of Superman's caliber. He would get decimatedby someone on Majestic's, Darkseid's or Helspont's level. That's just not a fair comparison mate.

I'd say Marvel fans would beg to differ, I count myself as one. No one would decimate the one being with infinite strength, you know this. The only advantage the above Dc characters would have is breathing in space. Now with Banners intellect thrown in the mix, he'd figure out how to defeat them all.

Posted by Arkhamc1tizen

Hulk.

Posted by TheBlackHood

Totally should have gone Mongul with all those yellow rings. Now that would be a throwdown. Considering Mongul pretty much manhandled Arkillo without a ring, I would say that this is all Hulk all day.

Posted by k4tzm4n
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Posted by deadpoolrules

@teerack said:

Hulk. Like not even a contest Hulk :P

Not to mention...

This

Posted by Beserkerfury

Arkillo stomps,he can also summon Paralax for an extra boost to further drive hulk in the ground.

Posted by Doctor_Whovian

@k4tzm4n: My goal wasn't to change your mind on anything. Why do people always expect elaborate responses? I didn't take issue with everything you said. I had a problem with the way you said it, particularly your use of "any". Of course we're all entitled to an opinion, but it just seemed disrespectful somehow.

Now, I'm not the world's biggest Hulk fan, but he's certainly a staple in the comic medium. To say that he could be beaten by "any" tactical ring user, comes off as dismissive to the character, maybe even a little biased. If I'm wrong, then so be it. Based on your passive-aggressive sarcasm, what I said must have offended you. My apologies, as that wasn't my intention. I just think it's unnecessary to always explain everything in-depth, when a simple response gets the same point across, but using less characters to do so. Clearly, not everyone feels the same way, lol.

Edited by Deranged Midget

I'd say Marvel fans would beg to differ, I count myself as one. No one would decimate the one being with infinite strength, you know this. The only advantage the above Dc characters would have is breathing in space. Now with Banners intellect thrown in the mix, he'd figure out how to defeat them all.

Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, he has the potential for limitless strength. The DC characters listed have every single advantage over Hulk in enormous factors as well. Hulk wouldn't stand a chance in his best incarnation against either Helspont or Darkseid, both of which have recently stomped New 52 Superman without an ounce of effort.

Also, current Hulk doesn't possess Banner's brain either, not that it would make a difference as Majestic(prior to New 52 appearance), Helspont and Darkseid are just in completely different leagues than Hulk or Superman. I am a massive fan of Hulk myself but there's a line to be drawn where it reaches borderline insane to compare him to beings of that caliber.

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Edited by k4tzm4n

@doctor_whovian: So, telling someone something they said is "the most ridiculous thing they've read all day" isn't meant as an antagonistic, but potentially downplaying a fictional character is "disrespectful?" You have to understand why I find that humorous, right?

Anyway, moving on. The sentence you're questioning specifically names Hal and Sinestro, so I assumed it should have been obvious I was referring to the talented ring-slingers and not every single lantern who knows how to merely use the ring. Apologies if that wasn't clear enough.

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Posted by Saren
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Edited by Kneepawn

I would have loved to see Hulk pitted against Atrocitus here but.... hes not. So sadly, I'm gonna have to say Hulk takes this one.

Posted by Rich711

@dondave: Now you are just following all my posts to disagree with me?! What a creepy weirdo. Okay, fine Atrocitus can beat Hulk, THERE, I agree with you. Now please stop stalking me.

Edited by MuyJingo

This seems like a silly fight. Constructs put the advantage waaaaay in favour of the lantern. Enclose him and deprive him of oxygen, catapult into space, whatever. It could be an interesting fight with Hulk breaking out of some constructs.....but there is no question who would win.

I second that I would have liked to see Hulk vs Doomsday.

Posted by dondave

@rich711 said:

@dondave: Now you are just following all my posts to disagree with me?! What a creepy weirdo. Okay, fine Atrocitus can beat Hulk, THERE, I agree with you. Now please stop stalking me.

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